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Pull that section up on Google Earth.

You mean that software that's based on the earth being... a globe?

Don't blow this troll now -- you've come too far.
That might be the take that does it really. He is close. Can somebody push him off the edge of his flat earth please ?
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So to recap: Duhrron has no idea what joists are and is also 3’ tall.
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Queerland wrote:So to recap: Duhrron has no idea what joists are and is also 3’ tall.
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shutyomouth wrote:So you’ve no map to go on? Again, you’re using that as an out for your flawed theory. The economics of transportation alone throw your flawed theory into a bowl of gut pudding.

My theory is that the globe is wrong.
I need not produce a true map of the earth to show you that the globe is wrong.

The laser tests are evidence to show what we already know -- that water lays flat.
So show me the experiment which demonstrates water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball.
Such a concept is ridiculous.

Why are you not interested in the laser tests?
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Rooster wrote:Poptart, my post was not meant to be read in an aggressive tone, but to press you on what seem to me to be very logical questions which arise from the stipulation that the Earth is flat. We have plenty of explanations of how things work and why using a spherical model, but basic science— as is commonly known and understood today —would be hard pressed to give answers to many of the questions I posed to you concerning a flat or amoeba shaped earth.
No, they wouldn't.

I could have gone down the list and given an answer to them.
Answers are easy to find if you just look for them.
And for some of them, I do not have an answer for which I feel confident in, so in that case, I say so.

I answered your first question -- the edge.


So the 2nd question...

Why no flat earth map?

People who realize the globe does not add up are trying to identify the certain shape of the earth -- and show THE map.
There are a plethora of unknowns.
It isn't that easy.


I an not going to go down your whole list of questions.
Research them yourself.

Or not.
It's up to you.


But now, Rooster...
Did you look at the laser tests?

Where is your science that shows that water can cling to the outside of a flying, spinning ball?

:?:

Have you ever quietly thought about how preposterous it is?
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Rooster wrote:It leads to a logical second question which is why has not a map been made of the boundary of what has been discovered so far if we dismiss a globe as the structure of our planet?
You are not aware of a basic flat earth model.

There are a variety of models, but they tend to look something like this...


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The center of the map is the North Pole.
The white part that circles the outside of the map is Antarctica.

Beyond Antarctica in any direction is "the edge," if there is an edge.
Maybe that isn't one?

My own theory is that Antarctica extends far beyond what is shown in this map --in all directions.
All ice, snow, and mountains.
So that no human can get to the edge.

And at the edge, imo, the firmament which covers the earth (as a dome) meets the land.


Nobody has seen the edge?
Maybe not.

Or maybe so.
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shutyomouth wrote:So you’ve no map to go on? Again, you’re using that as an out for your flawed theory. The economics of transportation alone throw your flawed theory into a bowl of gut pudding.

My theory is that the globe is wrong.
I need not produce a true map of the earth to show you that the globe is wrong.

The laser tests are evidence to show what we already know -- that water lays flat.
So show me the experiment which demonstrates water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball.
Such a concept is ridiculous.

Why are you not interested in the laser tests?

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Derron wrote:I make claims with no scientific basis at all, then when questioned I will just denigrate your take as horse shit.
7 laser tests in 7 locations in 7 weather conditions.

I posted the comprehensive study and 121 page report.

You are not making any sense at all, Derron.


Where is your science experiment showing water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball?

Post your science.

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Dinsdale wrote:
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Pull that section up on Google Earth.

You mean that software that's based on the earth being... a globe?

Don't blow this troll now -- you've come too far.
It is your model, clown.

Pull that section up on Google Earth.

Look at it.

Then try to use your brain and realize how completely stupid you have to be to believe water will behave like that.


Good grief.
You are seriously incapable of THINKing.
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.088 wrote:I am convinced that if you arranged 3,000 1' long levels parallel to the surface of the water along the edge of the pool, all of them would show as level, yet the surface of the water would not lie within a perfect plane. The surface of the water in the pool would lie within a curve equal to the curve of the shape of the erf at that elevation above sea level.
And yet the laser tests show that such is not the case.

So...

Yeah.
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shutyomouth wrote:Travel across America. Leave Atlanta and stay on a direct compass heading of 270 degrees and tell me where you end up. That is directly west. Where will you end up when you finally reach the Pacific?
On a flat earth, N is the only constant direction.

Moving W is not a straight line on a flat earth.

W circles the flat plane.
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shutyomouth wrote:Travel across America. Leave Atlanta and stay on a direct compass heading of 270 degrees and tell me where you end up. That is directly west. Where will you end up when you finally reach the Pacific?
On a flat earth, N is the only constant direction.

Moving W is not a straight line on a flat earth.

