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[Moving Sale]

"When on July 4, 1776, Americans declared independence from the monarchy of Great Britain, they were faced with the formidable task of creating new republican governments."

Way to put the cart before the horse Gordon. They were in fact faced with the formidable task of backing up their words with military power. Even an idiot like ML knows that. Ok well most people know that.

"The revolution was not about simply becoming independent from British tyranny; with their new state governments Americans aimed to show the world how tyranny anywhere might be prevented."

Of course it was, but the revolution and dec of ind are not the same thing now are they Gordon?

[Moving Sale]

I believe my work here is done for now.

Nice white flag you yellow racist fuck.

[ML@Coyote]

Relax little man.

Have another warm glass of milk and take your nap. There's always tomorrow.

See how handsome you can be when you give us a little smile?

[Moving Sale]

Nice white flag fucktard.

[Left Seater]

First off it is impossible to drive legally. This is done to give the cops PC to stop ANYONE they want. There is even case law admitting this.
Try running a biz without running into some regulation you don't know. Smoking law. Municipal codes. Byzantine tax laws. The list goes on and on.

This might be the worst take of your history of horrible takes. I drove from the hotel to the stadium and back today. Couple of stop signs, one light and lots of 30mph sped limits. I didn't speed and came to a full stop at the stop signs. So how again was this impossible to complete?

As for running a business I do it daily. Sure it takes effort but we don't go about breaking laws and there are a ton of FAA regulations to follow.

[Derron]

There is no danger in running a light at 4 am with no one around. Lick jackboots often?

The could you possibly explain how in 10 years of my EMT experience, that I have taken multiple dead people from and treated probably 60 victims of car accidents at intersections between the hours of 2 am and 6 am..3 There are two I specifically remember as 2 fatalities and multiple trauma entries.

Of course they assumed no one was around and both were drunk as fuck. Kind of like your shit takes.

[Derron]

88braincells wrote:
The only problem I have with this situation is the lack of common sense. If you draw blood from the shit stain (now corpse) and it later turns out that the blood draw was unlawful, it can be tossed out. But if you do not draw the blood, then forever you do not know what it would have shown.

Spoken like a true nazi.

How would the blood draw be unlawful since if the person was dead and the draw is the function of the MX doing a legal investigative autopsy ?? Save yourself dude I have been present at probably 100 post blood draws by the MX in the mortuary's and MX quarters and no warrant is required. So fuck off now.

[ML@Coyote]

"When on July 4, 1776, Americans declared independence from the monarchy of Great Britain, they were faced with the formidable task of creating new republican governments."

Way to put the cart before the horse Gordon. They were in fact faced with the formidable task of backing up their words with military power. Even an idiot like ML knows that. Ok well most people know that.

"The revolution was not about simply becoming independent from British tyranny; with their new state governments Americans aimed to show the world how tyranny anywhere might be prevented."

Of course it was, but the revolution and dec of ind are not the same thing now are they Gordon?

The Declaration of Independence was a call for Americans to take arms against the British with a promise that a new government would be put into place that respected the rights of citizens. The Declaration was the heart and soul of the revolution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not just something to fight against, but something to fight for.

[ML@Coyote]

There is no danger in running a light at 4am with no one around.

When I was teaching traffic violator school I heard that quite a bit, that there was nobody around.

Obviously, there was someone around...

Years ago I was in a car accident. I was driving about 50mph minding my own business when a car coming from the opposite direction made a left turn right in front of me. I hit the brakes, but could not stop. The car I hit was full of a family on their way to the airport to drop off their grandfather who was going home after a visit. He took the worst of the impact, and they had to take him away in a helicopter. He was fucked up pretty bad. There was a sign posted where the car made the left turn that said, NO LEFT TURN. When the cop asked her why she turned, she said she didn't see me coming. In other words, nobody was around. Best just to obey traffic signs and signals even if you think it's safe to disregard them. They're there for a reason, 4am or not.

