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BSmack wrote:No need to. The fact that simple logic flies over your head like a GPS satellite tells me you likely didn't take anything more complicated than Bonfire 111- Principles of Unsound Pyramid Building during your time at aTm.

Simple logic? I would have thought if you used simple logic, you would have never asked the question. Simple logic dictates this is the rule in CFB long befor eit was a rule in pro football. It would be a guess on my part (run off and play google more) but it was probably the same rule int he NFL at one point and got changed there.

Kind of like the 2 point conversion was a CFB rule, then an NFL rule, then not an NFL rule and then an NFL rule again. Maybe you can enlighten us on why the NFL deemed it appropriate to copy CFB, then diferentiate, then go back to copying? Or you can just leave well enough alone and shut the fuck up like you should have done a long time ago.

Oh, and claiming bode where there is none and going to the "I'm making you melt" card is classic white flag. Keep it up, fool.

OUMO wrote:

BSmack wrote:If by "being clowned" you mean "got a bunch of honks to go Chernobyl over a simple question" then I guess you have a point.

Yeah you got over.

Are you going to ask what those people are doing on the field with sticks, drums, brass things and such next?

I already know the answer to that. They're gaying up my TV on New Years Day.

IndyFrisco wrote:Simple logic? I would have thought if you used simple logic, you would have never asked the question. Simple logic dictates this is the rule in CFB long befor eit was a rule in pro football. It would be a guess on my part (run off and play google more) but it was probably the same rule int he NFL at one point and got changed there.

Kind of like the 2 point conversion was a CFB rule, then an NFL rule, then not an NFL rule and then an NFL rule again. Maybe you can enlighten us on why the NFL deemed it appropriate to copy CFB, then diferentiate, then go back to copying? Or you can just leave well enough alone and shut the fuck up like you should have done a long time ago.

Oh, and claiming bode where there is none and going to the "I'm making you melt" card is classic white flag. Keep it up, fool.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess BS doesn't have a response for this....not surprised but maybe if IF didn't go all "crazy melt" all over him this wouldn't happen.

Sky wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Simple logic? I would have thought if you used simple logic, you would have never asked the question. Simple logic dictates this is the rule in CFB long befor eit was a rule in pro football. It would be a guess on my part (run off and play google more) but it was probably the same rule int he NFL at one point and got changed there.

Kind of like the 2 point conversion was a CFB rule, then an NFL rule, then not an NFL rule and then an NFL rule again. Maybe you can enlighten us on why the NFL deemed it appropriate to copy CFB, then diferentiate, then go back to copying? Or you can just leave well enough alone and shut the fuck up like you should have done a long time ago.

Oh, and claiming bode where there is none and going to the "I'm making you melt" card is classic white flag. Keep it up, fool.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess BS doesn't have a response for this....not surprised but maybe if IF didn't go all "crazy melt" all over him this wouldn't happen.

Well, for one, the 2 pt. conversion was an AFL rule, not an NFL rule back in the 60's. The NFL only adopted the rule in 1994. It is, by far, the best rule change the NFL has adopted in the last 20 years.

But hey, if IF is going to spew illogic, he might as well also make it completely nonfactual as well.

I'm not even going to begin to get into his suppositions about when and where the down by no contact rule might have been adopted. "Simple logic" dictates that CFB derived from rugby rules. Rugby rules call for a player to be down after being tackled. Obviously, this changed for CFB. But, as per usualm, IF does not know where, when or why.

Adelpiero wrote: Duncedale claiming Oregon was going to dryfuck BYU and an easy cover: Dinsed

Link?

Oregon st will destroy MU and the cover will be done by halftime: dinsed

MU and KU are shit teams, they wont jump oregon, blah, blah, im going to make this into a 3 page rant to look good: Dinsed

I believe I said "IF Oregon wins out." I also said "there's a lot of ball left to be played."

Nice you're resorting to lies and half-truths to try and make a point, though.


What seems lost in all this, and I hate to break up your anti-Dinsdale party, is that the conference championship is still in sight.

