An open letter to PSUFAN...

[PSUFAN]

you pedaled right around it - again.


Spray, no one is asking you if you think it's a big deal or not. Let's ask the folks who didn't know a redirect was coming, like scs.

Let's try it once again:

Is it cool that Katy hijacked the domain and redirected unsuspecting users to NSFW sites?

That's a question for you - I don't need to ask Katy her thoughts on that, 1) I already have, and 2) she made it clear that was funny to her, because she did it.

Maybe you're fine with any and everything popping up on your screen - but we have folks who post here who don't share your attitude there. We mark threads for a reason...and when you're going to the CFB forum to read stuff there and Katy's NSFW stuff pops up, then there is a problem.

The question was put to YOU. Care to answer it?

[Biggie]

Ice Road Truckers.

[Cuda]

NSFW? it was on a fucking weekend

please continue sucking your own dicks, though

& Rack Biggie, btw

[PSUFAN]

One more question.

Can 'lil perk skip past fisting her and just go with the whole cranium?

Where is luth to visualize this when you need him?

[PSUFAN]

All I can say is...I'm glad we didn't incorporate video into the board.

Who needed to see 'lil perk swan dive into katy's meat mattress, with a side of Kentucky Quim Chee?

[SunCoastSooner]

That's a question for you - I don't need to ask Katy her thoughts on that, 1) I already have, and 2) she made it clear that was funny to her, because she did it.

I wonder just how fucking hilarious it would be if someone redirected her comp to a bunch of bouncing dicks while her kids were watching. I don't know how she raises her kids and that really isn't any of my business but I find it unacceptable for the children/adolescents I take responsibility for. Sex isn't a foreign subject in my household for the people who are of age or coming of age but I don't sit them down in front of pron and doubt Katy would do the same or appreciate it being done with her children.

NSFW? it was on a fucking weekend

please continue sucking your own dicks, though

& Rack Biggie, btw

NSFW has become more of a generic tag to indicate adult material not just to keep you out of trouble at your cubicle.

[PSUFAN]

No, spray - it's a dodge again - unless you're trying to say, "yes, I'm fine with the decision to take control of the domain against the will of the owners of the board and redirect unsuspecting users to porn, LV's site, and whatever else".

Is that what you're saying?

[PSUFAN]

You're answering my question with a request that I go to that website - but sorry, that's not going to happen.

It's simple enough - that's the sort of thing you're comfortable with, I guess. That's sort of a surprise to me.

[smackaholic]

As for re-directing it to the NSFW thing - it was changed back pretty quickly. Frankly - I thought it was a joke. I'm a grown up, self-employed, and I don't pull up much of anything when my kids are around the room, etc.. It was also done on a weekend. As many fucked up things as we've seen on the internet, making a big deal over something like that is damned near as gay as what it went to, but then again - I'm not, nor ever have been a super-sensitive person like that.

none of that matters. some here work weekends. it's just really bad form to guide anybody somewhere they don't wanna go. doesn't matter for how long or when.

[Van]

Spray, she took this board and hijacked it to LV's board. That was a decision she made. She could've done a thousand things, yet when push came to shove the decision she made was the most spiteful, self-serving one imaginable: redirecting this site to a competing site which has nothing but antipathy towards the operators of this site. Then, on top of that, she directed it to NSFW content.

That was despicable, Spray. Admit it was despicable, or you're a coward. Being loyal to your friends does not mean you cannot call a spade a spade. She took an existing board and entirely by choice dropped it into the shitter, when she could've and should've done nothing of the sort.

She should've never even been involved with any of it. Sucking Perk's dick and getting him to transfer it over to her is how she came to be able to do this, then she did the worst thing possible with it during the short time she had control of it.

Admit it. There is no spinning it. Those are the facts of what happened.

[PSUFAN]

I was redirected to a site with more than questionable material in a semi-public environment with an underage youth I have custody of and numerous other underage and small children around me. This is what I hold Katy and LV in disdain for. The level of embarrassment I felt when it occurred and when I was trying to explain what was going on (while not excatly being sure what exactly was fucking going on) I can't even begin to describe.

