Hey Hap, election time must be close at hand

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:29 pm

A stressed out Packy in an airport in the yr 05, trying to convince total strangers to carry a package on the plane for him.

Freakin Priceless :)

:)

At least we can't complain about this crop of po$ers letting us down in the entertainment dept.

'Cept for maybe the 'feeling the pinch' Comedy Clubs :wink:

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:39 pm

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:02 pm

OMG...

Grewal scammed his way to citizenship.

Our Libby Immigration allows other people to become Canadians if they simple invest into the country, so Grewal together with another "other" who prolly also cheated his way into the country, set up a pretend investment scam concerning a B.C carpet company so Grewal would appear on paper to be eligible to apply for Canadian Citizenship.

With scam_ability like that, is it any wonder the Libby's were trying to get him to come on board. :wink:

On a more positive note:

TORONTO - More than 800 people die each year in both Toronto and Montreal from the acute effects of exposure to smog, a report released yesterday says.

The study found 822 smog-related deaths annually in Toronto, 818 in Montreal, 368 in Ottawa and 258 in Windsor.

A study attributes 1,082 deaths a year in Montreal to the effects of extreme heat, cold and air pollution.

We Will Overcome

fix · Post by **fix** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:59 am

Liberals lead Tories in latest poll

By ALEXANDER PANETTA

OTTAWA (CP) - The Liberals vaulted to a 14-point lead over the Conservatives in popular support, suggests a new poll released to The Canadian Press.

A Decima survey last week suggests support for the federal Tories crumbled, putting them in a virtual dead heat with the NDP.

The Liberals were at 37 per cent support, the Tories had 23 per cent and the NDP were trailing them closely at 21 per cent.

Most surprising were the numbers in the critical battleground of Ontario, where the Conservatives were running neck-neck with the Grits barely a month ago.

Decima said the Tories had fallen 26 points behind the Liberals and were in third place behind the NDP.

BWAHAHAHA!!!

The Liberals had 48 per cent in that province, the NDP was at 24 and the Conservatives held 22 per cent.

"The trend lines - especially in Ontario - are definitely better for the Liberal party than they were several weeks ago, no question about that," said Bruce Anderson, head of Decima Research Inc.

The New Democrats also held small leads over the Tories among women, single people and voters under age 34.

The poll of 1,000 respondents was conducted June 2-5. Decima said the results are accurate to within 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20, but the provincial and demographic breakdowns are less reliable because they have a smaller sample size.

Those kinds of poll numbers could have a significant impact on federal politics and the timing of an election.

A Tory party that just days ago had Parliament paralysed in its effort to topple the Liberal government now seems destined to sit patiently through an election-free spring.

The Liberals have steadily climbed back in a series of polls after being battered by a daily stream of revelations at the sponsorship inquiry.

However, the Conservatives had even less support than they did before tales of corruption in Liberal ranks surfaced in April, the poll suggests.

*Snicker*

But Liberals shouldn't feel too triumphant, Anderson warned.

The wild swings suggest a temperamental electorate, and these latest Decima numbers would still likely give the Liberals only a minority government.

"(These are) not unprecedented levels of support for the Liberal party," Anderson said.

"I would say it's more reasonable to assume that they're fragile, rather than sturdy levels of support because of the volatility we've seen."

Anderson blamed the Tories' poor showing on a strategy that has been "out of sync" with the desires of the electorate.

In their efforts to take down the government, the Tories found themselves running against public opinion among voters who didn't want an election and actually liked the NDP-inspired changes to the federal budget.

Parliament was shut down for a few days as the Tories and Bloc Quebecois boycotted to protest the Liberals clinging to power.

"During the same period, the NDP has been urging that the House (of Commons) keep working, that it expand its agenda beyond . . . corruption, and has been promoting social spending over corporate tax cuts," Anderson said.

The Tories appear unlikely to try forcing an election again this spring, as MPs suggest the party will spend the summer shaping policy and building popular support.

That would be in keeping with what voters want, the Decima poll suggests.

Only 12 per cent of respondents said the Tories should renew their takedown effort, compared to 76 per cent who said they should wait.

The Liberals responded gleefully to Decima's numbers.

"I've always been confident that the general public in Ontario saw the merits of a good government," said Immigration Minister Joe Volpe, the Liberals' political minister for the province.

"The programs that we began to outline and publicize through the budget were ones that galvanized public opinion and won public confidence."

The Tories said they'll keep working to win public support.