I was pretty damn bummed after that debaucle, but considerin g the Ducks were predicted to finish 6th in the conference, I'm OK with it.

Let's see -- the starting QB was a no-show all summer, and wasn't even looking like he was going to start... then he enjoyed a brief run as America's Heisman Sweetheart.

This 6th-placed PAC10 team went into the Big House and kicked the living shit out of UM, for the H&H sweep.

Starting early in the season, the skill position players started dropping one by one. The other half of the two-headed running game... gone. #1 senior reciever(by far)... gone. #2 senior reciever... gone. They actually had to get the WR coaches kid to walk on (who just happened to be a freshman at U of O... I think he was sandbagging until the reciever corps thinned out a bit... sooner than expected) and put a jersey on the field a team.

We (yeah, I'll say "we" even after a big loss) were rolling out 11 freshmen. 11. The entire "Li" section of the phone book couldn't keep up with all of the redshirts hitting the laundry hamper.


Yet, they still scratched and clawed their way all the way back to #2. Let's see LSU, or any other team lose half of their starting lineup and move up to #2.


Yeah, that'll happen.


Pile on all you like -- this season had nothing going for it, yet somehow there was a "#2" next to Oregon's name on the scoreboard, despite losing everyone on the roster not named Dennis Dixon or JStew. If anyone thinks that I, or any other Ducksfan would be disappointed by that, then you might want to rethink everything you know about college football.

Obviously, I wanted a sniff of the championship game. If anyone said it was a possibilty in August, I would have got a hearty laugh and appreciated their optimism.

Last night was a bummer. But looking at the Big Picture... the PAC is in trrrrroooooouble. Hell, I thought it was Season Over Time when Brian Paysinger went down. It should have been double-season over when Colvin bought the farm. Yet Oregon just kept pulling off redshirts, plugging them in, and freaking winning in impressive fashion. And frankly, if a bunch of freshmen with no experience were performing at that level, what's going to happen with them in 2 years?

Are you kissing me? This has been the greatest "throwaway" season I've ever seen. Words can't describe the feeling when your big stars go down, and you just throw in the next 4-star to fill his shoes. That's not a luxury Oregon has ever enjoyed before, that's USC's gig -- now, it's the norm. I used to wonder if the elusive championship would ever happen in my lifetime, now it's almost a given.


Sure, I gave my shower rod a good long look last night... for about an hour. Then, the Big Picture kicked in, and I couldn't help but have a huge smile on my face. Getting knocked off #2 is always going to suck, but when you do it with a team that's said to be the worst in many years -- it doesn't sting nearly so badly.

I was actually hoping Belchokki would put Whatshisface... Nathan Costas in at QB once Leaf went gimpy, but since he was hoisting the clipboard while wearing a big ol wrap on his knee last game, it was probably for the better.


But if you guys were looking for tales of a Dinsdale suicidal rage... you missed your 30 minute window of opportunity. The future's so freaking bright, I gotta wear shades. Get used to hearing the name Ducks frequently. It only gets better from here.

BeenSmackedupanddown,

Have your last word. You're a post total whore, and that didn't come about by shutting the fuck up when you should have. I think the overall unanimous opinion here, sans your own, speaks volumes. By all means though, keep flailing away in your pit of quicksand.

Dear God man. You've gotten to the point where you can't even reference the subject you're replying to anymore. Now you're appealing to the majority and citing post total stats in place of any relevant information. Mix in an IKYWBWAI blast and you'll win a free trip to Kansas City.

6'6" and 205? That dude must be thin as rails.

War Stoops wrote:

Indy wrote:And that's the typical response I see from OU Fan which is why they are respected by me at least. skull is the only one that sometimes goes over the top with his fandom. He's toned it down a ton over the years too. Walking around with one's chest puffed out is for losers.

So true on our man skully. He came in here louder than maybe anyone in the history our little community. I remember accusing him of being a bandwagon fan because he came around after 2000 but he's certainly proved me wrong. Funny as hell too.