^ That has nothing to do with the time of week or being at work or not.

Katy knows that we have folks who trust that we warn them against objectionable material with tags and other means. She though it would be fun to do that to our users. She didn't reason through it and understand that when she took control of the domain and started redirecting the site various places, it was perfectly plain who was behind it and who was making those choices.

[Biggie]

Spray, the redirect was bullshit. You know this. Why are you arguing the point? You seem to have credibility here (for reasons beyond my comprehension). Why would you spend it defending that weak move?

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

The fact that you have a mental guideline of what trolling is and should be is either really fucking strange or fucking insane.

When you attempt to do something, you should really have some sort of idea what it is you're doing. That fact this simple concept seems so foreign to you helps explain why you're a complete failure. You're clueless.

But you're laughing about it, you're telling me you're laughing about it, and posting silly emoticons... so that's all that matters. Correct?

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

sucked shit through a crazy straw.

can't we leave Dio out of this for once?

[Biggie]

Okay - here's what I'll say. I'll call it "an error in judgement". JUST like what KC Scott did, and admitted to.

That's fine. It's hard for your buddies to get to the moral high ground with a shovel, that's all.

ucant is cool, imo. I trolled with him back in the day.

[Goober McTuber]

Guess I'm just a lot more of a hard-ass than some folks.

[Justforoldtime’ssake]You misspelled “lard”.[/Justforoldtime’ssake]

[Cuda]

and the circle is now complete

[Van]

Spray, the redirect was bullshit. You know this. Why are you arguing the point? You seem to have credibility here (for reasons beyond my comprehension). Why would you spend it defending that weak move?

Okay - here's what I'll say. I'll call it "an error in judgement". JUST like what KC Scott did, and admitted to.

Riiiiight! Making a stupid yet obvious joking comment in Chat, one person to another, that's JUST like taking an entire board, shutting it down, then dropping it into LV's shitter.

Yeah, I see the eerie correlation there. It's almost spooky.

Jesus, Spray, I never thought I'd see the day when you of all people couldn't bring yourself to not give a fuck and simply speak the truth. You know that what Katy did was an ugly thing, done out of spite. You know that it went far behind 'getting over' on KC Scott or PSUFAN. You know that she shit on an entire board, the majority of whom had no idea that any of that nonsense was even going on.

Dude, I should've seen this coming. First you rooted for Bama, now this. You've fucking gone off the deep end!

[Cuda]

Blow me, cuntface


nothing personal, I just haven't used that in a while

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

ucant is cool, imo. I trolled with him back in the day.

Dude. You can totally take my seat and stuff. Sit, sit...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

ucant is cool

Yeah, but that's still a no - right?

[Diogenes]

can't we leave Dio out of this for once?

Some of these ankle biters? No.

I actually was going to try to stay out of this but some of you fuckers want to insist everything is entirely the fault of one party or parties, that there was not so much as a misjudgment by 'your guys'. And at the same time Cannot Let It Go. Based on what I've read there was a lot of childish bullshit, unacceptable behavior, overreactions and just plain dumbfuckerry coming from a lot of folks here and elsewhere. Most of who either won't admit they did anything out of bounds (or just stupid) or claim "he/she/they deserved it".

This was already tedious. Let me know when it's history.

Or not.

[PSUFAN]

Spray, Katy seems to be arguing something about domain ownership. There's nothing really to debate there.

It's really this simple:

Otis owned the domain.

Otis told me he couldn't pay to renew it, and that I had to do so.

Otis gave me his godaddy account login (I guess he trusted me more that I should have trusted him).

I logged in and paid for a year of the domain. I didn't own the domain - but I had paid for it.

Otis told me that he'd "Western Union" me the $20.

A few days later I began the process of transferring ownership of the domain. I used his godaddy login and unlocked the domain - a transfer requires that it be unlocked and active.

Otis changed the login credentials at some point thereafter.

Otis changed the nameservers on the domain.

Otis resigned from the admin group.

