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http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-kille ... 15957.html


Breivik's lawyer says he's likely insane.

Ya think?

poptart wrote:Breivik's lawyer says he's likely insane.

Ya think?

I think it's abundantly clear to anyone who isn't running around in circles flapping his pussy lips that atrocities have been committed by perfectly sane men throughout recorded history. Your precious Bible is chock full of them.

33And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.

34And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain

--Deuteronomy 2:33-34

6And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.

--Deuteronomy 3:6

Think of all the money he saved on abortions.

mvscal wrote:atrocities have been committed by perfectly sane men throughout recorded history

No doubt.

Breivik's lawyer, however, seems to think this isn't one of the sane men.

I'm just noting it.

And so far you are about the only person I have seen who is cheering this nutcase's actions.

We're all insane and you're perfectly dialed in - yep.


Btw, if actions are justifiable and good, and they are committed by a sane man, why do you use the word atrocity?

poptart wrote:

mvscal wrote:atrocities have been committed by perfectly sane men throughout recorded history

No doubt.

Breivik's lawyer, however, seems to think this isn't one of the sane men.

I'm just noting it.

Well of course he would. That's what defense lawyers do.

Btw, if actions are justifiable and good, and they are committed by a sane man, why do you use the word atrocity?

Sometimes some very ugly means are used to a justifiable and good end. It isn't pretty. It's just the way it is.

poptart wrote:Breivik's lawyer, however, seems to think this isn't one of the sane men.

I wonder why he's even bothering. Unless Norway's nuthouses are even more plush than their "prisons."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _super_max

Of course mvskkkal thinks it is ok to shoot people in the head because of their political beliefs. It is all a part of his self loathing. He hates himself so much he thinks it is ok for someone to kill him or his equally worthless family.

If what happened in Norway was ok then why isn't it ok to kill a warmonger like mvskkkal or his equally narrow minded daughter? It’s the same reason Glenn Beck is lockstep with mvskkkal on this subject. Grow some self of steam you pathetic racist fucks.

Moving Sale wrote:self of steam

Excuse me...waiter...face palm smilie over here!

Carson wrote:

Moving Sale wrote:self of steam

Excuse me...waiter...face palm smilie over here!

It's an old reference. I'm surprised you don't know it.

I missed that episode.

Can I help it if I'm convinced Movement Fail is a dolt?

so how many of you socialist faggots own a Che Guevera shirt? he killed like tens of thousands and enjoyed it to spread socialism, i.e. his political agenda.

:?

Carson wrote:I missed that episode.

Can I help it if I'm convinced Movement Fail is a dolt?

Nope, virtually impossible task.

The more I ponder this, the more I think dude is a hero.


War is ugly.

The socialists declared war on freedom.


Sorry if I grew up in the "get under your desk to practice for the nuclear strike" days of Raygun's Cold War, but the one good thing that did come out of that time was the hatred of socialism.

Those (mostly) young adults grew up entitled. They grew up wealthy, the spawn of political leaders who were wealthy.

Wait... in a socialist state, isn't everyone supposed to be equal?

But while the serfs were toiling to pay the country's bills, these Privileged Ones were living it up, waiting in the wings to assume control of the wealth that others worked to build.


Sorry... but the only system that has EVER worked in all of Human History is Freedom...

And ours is eroding. Stand up for yourselves, pussies.

Pull that lever for Ron Paul.

titlover wrote:so how many of you socialist faggots own a Che Guevera shirt? he killed like tens of thousands and enjoyed it to spread socialism, i.e. his political agenda.

:?

Well, Mr. Titlover.. one involves an economic and socio-political world view and method of socio-economic inquiry, that centres upon a materialist interpretation of history, a dialectical view of social change and an analysis and critique of the development of capitalism.
As opposed to a guy posting Heavy Metal style pics of musclebound crusaders on the net and killing teenagers.

I hear the best and brightest just got offed there, get yourself over and fill the void.

Mr T wrote:

poptart wrote:Because we all know, of course, that murdering innocent people is one thing that Christians are fundamentally instructed to do.

Christianity has a long history of violence

bad people have a long history of violence, dummy.

Dr_Phibes wrote:

titlover wrote:so how many of you socialist faggots own a Che Guevera shirt? he killed like tens of thousands and enjoyed it to spread socialism, i.e. his political agenda.

:?

Well, Mr. Titlover.. one involves an economic and socio-political world view and method of socio-economic inquiry, that centres upon a materialist interpretation of history, a dialectical view of social change and an analysis and critique of the development of capitalism.
As opposed to a guy posting Heavy Metal style pics of musclebound crusaders on the net and killing teenagers.

