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.m2 wrote:Poor Vannie, doesn't realize that section is locked down all day long.(Novato to San Rafael)

The hell it is. Construction there is nearly complete and traffic moves smoothly through there during non peak traffic hours. Go through there right now and you'll breeze right through.

As far as Vannie saying highway 1 and 101 cross .....


I can't stop laughing.

Neither can a wind up jackass-in-a-box.

Unfortunately for you you're apparently unaware that there's a Hwy 1/Stinson Beach exit on 101 South, just a few minutes below the Muir Woods exit off Hwy 1.

Pretty fucking funny, if you've been going all the way over Mt Tam just to get to Muir Woods or Stinson Beach.

There's no way you're not aware of this though, so you're simply trolling.

Here's Highway 1 in Marin County (Stinson Beach to Bolinas).... you dipshit!

What's that got to do with anything?? Bolinas Beach is north of Stinson Beach and they're both north of the Muir Woods turnoff off of Hwy 1.

Nobody who isn't lost would be that far north on Hwy 1 North, not if they're going to Muir Woods. They're headed the wrong way. They wouldn't even reach Stinson Beach, much less Bolinas Beach, not if they're headed to Muir Woods on Hwy 1 north.

One would have to be heading south on Hwy 1 for Bolinas or Stinson to even come into play.

Hell, there's even a sign on 101 South that says "Muir Woods" when you come up on the Hwy 1/Stinson Beach exit. Once you exit there you're just a few minutes from the Muir Woods exit off of Hwy 1 North.

It takes 30 to 45 minutes to get from 101 to highway 1 and a drive over 3,000 foot Mount Tamalpais....

Sure, if you're a fucken' monkey who can't read a simple road map.

If you can read a road map you'd skip all that nonsense and simply take 101 South to the Hwy 1/Stinson Beach exit and you'd be at Muir Woods in just a matter of a few minutes.

Poor Vannie.... you'll get to Muir Woods one day.

Probably a good hour ahead of you too, judging by your lack of knowledge of the most well known freeways and highways in your area.

Please, by all means, use that world famous Stinson Beach to Bolinas Beach Hwy 1 North route to get to Muir Woods.

Brilliant!

Damn, you both suck huge balls.

I don't live in NoCal, but I do have internet access...


http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=37.884 ... 31&zoom=13



Both of you go to your rooms, children. M2 for saying 1 and 101 don't meet, Van for saying it doesn't involve going around Mt. Tam.


Looks like you're both idiots... call it a day.

Nope, Dins. US-101 doesn't involve Mt Tam. It drops you down into Mill Valley, at the Hwy 1 North exit, south of Mt Tam. You then scoot north along the base of the Mt Tam foothills until you come to the choice of continuing on Hwy 1 north to Stinson Beach or exiting Hwy 1 at the Muir Woods turnoff.

You may also head up into Mt Tam, off of Hwy 1.

In fact, to further bury m2 let's use Mt Tam State Park's own website directions on how to get to Mt Tam...

Location-Directions
North of San Francisco's Golden Gate. From Highway 101 take Highway 1 to the Stinson Beach exit and follow signs up the mountain.

Hmm. Says there that there's a Hwy 1/Stinson Beach exit, on Hwy 101.

Imagine that.

In any case Dins, Mt Tam is technically to the north of US-101. US-101 smartly avoids Mt Tam by dipping down to the south, into the valley that leads down into the Golden Gate Bridge and San Francisco Bay.

Once you're on certain trails in Muir Woods you can see Mt Tam though, if that counts for anything.

his commute time from his place in SF to an Emerald Bowl rally, in SF no less, runs him about four hours. Of course his time included getting stopped by a cop on the Golden Gate Bridge.

Add to that his customary detour through The Castro, and the subsequent jog through the car wash...time flies when he's having fun.

Van wrote:Nope, Dins. US-101 doesn't involve Mt Tam...
In any case Dins, Mt Tam is technically to the north of US-101. US-101 smartly avoids Mt Tam by dipping down to the south

So, your defense here is...