Otis was approached about restoring the nameservers and offered discussion on the topic of what might be bothering him. He communicated to us through his girlfriend.

Katy began relaying demands to us. We refused to negotiate.

Otis transferred the domain to Katy.

Katy pretended to have saved us from doom.

She gave us her godaddy login. She told me I could change the password on the account - I didn't do so.

I logged in and restored the nameservers.

Katy logged back in and changed them again - and changed the login.

Katy told us she didn't know what the problem was with the login.

Katy dropped the pretense of cooperation and started issuing demands again.

At some point here, Katy began redirecting the domain to LV's site, to Mag7, to a site with a bouncing dick, not sure what all.

T1B users were redirected - with no advance warning - to wherever she wanted.

At some point, Katy must have done a WHOIS search on the domain and seen that her contact information was there, clear as day. So basically, all of the redirecting was happening on her watch, with 'her" domain - easily documented. Also, whatever freak knew about this and was lurking at any of the boards had direct and clear access to her contact information. Unfortunately, that part was/is completely out of our hands. katy seems to be accusing us of using her info, but the fact is, we did not. Did someone else on the boards do that? Search me - I have no idea. The truth is, Katy's choice to take ownership of the domain exposed her personal info - and she just didn't understand that part of it at first.

The admin group was happy, after the initial nameserver change, to drop the T1B domain entirely and go in a new direction.

Katy knew she had to dump "ownership" of the domain, so she posted somewhere that anyone could have it.

Tom took it. Tom did so to help end this saga.

All of the above is fact.

There is no argument about who owned the domain. There's really no argument whatsoever on any of it. Frankly, we'e having this conversation, Spray, because you have been a good contributor here of late. To someone like Biggie who hasn't been around much of late it must be mind-boggling that you're accorded any consideration at all here, given your history. We have let the past be the past, because you have been fairly solid here of late. But, given this drama, you have chosen to stir the pot.

There's nothing to argue at all, really. I am happy to lay out the facts. I am not going to get into debates of the sort you posted above - there's no need to do so.

[Van]

I can't believe we've had a Biggie sighting here. One of the goddamn mugs from Mt. Rushmore just spoke!

What's next, a PET from Moorese about his weekend in Aruba with Katy, when they snorkled together and he stuffed a bellhop's oversized cranium betwist her splayed open tenderflanks as a means of offering the wobbly little guy a proper tip? Will we now see Euro going off on Canadian Trolls and their horrible taste in taste?

Good fucking times.

[PSUFAN]

Perk is obviously smarter than Katy,... she's the one packing up her kids and moving to Canada where he can fuck her and get head

He'll have to tear her away from the computer first - or cut a hole in her chair - or...hell he's got a lot of spatial challenges to overcome no matter what he does. What does she have on him...75? 100 lbs?

And the old Spray would have laughed at that ^ - you all know this to be true.

[Biggie]

I'm not going to be the middle man anymore.

Yeah, you're more of an aisle guy.

[Goober McTuber]

as a place like TTP is completely free

At free, it's over-priced.

[Van]

Spray, I've gone off on Shrubber more times than I care to remember. Ask him. He'll tell you.

I simply told you to ignore the guy in Chat, and to not let him run you out of there. When he went on his bizarre USC rant with me, I did exactly what I told you to do with him: I ignored him. That's what I told you I was doing, and that's precisely what I did.

Also, go ahead and ask Indy if I've gone off on him, quite recently, and in no uncertain terms.

Dude, you couldn't be barking up more of a wrong tree. In any case, now that you're completely losing your mind and displaying all the stand-up class of Michael Vick, whatever. Two-faced drama whores are a dime a dozen.

[PSUFAN]

Well, the truth is, it's important to us to preserve the board. We pay for it and maintain it - because we want to, that's all.

There's nothing to discuss with Katy and Otis. We're happy to make a clean break from them. I have posted some of the above facts at Mag7 because I wanted to warn them, and to make them aware of the situation. I think enough has been posted on the topic, but since you needed some clarification, consider it clarified.