I hear the best and brightest just got offed there, get yourself over and fill the void.

For such a smart guy, you're awfully dumb.

Socialism = Enslavement

Unless you'd care to cite an example to the contrary?

Yeah, thought you couldn't.

You go ajead and idolize Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao, and those folks... I'll keep opn enjoying the meager fruits of my labor.


BTW -- I've pretty much always been borderline poor (certainly no better than lower-middle class, never starving). And I have a GREAT fucking time spending the dough I make doing the things I enjoy. Everyone should be so lucky to have led a life as full as mine has been... but I don't judge what constitutes "full" to anyone else.

And it boggles my mind why anyone would have a problem with that.

Some people enjoy working 30 hours a week, then playing golf and fishing. Some people enjoy working a bunch, making a bunch of money, and living in a mansion. Who the fuck are you to tell them otherwise?

But this isn't a political arguement. The people who were shot would be bourgeois liberals, Marx and Lenin called for their political annihilation (and things do get messy).

Politically ( as far as Beowulf was concerned) the Marxists and the Capitalists have formed a secret alliance with the Feminists to flood the Nordic countries with Muslims. By killing teenagers (future overlords), Blurgblech the musclebound would inspire a revolution of the Nordic people to glue antlers on their head, pick up their swords and smote the watchawhosemass which ends up with him in the jug.

He's got Enya music on his You-Tube videos.

Am I the only person seeing the problem here?

Horseshit.

Props on the fancy words, but those were the future Seizers-Of-All-Wealth.

While he had his beef with the Muslim inundation (wise of him)at the core, you have a socialist belief system. Socialsm is a neat way to have the masses toil to enrich a few.

While the USA is quite rapidly going this route, there's options. Norway was quickly removing those options.

Go ahead and name a siciety in human history that prefered to be in the bonds of enriching someone else over freedom... take your time.

Sorry, the Global Socialist Greedmongers must die... it's the only cure for this rapidly spreading disease.


I'll make my own way just fine, thanks. And if I can't, I'll ask my circle for help. It's worked for thousands of years, it will work for thousands more. The socialist scenario has never worked for more than 75 years, and when it has lasted that long, it's only been at the point of a gun.

When your "system of government" involves threatening your own people with death, it might be oppressive. When you have to make heavily enforced laws to keep people from leaving (the USA has never had), there might be a problem.

Sorry, but socialism is fatally flawed, always has been, and anyone with any intellectual honesty beyond their own poverty/angst/malcontented greed can see it as plain as the nose on their face.


RACK the Bevicmeister. Might aswell take them out young, before they can inflict more suffering and oppression.

While those children of politicians were living it up, the other 18-21 year olds were working to pay for the Elites' vacation. How the fuck long did they think that deal was going to last?

Shame on their parents for sacrificing their children to their own greed.

Dinsdale wrote:The more I ponder this, the more I think dude is a hero.

My recommendation is that you do a lot less pondering, then.


Waiting for the full release of names and ages of the victims, but of the 13 more names which were released today, ten were teens.



Mowing down unarmed teens out on an island is heroic?

I've got a different word for it.

CH_CK_NSH_T

Select a vowel.


Breivik's lawyer says he was on dope.

You, too?



GO RON PAUL!!!!!1!

Dinsdale wrote:War is ugly.

If this happened during a war, it is a war crime.




Shake yourself?

poptart wrote:Mowing down unarmed teens toxic parasites out on an island is heroic?

Maybe not "heroic" but certainly a useful service to the greater good of the community nevertheless.

poptart wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:War is ugly.

If this happened during a war, it is a war crime.

Who knew?

Sincerely,

Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc. etc.

To be perfectly blunt, the only "war crime" is losing.

mvscal wrote: Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc. etc.

To be perfectly blunt, the only "war crime" is losing.

Exactly.

What the US and Britian did in Dresden was straight nasty. What the US did in Tokyo was insane, vindictive, and effective, more fuelling a bloodlust than strategic. Yet people defend those actions today, and American homers talk about "all the lives" the A-bombs "saved."

But think of how many innocents would have been spared had someone had the foresight to nip the problem in the bud before the massive conflicts started to begin with?


Ah my foes, and oh my friends, this is the next battlefield. There's some evil forces at work right now. You may think I'm trolling, or you may thinks I'm nuts... either way, in a few years, you'll know I was right.

The Global Socialist Movement is real, and it's evil.


Live and let live... not their deal.

poptart wrote:of the 13 more names which were released today, ten were teens.

How many US Troops mowing down Muslims are "teens"?

The more I read about this "camp," the more I feel for the people of Norway.

