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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:53 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
mvscal wrote:Go ahead and put your faith in the same organization that is similarly trying to delist pedophilia as a mental illness.
Link?
Then again, you married a n...igger so you that pretty much guarantees that you'll buy any line of PC bullshit hook line and sinker no matter how idiotic.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:08 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
mvscal wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
mvscal wrote:Go ahead and put your faith in the same organization that is similarly trying to delist pedophilia as a mental illness.
Link?

Needless to say, you are a fucking moron.
Psychiatric Association Debates Reclassifying Pedophilia
By Lawrence Morahan
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
June 11, 2003

Editor's Note: Removes 1st Add at the request of one of the report's authors.

(CNSNews.com) - In a step critics charge could result in decriminalizing sexual contact between adults and children, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.

Some mental health professionals attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness - including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

Most of the mental illnesses being considered for removal are known as "paraphilias."

Dr. Charles Moser of San Francisco's Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality and co-author Peggy Kleinplatz of the University of Ottawa presented conferees with a paper entitled "DSM-IV-TR and the Paraphilias: An Argument for Removal."

People whose sexual interests are atypical, culturally forbidden or religiously proscribed should not necessarily be labeled mentally ill, they argued.

Different societies stigmatize different sexual behaviors, and since the existing research could not distinguish people with paraphilias from so-called "normophilics," there is no reason to diagnose paraphilics as either a distinct group or psychologically unhealthy, Moser and Kleinplatz stated.

Participants also debated gender-identity disorder, a condition in which a person feels discomfort with his or her biological sex. Homosexual activists have long argued that gender identity disorder should not be assumed to be abnormal.

"The situation of the paraphilias at present parallels that of homosexuality in the early 1970s. Without the support or political astuteness of those who fought for the removal of homosexuality, the paraphilias continue to be listed in the DSM," Moser and Kleinplatz wrote.

A. Dean Byrd, vice president of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) and a clinical professor of medicine at the University of Utah, condemned the debate. Taking the paraphilias out of the DSM without research would have negative consequences, he said.

"What this does, in essence, is it has a chilling effect on research," Byrd said. "That is, once you declassify it, there's no reason to continue studying it. What we know is that the paraphilias really impair interpersonal sexual behavior...and to suggest that it could be 'normalized' simply takes away from the science, but more importantly, has a chilling effect on research."

"Normalizing" pedophilia would have enormous implications, especially since civil laws closely follow the scientific community on social-moral matters, said Linda Ames Nicolosi, NARTH publications director.

"If pedophilia is deemed normal by psychiatrists, then how can it remain illegal?" Nicolosi asked. "It will be a tough fight to prove in the courts that it should still be against the law."

In previous articles, some mental health professionals have argued that there is little or no proof that sex with adults is necessarily harmful to minors. Indeed, some have argued that many sexually molested children later look back on their experience as positive, Nicolosi said.

"And other psychiatrists have written, again in scientific journals, that if children can be forced to go to church, why should 'consent' be the defining moral issue when it comes to sex?" Nicolosi said.

But whether pedophilia should be judged "normal and healthy" is as much a moral question as a scientific one, according to Nicolosi.

"The courts are so afraid of 'legislating someone's privately held religious beliefs' that if pedophilia is normalized, we will be hard put to defend the retention of laws against child molestation," Nicolosi noted.

In a fact sheet on pedophilia, the APA calls the behavior "criminal and immoral."

"An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act that never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior," the APA said.

However, the APA failed to address whether it considers a person with a pedophile orientation to have a mental disorder.

"That is the question that is being actively debated at this time within the APA, and that is the question they have not answered when they respond that such relationships are 'immoral and illegal,'" Nicolosi said.

Dr. Darrel A. Regier, director of research for the APA, said there were "no plans and there is no process set up that would lead to the removal of the paraphilias from their consideration as legitimate mental disorders."

Some years ago, the APA considered the question of whether a person who had such attractions but did not act on them should still be labeled with a disorder.

"We clarified in the DSM-IV-TR...that if a person acted on those urges, we considered it a disorder," Regier said.

Dr. Robert Spitzer, author of a study on change of sexual orientation that he presented at the 2001 APA convention, took part in the symposium in San Francisco in May.

Spitzer said the debate on removing gender identity disorder from the DSM was generated by people in the homosexual activist community "who are troubled by gender identity disorder in particular."

Spitzer added: "I happen to think that's a big mistake."

What Spitzer considered the most outrageous proposal, to get rid of the paraphilias, "doesn't have the same support that the gender-identity rethinking does." And he said he considers it unlikely that changes would be made regarding the paraphilias.

