Do you feel better about your tax cuts now?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:57 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:These vets live in a nursing home near Walter Reed. The feds plan on closing Walter Reed.
They also plan on expanding Bethesda and DeWitt at Ft. Belvoir.

I guess that must have just slipped your mind, right?

Fucking scumbag.

I'm sure that will be of great comfort to a stroke victim.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:00 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote:
mvscal wrote: They also plan on expanding Bethesda and DeWitt at Ft. Belvoir.

I guess that must have just slipped your mind, right?

Fucking scumbag.
I'm sure that will be of great comfort to a stroke victim.
Emergency patients go to the nearest hospital, shitstain.

Which used to be Walter Reed.

You haven't driven round the Beltway much eh?

Variable · Post by **Variable** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:07 pm

...including hundreds who had served in Iraq, had waited weeks or months in "medical hold" to be seen by doctors.

"We were made to feel like we had failed the Army."

That totally blows, and it's not fair, but to keep things in perspective, the military (regardless of branch) has always treated people on medical hold like shit. Until you are able to perform a job, you are absolutely useless to the military.

No excuse for the no A/C in Georgia, though. But there are ways to take care of this stuff. You take it up your chain of command or call your congressman. There's nothing more a congressman hates than hearing about someone from his district not getting taken care of. Things like that have a funny way of ending up in the newspaper.

You have to wait weeks and months to see a specialist, because there just aren't that many of them. The military pays pretty well for people just getting out of medical school and the OJT is second to none in wartime, but if you're a talented cardiologist, the US military is the LAST place you should be. You'd be cutting yourself short in salary by six figures.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:01 pm

"Sorry, but vets are generally very well taken care of in the USA."

...then...

"the military (regardless of branch) has always treated people on medical hold like shit."

Make up your mind.

Variable · Post by **Variable** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:35 am

"Sorry, but vets are generally very well taken care of in the USA."

...then...

"the military (regardless of branch) has always treated people on medical hold like shit."

No contradiction at all. Those on medical hold are active duty, while with "vets" are those who have been discharged and are veterans of one war or another and use the VA hospitals for treatment of service-connected injuries.

BTW, until you serve in the military, feel free to shut the fuck up. Nothing like having someone with zero clue what they're talking about try to correct you on personal experience.

Mister Bushice · Post by **Mister Bushice** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:51 am

Variable wrote:
BTW, until you serve in the military, feel free to shut the fuck up. Nothing like having someone with zero clue what they're talking about try to correct you on personal experience.

If we did that, then we'd be relying on the military to tell us what's really going on.

Something about that just seems so very wrong.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:40 pm

gee, I don't know...read the top of the picture you posted, cuntface.

here, i'll restate it : "tax cuts for the rich ...VA cuts for the vets"

or does that not count because you didn't actually say it. :roll:

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:55 pm

Variable wrote: You have to wait weeks and months to see a specialist, because there just aren't that many of them. The military pays pretty well for people just getting out of medical school and the OJT is second to none in wartime, but if you're a talented cardiologist, the US military is the LAST place you should be. You'd be cutting yourself short in salary by six figures.

watch yourself, dude. you're in dangerous territory of explaining why socialized healthcare is shit.

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:19 pm

I'm curious why Bushice did not post the link for that story. I don't attack the messenger typically, however, it'd be nice to be able assess the credibility of this source and see if there is an being grinded here...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:47 pm

titlover wrote:
Variable wrote: You have to wait weeks and months to see a specialist, because there just aren't that many of them. The military pays pretty well for people just getting out of medical school and the OJT is second to none in wartime, but if you're a talented cardiologist, the US military is the LAST place you should be. You'd be cutting yourself short in salary by six figures.
watch yourself, dude. you're in dangerous territory of explaining why socialized healthcare is shit.

2nd law of thermodynamics dude. Only in a closed system must the entropy count rise. Conversely, if there were no competing hospitals to lure specialists away from a socialized plan, there would not be the shortage of specialists Mike speaks of.

But hey, let's treat public health as a profit center. That's a great idea. :roll:

Variable · Post by **Variable** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:58 pm

there would not be the shortage of specialists Mike speaks of.

Wrong. You take profit out of the equation and you take out a significant motivator to become a doctor. They work long hours, are on call 24/7 and deal with the public(clearly the worst part of the job :wink:) on a daily basis. You turn that into a union job (like we don't see that coming) and you lose half of your great minds, easily. Why live through a difficult professional life if you take away the reward? They'll just go do something else for a living and we'd end up with fewer specialists and lots more knuckleheads who don't know what the hell they're doing.

But hey, let's treat public health as a profit center. That's a great idea.

Yeah, dumb idea. We're the world leader in developing new surgical techniques, new medications and new treatments. I'm sure the $$ being dumped into R&D to increase profits has nothing to do with that.<----Insert big fucking rolleyes.

You take away profit and you take away motivation and innovation. Good luck with that, BMarx.

DrDetroit · Post by **DrDetroit** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:10 pm

But hey, let's treat public health as a profit center. That's a great idea.

Can you be any more dishonest???

It's hilarious that you people treat profit as some kind of evil, yet you completely ignore the fact that you wouldn't even have the job you have or the internet you are posting this tripe on if it wasn't for "profits."

Idiots.

titlover · Post by **titlover** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:37 pm

Variable wrote:
there would not be the shortage of specialists Mike speaks of.
Wrong. You take profit out of the equation and you take out a significant motivator to become a doctor. They work long hours, are on call 24/7 and deal with the public(clearly the worst part of the job :wink:) on a daily basis. You turn that into a union job (like we don't see that coming) and you lose half of your great minds, easily. Why live through a difficult professional life if you take away the reward? They'll just go do something else for a living and we'd end up with fewer specialists and lots more knuckleheads who don't know what the hell they're doing.

But hey, let's treat public health as a profit center. That's a great idea.
Yeah, dumb idea. We're the world leader in developing new surgical techniques, new medications and new treatments. I'm sure the $$ being dumped into R&D to increase profits has nothing to do with that.<----Insert big fucking rolleyes.

You take away profit and you take away motivation and innovation. Good luck with that, BMarx.

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but Marxism works in theory!!!!!!

Sin,
a long list of idiots I've heard say that.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:44 pm

BSmack wrote:And yes, the tax cuts have come at the expense of, among others, the vets who have depended on VA medical services.

My rheumatologist, pulmonary specialist and GP all say you're an idiot.

That week I spent waiting for a CTscan felt like an eternity.

Since you're too much of a pussy to ever have served, nobody who has gives a fuck what you think about veteran's issues anyway.

And exactly how much revenue have we "lost" due to the lower marginal rates anyhow?

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 3:00 pm

Then again, they DO make me pay for my own perscriptions (because I made too much money last year).

That's $7 a month per script I could be spending on other shit.

Heartless neocon bastards. :cry:

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:03 pm

You're re-inventing yourself as a vet now?

:roll:

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:33 pm

Martyred wrote:You're re-inventing yourself as a vet now?

No reinvention nessecary, bitch.

And the only thing that any of us who have actually served could care about less than than a non-vet's opinion on the subject would be the droolings of a Marxist Canadian dipshit like you.