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Felix wrote:Why didn't any of his predecessors fix it?

Why is it suddenly his fault that fraud and waste that have run rampant ever since the program was instituted?

mvscal wrote:
I know this is difficult for a colossal moron such as yourself to grasp but what Ofuckup's predecessors did or didn't do doesn't have jackmotherfuckingshit to do with what he has or has not done.

Probably because funding for his idiotic healthcare scam is largely predicated on eliminating fraud and waste. So, how is that coming along?

Felix wrote:

Derron wrote: You dense prattling babbling liberal..read much where I said " both" parties ?

oh I guess it was the fact that you invoked Obama's name within the first two sentences begging why didn't he fix it" that threw me

LTS TRN 2 wrote:During his 13 years in the House, Ryan originated two bills that ultimately were enacted into law. One, passed in July 2000, renamed a post office in Ryan's district; the other, passed in December 2008, lowered the excise tax on arrow shafts.[/b]

LTS TRN 2 wrote:During his 13 years in the House, Ryan originated two bills that ultimately were enacted into law.

Romney steps away from Paul Ryan's Medicare cuts

COLUMBUS, Ohio – Mitt Romney on Wednesday unequivocally disavowed more than $700 billion in Medicare spending cuts proposed by his new running mate, Rep. Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin.

In an interview on “CBS This Morning,” Romney was asked how he squared his running mate’s plan to cut spending on the popular healthcare program for the elderly with his criticism of President Obama for making the same reductions.

The exchange underscored the political challenge that Romney faces in explaining his standing on Medicare after putting Ryan on the Republican ticket.

President Obama and other Democrats have accused Ryan of trying to “end Medicare as we know it” by proposing a system of vouchers for future seniors to buy health insurance in the private market as an alternative to the program as it now stands. Democrats say the elderly would wind up paying more for less.

Ryan’s plan to revamp Medicare – which included Obama’s $716 billion in cuts to the projected growth of Medicare – was a central feature of a federal budget proposed by the congressman and passed by the Republican-controlled House in April. Romney has said he would sign it as president. The voucher system would begin in 10 years.

In his 59-point economic plan, Romney praised Ryan’s Medicare plan, saying it “makes important strides in the right direction by keeping the system solvent and introducing market-based dynamics.” Romney’s economic plan says the Republican presidential candidate would share Ryan’s objectives on Medicare, but that his own revamping of the program would differ in unspecified ways.

The Ryan Medicare plan has posed a political challenge to House Republicans who are battling Democratic attacks in closely fought races in November. Now that Ryan is on the Republican ticket, it also poses a serious threat to Romney in Florida and other battleground states with large elderly populations.

In an effort to seize the offensive, Romney has started running a television ad slamming Obama for the $716 billion in Medicare spending cuts without mentioning that his running mate proposed the same reductions or that voiding them would blow a giant hole in Republican plans to reduce the deficit.

The Obama cuts, which are aimed at financing some of the president’s healthcare program, reduce reimbursements for hospitals and other care providers, but do not directly affect coverage of care for the elderly.

On Tuesday, Ryan, too, was asked to explain why he and Romney were criticizing Obama for Medicare reductions embraced by Ryan.

“We are the ones who are not raiding Medicare to pay for Obamacare,” Ryan told Fox News anchor Brit Hume.

Ryan appeared to take stands on both sides of the Medicare reductions. While supporting the cuts in his own budget plan, Ryan said he voted against those cuts in the president’s healthcare overhaul.

“I voted repeatedly in Congress to repeal all of Obamacare, including this cut of $716 billion to pay for Obamacare,” Ryan said.

mvscal wrote: Oh...OK. They're going to spend $500 billion dollars less on Medicare but it isn't a cut. Got it.

mvscal wrote:dimmest fucking morons

88 wrote:
It is not compassionate to take money from one person and give it to someone else. That is called theft. And it is immoral.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

88 wrote:
It is not compassionate to take money from one person and give it to someone else. That is called theft. And it is immoral.

so flat tax all around and no subsidies and tolls on every road and put police departments out for the highest bidder?

Bizzarofelice wrote:
so flat tax all around and no subsidies and tolls on every road and put police departments out for the highest bidder?