"No, Dins, it doesn't go AROUND Mt Tam, it goes around Mt Tam!"


Dude -- you're almost as guilty as M2 in tossing any ol' random collection of words out of your hole in the name of trying to make the other guy sound dumb.

Guess what -- neither one of you succeeded in making the other guy look dumb... but you both did a tremendous number making yourselves look dumb.

Wrong, Dins. US-101 south of San Rafael into the Golden Gate Bridge doesn't go around Mt Tam anymore than it goes "around" the Sierras. It completely bypasses Mt Tam due to Mt Tam's more northerly location.

m2 contended that one has to take 101 on a 3000' climb over Mt Tam in order to reach Hwy 1, which is patently absurd.

His entire contention is completely wrong while you're merely trying to dance around semantics with what I said. Merely being near a mountain doesn't mean something is going around a mountain.

US-101 required no diversions in its San Rafael to the GGB course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north.

Having to divert its course in order to bypass Mt Tam, that would be going around Mt Tam. No diversions were required though since it's a straight shot however between San Rafael and the GGB, with Mt Tam off to the north posing no obstacle.

So, no, US-101 does not go around Mt Tam. US-101 doesn't go around anything during that stretch of highway. It merely passes straight through low lying valleys and foothills, none of which are Mt Tam, on its way down into the Bay...

You're all fuckin' HIGH!

Nobody in San Francisco or Marin considers Shoreline Highway part of highway 1. Only the tourista's.


Pssst... Vannie.

Muir Woods isn't minutes from 101.... not even close.

It's minutes from Stinson Beach... about ten.

Muir Woods is on the WEST side of Mt. Tam.


Oh, and by the way... you reach around 2,000 feet on Shoreline Highway (which is going over Mt.Tam) since the right turn you take to get to the Summit ends a few hundred feet higher... and you walk the rest of the way to the summit.



This thread isn't working out well for the out a towner's .



Hey Vannie, you see that little bridge at the bottom of the page....



That's Highway 101 entering Marin City and Sausilito... not Mill Valley.

Mill Valley is the next exit north which takes you to Mill Valley and Tiburon/Belvedere.

Van wrote:m2 contended that one has to take 101 on a 3000' climb over Mt Tam in order to reach Hwy 1, which is patently absurd.

Bullshit!


Show me the quote....


Or consider yourself a liar on this whole fantasy trip of yours

Blueblood wrote:

Van wrote:m2 contended that one has to take 101 on a 3000' climb over Mt Tam in order to reach Hwy 1, which is patently absurd.

Bullshit!


Show me the quote....


Or consider yourself a liar on this whole fantasy trip of yours

m2, in this very thread, right between his stupid non sequitur pics, wrote:It takes 30 to 45 minutes to get from 101 to highway 1 and a drive over 3,000 foot Mount Tamalpais....

Btw, the signs on Shoreline Hwy say "US Hwy 1" and the government road maps all list Shoreline Dr and Hwy 1 as being the same thing during that stretch so whether or not YOU consider it to be Hwy 1 is irrelevant.

Who are you, TVO?

Less drugs next time. Try to be a bit more careful in what you submit, especially if you're going to continue to be so vehemently and obnoxiously wrong about everything you submit.

You are now dismissed.

Van wrote:

Blueblood wrote:

Van wrote:m2 contended that one has to take 101 on a 3000' climb over Mt Tam in order to reach Hwy 1, which is patently absurd.

Bullshit!


Show me the quote....


Or consider yourself a liar on this whole fantasy trip of yours

m2, in this very thread, right between his stupid non sequitur pics, wrote:It takes 30 to 45 minutes to get from 101 to highway 1 and a drive over 3,000 foot Mount Tamalpais....

Pssst... dipshit.

Where does it say that I said you take 101 over Mt. Tam ????????????????????????????????


You lose.... and only an ass clown will believe your story now.



This is too much.