[ML@Coyote]

From Wikipedia:

"On June 10, 1993, Michael Whren and James L. Brown were driving around Washington D.C. in an SUV. Brown was the driver, and Whren sat in the passenger seat. They were driving in what was considered a “high drug area”. Meanwhile, two officers dressed in plainclothes were patrolling the area in an unmarked car. They were members of the District of Columbia’s Vice Squad and were assigned to the area; they noticed the suspicious vehicle pulled over at a stop sign for about 20 seconds. The passenger was distracting the driver. As the officers approached the vehicle, the vehicle turned at an “unreasonable” speed without using their turning signal. For the traffic violation, the officers pulled over Whren and Brown. Upon approaching the car, the officer noticed two plastic bags of crack cocaine in Whren’s hands. Marijuana laced with PCP was also found in plain sight. The two were charged with possession with the intent to distribute around 50 g of crack cocaine. Also, Whren and Brown were pulled over in a school zone, which resulted in a harsher federal drug violation sentences."

Suggestion to drug dealers: you'd be wise to obey traffic laws.

Moving Sale...your point was?

[Moving Sale]

The Declaration of Independence was a call for Americans to take arms against the British with a promise that a new government would be put into place that respected the rights of citizens. The Declaration was the heart and soul of the revolution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not just something to fight against, but something to fight for.

You are an idiot. There had already been many battles and hundreds of deaths by 7-4-76. They had already taken up arms you fucking dolt. And they were not going to replace the British with "a new government" respectful or not. There were going to set up many governments. It's like you did nothing but suck dick in the bathroom during 12th grade America History.

[Moving Sale]

My point was pretty clear to all but the densest of people. There are a million traffic laws so that the cops have a reason to pull you over and find your crack.

LS,
You didn't even mention 5% of the laws you needed to obey. Signiling. Lane position. Lane topping, when you turn to sharp and run over perpendicular lane line. Car condition (I know you do flight checks do you do drive checks?) If you think you can drive more than a few blocks without the cops finding something wrong with your driving you are sadly mistaken.
Same with the FAA if they want to target you, good luck being in compliance.

[Left Seater]

So yeah I used my turn signals and stayed in my lane. Passed plenty of cops as we got close to the stadium as well. Yet not a single one found fault with my driving. So again, how is this impossible?

Further you lawyer types are part of the reason for many of our traffic laws. You guys get all moist about suing and next thing you know there are new laws. See texting and driving. See hands free calls. See also trying to hold a sender of a text to someone driving as liable.

As for the FAA they make it very clear on what you need to do and when. Just follow along on the schedule and you will be fine.

[ML@Coyote]

The Declaration of Independence was a call for Americans to take arms against the British with a promise that a new government would be put into place that respected the rights of citizens. The Declaration was the heart and soul of the revolution. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not just something to fight against, but something to fight for.

You are an idiot. There had already been many battles and hundreds of deaths by 7-4-76. They had already taken up arms you fucking dolt. And they were not going to replace the British with "a new government" respectful or not. There were going to set up many governments. It's like you did nothing but suck dick in the bathroom during 12th grade America History.

Your lack of insight is astonishing.

Oh wait, no it isn't. You believe traffic laws are put into effect to give cops an excuse to pull over drug dealers.

[ML@Coyote]

So yeah I used my turn signals and stayed in my lane. Passed plenty of cops as we got close to the stadium as well. Yet not a single one found fault with my driving. So again, how is this impossible?

I think Moving Sale means to say it's impossible if you're a drug dealer with a bag of crack in your lap driving through a school zone.

[Moving Sale]

So yeah I used my turn signals and stayed in my lane. Passed plenty of cops as we got close to the stadium as well. Yet not a single one found fault with my driving. So again, how is this impossible?

Further you lawyer types are part of the reason for many of our traffic laws. You guys get all moist about suing and next thing you know there are new laws. See texting and driving. See hands free calls. See also trying to hold a sender of a text to someone driving as liable.

As for the FAA they make it very clear on what you need to do and when. Just follow along on the schedule and you will be fine.

You are in my estimation, a lying POS. You don't always not speed, you don't always not lane top because in many places you CANT turn without lane topping, but let's say you are not a lying POS but actually the only person in America that can drive without breaking laws. The next time you drive take account of how many people you see that are breaking laws and report that % back to me.

[Moving Sale]

Your lack of insight is astonishing.

Oh wait, no it isn't. You believe traffic laws are put into effect to give cops an excuse to pull over drug dealers.

Anotomy of a White flag:
Make sure you actually address zero parts of the other person's post. Check.
Make some statement about the other person that is false. Check.
Remember when I said you were a worse poster than Gay in Phx? I meant worse than Duhrron.
Absolutely pathetic showing.