Thanks for the props. As I've seen you smack your own on Texags, I have to say that OU Insider is maybe the worst thing ever set loose on the world. We've all got our dumbfuck fans.

OUinsider is attrocious, I completly agree but Tex(F)ags.com is by far and away the most delusional site in the hitsory of the interweb...

Jsc810 wrote:Don't put LSU in the title game yet. Three more games before any bowl game. I'm not looking past this weekend at Ole Miss.

Reporting live from Bourbon Street, btw. Rack the French Quarter.

If there is a God he won't allow both Oklahoma and LSU to win out. I don't ever want to deal with those inbreds ever again :!: :!: :!:

BSmack wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Don't give me that shit. You came in here with your NFL ego shitting on the CFB rule because the NFL has a different rule.

No, I asked a simple fucking question. And you immediately flipped out rather than simply answering the fucking question. Why don't you just knock out a few teeth and mix in a "You think yer better than me?" blast in for good measure?

You later went to the "experts" card when referring to us "CFB honks" because when those who came up with the CFB rules didn't put a provision in that states that in the event a superior professional league is formed, here is our reasoning for saying a player is down and the ball is dead when his knee touched the ground whether contacted by the opposing team or not.

I just thought you might have some knowledge on the issue. Since you didn't, you probably should have just shut up. Maybe, if I care enough tomorrow, I'll chat up a co-worker of mine who has 25 years experience as an official in local HS and college. He may think it's a stupid question, but at least I'll get an intelligent answer out of him on the subject.

The fact of the matter is this. You did not think before you typed. The NCAA rule was in effect long before the NFL ever existed. That being said, there is no reason for there to be "further reasoning" behind the rule. If anything, the NFL should have further reasoning for their rule...not that I'd question it. Like I said. It is what it is. And to repeat, I answere what I perceived as a stupid question with a stupid answer. By no means did I think "because it is the rule" was a philosophic answer that was deducted from years of research...

Well, at least you know that you were spouting shit. I guess that means my smack SOS just went up a couple of points.

This was a great thread going... until Bsmack had to come in and tard it up.

Is there any way to relegate him to either the NFL or Poli board for a week or so during the Bowls so we don't have to go through this again? Just askin'...

TardSmack wrote:If by "being clowned" you mean "got a bunch of honks to go Chernobyl over a simple question" then I guess you have a point.

Yeah you've proven yourself to be the beacon of intelligence in every forum you have graced with you presence.

Dinsdale wrote:

Adelpiero wrote: Duncedale claiming Oregon was going to dryfuck BYU and an easy cover: Dinsed

Link?

Oregon st will destroy MU and the cover will be done by halftime: dinsed

MU and KU are shit teams, they wont jump oregon, blah, blah, im going to make this into a 3 page rant to look good: Dinsed

I believe I said "IF Oregon wins out." I also said "there's a lot of ball left to be played."

Nice you're resorting to lies and half-truths to try and make a point, though.


What seems lost in all this, and I hate to break up your anti-Dinsdale party, is that the conference championship is still in sight.

I was pretty damn bummed after that debaucle, but considerin g the Ducks were predicted to finish 6th in the conference, I'm OK with it.

Let's see -- the starting QB was a no-show all summer, and wasn't even looking like he was going to start... then he enjoyed a brief run as America's Heisman Sweetheart.

This 6th-placed PAC10 team went into the Big House and kicked the living shit out of UM, for the H&H sweep.

Starting early in the season, the skill position players started dropping one by one. The other half of the two-headed running game... gone. #1 senior reciever(by far)... gone. #2 senior reciever... gone. They actually had to get the WR coaches kid to walk on (who just happened to be a freshman at U of O... I think he was sandbagging until the reciever corps thinned out a bit... sooner than expected) and put a jersey on the field a team.

We (yeah, I'll say "we" even after a big loss) were rolling out 11 freshmen. 11. The entire "Li" section of the phone book couldn't keep up with all of the redshirts hitting the laundry hamper.


Yet, they still scratched and clawed their way all the way back to #2. Let's see LSU, or any other team lose half of their starting lineup and move up to #2.