"These things wax and wane," said Tory finance critic Monte Solberg.

"I think we just keep pounding away, stay positive, and in the end people will come around to our point of view."

Um.. no they won't Monte..

:lol::lol:

3rd place...

What's that smell... the pleasant aroma of the signs for a Liberal majority in the next election.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:48 am

tough love wrote:A stressed out Packy in an airport i

It's 'Paki'.

Not 'Packy'

Carry on.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:58 am

Otis Wrote:
What's that smell... the pleasant aroma of the signs for a Liberal majority in the next election.

Perhaps Ontario's fruit trees have masked the stench of a corrupt poli-system in decay.

Another Grewal Funny:
A reporter; outside Grewal's B.C campaign headquaters, is asking one of Grewals paki campaign workers how the person feels about the reports that the Grewal tapes were altered.
The Grewal campaign worker replys with all certainty that it's just a liberal accusation to deflect blame from themselves, and that the tapes were never altered.
The reporter than informs the campaign worker that Grewal himself has now admitted that the tapes were altererd.
The guy pauses.......... then says, Mr. Grewal must be mistaken.

Quiz: Myopic Paki campaign worker relects the personality of 96% of where? :wink:

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:59 pm

Otis wrote:
What's that smell... the pleasant aroma of the signs for a Liberal majority in the next election.

You are smelling the smoke from the flames of the corpse that was Canada, should the gLiberals get a majority. Both the West (Alberta and B.C.) and Quebec will be gone faster that Martin will throw money at them to convince them to stay.

But please Otis, tell us how you feel about Bush and why he shouldn't be President. :roll:

fix · Post by **fix** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:30 am

Hapday wrote:
Otis wrote:
What's that smell... the pleasant aroma of the signs for a Liberal majority in the next election.
You are smelling the smoke from the flames of the corpse that was Canada, should the gLiberals get a majority. Both the West (Alberta and B.C.) and Quebec will be gone faster that Martin will throw money at them to convince them to stay.

But please Otis, tell us how you feel about Bush and why he shouldn't be President. :roll:

Oh is that the Conservitards new angle, threatening seperation if they're not elected?

Why do you hate Canada Hap?

:roll:

Psst... BC and Alberta aren't going anywhere. You can fantasize all you like about it but unlike some here who have absolutely no sense of patriotism, (s'up Hap?) westerners have an abundunce of patriotism and love for this country.
Quebec... they're the preverbial boy who cried wolf..
For the past 30 some odd years now..

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:38 pm

Sounds like the Supreme Court of Canada (filled with gLiberal-opointed judges) agrees with what the Conservatives have been saying for over 10 years now. Our health care system is broken and needs to be repaired. I guess this puts a cramp in the gLiberals fear-mongering campaign against the Conservtives, back to the drawing board for their spin doctors.

Shot in arm for 2 tiers

Supreme Court strikes down Quebec ban on private health insurance

By KATHLEEN HARRIS, Parliamentary Bureau

IN A LANDMARK ruling that swings open the door to two-tier health care, Canada's highest court has struck down a law that bans Quebecers from buying private medical insurance.

Yesterday's Supreme Court judgment says the government's "monopolistic" grip over the system, as patients suffer and die on long waiting lists, is unconstitutional.

"Prohibiting citizens from obtaining private health-care insurance may leave people no choice but to accept excessive delays in the public health system," wrote Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin.

"The physical and psychological suffering and risk of death that may result outweigh whatever benefit there may be to the system as a whole."

The ruling applies only to Quebec, but paves the way for challenges from other provinces and could propel a national push for more privatization. While a majority of Supreme Court justices agreed the private insurance ban breaches Quebec's Charter, they were split on whether it violated Canada's Charter.

Health professionals across the country worry the judgment will shake medicare to its core, while pro-privatization advocates see a golden path to a more effective "hybrid" system. Saskatchewan, New Brunswick and Newfoundland already allow private medical insurance plans.

Dr. Albert Schumacher, president of the Canadian Medical Association, said the decision sounds the alarm for political leaders across the country to strengthen the public system by developing plans for timely access to services.

The court "decision represents a stinging indictment of the failure of governments to respond to the mountains of studies and years of research that shows us we need real action for our health-care system," he said.

YEAR ON WAITING LIST

The ruling stemmed from Quebec physician Jacques Chaoulli and his patient, George Zeliotis, who argued the province's ban on private insurance breached the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Quebec Charter.