Van wrote:Btw, the signs on Shoreline Hwy say "US Hwy 1" .

No they don't... you moron!


This is working out terribly... for you.

m2, listen closely...

AT NO POINT MUST ONE EVER GO OVER MT TAM TO GET TO MUIR WOODS. NOT FROM 101. MUIR WOODS IS OFF HWY 1, WHICH IS OFF OF US-101, WHICH YOU DENIED.

YOU FAIL.

Van wrote:m2, listen closely...

AT NO POINT MUST ONE EVER GO OVER MT TAM TO GET TO MUIR WOODS. NOT FROM 101. MUIR WOODS IS OFF HWY 1, WHICH IS OFF OF US-101, WHICH YOU DENIED.

YOU FAIL.

Huh ?


You've lost it .... Vannie.

Why is it beemer made an M1 and an M3, but, to my knowledge skipped over M2?

M2 must be some universal code for sucks shit, through a straw.

Rack BMW marketing dude.

So, m2ool - how's the weather where you really reside?

yeah, anyone can suck in mono. it takes a special kind of tard to do stereosuck.

smackaholic wrote:yeah, anyone can suck in mono. it takes a special kind of tard to do stereosuck.

So, this thread has absolutely helped in planning your itinerary, right?

Yeah. I won't be hiring mstool as a tour guide.

smackaholic wrote:Yeah. I won't be hiring mstool as a tour guide.

Yeah, don't ask the guy that knows more about California than anyone else on this board.

Idiot.


Vannie,

I've got an important question to ask you before I believe that you went to Muir Woods.



You see that little bridge at the bottom of the picture ?






Did you cross it on your way to Muir Woods ?

A simple yes or no will suffice.... no need for a long diatribe.

Vannie is googling feverishly.... for the answer.

Vannie's avoiding this question like the plague.


Hmmmm.

I'm still waiting for your answer... Vannie

This could take a while.


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Don't EVER question the truth






The truth is world wide.... from Denver to Houston.... to Kansas City.... to Miami.... New York and everywhere around the globe.

.m2 wrote: Don't EVER question the truth

lest you be pummeled with further youtube links

The truth is world wide.... from Denver to Houston.... to Kansas City.... to Miami.... New York and everywhere around the globe.

yup, you are a regular international superstar. able to post pics from anywhere.

Van wrote: Yeah, I guess for some particularly dimwitted types the English language is a very imperfect tool...as are its poorest practitioners.

Hook, Line and Sinker.

Hey dumbass, if you are going to go spelling smack you are supposed to at least still reply to the post.

Van wrote:US-101 required no diversions in its San Rafael to the GGB course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north.
No diversions were required though since it's a straight shot however between San Rafael and the GGB, with Mt Tam off to the north posing no obstacle.

San Rafael is north of Tam not the other way around and 101 is always east, east by southeast, southeast or south by southeast of Mt Tam coming of the peninsula. Tam isn't north of 101... ever. Not even when it's hugging the coast in Pismo or SB. Mt Tam is West 122° 34.666' longitude. The GGB is 122°29' and by the time 101 gets to Gilroy it's 121.568'. Pismo is 120 and SB is 119.

Can you read a map? It's a 5th grade skill. Can you do it?

R-Jack wrote:Dumbasses of the jury,

The client is not recognized by me as being guilty, so your shit ruling is knocked down right there.

sin,
The Dwarftossed One

That's funny. I used a very similar strategery on a rec stolen prop trail last spring. Of course I don't talk to the jury as a jury before their ruling so your syntax is a little off. Goes more like, "I don't see what the DA sees and I don't see what the cops or the other prosecution witnesses see, do you?" The jury hung and the DA never re-filed. As long as at least one person on the jury isn't a R-Jack or a Dins or a Van or a mvsKKKal my client has a good shot.

Thanks for playing and happy fucking Birthday you horse-fucking, cuntfaced, incestuous tard.

Link me to where he says tam is north of san rafael, dipshit.

