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Posted: **Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:58 pm**

LTS, do you not know how those circles are formed? It takes a lot of planning, but it isn't anything complicated. Once you know the area, dimensions and design, the rest is just ropes for outlines, some flattening tool, line of sight calculations, etc. "Supernatural" touches are added by creating swirls or nests by weaving stalks. Melt some iron filings into droplets for traces of "meteorite particles". Stick the stalks together with this for "magnetization".

Patterns can be varied by changing the direction you flatten the corn, by making wavy lines that go up and down each line, which creates "shine" in the patterns. It's all just cheap magicians illusions.

Yeah, it's a shit ton of ton of work but it can be done in a night, even the complicated patterns.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:03 pm**

And you call yourself a troll? This is as half-baked an effort as we've seen since fakeseater rolled out his "evaporating 757" theory in explaining how "flight 77" was just swallowed in the small hole without breaking windows.

Why do you suggest that you know anything about crop circles, let alone how they're made? Your statements so far are absurdly childish and inane.

First, there are no "flattening tools" or ropes used. Are you kidding? The shapes are burned into place--and the tool or whatever remains a total mystery. Second, the notion that a group of people could create one of these in one night--in the dark--is ridiculous. Third, the complexity and intricacy of the shapes is far beyond some art students or graphic designers with time on their hands.

Fourth, the information contained in these is extremely interesting, for example..

This one was not a circle, but a replication of a message that NASA had sent out in a probe many years before.

Fifth, no one has ever been caught or claimed credit for making them.

And what is your fallback position? Some simple nonsense about "ropes and stakes"?

Bad troll! No treat..

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:25 pm**

From an article in "Live Science", published January 13th, 2013-

While there are countless theories, the only known, proven cause of crop circles is humans. Their origin remained a mystery until September 1991, when two men confessed that they had created the patterns for decades as a prank to make people think UFOs had landed (they had been inspired by the 1966 Tully UFO report). They never claimed to have made all the circles — many were copycat pranks done by others — but their hoax launched the crop circle phenomena.

Most crop circle researchers admit that the vast majority of crop circles are created by hoaxers.

All of these examples contain elements in my earlier description.

You really think aliens are causing these very human designs?

This is an art form, like sculpting or weaving, just with a different and very large medium.

There are plenty of sources available to show just how it's done.

Give it up LTS Tard, just like your arguments, you're a joke.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:17 pm**

I noted the fellows who claimed some responsibility. However, these guys remain mysterious--have never been investigated as far as their claims. And moreover, they offered no explanation as to how they supposedly did it.

You state "There are plenty of sources available to show just how it's done."

Really? So...why don't you provide some?

You seem clueless as to how the crops are slightly burned and bent into a permanent--but not damaging--manner to create the sharp lines and designs. In fact, all you're doing is reaching for the easiest and simplest beg-off, and then trying to insist that you've refuted something.

Same with 9/11 and Bin Laden.

Bad troll! No treat.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:43 pm**

Okay dum dum, here you go. According to BLT Research

We have heard many reports over the years about possibly "burned" plants in crop formations. However, in every case where these plants have been sent to BLT for examination our consulting analytical chemist has shown (through FT-IR and EDS) that the blackening was actually caused by Ustilago, an opportunistic fungus which feeds on the internal plant stem moisture which is exposed to air when the stems are crushed or broken
http://www.bltresearch.com/labreports/mission1.php

Now then, they also report non-fungal based burns of course, but again, this is easily faked.

Ask yourself one simple question LTS. Why would aliens go to all that trouble. People would because people love attention. Like you. It is utterly preposterous to attribute this activity to alien intention and design, when all of these designs are decidedly human looking. In addition, microwaves and lasers are now being used to form these circles, thus contributing to such things as burning, heat and magnetism.

Here is a group making a simple circle with just people stomping the wheat.

Andres Amador, a San Francisco artist at work carving a circle.

Do you still insist on humiliating yourself LTS CLOWN?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:49 pm**

Moving Sale wrote:Was there ever a post June 2000 arrest warrant issued in the US for OBL?

