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Moving Sale wrote:

Dinsdale wrote: anyone who is opposed to bloated government and its runaway spending is immediately branded as someone who hates teachers, cops, and firefighters (the latter two have their own unions and pension plans anyway).

Could be truthful just ONCE. Is that really too much to ask?

I believe he once said you were dumber than a pile of dog shit. Seems pretty much truthful to me.

Derron wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:

Dinsdale wrote: anyone who is opposed to bloated government and its runaway spending is immediately branded as someone who hates teachers, cops, and firefighters (the latter two have their own unions and pension plans anyway).

Could be truthful just ONCE. Is that really too much to ask?

I believe he once said you were dumber than a pile of dog shit. Seems pretty much truthful to me.

Didn't read his post until you quoted it -- "Ignore" feature will do that.


But didn't you hear -- He moved out of Lilliput and took up residence in Oregon, so he knows a lot more about Oregon politics than you or I.

IndyFrisco wrote:[quote="H4ever]

Tariffs on any good produced abroad and then shipped back in for sale. Prett simple really. Fuck the dollar stores. Buy American....because it WILL be cheaper.

I'm 100% ok with that. Don't mind paying more for goods as long as my dollars aren't being used to subsidize poor motherfuckers who do nothing to better themselves.[/quote][/quote]


Damn straight. If the tariffs were steep enough it would make more fiscal sense to produce and manufacture at home, there would be new jobs available everywhere. The next step would be to step up illegal immigration enforcement. That begins in the corporate office where jail time is hung over the head of all CEO's and their human resource execs for hiring any illegal, cheap labor.

That would create competition for labor and wages and benefits would have to be increased in all these new jobs suddenly available across America. You then shut off the nanny state teat which would pretty much force lazy unmotivated fucks to man these jobs. If they still refuse to work, even with increased wages and benefits.....shoot them in the face.

H4ever wrote: That would create competition for labor and wages and benefits would have to be increased in all these new jobs suddenly available across America. You then shut off the nanny state teat which would pretty much force lazy unmotivated fucks to man these jobs. If they still refuse to work, even with increased wages and benefits.....shoot them in the face.

Please...that computer thing in front of you...

...yeah...

...stop tapping on it.


TIA

H4ever wrote:If the tariffs were steep enough it would make more fiscal sense to produce and manufacture at home.

That's a rather simplistic approach to a complex issue. If the U.S. raises tariffs, so does every other country affected in retaliation, thus costing jobs. Current jobs, not some pie in the sky job that was lost 20-30 years ago to better competition.

Believe it or not, the U.S.A still exports a shitload of goods which support a shitload of jobs, mine included.

War Wagon wrote:

H4ever wrote:If the tariffs were steep enough it would make more fiscal sense to produce and manufacture at home.

That's a rather simplistic approach to a complex issue. If the U.S. raises tariffs, so does every other country affected in retaliation, thus costing jobs. Current jobs, not some pie in the sky job that was lost 20-30 years ago to better competition.

Believe it or not, the U.S.A still exports a shitload of goods which support a shitload of jobs, mine included.

I can appreciate that but in this economic climate if 15 jobs were created at the expense of yours.....WGARA about your job? If you consider the trade deficit, it begins to make even more sense. Tariffs + shipping costs = more fiscal sense to produce at home? Sounds like a no brainer to me.

As an added bonus: China returns to the dark ages and implodes as per usual with subsistance farmers duking it out over pigs and chickens. Sounds better than a billion chinks holding the keys to your grandchildren's future doesn't it? Not to mention how we're financing their military. Fuck 'em....I like the poster's idea to tell them to jam our debt up their ass sideways in parallel with their slant eyes.

Martyred wrote:

H4ever wrote: That would create competition for labor and wages and benefits would have to be increased in all these new jobs suddenly available across America. You then shut off the nanny state teat which would pretty much force lazy unmotivated fucks to man these jobs. If they still refuse to work, even with increased wages and benefits.....shoot them in the face.

Please...that computer thing in front of you...

...yeah...

...stop tapping on it.


TIA

Yea? Why don't you resume double-fisting your shit chute and lay off the keyboard for a day or sixty? The entire board thanks you in advance.

H4ever wrote:

Martyred wrote:

H4ever wrote: That would create competition for labor and wages and benefits would have to be increased in all these new jobs suddenly available across America. You then shut off the nanny state teat which would pretty much force lazy unmotivated fucks to man these jobs. If they still refuse to work, even with increased wages and benefits.....shoot them in the face.

Please...that computer thing in front of you...

...yeah...

...stop tapping on it.


TIA

Yea? Why don't you resume double-fisting your shit chute and lay off the keyboard for a day or sixty? The entire board thanks you in advance.

You hardly speak for the entire board. A genuinely funny poster versus a slack-jawed hayseed? I'll take Marty any day of the week.

88 wrote:
Another factor is where we live. We live in greater Cleveland. This has been a one-party town for decades.

Hi, I'm Ralph Locher, republican mayor of Cleveland in the 1960's...


And I'm George Voinovich, another republican mayor in the 70's...(psst..don't believe the weasally SS)


And now let's hear from Dennis Kucinich on how those unelected GOP power operatives conducted business in the early 1970's...

"One of America’s largest banks, Cleveland Trust, led local banks in demanding immediate payment from the city by midnight, December 15th, of $14.5 million in short-term loans. Now, having fought through a thicket of consequence to become America’s youngest mayor, elected on a promise to stop the privatization of the city’s electric system, I was faced with paying off loans taken out by the previous mayor, for the financing of municipal projects of dubious value.

The banks refused to extend terms of payment and connived with city council members to block alternative payment plans, such as the sale of city land or tax revenues. The banks knew the city couldn’t otherwise pay. They demanded instead the sale of the city’s electric system, Muny Light, to an investor-owned electric company, the Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company (CEI). The president of the Cleveland Council, George Forbes, had met with the head of Cleveland Trust bank who insisted the sale of Muny Light as a precondition for extending the city credit. This was a case of the bank blackmailing the city, pure and simple.

I was out of major public office for almost fifteen years until, in 1993, Cleveland announced an expansion of Muny Light (now called Cleveland Public Power). At that time, the city council and others decided that I had made the right decision in refusing to sell Muny Light. The city and its residents had saved hundreds of millions of dollars through Muny Light’s reduced electric rates and the savings the taxpayers enjoyed from Muny’s lower cost power for street lighting and city buildings."


And of course Brock Weir and his banking cabal went down the toilet with all the other fraudulent debt-based banking frauds ('cept those bailed out at public expense :wink: )

And this is just one clear example of how the privatizing interests are merely greedy thieving shysters--then and now.

Now stop your libertarian piddling and clean up, you've messed yourself again.

weak-ass politicians. gotta have those businesses on your side. gotta work every asset.