Zeliotis launched the challenge after he was forced to spend a year on a waiting list for a hip replacement in 1997 because he was prevented from paying to get quicker service.

The Canadian Nurses Association warned that privately operated health services will deplete staff from the public health sector.

Former Ontario premier Mike Harris, who penned a report with Preston Manning calling for the private sector to have a greater role in health care, praised the decision.

"The best way to improve the delivery of health care is to give Canadians the opportunity to choose the kind of care they want," he said.

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:49 pm

No surprise here, after all don't criminals look after their own?

Give Karla a break: Grit senatorBy CP

MONTREAL -- A Quebec senator says the restrictions facing Ontario schoolgirl killer Karla Homolka are unfair and he wants to help her.

Liberal Sen. Michel Biron, 71, told CTV News last night that the conditions limiting Homolka's freedom when she finishes her 12-year sentence for manslaughter are "unjustified."

Among the conditions imposed by a judge last week are monthly check-ins with police and no consorting with criminals.

Homolka will be released between June 30 and July 4 after she completes her sentence for her role in the sordid sex killings of teens Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French.

Biron, who was appointed to the Senate in 2001 by then-PM Jean Chretien, attended the hearing in Joliette, Que., last week that resulted in the conditions on Homolka's release. He said he wanted to show his support for her and that his presence was "strictly personal."

"I have to give her a chance," he said last night. "I don't consider her dangerous."

Biron's colleagues on Parliament Hill expressed shock when informed of his trip to Joliette.

"I don't think most people would normally do that but I have no idea why he did it and I would certainly want to find out from him," said Sen. Art Eggleton.

Tory Deputy Leader Peter MacKay said: "To be attending these hearings, and to be, apparently by his presence, lending moral support to Karla Homolka -- I think that's repugnant and I'm shocked."

Biron, a member of the Order of Canada, says he has never met Homolka or communicated with her.

Tim Danson, lawyer for the families of Homolka's victims, was surprised by Biron's support.

"To put that kind of prestige and honour behind Karla Homolka is seriously misplaced and he's obviously seriously ill-informed of the facts."

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:38 pm

Liberal Sen. Michel Biron should be shot.

This Supreme court heathcare thingy just cements my contempt for all poli_scum sucking pigs.

What else could the courts say about a system that has been neglected and deliberately rendered unhealthy by these freakin po$er_libwads for the past 12 yrs or so.

Over the past 8 yrs (give or take a few) many healthcare professionals have been predicted this day would come if the Libtards continued to negate their health care responcibilities.

Billion$ have been wasted on needless useless showy crap, while they let the healthcare system they made sick go untreated, and now we get shinny fuc_martin standing without blame in the land of the blind because the supreme court appears to be the one who opened the door to our health system going the way of greedy_poli_america.

NOT FUNNY AT ALL

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:29 pm

TL:

Smarten up. You know damn well that the gLiberal Party of Canada are the champions of health care in this country. :roll: :roll:

HIDDEN AGENDA!!!!! HIDDEN AGENDA!!!!!!

:roll: :roll:

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:03 am

Hapday wrote:
Otis wrote:
What's that smell... the pleasant aroma of the signs for a Liberal majority in the next election.
You are smelling the smoke from the flames of the corpse that was Canada, should the gLiberals get a majority. Both the West (Alberta and B.C.) and Quebec will be gone faster that Martin will throw money at them to convince them to stay.

I posed that question at a couple of other boards that have a large number of posters from Alberta and B.C. on them..

We'll see what they have to say.

fix · Post by **fix** » Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:24 am

Hapday wrote:No surprise here, after all don't criminals look after their own?

Give Karla a break: Grit senatorBy CP

MONTREAL -- A Quebec senator says the restrictions facing Ontario schoolgirl killer Karla Homolka are unfair and he wants to help her.

Liberal Sen. Michel Biron, 71, told CTV News last night that the conditions limiting Homolka's freedom when she finishes her 12-year sentence for manslaughter are "unjustified."

Among the conditions imposed by a judge last week are monthly check-ins with police and no consorting with criminals.

Homolka will be released between June 30 and July 4 after she completes her sentence for her role in the sordid sex killings of teens Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French.

Biron, who was appointed to the Senate in 2001 by then-PM Jean Chretien, attended the hearing in Joliette, Que., last week that resulted in the conditions on Homolka's release. He said he wanted to show his support for her and that his presence was "strictly personal."