NO, but the Pentagon issued one after 911. Signed,sealed , and delivered. Besides, the FBI is a domestic entity and defers any action outside of the borders to the CIA. What a smeg smudge.

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:03 am**

Link?

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:20 am**

Fungus? C'mon

You're the one humiliating yourself.

As to why, well, consider the information often contained in these shapes.

Consider this..
http://cropcirclewisdom.com/crop-circle-diaries.html

Obviously sand drawings are not in the discussion. And as for the pic of the folks standing in the field, there's nothing whatever to suggest that these people had anything to do with the design in the crop.

Moreover, you squirm away from acknowledging that these huge and intricate designs couldn't be created in one night. And yet in each case they have been.

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:24 am**

Jerkovich wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:Was there ever a post June 2000 arrest warrant issued in the US for OBL?
NO, but the Pentagon issued one after 911. Signed,sealed , and delivered. Besides, the FBI is a domestic entity and defers any action outside of the borders to the CIA. What a smeg smudge.

Quite the opposite, Jerk. In fact, not only was no warrant ever issued, but the pentagon actually deleted all of Bin Laden's records after his death. There all now permanently sealed--like the videos of whatever actually hit the pentagon on 9/11.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-CIA.html

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:34 am**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Jerkovich wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:Was there ever a post June 2000 arrest warrant issued in the US for OBL?
NO, but the Pentagon issued one after 911. Signed,sealed , and delivered. Besides, the FBI is a domestic entity and defers any action outside of the borders to the CIA. What a smeg smudge.
Quite the opposite, Jerk. In fact, not only was no warrant ever issued, but the pentagon actually deleted all of Bin Laden's records after his death. There all now permanently sealed--like the videos of whatever actually hit the pentagon on 9/11.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... d-CIA.html

c
Go smoke another blunt hippy.

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:04 am**

Oh, touche! Such wit. Such solid unrepentant retreat. Let us know when you've got something that isn't total bullshit. :wink:

Posted: **Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:12 am**

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Let us know when you've got something that isn't total bullshit. :wink:

You know......stuff like alien crop circles.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:57 am**

So..you're suggesting that this is..some bullshit? When it appears overnight in some farmer's field? No doubt some bullshit prank by (extremely capable) libtards with too much time on their hands--and some anti-corporate bent?

Do you understand--or can you muster the eye to see--why the mainstream media wouldn't report this?

But it happened. It's real. And the crops were subsequently harvested and Bob's yer uncle.

But that leaves the question...what the fuck are you? Really, "R-Jack"...what?.. some malignant toxic punk? Some...nothing clinging and trying desperately to ooze just a bit more bile?. ?

You're fully prepared to vote for Jeb Biush or Scott Walker, aren't you?

Aren't you late for a party rally?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:45 pm**

Aren't you late for rushing to the aid of a lady who saw an image of Elvis in their toast?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:12 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote: You're fully prepared to vote for Jeb Biush or Scott Walker, aren't you?

As opposed to? Hilary, Joe B, Castro? No thanks. Jeb and Scott look tollerable compared to those three.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:03 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:So..you're suggesting that this is..some bullshit? When it appears overnight in some farmer's field? No doubt some bullshit prank by (extremely capable) libtards with too much time on their hands--and some anti-corporate bent?

But it happened. It's real. And the crops were subsequently harvested and Bob's yer uncle.

Not bullshit, art. Yes, it can certainly appear overnight with proper planning, manpower and tools.

What about this is confusing you?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:18 pm**

Your typical fake (and squirming) suggestion that this--and hundreds more just as intricate and large could be done in one night--six or seven hours, tops-- by...how many people? With what sort of tools?...in what manner of total secrecy that has never been observed or revealed?

Of course you've got nothing in any way of an answer. And neither does anyone else. Or what?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:20 pm**

Damn Frisco, give it a rest. Your adventures in heterosexuality should've told you you can't simply just will something to be true.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:59 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Or what?