[Moving Sale]

You guys get all moist about suing and next thing you know there are new laws. See texting and driving.

See also DUI.

[ML@Coyote]

Your lack of insight is astonishing.

Oh wait, no it isn't. You believe traffic laws are put into effect to give cops an excuse to pull over drug dealers.

Anotomy of a White flag:
Make sure you actually address zero parts of the other person's post. Check.
Make some statement about the other person that is false. Check.
Remember when I said you were a worse poster than Gay in Phx? I meant worse than Duhrron.
Absolutely pathetic showing.

Name one of your lame arguments you've posted that I haven't addressed.

[Moving Sale]

I guess you are lacking in short term memory or ignorant of how argument works, but you never addressed this post except with grade 3 drivel and fallacies.

You are an idiot. There had already been many battles and hundreds of deaths by 7-4-76. They had already taken up arms you fucking dolt. And they were not going to replace the British with "a new government" respectful or not. There were going to set up many governments. It's like you did nothing but suck dick in the bathroom during 12th grade America History.

So try and pull your head out of your ass and actually address what was said.

[Left Seater]

You guys get all moist about suing and next thing you know there are new laws. See texting and driving.

See also DUI.

So you further my point and kneecap yours.

As for speeding I am sure I have done it, but it is by no means impossible to maintain speed limits. As for lane topping you will have to explain that. The term doesn't appear in the Texas DPS road laws, nor does it appear in the City of Alamo Heights pages. Further google shows no driving results for that term in its first few pages.

[ML@Coyote]

I guess you are lacking in short term memory or ignorant of how argument works, but you never addressed this post except with grade 3 drivel and fallacies.

You are an idiot. There had already been many battles and hundreds of deaths by 7-4-76. They had already taken up arms you fucking dolt. And they were not going to replace the British with "a new government" respectful or not. There were going to set up many governments. It's like you did nothing but suck dick in the bathroom during 12th grade America History.

So try and pull your head out of your ass and actually address what was said.

Sigh...the reason I didn't post an argument was because I've already done so several times in this thread. The problem is this: you stepped in your own shit, and now you're trying to wipe it off on my shirt, over and over. I provided a clear explanation for my opinion (several times), and even cited a Pulitzer Prize winning historian to back me up. All you've done is say, "No, you're wrong." None of your arguments say anything new, except your latest now implies I did nothing but suck dick in the bathroom during 12th grade. This is a slightly new angle, but hardly worth responding to.

But because you're special, I'll say it again. The Declaration of Independence was much more than a rejection of the king. Do you think our founding fathers were stupid? They knew full well that a new government would be needed once the British were defeated, and the Declaration of Independence gives hope that such a new government is coming. It promises that this new government will respect the rights of man. It says specifically, " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..." Clearly they were looking ahead with a new form of government in mind.

And yes, there were battles before the Declaration of Independence, but more men were needed. And they needed to be convinced that the war was going to be worthwhile. Thus the promise for a better government and a better life.

Now I have a question for you. Why are you so hot and bothered about drug dealers being pulled over for speeding through a school zone?

[Moving Sale]

First off you didn't answer me. You dismissed my retort and just said you had already answered me. This is pretty simple stuff. That is not how argument works. You can just drop a take and when someone tells you why it's stupid, you can't just drop a white flag and say it was already addressed. You really are a stupid fuck.

Second,

Now I have a question for you. Why are you so hot and bothered about drug dealers being pulled over for speeding through a school zone?

Wow. You just went on and on about why the tryanny of the King was to be revolted against and then you have the audacity to question the Bill of Rights? Nice going you nazi fuck.

[Moving Sale]

When stopping at a rr crossing tx where must you stop?
What are the five conditions that even require you to stop?
The fifth condition has four parts, what are those parts?
"An operator of a vehicle who approaches a railroad grade crossing equipped with railroad crossbuck signs without automatic, electric, or mechanical signal devices, crossing gates, or a flagger warning of the approach or passage of a train shall yield the right-of-way to a train in hazardous proximity to the crossing, and proceed at a speed that is reasonable for the existing conditions." What does "reasonable for the existing conditions" mean in MPH?