"I have to give her a chance," he said last night. "I don't consider her dangerous."

Biron's colleagues on Parliament Hill expressed shock when informed of his trip to Joliette.

"I don't think most people would normally do that but I have no idea why he did it and I would certainly want to find out from him," said Sen. Art Eggleton.

Tory Deputy Leader Peter MacKay said: "To be attending these hearings, and to be, apparently by his presence, lending moral support to Karla Homolka -- I think that's repugnant and I'm shocked."

Biron, a member of the Order of Canada, says he has never met Homolka or communicated with her.

Tim Danson, lawyer for the families of Homolka's victims, was surprised by Biron's support.

"To put that kind of prestige and honour behind Karla Homolka is seriously misplaced and he's obviously seriously ill-informed of the facts."

Broad brush much? :roll:

Biron's comments provoked outrage from St. Catharines MP Walt Lastewka (Liberal), who fired off an angry letter demanding his resignation.

"If your concern for Ms. Homolka's post-release re-integration is that great, I believe that you should do that as a private citizen, " Lastewka wrote in a letter he forwarded to Prime Minister Paul Martin, all senators and MPs.

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:34 pm

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:35 pm

Western Seperation:

Otis Wrote:
I posed that question at a couple of other boards that have a large number of posters from Alberta and B.C. on them..

We'll see what they have to say. Cool

And???

Excellent poli_fix suggestion, short of major poli_ reformation -> The Bloc_Western Party.

Huge Belated RACKS to the Social Credit Party of Canada.

fix · Post by **fix** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:21 am

tough love wrote:Western Seperation:

Otis Wrote:
I posed that question at a couple of other boards that have a large number of posters from Alberta and B.C. on them..

We'll see what they have to say. Cool
And???

Excellent poli_fix suggestion, short of major poli_ reformation -> The Bloc_Western Party.

Huge Belated RACKS to the Social Credit Party of Canada.

And the results were:

Would Albertans and British Columbians choose seperation
Would seperate from Canada
33%
We're Canadians first, foremost and forever. Seperation isn't even an option.
66%

Would Albertans and British Columbians choose seperation
Would seperate from Canada
23%
We're Canadians first, foremost and forever. Seperation isn't even an option
76%

Speaking of RACKS

Confidential

To: Conservative Party of Canada Caucus Members
Re: Leaders Schedule.

Please be advised that Stephen Harper will not be available for regularly scheduled beratings this coming Friday . Leaders schedule has been changed to devote time to the spontaneous charm offensive.

Caucus members are encouraged to memorize leaders schedule, attend events and cheer the leader on in an appropriate manner.

Friday June 24

5:00 pm Leader to spontaneously bump into Rona Ambrose and conservative youth caucus by centennial flame.

5:05 pm Leader will refer to Rona and youth caucus as the “hottie and her peeps”.

Assembled caucus and observers are encouraged to raise right hand, form a fist, make a circular motion and chant “Stephen! Stephen! Stephen!”

CTV countdown with Mike Duffy crew to be in attendance.

5:10 pm Leader and youth caucus to travel on foot to ByWard market where leader will spontaneously announce he is getting nipple pierced.

Canada press photographer to attend.
Photo of leader’s nipple being iced to be released immediately.

5:30 Leader to sit on deck at Milestones restaurant located near the Chateau Laurier. Leader will order and enjoy a domestic beer. Members of caucus are invited to stop by and “Have a cold one with Stephen”

While seated leader will roll up shirt sleeves and expose yellow lance Armstrong cancer bracelet. Jane Taber to be informed that “Stephen relaxed and ordered a domestic beer just like a regular guy, he talked about hockey and declared ‘anyone who drinks imported is a pansy”

(note to caucus: many of you have voiced your concerns over our last memo encouraging you to wear the yellow cancer bracelet. We have looked into your concerns and have determined that the yellow cancer bracelet does not cause cancer but is part of a campaign to beat cancer)

6:45pm Secret Hacky Sac lessons.

closed to Media

Ric Mercer's deserving of them...

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:37 pm

Like Mercer; our poli_system has also become a publicly paid for unfunny joke...All Party's Inclusive.

Unfortunately; the clear thinking people of Canada have no where to run.

As with the good people of America; all we can now do is play with our empty material things, and gasp from the sidelines sadden as things get worse.