Why don't you try explaining why you're against our courageous Israeli allies and for the Koranimal savages that surround them...that want nothing more than to see their blood flowing like a river into the Mediterranean?

Brave Israeli troopers like this one stare down the mouth of annihilation every day they go out on patrol.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:19 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Your typical fake (and squirming) suggestion that this--and hundreds more just as intricate and large could be done in one night--six or seven hours, tops-- by...how many people? With what sort of tools?...in what manner of total secrecy that has never been observed or revealed?

Of course you've got nothing in any way of an answer. And neither does anyone else. Or what?

So it's just sooo, much easier to buy into ET's and Flying Saucers that do it in the blink of an eye instead?

They do have a nice humanistic approach to their art though.

Because aliens would create this...

An alien pot leaf

How very spooky and mysterious. Wonder what it could mean?

Wonder if the aliens like pipes or blunts?

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:47 pm**

Be nice to Felcho. It's not his fault he can't grasp how to make those fancy schmancy designs. You try operating a simple GPS device with a tinfoil hat on.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:50 pm**

R-Jack wrote:Be nice to Felcho. It's not his fault he can't grasp how to make those fancy schmancy designs. You try operating a simple GPS device with a tinfoil hat on.

Aw gee whiz R-Jack, I didn't mean nothin' by it. Just funnin' and everything.

I'll fix it, I'll show him a real alien crop circle! Here!

Ooh, mysterious.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:54 pm**

Sure, the pot leaf circle would suggest someone's sense of humor. But the fact remains--and it's a fact, R-Jack--that these are real, and no one has an explanation.
No one can explain the technique--the slight burning that doesn't damage but shapes in precise lines. And no one can explain how they coud be done in a few hours in total secrecy. Surely if some group of industrious designers took to a field with the plan all set and the mystery tools all prepared, well someone would have seen something by now, right? Someone would have snapped some pics? A vid? And unlike the 9/11 pentagon attack, the FBI or local police have not impounded such witnessing videos.

So...why suggest that I'm making things up? Making what up? If I were to insist on some explanation, that would be making something up, but no, just as with 9/11--or Bin Laden's supposed guilt-- I'm pointing out that the official story doesn't stand up at all. So? Fuck you!

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:10 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote: Someone would have snapped some pics? A vid? And unlike the 9/11 pentagon attack, the FBI or local police have not impounded such witnessing videos.

So...why suggest that I'm making things up? Making what up? If I were to insist on some explanation, that would be making something up, but no, just as with 9/11--or Bin Laden's supposed guilt-- I'm pointing out that the official story doesn't stand up at all. So? Fuck you!

Okay okay, I'll come clean. Here's a real picture of an alien carving out a crop circle.

Whew...I feel better now. Hope you do to Felchie! The truth WAS out there!

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:32 pm**

J,
The reason I said the ballon was stupid is because there is no evidence of it. There is at least a glyph of an "astronaut" looking dude. That being said it sounds like we are in same page. You think it possible but not likely and I think it is not likely but more than a mear possibility.
I do not think CS come from aliens but I don't know much about it so I might change my mind if the numbers we clearer.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:55 pm**

A serious response for a serious statement.

The balloon idea is far fetched of course, but the materials and ability to make one did exist back then. But again, it's all just speculation anyway. Of course alien contact and influence are possible, but aside from some ancient artworks, we have no physical proof and those items origins are open to all sorts of interpretation. Da Vinci drew and designed helicopters and diving suits well before their time, but he wasn't a green or gray skinned ET.

A little light in the loafers perhaps, but not alien.

LTS is like a drowning man clinging to straws. He can't offer a single shred of proof to back up his lunatic claims, pouts and whines when he's challenged and changes the subject to something else that isn't being exposed. If he wants to be a mouse to a cat with a lot of time on his paws, that's on him.