He says that tam is north of 101as it goes from SR to the GGB. I will agree that saying tam is to the west might have been a better way of saying it, but, once you get to the GGB, which, btw, is somewhere along the course of 101 between SR and the GGB, tam surely is to the NW. And NW is close enough to N. Atleast it is among those who aren't nitpicking halfwits.

nitpicking dumbass midget wrote: San Rafael is north of Tam not the other way around and 101 is always east, east by southeast, southeast or south by southeast of Mt Tam coming of the peninsula. Tam isn't north of 101... ever.

So, eventually 101 gets to "south by southeast" of Tam, yet Tam is never north of 101?

I see.

Just how many fukking degrees off of north does one have to get before you are no longer to the north? 3 degrees? 5? Seems to me that south by southeast pretty much transposes to north by northwest. And if something is to the north northwest and somebody says it's to the north, I'm not gonna call them on it, unless I'm a fukking dumbass.

smackaholic wrote:Link me to where he says tam is north of san rafael, dipshit.

I just did you stupid cockcave.

He says that tam is north of 101as it goes from SR to the GGB.

And it's not. He could have at least said "US-101 required no diversions in its GGB to Corte Madera course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north."

I will agree that saying tam is to the west might have been a better way of saying it,

Now that would have been true at least in that part around Corte Madera.

but, once you get to the GGB, which, btw, is somewhere along the course of 101 between SR and the GGB, tam surely is to the NW. And NW is close enough to N. Atleast it is among those who aren't nitpicking halfwits.

No it's not. It is southwest, west by southwest, west, west by northwest and northwest. You can read a map right?

smackaholic wrote: And if something is to the north northwest and somebody says it's to the north, I'm not gonna call them on it, unless I'm a fukking dumbass.

So you will forgive Van his errors. How nice of you.

This thread has taken an exciting turn!

Sincerely,

Moving Sale wrote:

smackaholic wrote:Link me to where he says tam is north of san rafael, dipshit.

I just did you stupid cockcave.

no, dumbass, you didn't. he was refering to the route. At one end of the route, he is close enough being that it is northwest or maybe a bit north of northwest.

He says that tam is north of 101as it goes from SR to the GGB.

And it's not. He could have at least said "US-101 required no diversions in its GGB to Corte Madera course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north."

I will agree that saying tam is to the west might have been a better way of saying it,

Now that would have been true at least in that part around Corte Madera.

but, once you get to the GGB, which, btw, is somewhere along the course of 101 between SR and the GGB, tam surely is to the NW. And NW is close enough to N. Atleast it is among those who aren't nitpicking halfwits.

No it's not. It is southwest, west by southwest, west, west by northwest and northwest. You can read a map right?

you can fukking read, can't you. You say yourself that the GGB is south southeast of Tam. This is the exact same thing as saying Tam is north northwest of the GGB.

They really need to have a logic section in the cali. bar exam.

smackaholic wrote: you can fukking read, can't you. You say yourself that the GGB is south southeast of Tam. This is the exact same thing as saying Tam is north northwest of the GGB.

But that is not what he said. Move the goalposts much? He said 101 was north of mt tam on its route from SR to the GGB. It clearly isn't.
I know you like to suck Van's sack, but do you have to make yourself look so dumb doing it?

TVO, 101 is northeast of Mt Tam when 101 is running through the most northerly part of San Rafael.

101 then runs pretty much due east of Mt Tam, a little further south.

When 101 travels below Mt Tam on its way to the GGB it's nearly directly south of Mt Tam. It's south by southeast (or vice versa...whatever) of Mt Tam.

It's definitely south of Mt Tam though. It has to be, by definition, since it connects the Bay Area's northern and southern peninsulas and Mt Tam is on the southern tip of the northern peninsula.

If you wish to get hung up on a few degrees of weathervane crap then book yourself a room in SLO's famous Madonna Inn and knock yourself out.

After seeing so many Meatgrinder schedules down through the years I've had more than my fair share of weathervane discussions.

This has gone terribly wrong for you..... Vannie.