Dinsdale wrote:You may think I'm trolling, or you may thinks I'm nuts...

I just think you're loaded.

See you in the morning.

poptart wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:You may think I'm trolling, or you may thinks I'm nuts...

I just think you're loaded.

After reading the Theology Forum, I felt you were stating logical fallacies.

Now, you're doing it in CDS.

"Trolling," "nuts," and "loaded," are not mutally exclusive.

I believe you're guilty of cum hoc ergo propter hoc.

Well, maybe you are, and maybe you aren't. Eitherway, I'm all super-smart for remembering some Latin fancy-schmancy words, and almost applying them in context.

Dins, politically, I'm right there with you.
I share your deep concerns, trust me.

The problem (extreme problem) is that by jocking this coward you have crossed a critical line.


--- TERRORISM ---


You stand in support.

... as long as you like the cause.

Yet you condemn others who use the method, even though TO THEM, they are as justified as you think this guy was.


I am sure you don't support abortion clinic bombers.

Yet to the bomber, his action is COMPLETELY justified, because 'the state' is allowing the most grotesque oppression of the most innocent among us, and the doctors and clinic workers are supporting this grotesque oppression.


This Breivik 'tard pussed out big time.

If he was a hero, he would have done something heroic.

Slaughtering a group of teens on an island isn't it.

poptart wrote:--- TERRORISM ---


You stand in support.

... as long as you like the cause.

Yep. Sure do. It's a tactic not an ideology. You're confused but, then again, you aren't very bright either. You can't be. You believe in fairy tales.

mvscal wrote:you aren't very bright either

I'm bright enough to know that a madman's mass slaughter of INNOCENT teenagers is nothing to cheer about.

I can pass Dinsale's over-zealous takes off as resulting from one-too-many pops, but... you?

I'm afraid you're quite ill.

Those who win wars are the "victors," those who lose are "terrorists."

Was firebombing Tokyo "terrorism"?

KC Scott wrote:

Dinsdale wrote: BTW -- I've pretty much always been borderline poor

I'm always fascinated at how some wear the Loser tag as a badge of honor

You've got a lot to learn about humility.

You, of all people...

KC Scott wrote:That would imply I'm bragging, which like many of your other fantasies about me, is not reality

There's nothing to debate you with here. Your reputation precedes you by light years.

Trust me, the court of public opinion has already passed verdict on your douchey-ness.

poptart wrote:INNOCENT teenagers is nothing to cheer about.

They weren't innocent. They were part of the problem.

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr ... tler_Youth

Embrace him MV.

mvscal wrote:
Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc. etc.

They're terrorist acts inasmuch as they involve the violent coercion. Those conditions don't exist here, he wasn't trying to bend the will of his perceived enemies, he was trying to serve as an inspiration. It's apples and oranges

'ooo, look what he did. What a great idea, lets all copy him'

Bucmonkey wrote:http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr ... tler_Youth

Embrace him MV.

He's absolutely right, of course. Or are you going to pretend that political indoctrination was not the purpose of this "youth camp"?

Dr_Phibes wrote:

mvscal wrote:
Dresden, Hamburg, Berlin, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc. etc.

They're terrorist acts inasmuch as they involve the violent coercion. Those conditions don't exist here, he wasn't trying to bend the will of his perceived enemies,

He was trying to kill them...and he did.

lets all copy him'

Think he'll be the last?

Dr_Phibes wrote:

titlover wrote:so how many of you socialist faggots own a Che Guevera shirt? he killed like tens of thousands and enjoyed it to spread socialism, i.e. his political agenda.

:?

Well, Mr. Titlover.. one involves an economic and socio-political world view and method of socio-economic inquiry, that centres upon a materialist interpretation of history, a dialectical view of social change and an analysis and critique of the development of capitalism.
As opposed to a guy posting Heavy Metal style pics of musclebound crusaders on the net and killing teenagers.

I hear the best and brightest just got offed there, get yourself over and fill the void.

ya, so Che = doing it for the right reasons. lulz.

mvscal wrote:
Think he'll be the last?

There'll never be an end to fantasist morons doing stupid things in a vacuum and spending the rest of their lives in jail. Everyone he shot will be replaced with someone else, unlikely, but best case scenario for him is someday Norway might have leaders a little less bright. Brilliant.

If he wasn't a self obsessed nutter, I'd recommend he attach himself to some form of coherent ideology and approach things rationally, rather than his own dog's breakfast, he probably wouldn't be tripping over his own shoes then.

titlover wrote: ya, so Che = doing it for the right reasons. lulz.

I must have missed the part about Che gunning down unarmed teens.
Hook me up with a link, bro.