Woe Is We

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:45 pm

Da DaDa Dumb

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... nal/Canada

OTTAWA -- Peter MacKay sensed something was fishy when he pulled into the drop-off area of the Ottawa International Airport Thursday night and noticed there were none of the usual black limousines depositing cabinet ministers for their regular Toronto-bound flight.

The 10 p.m. Ottawa-to-Toronto hop is usually crammed with MPs trying to get home for the weekend. But on this night, the deputy leader of the Conservative Party saw none.

He figured something might be up and had an aide phone the office of party Whip Rob Nicholson. "They've cooked a deal," the voice on the other end of the line said. "You have to come back."

Mr. MacKay made it to the Commons in time to cast his ballot, but to no avail. With the help of the Bloc Québécois and the NDP, the Liberals had engineered a sneak attack that forced a snap vote on the federal budget.

Stephen Harper; outmanoeuvred again.
Conservatives; crying foul.
Liberals; will do anything to stay in office.

"They sprung it on us," Mr. MacKay 'Dohed.
---------------------------------------------------------

It's appears that they too (see yanks) have placed 'We' at war with ourselves.

Go Self-Serving Poli_Scum. :x

fix · Post by **fix** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:00 pm

tough love wrote:Stephen Harper; outmanoeuvred again.

:cool:

Once again Harper and his band of fools come off looking like complete idiots.
How in the hell anyone could in their right mind want to vote for someone who is so completely ignorant of parliamentary procedure is beyond me.
Harper is Martin's bitch.

Bottom line in all of this though is that the budget which an overwhelming majority of Canadians wanted to see passed, is now passed. The only party that was holding it up were the Conservatives with their filibustering.
Which was doing absolutely nothing positive for this country.
Now we can move on to taking care of other business while the Tories lick their wounds like the sorry ass bitches that they are.

fix · Post by **fix** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:52 am

Mercer's done it again...

Classic Harper..

:lol::lol:

Harper's educational study list..Top to bottom...

Civil Society
BBQ: Summer Fun for Everyone
Parliment for Dummies
Human Rights Primer
Rights & Freedoms
Straight Eye for the Straight Guy
Hoodwinked
Up Your Image
Sound Editing for Beginners
Canadian Law 101

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:50 pm

If anyones is interested:
Alexanders Panettas' PIECE sadly shows the Harper Marionettes to be even dumber than first thought.
This is not me siding with the ontario corruption party, but me saying that even a block_head like Hap couldn't possible want to see this paticular batch of clueout misfits run any country, or a shit-tank collection service for that matter.

Sorry Canada, but what you need is a viable alternative to these cursed Libs, not a flock of clued_out over-inflated with self losers trying to play politics while riding the short bus.

pssst. wanna make Harper squeal like a pig.

OTTAWA (CP) - It all started with a whisper in Paul Martin's ear.

The prime minister leaned back in his Commons chair to hear the question, and replied by giving Tony Valeri the go-ahead.

Martin's house leader had hatched a plan for a midnight budget vote with do-or-die implications for the Liberal government.

By 8:30 p.m. the Liberals were hiding out in the Commons government lobby, a long chamber lined with sofas, televisions, tables and desks.

"We are going to bushwhack the Conservatives," one Liberal MP boldly predicted.

On the other side of the Commons, a beer-filled tub was being wheeled into the opposition lobby for the few Tories preparing to sit in for debate on a $4.6-billion budget bill.

The rest of their colleagues filed out of Parliament's Centre Block and headed off to restaurants, bars, their homes or the airport for weekend trips to their ridings.

A few noticed something wrong when the shuttle buses on Parliament Hill were as bereft of Liberal MPs as the Grit-free city of Calgary.

Even the NDP and Bloc Quebecois were in on the scheme. They hung around the Commons after discussions between Valeri and the other house leaders earlier in the day.

Bloc MPs were in a particularly foul mood with their erstwhile Conservative allies.

The sovereigntist MPs were desperate to get home to Quebec for a festive weekend of Fete nationale celebrations, but the Tories refused a motion to change an 8 p.m. vote to an earlier time.

"(The Tories) were caught flat-footed because they didn't pay attention to details," said one NDP member.

"If they had simply agreed to move the votes to 6 p.m. they wouldn't have had a problem.

"Anger, I suppose is a natural reaction when you've lost - when you've been snookered."

Before anger there was bewilderment.

The Conservatives had been insisting publicly all day they were prepared to trigger an election next week by defeating the Liberal budget.