I was holding out hope that you really did make it to Muir Woods.

It turns out it was just a farce.

Pssst.....

Vannie, I drive past Mt. Tam twice a day on 101.... 5 days days a week, if not more.

Van wrote:TVO, 101 is northeast of Mt Tam when 101 is running through the most northerly part of San Rafael.

.... and when it's in central San Rafael.... and Larkspur.... and Corte Madera.... etc.

You really have no idea what your talking about.

Van wrote:When 101 travels below Mt Tam on its way to the GGB it's nearly directly south of Mt Tam.

Complete BULLSHIT!

Van wrote:Mt Tam is on the southern tip of the northern peninsula.

More BULLSHIT!!!

At least Smackaholic believes your trip....

Too funny.

Van wrote:After seeing so many Meatgrinder schedules down through the years I've had more than my fair share of weathervane discussions.

Huh?

Van wrote:US-101 required no diversions in its San Rafael to the GGB course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north.

So Mt Tam is North of SR.

Van wrote:TVO, 101 is northeast of Mt Tam when 101 is running through the most northerly part of San Rafael.

So SR is North of Mt Tam.

Make up your mind you stupid fuckhole.

101 is really long, TVO. Where you are on 101 will determine its relative directional heading compared to other fixed objects...like a small mountain.

Check this shit out...

Relative to Mt Tam, well, sometimes 101 is to the northeast. Sometimes it's southeast. Sometimes it's way the fuck north and sometimes it's way the hell south.

It's many hundreds of miles long. Mt Tam isn't. When the 101 passes directly below Mt Tam on its way into the San Francisco Bay it's no longer north or northeast of Mt Tam.

Suddenly it's southeast of Mt Tam, and shortly thereafter it's...still southeast of Mt Tam.

I see spelling and writing aren't the only simple concepts which elude you, TVO. (Or, better yet, "alood," in TVO-script.)

You're quite stupid. At least you debate horribly, and your writing is even worse. All in all you're just one charming little fucker.

Moving Sale wrote:

Van wrote:US-101 required no diversions in its San Rafael to the GGB course in order to avoid Mt Tam sitting off to the north.

So Mt Tam is North of SR.

I didn't say that. You skipped the part where I said "...to the GGB." I described a course, with San Rafael at the northern end and the GGB at the southern end.

Mt Tam is pretty much to the west of SR. The GGB is south of Mt Tam. The course 101 runs finds Mt Tam eventually sitting to the northwest of 101 at the tip of the Bay, whereas it had been to the west/southwest of 101 when 101 was still in SR.

Look at a map. Or have somebody smart look at one for you and explain what all the squiggly little lines mean. Maybe have them explain to you what a "course" is too. That'll help.
Hint: It's kinda like a "path" or a "route."

It's all really quite simple, once you get these basic concepts down.

Van wrote:TVO, 101 is northeast of Mt Tam when 101 is running through the most northerly part of San Rafael.

So SR is North of Mt Tam.

More east than north but still somewhat north, at the north end of town.

Make up your mind you stupid fuckhole.

I did. You just read very selectively. Skipping key words, that's a real reading comprehension bugaboo.

Van wrote:
Mt Tam is pretty much to the west of SR.

So is just about EVERYTHING in the lower 48.

Van wrote:Look at a map.

Don't have to.... here's San Rafael driving SOUTH on the 101.... with Mt. Tam. in the background.

... and it was taken today.





Pssst.... as you can see.... Mt. Tam is WELL south of San Rafael.... and you don't need a MAP!

Moving Sale wrote:That's funny. I used a very similar strategery on a rec stolen prop trail last spring. Of course I don't talk to the jury as a jury before their ruling so your syntax is a little off.

Priceless.

As long as at least one person on the jury isn't a Dins my client has a good shot.

Care to elaborate?

.m2 wrote:

Van wrote:
Mt Tam is pretty much to the west of SR.

So is just about EVERYTHING in the lower 48.

Uhm...


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