"Getting rid of the paraphilias, which would mean getting rid of pedophilia, that would not happen in a million years. I think there might be some compromise about gender-identity disorder," he said.

Dr. Frederick Berlin, founder of the Sexual Disorders Clinic at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, said people who are sexually attracted to children should learn not to feel ashamed of their condition.

"I have no problem accepting the fact that someone, through no fault of his own, is attracted to children. But certainly, such an individual has a responsibility...not to act on it," Berlin said.

"Many of these people need help in not acting on these very intense desires in the same way that a drug addict or alcoholic may need help. Again, we don't for the most part blame someone these days for their alcoholism; we don't see it simply as a moral weakness," he added.

"We do believe that these people have a disease or a disorder, but we also recognize that in having it that it impairs their function, that it causes them suffering that they need to turn for help," Berlin said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp? ... 0611c.html
Once again, you show why reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:34 pm
by BSmack
mvscal wrote:Once again you prove that you are a brainless, spinning fucktard who can't admit that you're fucking clueless even when the plain facts are staring you right in the face.
In a step critics charge could result in decriminalizing sexual contact between adults and children, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.
Go ahead and shove that up your ass, dumbshit.
Murder isn't a mental disorder either. If anything, that would seem to make it harder for pedophiles to plead insanity. Isn't that a good thing?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:58 am
by Diego in Seattle
Looks like Hardaway can get a job with the Sonics.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:36 pm
by IndyGunClown
mvscal wrote:It's OK. N...iggers can say these things. This latest "outrage" will burn itself out very quickly assuming it ever catches on.
I started to read this thread and when I got to your post I thought it was a waste of time. Then as I was clicking back and saw you edited this post.

This isnt grammar smack on a one sentence post. This is to ask you:

How after all this fucking time you have been begging for black cock to dance like Michael Jackson in your mouth, can your fucking dumbass forget that "mvscal" was replaced for ni....gger????????????????????????

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:37 pm
by Tom In VA
Hey it really is Indy.


Welcome back dude.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:39 pm
by Goober McTuber
“Welcome back”?

More like “Fuck off and die”.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:44 pm
by IndyGunClown
Goober McTuber wrote:“Welcome back”?

More like “Fuck off and die”.
I only visit message boards where adults congregate and discuss interests I share. From time to time, I remember this place exists, read up a little and realize how fucking terrible of a hobby you all have and just how much you actually suck at what you enjoy. Reminds me of that "Yo Mama" show on MTV. This board is as fucking worthless as that show.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:46 pm
by Tom In VA
IndyGunClown wrote:I only visit message boards where adults congregate and discuss interests I share.
Black cock ?

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:49 pm
by Goober McTuber
IndyGunClown wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:“Welcome back”?

More like “Fuck off and die”.
I only visit message boards where adults congregate and discuss interests I share. From time to time, I remember this place exists, read up a little and realize how fucking terrible of a hobby you all have and just how much you actually suck at what you enjoy. Reminds me of that "Yo Mama" show on MTV. This board is as fucking worthless as that show.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and try not to suck too many cocks in the parking lot.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:51 pm
by IndyGunClown
Goober McTuber wrote:
IndyGunClown wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:“Welcome back”?

More like “Fuck off and die”.
I only visit message boards where adults congregate and discuss interests I share. From time to time, I remember this place exists, read up a little and realize how fucking terrible of a hobby you all have and just how much you actually suck at what you enjoy. Reminds me of that "Yo Mama" show on MTV. This board is as fucking worthless as that show.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, and try not to suck too many cocks in the parking lot.
I see you dont come up w/ original shit either.


That's just the term I've seen used for them in the past? I don't fucking know? Here's a better one.....how 'bout "pictures that were altered to make fun of someone, something, someplace, just for fun, or to possibly start a thread about, that way one complete rim lick can come in with his "renegade post" and try to stir shit up just for the sake of saying he can".

Good job, Lorenzo.

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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:29 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
IndyGunClown wrote:This board is as fucking worthless as that show.

The last time I went to a zoo, I saw a monkey scream like a banshee and rub shit all over himself. The only difference between the monkey and you... someone actually locked his pathetic ass in a cage. The door to yours is wide open, yet you choose to remain inside.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:02 am
by IndyGunClown
ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
IndyGunClown wrote:This board is as fucking worthless as that show.

The last time I went to a zoo, I saw a monkey scream like a banshee and rub shit all over himself. The only difference between the monkey and you... someone actually locked his pathetic ass in a cage. The door to yours is wide open, yet you choose to remain inside.
Nice stupid reference you made there.

He's a real one for you. You post here regularly and often.