Yeah, that'll happen.


Pile on all you like -- this season had nothing going for it, yet somehow there was a "#2" next to Oregon's name on the scoreboard, despite losing everyone on the roster not named Dennis Dixon or JStew. If anyone thinks that I, or any other Ducksfan would be disappointed by that, then you might want to rethink everything you know about college football.

Obviously, I wanted a sniff of the championship game. If anyone said it was a possibilty in August, I would have got a hearty laugh and appreciated their optimism.

Last night was a bummer. But looking at the Big Picture... the PAC is in trrrrroooooouble. Hell, I thought it was Season Over Time when Brian Paysinger went down. It should have been double-season over when Colvin bought the farm. Yet Oregon just kept pulling off redshirts, plugging them in, and freaking winning in impressive fashion. And frankly, if a bunch of freshmen with no experience were performing at that level, what's going to happen with them in 2 years?

Are you kissing me? This has been the greatest "throwaway" season I've ever seen. Words can't describe the feeling when your big stars go down, and you just throw in the next 4-star to fill his shoes. That's not a luxury Oregon has ever enjoyed before, that's USC's gig -- now, it's the norm. I used to wonder if the elusive championship would ever happen in my lifetime, now it's almost a given.


Sure, I gave my shower rod a good long look last night... for about an hour. Then, the Big Picture kicked in, and I couldn't help but have a huge smile on my face. Getting knocked off #2 is always going to suck, but when you do it with a team that's said to be the worst in many years -- it doesn't sting nearly so badly.

I was actually hoping Belchokki would put Whatshisface... Nathan Costas in at QB once Leaf went gimpy, but since he was hoisting the clipboard while wearing a big ol wrap on his knee last game, it was probably for the better.


But if you guys were looking for tales of a Dinsdale suicidal rage... you missed your 30 minute window of opportunity. The future's so freaking bright, I gotta wear shades. Get used to hearing the name Ducks frequently. It only gets better from here.

Rack Dins

SunCoastSooner wrote:This was a great thread going...

Still is, if you like smack.

You don't?

BSmack wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:This was a great thread going...

Still is, if you like smack.

You don't?

Not when it is one tard getting ass pounded by the entire board. Where is the fun in beating up on the kid who rode the short bus into the forum?

SunCoastSooner wrote:Not when it is one tard getting ass pounded by the entire board. Where is the fun in beating up on the kid who rode the short bus into the forum?

Ah, going with the appeal to the majority just like your brother in tardship IF. And you mixed in a gratuitous ad hominem for good measure. What a good little boy. Now go fuck yourself with a Heisman.

BSmack wrote:

SunCoastSooner wrote:Not when it is one tard getting ass pounded by the entire board. Where is the fun in beating up on the kid who rode the short bus into the forum?

Ah, going with the appeal to the majority just like your brother in tardship IF. And you mixed in a gratuitous ad hominem for good measure. What a good little boy. Now go fuck yourself with a Heisman.

Appeal to the majority... for what. I wasn't even involved. Missed out on the "special" kid receiving the wedgie and a swift kick in the ass out on the ball field.

I just was only curious if there was any way to prevent your tardisms from staining the Bowl season.

SunCoastSooner wrote:I just was only curious...

That's what Guy Fawkes said.

To piggy back on what Dins was saying.

Here's all of our season stats.

Red - Player lost for season
Orange - Player out injured by the end of last night's game.
Black - Healthy player

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
Dennis Dixon 172 254 2136 67.7 8.41 20 4 161.2
Brady Leaf 30 61 231 49.2 3.79 0 2 74.4
Justin Roper 1 1 10 100.0 10.00 0 0 184.0