LTS being bounced by the T1B collective.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:38 am**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:43 am**

Jay in Phoenix wrote:
LTS is like a drowning man clinging to straws. He can't offer a single shred of proof to back up his lunatic claims, pouts and whines when he's challenged and changes the subject to something else that isn't being exposed. If he wants to be a mouse to a cat with a lot of time on his paws, that's on him.

But i haven't made any claims! You're the one who tried--very briefly--to suggest some practical ease with which these things have been made. It's true that I'm pointing out what's already been conceded--that the shapes are burned, etc., and that no one knows anything--or at least hasn't told or been caught. Do you dispute this? And of course we all agree your notion of a balloon perch used to design the Nazca Lines is utterly inane and borne of a childish idiocy and stunted brain. Yes, we agree.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:18 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:But i haven't made any claims!

Except in UFO's, Bush and company starting 9/11, no planes being destroyed, Bin Laden being innocent, etc.

But you haven't made any claims. Okay.

You're the one who tried--very briefly--to suggest some practical ease with which these things have been made.

And did so quite successfully. Showed you how it's done, shown pics of people making them, established how the artwork is decidedly terrestrial in origin. All you've shown is a hand as empty your brain.

It's true that I'm pointing out what's already been conceded--that the shapes are burned, etc., and that no one knows anything--or at least hasn't told or been caught. Do you dispute this?

Do you pay any attention whatsoever? Disputed and proven man-made. Anything else Felchie?

And of course we all agree your notion of a balloon perch used to design the Nazca Lines is utterly inane and borne of a childish idiocy and stunted brain. Yes, we agree.

Just one little problem there sport. The balloon conjecture isn't mine, I just related it as a theory. The author of the piece built the balloon which was pictured, just to prove it could have been done. At the very least, as unlikely as it is, at least it is in the realm of the possible, no matter how remote.

The idea of directing from hilltops is valid.

You could create the lines without any help from above if you know the dimensions you're working with. Which brings us back to crop circles, which are formed the same basic way, with a little misdirection from people with a few tricks up their sleeves.

Just watch Penn and Teller sometime. Connect the dots.

Wakey wake you fakey fake.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:37 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote: And of course we all agree your notion of a balloon perch used to design the Nazca Lines is utterly inane and borne of a childish idiocy and stunted brain. Yes, we agree.

And an alien spaceship hovering over the flats barking out directions over a loud speaker makes perfect sense to you.

Sorry, Felchie, you wouldn't know inane if it was fucking you up the ass...and it is.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:11 pm**

How tedious can you be? You're just repeating--without providing any evidence whatsoever--your bland and silly claims. For example, the pic of the people in the crop circle are examining it, not making it. You've offered nothing as to the burning method that actually makes them, and of course you offer nothing as to why no indictment or charges were ever made against Bin Laden for 9/11.

Now, here's a lil' treat because you're so fucking boring and lacking of any sort of interesting ideas..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BndVb1ucKOA

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAV4iWhFiSE

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:18 pm**

Cute first video. Looked like out-of-focus Japanese lanterns. Stationary ones.

The crops look just like a roller or ropes flattened them out. No burns. I guess if you're going to whip up some cheap circles in the middle of the night in front of cameras, use cameras that can't focus and use lanterns 'cause they look UFO'ish when diffused.

The other video was a typical Travel Channel yawn fest of talking heads and no proof. Boring.

Here's a pic of the stick and rope method in action.

Here's a real alien glyph. Note the pot pipe, which seals the deal!

Here's a link for people making the damn things.
http://www.circlemakers.org/qi.html

Try not to choke on the truth, it goes down easier than the alien cahk you nurse on.

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:35 pm**

Interesting but bullshit. First, have you ever actually stood in a field of wheat or barley? And have you for a second tried to simply flatten it with a board? Are you kidding? it barely moves, and it certainly doesn't stay down. The idea that these guys are actually flattening that crop is absurd. Moreover, the video with the cute gal shows the intricacy of the actual flattening. It's nothing that would result from a board.