This despite polls showing them far behind the Liberals and private suggestions they didn't really want to see a writ drop.

They learned of the ruse when Valeri rose to speak in the House, and a handful of Bloc MPs rushed out of the opposition lobby to hear him.

"Their heads snapped," one insider said of the Tories.

"And then the Blackberries started. . . . There was definitely a sense of shock and confusion."

MPs received frantic phone calls and e-mails telling them to get back to the Hill.

The Liberals, NDP and Bloc had seized on a procedural tactic used only a handful of times in Canadian history - an obscure rule that allows parties to cut off debate when they feel one party is obstructing the business of Parliament.

Senior Conservative staff rushed into the Commons area to find out what was going on. MPs were walking briskly back up the long pathway that leads to the epicentre of the drama - Parliament's Centre Block.

"We just found out 20 minutes ago," said B.C. Tory James Moore. "Sneaky, sneaky."

At that point befuddlement turned into rage.

Deputy Tory leader Peter MacKay bemoaned a "menage a trois" among separatists, socialists and power-hungry Liberals.

He called his opponents' talk of making minority Parliament work "all just one big, fat stinking lie."

He compared the Liberals to a homicidal Hollywood psychopath - the liver-eating cannibal Hannibal Lecter.

B.C. Tory John Reynolds seemed to blame the media.

As MPs took their seats for the midnight vote he hollered up at the press gallery when he noticed a reporter-turned-government staffer milling about.

"Get those Liberals out of there! What are Liberals doing in the press gallery?" he shouted several times. He later told a news scrum that the scene represented "what's wrong with this country."

There had been a few nervous Nellies in the Liberal ranks.

A group of staffers pored over the numbers and questioned whether some absent Tory MPs could make it back in time for the vote. But Valeri marched into the lobby and said there was no turning back.

The implications were huge for the Liberals.

Victory would mean the minority government's survival through its first calendar year - a feat not seen in Canadian politics since the early 1970s.

It would also mean the success of a budget deal struck with the NDP out of political necessity: $4.6 billion for housing, the environment, education and foreign aid.

A loss would mean an election campaign starting Friday with the country likely going to the polls on Aug. 8.

The prospect might petrify a prime minister who's pushing 67 and could see his own career end if he fails to deliver a majority government in the next election.

Instead, the night ended with Paul Martin jumping on a desk in the Commons lobby and leading a Liberal hurrah for Valeri and his staff.

He had captured a 152-147 vote, a $4.6-billion budget amendment and a relatively calm summer after gambling his political life.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2005 ... 13-cp.html

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:05 pm

The Conservatives can't stoop to sleaze of the gLiberals. Everyone knows that.

It's nice that the gLiberal's paid ofr taking head (Mercer) is still supporting them. I am shocked. :roll: :roll:

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:24 pm

Sorry to say this Hap, but this flock of Tory's are simply too poli_dumb to ever get elected to power.
Given how they poli_managed to turned themselves from contenders into just another fringe party in record time, leads many to wonder if they are secretly working for the Libby's.

Here we go again, Harper isolates his party even further.

Harper Attacks Bloc over Same-Sex Marriage
Josh Pringle:

Stephen Harper is under fire for comments made about same-sex marriage.

The Conservative leader says most Canadians won't think same-sex marriage is legitimate because it will only pass with the support of the Bloc Quebecois.

The comments come as MP's prepare to debate and vote on the Liberal legislation to legalize gay and lesbian marriages.

Bloc leader Gilles Duceppe says his party has as much legitimacy as the Tories in Parliament, and that it's called democracy.

Justice Minister Irwin Cotler says the Bloc is a legitimate party in Parliament.

The House of Commons could vote on the bill as early as Tuesday.

fix · Post by **fix** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:28 pm

tough love wrote:Sorry to say this Hap, but this flock of Tory's are simply too poli_dumb to ever get elected to power.
Given how they poli_managed to turned themselves from contenders into just another fringe party in record time, leads many to wonder if they are secretly working for the Libby's.

Quit resorting to logic when arguing with Hap, tl, you know that's not exactly his strong point.

If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times... Harper will never lead this country.
Because the majority of Canadians know that he's simply not good enough to do so.

Here we go again, Harper isolates his party even further.

Harper Attacks Bloc over Same-Sex Marriage
Josh Pringle:

Stephen Harper is under fire for comments made about same-sex marriage.

The Conservative leader says most Canadians won't think same-sex marriage is legitimate because it will only pass with the support of the Bloc Quebecois.