88 wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:

88 wrote:
It is not compassionate to take money from one person and give it to someone else. That is called theft. And it is immoral.

so flat tax all around and no subsidies and tolls on every road and put police departments out for the highest bidder?

Where did that come from? You didn't do well in school, did you?

Left Seater wrote:No need to toll roads, just stop using the current gas tax for other programs.

I wasn't aware that the Feds funded my local PD.

Truman wrote: I'm fairly sure they discouraged poorly constructed, run-on sentences at Mizzou.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

Left Seater wrote:No need to toll roads, just stop using the current gas tax for other programs.

but the taxes for the military affect all. and those who do not use oil as much shouldn't be paying for the stuggle to keep oil at a stable rate through wars.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

Truman wrote: I'm fairly sure they discouraged poorly constructed, run-on sentences at Mizzou.

1) considering the medium, I tend to write colloquially.

2) turns out what I wrote wasn't actually a run-on sentence.

3) you're trying too hard

Truman wrote: Actually it was

mvscal wrote: My ideal Congressman would do absolutely nothing except vote no on every single piece of legislation that pops up.

Left Seater wrote:

Hell yes a flat tax all around.

No need to toll roads, just stop using the current gas tax for other programs.

I wasn't aware that the Feds funded my local PD.

Truman wrote:No. It reads like a retard wrote it.

Bizzarofelice wrote:

Truman wrote:No. It reads like a retard wrote it.

i got a 36 in the english part of the ACT. buoyed my weaker math score. i think it is acceptable.

and nothing is "proven" against me

Truman wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote:

Truman wrote:No. It reads like a retard wrote it.

i got a 36 in the english part of the ACT. buoyed my weaker math score. i think it is acceptable.

and nothing is "proven" against me

Pity

Mikey wrote:They're now starting to release photos of Ryan as a child.

88 wrote:

Felix wrote:since when does caring for the health of a fellow human being equate to communism?
I always thought it fell under "compassion" and "helping your fellow man"
now I come to find out that Medicare and social security are nothing be communist plots.

Both Social Security and Medicare were sold as "insurance" programs, not welfare.

It is not compassionate to take money from one person and give it to someone else. That is called theft. And it is immoral.

If you want to feel compassionate and want to help out your fellow man, no one is stopping you. By all means, dig as deep into your own pocket as you want and hand that cash out to whomever you believe would benefit from it. In fact, why doesn't the Democratic Party start its own DemoCare program, which only registered Democrats can participate in. People who are registered as Democrats can have an extra 15% taken out of their check each week, which would go directly to the Democratic Party, to "invest" in all kinds of great social welfare programs. If it worked well, you could be certain that it would attract others to join the party and the fun. Those who want high taxes and the ability to participate in the programs funded by the high taxes would get their wish. And those who chose not to participate would be on their own to deal with their own problems in their own way. What would be wrong with that sort of approach?

Bizzarofelice wrote:

Truman wrote:No. It reads like a retard wrote it.

i got a 36 in the english part of the ACT. buoyed my weaker math score. i think it is acceptable.

and nothing is "proven" against me

Bizzarofelice wrote: and those who do not use oil as much shouldn't be paying for the stuggle to keep oil at a stable rate through wars.

mvscal wrote:

Bizzarofelice wrote: and those who do not use oil as much shouldn't be paying for the stuggle to keep oil at a stable rate through wars.

The entire economy is based on oil, you mindless dipshit. Everything you do, everything you buy, everywhere you go you need oil.

Left Seater wrote:I wasn't aware that the Feds funded my local PD.

88 wrote:We already have a grossly progressive federal income tax system, where the top 10% of income earners pay 90% of the income taxes, and the bottom 50% of income earners actually pay no income taxes. But if that isn't progressive enough for you, perhaps you ought to lay out the BizzaroFelice Plan and explain how you can morally take care of the needs of many using the labors of few.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:During his 13 years in the House, Ryan originated two bills that ultimately were enacted into law. One, passed in July 2000, renamed a post office in Ryan's district; the other, passed in December 2008, lowered the excise tax on arrow shafts.