Rushing Statistics
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Jonathan Stewart 205 1273 6.2 88(TD) 10
Dennis Dixon 105 583 5.6 80(TD) 9
Jeremiah Johnson 54 344 6.4 42(TD) 5
Andre Crenshaw 58 326 5.6 39 4
Remene Alston 23 42 1.8 10 1
Derrick Jones 2 40 20.0 25 0
Kwame Agyeman 1 40 40.0 40 0
Brian Paysinger 3 25 8.3 14(TD) 1
Daniel Barkley 1 8 8.0 8 0
Geoff Schwartz 1 3 3.0 3 0
Aaron Pflugrad 1 2 2.0 2 0
Brady Leaf 14 1 0.1 14 0
Totals 476 2681 5.6 88 30



Receiving Statistics
NAME REC YDS YPR LONG TD
Jaison Williams 45 744 16.5 52(TD) 7
Ed Dickson 33 389 11.8 46 2
Cameron Colvin 20 248 12.4 71(TD) 2
Garren Strong 22 199 9.0 17 1
Brian Paysinger 9 165 18.3 85(TD) 2
Derrick Jones 17 164 9.6 61(TD) 2
Aaron Pflugrad 16 145 9.1 22(TD) 1
Jonathan Stewart 20 116 5.8 15 1
Jeremiah Johnson 7 98 14.0 35(TD) 1
Drew Davis 3 35 11.7 19(TD) 1
Malachi Lewis 2 21 10.5 18 0
Rory Cavaille 2 17 8.5 9 0
Andre Crenshaw 3 12 4.0 7 0
Ryan Keeling 1 10 10.0 10 0
Matt Larkin 1 10 10.0 10 0
Terence Scott 2 4 2.0 5 0
Totals 203 2377 11.7 85 20

Remarkable that we've made it this far.

Oregon benefited by facing the Trojans who were missing a ton of starters, seems like justice that its happening to the Ducks now

JayDuck wrote:To piggy back on what Dins was saying.

Here's all of our season stats.

Red - Player lost for season
Orange - Player out injured by the end of last night's game.
Black - Healthy player

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT RAT
Dennis Dixon 172 254 2136 67.7 8.41 20 4 161.2
Brady Leaf 30 61 231 49.2 3.79 0 2 74.4
Justin Roper 1 1 10 100.0 10.00 0 0 184.0



Rushing Statistics
NAME CAR YDS YPC LONG TD
Jonathan Stewart 205 1273 6.2 88(TD) 10
Dennis Dixon 105 583 5.6 80(TD) 9
Jeremiah Johnson 54 344 6.4 42(TD) 5
Andre Crenshaw 58 326 5.6 39 4
Remene Alston 23 42 1.8 10 1
Derrick Jones 2 40 20.0 25 0
Kwame Agyeman 1 40 40.0 40 0
Brian Paysinger 3 25 8.3 14(TD) 1
Daniel Barkley 1 8 8.0 8 0
Geoff Schwartz 1 3 3.0 3 0
Aaron Pflugrad 1 2 2.0 2 0
Brady Leaf 14 1 0.1 14 0
Totals 476 2681 5.6 88 30



Receiving Statistics
NAME REC YDS YPR LONG TD
Jaison Williams 45 744 16.5 52(TD) 7
Ed Dickson 33 389 11.8 46 2
Cameron Colvin 20 248 12.4 71(TD) 2
Garren Strong 22 199 9.0 17 1
Brian Paysinger 9 165 18.3 85(TD) 2
Derrick Jones 17 164 9.6 61(TD) 2
Aaron Pflugrad 16 145 9.1 22(TD) 1
Jonathan Stewart 20 116 5.8 15 1
Jeremiah Johnson 7 98 14.0 35(TD) 1
Drew Davis 3 35 11.7 19(TD) 1
Malachi Lewis 2 21 10.5 18 0
Rory Cavaille 2 17 8.5 9 0
Andre Crenshaw 3 12 4.0 7 0
Ryan Keeling 1 10 10.0 10 0
Matt Larkin 1 10 10.0 10 0
Terence Scott 2 4 2.0 5 0
Totals 203 2377 11.7 85 20

Remarkable that we've made it this far.