The comments come as MP's prepare to debate and vote on the Liberal legislation to legalize gay and lesbian marriages.

Bloc leader Gilles Duceppe says his party has as much legitimacy as the Tories in Parliament, and that it's called democracy.

Justice Minister Irwin Cotler says the Bloc is a legitimate party in Parliament.

The House of Commons could vote on the bill as early as Tuesday.

And once again Harper is grasping at straws like a drowning man and becoming a little less palatable to Canadians every time he opens his mouth.

Shit, the Liberals should call an election and not campaign.. just letting Harper continue to kick his own ass would be enough to guarrantee a Liberal majority.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:56 pm

Otis Wrote:
Shit, the Liberals should call an election and not campaign.. just letting Harper continue to kick his own ass would be enough to guarrantee a Liberal majority.

It pains me to say this, but as it now stands, a libby majority is an absolute forsure.

It would prolly take nothing short of a video of Martin and Duceppe practicing gay marriage together to change that, than again, even those two low lifes butt f_n each other on national television wouldn't matter enough for Ontario to not vote liberal...zing.

Sorry Hap, but for your own peace of mind, you best just forget about politics for a spell.

fix · Post by **fix** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:06 pm

tough love wrote:
Otis Wrote:
Shit, the Liberals should call an election and not campaign.. just letting Harper continue to kick his own ass would be enough to guarrantee a Liberal majority.
It pains me to say this, but as it now stands, a libby majority is an absolute forsure.

It would prolly take nothing short of a video of Martin and Duceppe practicing gay marriage together to change that, than again, even those two low lifes butt f_n each other on national television wouldn't matter enough for Ontario to not vote liberal...zing.

Sorry Hap, but for your own peace of mind, you best just forget about politics for a spell.

T- 8 hours and counting until the Conservatives lose yet another vote...

tick... tock...

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:18 pm

^
T- 8 hrs and counting until the Liberals turn Canada into another Sodom.

Gomorrah Much???

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:39 pm

^^^^Gets it.

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:23 pm

Rack Joe Comuzzi!!

Junior minister resigns over gay marriage vote
CTV.ca News Staff

A junior cabinet minister has resigned rather than vote in favour of same sex marriage. Joe Comuzzi, the minister of state for economic development in northern Ontario, informed the prime minister of his decision Tuesday morning.

The resignation will return Comuzzi to the backbenches and allow him to vote tonight against the bill that would redefine marriage.

"I promised faithfully to the people of Thunder Bay-Superior North that I would defend the traditional definition of marriage," explained to reporters on Parliament Hill.

"Tonight, on the final vote of third reading, I intend to fulfill that obligation to the people that elected me."

CTV Ottawa bureau chief Robert Fife says Comuzzi is not leaving the Liberal caucus, nor is he planning to retire.

"He said he simply could not support the same-sex legislation, morally and ethically," Fife says.

"The Prime Minister's Office said there was no bitterness involved in this. The prime minister understood the situation that Mr. Comuzzi was in. It was a moral decision for him, one that was very personal to him. So he's accepted his resignation."

Fife says there are no plans for a mini cabinet shuffle and that Agriculture Minister Andy Mitchell will fill Comuzzi's spot for the time being.

Members of Parliament will vote on the third and final reading of the controversial bill this evening, sometime after 8 p.m. ET.

Prime Minister Paul Martin has said it will be a free vote among backbench MPs, but cabinet ministers must vote in favour.

The bill is expected to easily pass with the support of the Bloc Quebecois and the NDP, even though about 30 Liberal MPs will probably vote against it.

MPs will then vote on a motion to adjourn the Commons for the summer.

Comuzzi, 72, has not been silent about his opposition to Bill C-38. He broke ranks with the government Monday night to abstain from a vote to limit further debate on the proposed legislation to eight hours.

Twenty-three other Liberals opposed the motion to limit debate. Natural Resources Minister John Efford, who has said he is against the bill, was absent.

Five Bloc MPs and one New Democrat, Bev Desjarlais, voted against the motion as well.

That took some serious balls. The bill is going to pass anyway, and he could have been a typical gLiberal and just shrugged his shoulders and still collected his paycheque while breaking his promises to his constituants. Instead he stands by his convictions. Canada needs more politicans like Comuzzi and Pat O'Brien.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:05 pm

Props to the rare non_poser.