[ML@Coyote]

So, some laws are written clearly and others aren't. That's hardly a news flash. Who every said the legal system was perfect? What's your point?

That's why we have police officers, judges, and juries; to hopefully make reasonable interpretations. Of course, they aren't perfect either. So are you proposing an alternative? I'd like to hear it.

[Moving Sale]

What's my point? Well I have said it many times. I am not sure how you could possibly be stupid enough to not know, but once more for the retards.
As mvskkkal said: Some laws are made to make it hard for undocumented aliens to live in the usa without breaking the law. This is a point which no one seems to have an isssue. I added that the same it true for anyone living in America including self loathing racists citizens like him. This is the point at which all hell broke loose and you idiots got your panties in a bunch. The fact remains that if the government wants to fuck with you, they can find something.

[smackaholic]

While on a few of your examples, I have some level of agreement, can you tell me what your proposal is to fix it? Anarchy maybe? No speed limits, no stop signs, every man for himself?

Or would you rather we keep these laws so you can make a living argueing (poorly) against them?

[Moving Sale]

Well obviously it's not, what we have or anarchy. That is just another false dicot, it's also slippery slope.
As to the actual problem:
The short term answer is to overturn Whren. This will never happen with idiots like ML, who doesn't even have a clue as to what it stands for, voting. The long term answer is to stop looking for boogeymen that don't exist and take your national, state and municipal codes back. The latter is something I work for everyday, but as I said its like bailing water out of the ocean with so many dumbfucks voting.

[ML@Coyote]

Well obviously it's not, what we have or anarchy. That is just another false dicot, it's also slippery slope.

Why is it that every time someone asks you a question, it's a false dichotomy? Why don't you try answering the question. You can qualify your answer however you see fit.

As to the actual problem: The short term answer is to overturn Whren. This will never happen with idiots like ML, who doesn't even have a clue as to what it stands for, voting.

This doesn't make laws any clearer. It only makes it more difficult to catch criminals. You haven't answered the question.

The long term answer is to stop looking for boogeymen that don't exist and take your national, state and municipal codes back.

Then what? Write them more clearly, or do away with the codes completely. Is your answer is to do away with laws? I thought the question was a false dichotomy, but apparently it wasn't.

The latter is something I work for everyday, but as I said its like bailing water out of the ocean with so many dumbfucks voting.

You work to get criminals off the hook. Don't make yourself sound so noble.

[ML@Coyote]

BTW:

Whren v. United States, 517 U.S. 806 (1996), was a unanimous United States Supreme Court decision that "declared that any traffic offense committed by a driver was a legitimate legal basis for a stop."

"Unanimous" is the key word here.

[Left Seater]

^^^^^^^^^^^

That is about as "no shit" as they come. So you want to overturn that. How many infractions should police need to observe in your world before they are allowed to stop someone?

Most of us who are stopped on occasion understand we broke a law and sign up for defensive driving, take the insurance discount and move on.

[smackaholic]

I suspect what he means is that a stop for something else can not evolve into something else, even when a different infraction is staring them in the face. I don't agree. I am actually for shitbags being brought to justice.

[Diego in Seattle]

Moving Fail, what was Timothy McVeigh stopped for after committing the largest act of terrorism on US soil at that time?

[ML@Coyote]

File photo of "Moving Sale," copyright 2012 Don Martin

One Fine Evening at the Doctor's Office

This script transcribed from a recording made September 10, 2017 in the office of the esteemed Dr. Vinnie Boombatz PhD
Chief psychologist at the Institute of Crackpot Internet Addicts

Dr. Boombatz: Good to to see you MS. How are we doing this evening?

Moving Sale: Not so good, Doc.

Dr, Boombatz: Have you been on that message board again?

Moving Sale: No one takes me seriously, Doc. Honestly, I don't know what the problem is.

Dr. Boombatz: Let's try something different this time. Are you familiar with Rorschach?

Moving Sale: Isn't that Trump's secret Nazi fucktard anti-immigration hatchet man?

Dr. Boombatz: No, actually it's a little test. I'm going to have you look at some ink blots.

Moving Sale: (unintelligible)

Dr. Boombatz: Here's the first one. What do you see?

Moving Sale: That's easy. It's a big black cock.

Dr. Boombatz: And this one?

Moving Sale: It's another black cock.

Dr. Boombatz: And how about this one?