I don't really care if this is being portrayed differently elsewhere. Anyone who wants to take in the facts of the situation can do so here.

Now - are Otis and Katy going to take some smack here...and elsewhere? You bet your stomachs they will, Buttsy. I am concerned about how their relationship will go - when Katy tells him in her Dennis Hopper voice to shoot the money already, will he tell her that it'll take a week to transfer, or that he's Western Union'ing it to her Monday? There are many, many possibilities for the funnay here...so thank them honestly on my behalf.

[Biggie]

Biggie-

Why not tell everybody why you and some of the others left this place a while back?

None of your business.

But no hard feelings on either side as far as I am aware - certainly none on my end.

At Mag7 some time back, I wrote:

T1B doesn't give a shit whether somebody posts here or there or both or neither. The mainstays of T1B view this board's content as 3rd grade nonsense. They prefer substantive discussions and arguments about politics and other issues of the day. Their sports forums are top-notch if you'd rather debate the merits of a 3-4 scheme than call Anquan Boldin a faggot.

Good posters and good guys there. Just different strokes.

That's sort of how I feel about it.

[KC Scott]

Spray - if you're going to play the personnal info card, then how can you not comment on Katy sending pics of Dio, SG, Russ, Chyna, etc. to me (and I'm sure others) right off of her Facebook page?

Dude - c'mon. You've been a pretty stand up guy here since your return.

[PSUFAN]

I certainly harbor no hard feelings about Biggie - or the choices that he or others make about where they want to post. People should post wherever they want. I agree with Biggie's description of the difference between the boards, from what I've seen. Heck, I think I'll be checking out .net a little more as well, now that I know the Drama Troika is banned from there.

[smackaholic]

'spray, you still gonna spin records?

hope so.

[Smackie Chan]

the only thing it looks like I will have gained from trying to get everybody to work it out - will be that everybody is pissed off at me.

Why do you think I've stayed out of this mountain of horse shit?

Reconsider my offer.

[JMak]

I was wondering this whole time why you thought these were reconciliable differences between the fuck-up triplets and PSU and others here...were you angling for Katy and LV's return? WTF, dawg?

[PSUFAN]

One last time - I'm gonna let Perk take it from here

Well, that's big* of you. Save us all a little time next time, will ya?











*you got that

[Smackie Chan]

'spray, you still gonna spin records?

hope so.

No. Not now, anyway. Why? First of all - seeing Shrubber come in there makes me want to vomit. It creates a tension-filled situation EVERY time he comes in there. Secondly, I consider that a time to completely CZ out, and if I were to do it right now, somebody would start running their mouths about this shit, and I just don't want to hear it - certainly not in an application like that. Plus - that's not fair to other folks who come in there to kick back.

But there's a new sheriff in town who'll do what he can to make the place as comfortable as a bean bag chair in a black-lit lava-lamp basement.

[Tom In VA]

the only thing it looks like I will have gained from trying to get everybody to work it out - will be that everybody is pissed off at me.

Nah, I'm not pissed at you, Katy, Otis, LV, PSUFAN, 88, Mgo, IndyFrisco, KC Scott, or anyone in particular.

Honestly this is simply just a flare up of the old message board hemmorhoids. A little "transition" drama. That I wouldn't be surprised was partly a troll job that just got a little out of hand.

There are some mysteries at hand. I don't believe either side 100%, I don't want to know, don't care to know, and am not taking sides.

I offered to assist for selfish reasons too, I enjoy this board and would like to see it continue. That's one of the reasons I got involved as much as ... it gets out of hand when a bunch of grown men even intimate at going after a 5'0" tall mother of children.

So, here I am. And if we don't all chill out and relax a little bit I might consider donating this "thing" I have with my name attached to

The true One






Where is the love folks ?

[M Club]

if the families you neglect so often just to post ad nauseam on this board ever read through these threads, they'd check you into rehab. fucking wow.

[Tom In VA]

I don't want any of you to think I'm some sort of nice son of a bitch, or some pussy shit like that.

Never mistake kindness for weakness.