Sure say's a lot about the pathetic state of our democratic system when a poli_tard has to pack in his cab_post and become a back bencher cuz he chooses to keep a promise which got him elected to represent his constituents in a government which claims to be a democracy.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:57 pm

tough love wrote:^
T- 8 hrs and counting until the Liberals turn Canada into another Sodom.

Gomorrah Much???

You could always move to the States, Tina.

Unfortunately, I hear they also have blacks, fags and "dotties"...

...you racist shit-packet.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:41 am

Fuc you Marty;
I am not a Racist, but I understand how a ultra morally blinded libby would reason that of one who speaks out against degeneracy.
Give your humanist party another 5 yrs, and you'll be saying the same shit about those who speak out against pedophillia.

mv wrote:
We have a couple Russians too, but there aren't enough of them here yet to get their own ethnic slur.

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:51 pm

tough love wrote: Give your humanist party another 5 yrs, and you'll be saying the same shit about those who speak out against pedophillia.

You may be off by a couple of years, but the scary part and sad part is that is statement is 100% correct.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:52 pm

^
Hey Hap, we shouldn't be selling these lib_heathen's short.
They prolly got perversions to legislate that we haven't even thunk of, cooking on their back burners.

Anywho; I see The Martin's are still on track.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/LondonFre ... 2-sun.html

Contract watchdog flouted rules

OTTAWA -- A federal watchdog supposed to ensure the government follows the rules when it signs contracts has been breaking those rules itself.

The findings of a review suggest Public Works has some cleaning up to do after the sponsorship scandal exposed a series of manipulated contracts that benefited Liberal-favoured firms.

The latest improprieties are outlined in a report into how Consulting and Audit Canada -- the auditing service run by Public Works -- tendered its own contracts.

The May 2005 review, obtained under the Access to Information Act, was carried out in part by a private consulting firm, Public Sector Co. Ltd., to ensure an independent assessment.

The report examined 112 cases in which officials suspected Consulting and Audit Canada of splitting a large contract into smaller pieces to avoid rules that require competitive bidding when the value is above a threshold, normally $25,000.

The practice, known as contract-splitting, is forbidden because it's often used to favour particular firms. Splitting can also be expensive because contract costs can soar.

The review found evidence of contract-splitting in half the files studied.

"In five different cases involving some 15 contracts, the appearance of contract-splitting is strong," says the report, citing examples.

"All five cases involve a sequence of contracts for a value of just under $25,000 for similar services, awarded on a non-competitive basis."

The review stopped short of accusing officials of deliberate manipulation.

"A definitive finding of contract-splitting would be unusual since it would require an understanding of the motives of the contracting officials involved, and officials are unlikely to record on the file that a threshold was being avoided," the document says.

Still, the report is embarrassing for an agency whose objective is to "ensure sound procurement processes" in the government, according to a Public Works report to Parliament.

Consulting and Audit Canada conducts about $122 million of auditing and other services each year for federal departments and agencies.

The organization also signs about 1,400 contracts for services a year, about 60 per cent of them worth less than $25,000.

The review found numerous other problems, including date inconsistencies, inadequate bid evaluation reports, lack of security-clearance paperwork and biased tendering.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:20 pm

tough love wrote:Fuc you Marty;
I am not a Racist, but I understand how a ultra morally blinded libby would reason that of one who speaks out against degeneracy.
Give your humanist party another 5 yrs, and you'll be saying the same shit about those who speak out against pedophillia.

mv wrote:
We have a couple Russians too, but there aren't enough of them here yet to get their own ethnic slur.

You're the fucking idiot who thinks the "Bush Vision" and the "Harper Vision" are on opposite sides of the spectrum, Tina.

...and save that "libby" bullshit for your moronic rants with Hap. I'm not Bushice.
Straight up revolution, you retarded testicle mallet.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:26 am

YAAAWN

I'm sorry, did you post something, Marty?

Hapday · Post by **Hapday** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:11 pm

Martyred wrote:
I'm not Bushice.

We could spot you 10 additional IQ points so you could be. That would bring your total to 64 and make you smart enough so you wouldn't have to remind yourself to breathe.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:22 pm

tough love wrote:YAAAWN

I'm sorry, did you post something, Marty?

Yes, I said:
"You're the fucking idiot who thinks the "Bush Vision" and the "Harper Vision" are on opposite sides of the spectrum, Tina."

Please, continue with your understanding of....well....nothing.

tough love · Post by **tough love** » Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:31 am

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