Moving Sale: Another black cock. Say, what's with all the pictures of black cocks?

Dr. Boombatz: Let's try this one. What do you see?

Moving Sale: That's a false dichotomy. I can tell because there's a question mark in it.

Dr. Boombatz: Not all questions are false dichotomies.

Moving Sale: Oh yes they are. You're not pulling the wool over my eyes.

Dr. Boombatz: How about this inkblot. Do you see anything different?

Moving Sale: I see a drug dealer in front of a school, being pulled over by the police for speeding.

Dr. Boombatz: How does that make you feel.

Moving Sale: I feel sorry for the drug dealer. His rights are obviously being violated.

Dr. Boombatz: What about the children? What do you feel for them?

Moving Sale: Do you see any children paying me by the hour? I know which side my bread is buttered on.

Dr. Boombatz: How about this inkblot. What do you see here?

Moving Sale: A vague law. There are too many vague laws.

Dr. Boombatz: Do you want to do anything about it?

Moving Sale: Yes, the first thing I'd do is allow drug dealers to speed in front of schools.

Dr. Boombatz: That doesn't make any sense.

Moving Sale: Can we look at the black cock pictures again?

Dr. Boombatz: I don't think we're getting anywhere with this.

Moving Sale: You're a cumstain!

Dr. Boombatz: Pardon me?

Moving Sale: Nice white flag, you idiot.

Dr. Boombatz: White flag?

Moving Sale: Ha, ha! Hee, hee, ho, ho! Bwahahahaha!

End of recording.

[Derron]

Your lack of insight is astonishing.

Oh wait, no it isn't. You believe traffic laws are put into effect to give cops an excuse to pull over drug dealers.

Anotomy of a White flag:
Make sure you actually address zero parts of the other person's post. Check.
Make some statement about the other person that is false. Check.
Remember when I said you were a worse poster than Gay in Phx? I meant worse than Duhrron.
Absolutely pathetic showing.

You going to dispute my take about the blood draw or you just ignoring it because you are wrong? Second thought, skip answering it since your takes are getting real tedious.

[Rooster]

"An operator of a vehicle who approaches a railroad grade crossing equipped with railroad crossbuck signs without automatic, electric, or mechanical signal devices, crossing gates, or a flagger warning of the approach or passage of a train shall yield the right-of-way to a train in hazardous proximity to the crossing, and proceed at a speed that is reasonable for the existing conditions." What does "reasonable for the existing conditions" mean in MPH?

If you get into an accident, you were not doing a reasonable speed. The FAA has a similar rule were you may get violated for operating an aircraft in a dangerous and reckless manner. The gist of that is if you do not get in a wreck or break some rule, you were driving at a speed that is reasonable for the existing conditions. It's a catch-all that is based on your performance as a driver-- it either exonerates you or nails you. Just don't screw up. It's pretty simple.

[Moving Sale]

Most of us who are stopped on occasion understand we broke a law and sign up for defensive driving, take the insurance discount and move on.

But you have never been pulled over because you always follow the laws because it is so easy.

[Moving Sale]

"An operator of a vehicle who approaches a railroad grade crossing equipped with railroad crossbuck signs without automatic, electric, or mechanical signal devices, crossing gates, or a flagger warning of the approach or passage of a train shall yield the right-of-way to a train in hazardous proximity to the crossing, and proceed at a speed that is reasonable for the existing conditions." What does "reasonable for the existing conditions" mean in MPH?

If you get into an accident, you were not doing a reasonable speed. The FAA has a similar rule were you may get violated for operating an aircraft in a dangerous and reckless manner. The gist of that is if you do not get in a wreck or break some rule, you were driving at a speed that is reasonable for the existing conditions. It's a catch-all that is based on your performance as a driver-- it either exonerates you or nails you. Just don't screw up. It's pretty simple.

So you have no way to know if you are following the law. Gothcha.

[Moving Sale]

Oh I see it's my fault you all are forever dropping fallacies eh ML@stupid?
As for the laws in America. There are too many. Many are vague and therefore hard to follow. This is done, as mvskkkal pointed out, on purpose. Not only do they need to be clearer they need to be fewer. You can suck juiced up badge dick all you want, but I prefer freedom.

[Mikey]

Question:
What happens when you gather three or more Last Post Whores in one thread?