W circles the flat plane.
You claim to not know the shape of the earth, but you emphatically know what it isn’t, yet you do know compass and cardinal directions.

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Over the past 3 years I have posted a shit ton of evidence showing how the globe is preposterous and quite simply wrong.

Any rational person who has taken the time to actually look at what has been posted, and consider it, would have realized long ago that something is seriously wrong with the globe that they have been told is correct.

it is cognitive dissonance.

Folks are in luv with that precious globe.
They cannot begin to fathom that it might be incorrect.

It is the damnedest thing.


I long ago moved away from assuming the globe to be true.
The evidence for it is lacking, to put it mildly.

My assumption is that we are flat, stationary, enclosed.
But I don't claim to know that for a fact.

It is just my working assumption at this time.
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Proving I am wrong?
Post it.


Post the experiment showing water clinging to the outside of a flying, spinning ball.

Easy.


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Flight time from Satiago to Auckland: 12:35

Flight time from London to Auckland: 23:40


So, I guess that moronic model is out the window. Try another. Maybe one that can't be disproved in a few seconds next time.
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Softball Bat wrote:Over the past 3 years I have posted a shit ton of evidence showing how the globe is preposterous and quite simply wrong.

Any rational person who has taken the time to actually look at what has been posted, and consider it, would have realized long ago that something is seriously wrong with the globe that they have been told is correct.
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My assumption is that we are flat, stationary, enclosed.
But I don't claim to know that for a fact.

It is just my working assumption at this time.
Well ...that is a conclusive statement. Feel free to shut your fucking pie hole about the flat earth shit and we can get back to the daily " Fuck Trump " debates. This is getting in the way of that discourse.
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It makes perfect sense -- every other body we can see in space (including that one at night we can see with the naked eye)is spherical, and the earth is the lone exception. Perfectly logical.
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Dinsdale wrote: (including that one at night we can see with the naked eye)
Only one?

That big bright spot that's been showing up pre-dawn the past couple of weeks is pretty spherical well.

Jupiter is about to become fairly visible pretty soon too, from what I hear.
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If you're willing to get up early on December 31 you might get to see this:

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Mikey wrote:Jupiter is about to become fairly visible pretty soon too, from what I hear.
Based on predictions using a non-spherical planetary model, I'm sure.
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Mikey wrote:Jupiter is about to become fairly visible pretty soon too, from what I hear.
Based on predictions using a non-spherical planetary model, I'm sure.
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Dinsdale wrote:Flight time from Satiago to Auckland: 12:35

Flight time from London to Auckland: 23:40


So, I guess that moronic model is out the window. Try another. Maybe one that can't be disproved in a few seconds next time.
You really are an incredible dumbass.


1. Link us up to where I said this is the map of the earth.

2. It was evident that Rooster was not aware of the concept of a flat earth, so I simply showed him an example of a flat earth model.

poptart wrote:You are not aware of a basic flat earth model.

There are a variety of models, but they tend to look something like this...

I never claimed that is the earth, or that that is the map of the earth.


3. Did you take the flight and document it?

4. Did you post the science experiment which shows that water can cling to the outside of a flying and spinning ball? When are you going to get around to addressing this fantasy of yours that you pass off as fact?


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Dinsdale wrote:It makes perfect sense -- every other body we can see in space (including that one at night we can see with the naked eye)is spherical, and the earth is the lone exception. Perfectly logical.
How do you know they are spherical?

If they are spherical, how does that prove your globe?



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shutyomouth wrote:Yeah - but all pilots (like Lefty) are secretly told to fly different routes and to bend time to keep the globe theory going.
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Softball Bat wrote: How do you know they are spherical?
Ask a 3rd grader.
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No 3rd grader would ever believe water clings to the outside of a flying, spinning ball -- unless they were indoctrinated into that completely irrational fairy tale.

You believe something utterly ridiculous.
And compounding your stupidity is the fact that you have no science experiment to show that will confirm the laffable nonsense you believe.

Even further, you have now been alerted to the folly you believe in, and yet you continue to vigorously defend it.


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shutyomouth wrote:You've yet to address the most logical aspect of this all - economics. 'Tardt, AGAIN, what would be the advantage of this all? I know one time you said "NASA!!!". Really? Would the entire rest of the planet be geared towards saving their asses? If what we're on is flat - then so what? We're here, and we have to make do. The distances between two places would all be different than what it's based on now. The costs would be absolutely mind-bending about how it would be to keep the illusion up that the earth is round if it were really flat - and all for really not a big fucking reason (again - we're here regardless). There would be no logic in keeping up an illusion of whether what we're on is flat or round. It really wouldn't be a huge fucking deal.
I have addressed this now multiple times.

You are making assumptions and you have created scenarios in your mind which are, imo, not accurate.