Dude I know you're not looking for sympathy. Right?
Injuries suck and they're part of the game and as a fan you hold you breath and hope you can avoid them on a large scale
and to key players. Anyone in here can probably post a list of "players in red" for the team they follow. Hell you can come up with a color where a
player was out for a few or many games. Purple perhaps.

Remarkable? Maybe, but as long as you had Dixon Oregon had enough talent to get it done. He goes down and now you don't.
BTW, Dixon going out there and trying to play on that knee was just balls.

SoCalTrjn wrote:Oregon benefited by facing the Trojans who were missing a ton of starters, seems like justice that its happening to the Ducks now

PSSSST!!!!


At the time they played, Oregon was missing about the same number of starters as USC... maybe a couple of more... meaning "a bunch."

If USC loses starters, it's an excuse. If Oregon loses starters, it's "justice"?

You earn every bit of that Board Bitch status.

USC has never legitimately lost a game. It's only because they've been "decimated" by injuries.

USC has lost plenty of games and never did I say that injuries were an excuse, Im just stating that if Oregon wants sympathy for a couple of injuries this year, they can look between shit and syphilis in the dictionary the amount of injuries they have had doesnt come close to the amount that USC has had this season


Dixon can go back to baseball now

SoCalTrjn wrote:the amount of injuries they have had doesnt come close to the amount that USC has had this season

And the point was, they've had every bit the injury problems that USC has had, if not worse.


Ignorant dumbass. That's right up there with "Mizzou has GREAT WINS because of where the opponents will be ranked at the time, but other teams should be judged by where the opponents finish at the end of the year."

Jsc810 wrote:Dins, what is the proper way to measure strength of schedule, by how opponents are ranked at the time of the game, or where they are ranked at the end of the season?

Can't say I can give a bulletproof answer either way.

One thing I can say, with absolute certainty, is that whatever system you use, you should use the same one for every team... yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Mizzoutard.


And when contenders schedule shit like a 1AA AND the worst team in D1 in the same season, their SoS ranking should read "BWAHAHAHA!!!!! Get the fuck out of here!"

GreginPG wrote:
Dude I know you're not looking for sympathy. Right?
Injuries suck and they're part of the game and as a fan you hold you breath and hope you can avoid them on a large scale
and to key players. Anyone in here can probably post a list of "players in red" for the team they follow. Hell you can come up with a color where a
player was out for a few or many games. Purple perhaps.

Remarkable? Maybe, but as long as you had Dixon Oregon had enough talent to get it done. He goes down and now you don't.
BTW, Dixon going out there and trying to play on that knee was just balls.

did you read what Dins, or I wrote? It has nothing to do with sympathy. We are pointing out why we aren't dissapointed.

As far as having enough to "get it done". Well, we do need SC to take care of ASU now, but I suspect they will and that we'll be in the Rose Bowl anyway.

Even with Dixon, the game at Arizona was our toughest remaining game. And, once the shock wore off we played well enough, on defense, to beat UCLA and OSU

JayDuck wrote:We are pointing out why we aren't dissapointed.

Exactly. Once the initial disappointment of dropping out of a chance the championship game subsided, any reasonable fan had to be overjoyed that as the starters kept hitting the shelf and the redshirts came off, making the letters "Fr" in the starting lineup the norm rather than the exception, the number next to "Oregon" kept getting lower, peaking at #2.

If ANY team lost damn-near half of its starters, yet still managed to climb to #2, they'd be jumping for joy if they had any brains.

Ok, I get that. Maybe it's just the mindset then.
USC has had it's share of injuries and maybe more so. As of now they have lost 2
games and yet I'm a bit disappointed. They gave away a game to Stanford because
they came out and played flat, unemotional, sloppy football. They could have won that game
inspite of the in-game injury to Booty and other players already on the shelf.
They certainly played well enough to win the Oregon game, could have won it but didn't.
Oregon played just a bit better.

IMO you should be disappointed. Everything set up perfectly for Oregon this year,
especially considering their schedule. All of Oregon's toughest in-conference games were
at Autzen.

So you say you're not disappointed. I'll take you at your word.
Maybe when Oregon loses at least one of their last two games you will be.