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Bizzarofelice wrote: all i hear is talk about JoePa. is he the only person who screwed up here?

War Wagon wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote: all i hear is talk about JoePa. is he the only person who screwed up here?

of course not, but he's the most visible face of the university and the one to take the biggest fall.

Bizzarofelice wrote:1) this is a huge overreaction. detectives and police did nothing. higher ups who handle this shit did nothing.

2) watching the Big Ten network and they are getting lots of ex penn state players and they're all somber. kinda like memphis after elvis died.

War Wagon wrote:he could be charged as an accessory to rape.

bradhusker wrote:HOWEVER, when Elvis died, in that awful hot summer of 1977,

PSUFAN wrote:I think the BOT ended up handling this very well...as well as they could have. No way in hell Paterno could stay even one more game amidst this shitstorm.

Now the direction of the football program can be righted, and the investigation and pursuit of justice can proceed independent of that.

mvscal wrote:

bradhusker wrote:HOWEVER, when Elvis died, in that awful hot summer of 1977,

That was the same year that Sandusky founded his pedo grooming charity, Second Mile. Coincidence?!?

Degenerate wrote:This is the worst nosedive by a head football coach since Knute Rockne.

War Wagon wrote:If they have a shred of dignity left, PSU should forfeit all of it's remaining games.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:

War Wagon wrote:If they have a shred of dignity left, PSU should forfeit all of it's remaining games.

Why? Paterno's already out, so that doesn't impact him. People who suffer the most from that are the players, not to mention the local economy, restaurants, businesses, etc. None of them deserve to suffer because of what Sandusky did 9 years ago. What needs to happen is happening. Joe Pa is out, the AD is gone, the president is gone, and Sandusky will be in prison. Now McQueary just needs to go.

Shoalzie wrote:Nice first year for the revamped B1G...Tattoo U and Pedophilia State. All they need now is a Baylor-like murder cover up and a good old fashioned point-shaving scandal...that'll complete the grand slam of shame. Why do we like college football again?

Sudden Sam wrote:

Killian wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-sa ... rs-2011-11

Holy fucking shit.

Posted: Sunday, April 3, 2011 11:55 pm | Updated: 4:34 pm, Mon Apr 4, 2011.
Mark Madden | 13 comments
The Jerry Sandusky situation seems a matter of failure to connect certain dots, or perhaps unwillingness in that regard. Lots of people besides the former Penn State defensive coordinator have some explaining to do.
Allegations of improper conduct with an underage male first surfaced in 1998, while Sandusky was still employed by Penn State. That incident allegedly occurred in a shower at Penn State's on-campus football facility. No charges were filed.
Sandusky retired the next year, in 1999. He was 55, prime age for a coach. Odd, to say the least - especially with Joe Paterno thought even then to be ready to quit and Sandusky a likely, openly-discussed successor.
It seems logical to ask: What did Paterno know, and when did he know it? What did Penn State's administration know, and when did they know it?
Best-case scenario: Charges are never brought, and Sandusky walks away with his reputation permanently scarred. The rumors, the jokes, the sideways glances - they won't ever stop. Paterno and Penn State do the great escape.
Worst-case scenario: Sandusky is charged. Then it seems reasonable to wonder: Did Penn State not make an issue of Sandusky's alleged behavior in 1998 in exchange for him walking away from the program at an age premature for most coaches? Did Penn State's considerable influence help get Sandusky off the hook?
Don't kid yourself. That could happen. Don't underestimate the power of Paterno and Penn State in central Pennsylvania when it comes to politicians, the police and the media.
In 1999, Penn State was rid of Sandusky. His rep was unblemished, which allowed him to continue running a charitable foundation that gave him access to underage males. To be a volunteer assistant with a high school football team, thus gaining access to underage males.
If Paterno and Penn State knew, but didn't act, instead facilitating Sandusky's untroubled retirement - are Paterno and Penn State responsible for untoward acts since committed by Sandusky?
This is far from an outrageous hypothesis, especially given the convenient timeline.
Initially accused in 1998. Retires in 1999. Never coaches college football again. Sandusky was very successful at what he did. The architect of Linebacker U. Helped win national championships in 1982 and 1986. Recognized as college football's top assistant in 1986 and 1999.
Never any stories about Sandusky being pursued for a high-profile job. Never any rumors about him coming out of retirement.
But there's no shortage of stories and rumors about Penn State football sweeping problems under the rug, is there?
Why did college football let an accomplished coach like Sandusky walk away at 55? Why did he disappear into relative anonymity?
A grand jury, spurred by a complaint made by a 15-year-old boy in 2009, has been investigating Sandusky for 18 months. Witnesses include Paterno and Penn State athletic director Tim Curley. Interviewing Paterno about a subject like this had to have been one of the single most uncomfortable acts in the history of jurisprudence.
Plenty of questions remain yet unanswered. Potentially among them: What's more important, Penn State football or the welfare of a few kids?
You might not want to hear the answer.
Mark Madden hosts a radio show 3-6 p.m. weekdays on WXDX-FM (105.9

MuchoBulls wrote:Apparently McQueary will be coaching in the game this weekend.

What a crock of shit.

Felix wrote:"This is some fucked-up repugnant shit."

jules

jiminphilly wrote:Without knowing much about the law, I'm wondering if PSU has their hands tied with McQueary under PA whistle-blower laws.

jiminphilly wrote:Without knowing much about the law, I'm wondering if PSU has their hands tied with McQueary under PA whistle-blower laws.

Van wrote:

jiminphilly wrote:Without knowing much about the law, I'm wondering if PSU has their hands tied with McQueary under PA whistle-blower laws.

Good point, but wouldn't that also apply to Joe Ped? He contacted his superiors, same as McQueary. Why must he get the axe for not doing enough while McQueary walks away unscathed?

bradhusker wrote:QUESTION, if we can demonize Joe Paterno so fast, and we should, WHY do people like Dr. Martin Luther King get a free pass???

Jackie Kennedy's tape recordings came out a few weeks back, and on them, she talks about stuff I have known for decades now.

She is openly appalled and disgusted by the behaviour of Dr King. His cocaine use, and his using of whores and prostitutes. Not only immoral, because he is a minister and a husband, BUT, last I checked, drugs and prostitution are both illegal.

So it begs the question, why does he get a pass, and Joe Pa doesnt?

Does the liberal mainstream media have anything to do with this?

Van wrote: Joe Ped would've retired free of scandal...