I can say no more to you on this.
If because of this, you are sure your globe is correct, so be it.
Enjoy your globe!


If we're in a sphere, what's on the outside of the sphere? You may call it "nothing", but something has to house all of this.
I assume water is above the firmament.
I don't claim it for a fact, but it is my assumption.


And finally - people had figured out the earth was round waaaaay before NASA. Way before flight. Hell - damned near before money. Are you grasping any of this? Pythagoras was probably the first person that proposed the Earth was round sometime around 500 B.C.. What in Charlie Daniels' fuck would it have made at that point? Have we been keeping this illusion up for over 2500 years?

Where's the logic?
People made theories long ago about the earth being a globe, yes.
But they did not know it.
When rockets began going up, people could know for sure about the earth.

To paint with a broad brush, those who pushed the idea of the globe were "anti-God."

As I have told you...
If the earth is a random rock flying around in space, and it is one of a near infinite number of such rocks, it is pretty easy to deny a Creator.
But if the earth is flat and enclosed, it is evident that there is a Creator.

Something along these lines has been commonly understood as an earth model for most of human existence.
It is what is presented in the Bible.



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The idea is that the earth is flat and stationary.
It is covered by a firmament which contains the sun, moon, and stars.
Waters are above the firmament.

The globe is the more radical idea, for many reasons.
It demands that water behave in ways that we know water does not behave.
It is irrational and frankly stupid.
This has now been pointed out to you many times.

The globe model also goes against what we directly experience.
We experience that we are flat (basically) and stationary, with the celestial bodies moving in a circuit above us.

It is only in more "recent times" that the globe has become a more (much more) accepted idea.
What you see above is what the majority of people have thought through human history.
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I wasn't talking about you denying the Creator.

I was talking about those who deviated from Biblical cosmology and pushed the globe, such at Pythagoras.

You brought him up and I said this...

poptart wrote:People made theories long ago about the earth being a globe, yes.
But they did not know it.
When rockets began going up, people could know for sure about the earth.

To paint with a broad brush, those who pushed the idea of the globe were "anti-God."
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Softball Bat wrote: I was talking about those who deviated from Biblical cosmology and pushed the globe, such at Pythagoras.
Yup, Pythagoras read that bible, then cast it aside, and said "fuck you, Jesus."

That's toooooootally what happened.
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But is is all contained inside......a round sphere type thing. Why is this illustration not in a rectangle ??
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Papa Willie wrote:Where did I deny a creator, dumbass?
The last time you covered this probably....

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Derron wrote:Image





But is is all contained inside......a round sphere type thing. Why is this illustration not in a rectangle ??

And God shakes it to make it snow.
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shutyomouth wrote:You’re an absolute mess, dude. Seriously.
It isn't my fault that you can't read or pay attention.

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Dinsdale wrote:
Softball Bat wrote: I was talking about those who deviated from Biblical cosmology and pushed the globe, such at Pythagoras.
Yup, Pythagoras read that bible, then cast it aside, and said "fuck you, Jesus."

That's toooooootally what happened.
He lived 500 yrs before Jesus, 'tard.



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But is is all contained inside......a round sphere type thing. Why is this illustration not in a rectangle ??
Like the shape of your head?
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.088 wrote:Too bad the Good Book didn't include a few chapters devoted to things like physics, chemistry, astronomy, logic, and basically self-identifying when you've pushed a dumb fucking notion way the fuck too far. If it had, the snow-globe within which we apparently live would be a much better place.
Do you want to post the science experiment which shows water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball?



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Softball Bat wrote: I was talking about those who deviated from Biblical cosmology and pushed the globe, such at Pythagoras.
Yup, Pythagoras read that bible, then cast it aside, and said "fuck you, Jesus."

That's toooooootally what happened.
He lived 500 yrs before Jesus, 'tard.
So, you understand just how badly you KYOA (again)?

Kind of hard for him to "deviate" from something that didn't exist, no?
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.088 wrote:Too bad the Good Book didn't include a few chapters devoted to things like physics, chemistry, astronomy, logic, and basically self-identifying when you've pushed a dumb fucking notion way the fuck too far. If it had, the snow-globe within which we apparently live would be a much better place.
Do you want to post the science experiment which shows water clinging to the outside of a flying and spinning ball?



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You're really struggling with the whole gravity concept, ain'cha, pop. A ball large enough to not only create its own gravitational field, but cancell out our globes field would be kinda big.
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Dunce wrote:So, you understand just how badly you KYOA (again)?

Kind of hard for him to "deviate" from something that didn't exist, no?
I understand that you are a desperate, stupid, flailing freak.

YOU brought up Jesus, not me.

I said anti-God and I spoke of Biblical cosmology -- which existed LONG before Jesus walked the earth.


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