No surprise that the Thrive video would be too much for you. You're a very simple and stubborn sort, who is insisting ..what, exactly? That the idea of UFOs and visitors is itself absurd? Really? Are you a Christer? They're the sort of narrowed and cowering minds that would take such a view.

Your take on the Phoenix Lights is typically childish. You simply and eagerly buy into the "military flares" explanation. Sure, "flares" just fly in a fixed pattern the length of the state--and then fly back, witnessed by thousands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC5vrZBb8zk

Posted: **Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:21 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:Interesting but bullshit. First, have you ever actually stood in a field of wheat or barley? And have you for a second tried to simply flatten it with a board? Are you kidding? it barely moves, and it certainly doesn't stay down. The idea that these guys are actually flattening that crop is absurd. Moreover, the video with the cute gal shows the intricacy of the actual flattening. It's nothing that would result from a board.

Yet, it is done all the time by these groups that get off on it, jerking your chain in the process. Press rollers are used too dummy. There are several methods, all of which you are choosing to ignore because it just isn't so much fun having secrets exposed, is it boo boo.

No surprise that the Thrive video would be too much for you. You're a very simple and stubborn sort, who is insisting ..what, exactly? That the idea of UFOs and visitors is itself absurd? Really? Are you a Christer? They're the sort of narrowed and cowering minds that would take such a view.

Wrong again Felchie, the video was just boring and tedious. It offered nothing, just like any random ghost hunter/ufo's exposed bullshit programming does. I have never said the idea of UFO's is absurd, have always maintained it as possible. I'm simply skeptical, as anyone with a thinking, rational mind is. You throw around concepts of closed minds, when your own is so sealed off from reality you can practically smell the tin foil seeping from your pores. Grab a Stridex pad and stay away from microwaves.

Your take on the Phoenix Lights is typically childish. You simply and eagerly buy into the "military flares" explanation. Sure, "flares" just fly in a fixed pattern the length of the state--and then fly back, witnessed by thousands.

My take is based on being there, retard. I buy into what I've seen before. It's what I saw that night. You, once again and with great feeling...YOU WERE NOT FUCKING THERE! Ah, much better. Now that should have knocked a couple of strands of foil loose.

Thousands of people saw the same thing, flares. It's just at the time they didn't know what it was. Ask most of those people today and they'll say a bunch of silly shit, some true, some outrageous, some just made up for attention. Bottom line, the military owned up to it, that's what the lights looked like, end of story.

Deal with it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:09 am**

Well how come no one has ever been seen actually making a crop circle? What "rollers"? Show us a "roller." How come besides some silly expose site, there's never been an actual video or picture of anyone actually making one--at night in the dark?

As for the Phoenix Lights, the witnesses in the video testify quite clearly. They were there and they certainly report something much different than " flares." How can you possibly suggest that "flares" would not only hang in place for several hours, but move together in perfect formation for hundreds of miles? Yes, actual witnesses described this. You're not only a coward, but a total liar.

And where's some evidence for Bin Laden? Your "guilt by association" is so weak-hammed as to be an embarrassment.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:14 am**

What a fucking retard.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:40 am**

So bring it, goobs. What have you got except little kiddie taunts? Any evidence for Bin Laden's guilt? No?

Anything to refute the thousands of witnesses of the Phoenix Lights? No?

Have you got anything?

Try to explain this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliBRinZHJA

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:12 am**

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Or what?

Why don't you try explaining why you're against our courageous Israeli allies and for the Koranimal savages that surround them...that want nothing more than to see their blood flowing like a river into the Mediterranean?

Brave Israeli troopers like this one stare down the mouth of annihilation every day they go out on patrol.

C'mon now, turn down yer hot-plate, Shlomo, or you might just wake up while diving out a window--and thinking you're right!

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:54 pm**

LTS TRN 2 wrote:First, have you ever actually stood in a field of wheat or barley? And have you for a second tried to simply flatten it with a board?

Have you?

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:29 pm**

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:First, have you ever actually stood in a field of wheat or barley? And have you for a second tried to simply flatten it with a board?

Have you?

I wouldn't put it past him...

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