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mvscal wrote:He is simply trying to draw some equivalence between theories as if they are all supported by an equal weight of evidence. He then glosses right past the FACT that the only "evidence" for APW are computer models which can't reproduce known historical trends or even begin to account for the cooling trend we are currently in.

Just more intellectual dishonesty from a cornered rat.

All you're doing--like a wind-up toy--is parroting word for word the tired mantras of Rusp Limpdick and the right-wing hackdom. This tedious method is based on the observations of...Goebbels?..who noted that if you just keep repeating a lie, soon a lot of people will believe it.

What you're ignoring--as hard as you can--is the mountain of evidence that doesn't fall within the confines of "climategate" and the niggled parsing of oil-industry whores.

The entire Global Warming Denialist movement is every bit as disgraceful and bogus as the anti-Darwin campaigns in the Kansas public schools, etc. Sure, "it's just a theory" these militant morons keep chanting. Your leaders are outright loons--Inhofe, Palin, Bachmann--and your "scientists" are bought and paid for. What the fuck are you? You can't be serious.

LTS TRN 2 wrote:[ Rusp Limpdick and the right-wing hackdom. ....Inhofe, Palin, Bachmann...

Seriously.

Okay,as serious as anyone can be with a moron like you. Does reciting names ever prove anything? Just curious, it's getting tedious.



Not that the rest of your "insightful takes" are less so.

Avi/Jessup, your tedious attempts at the Goebbels "repeat-a-lie" tactic are weak and easily dismissed and trumped.

• Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

• The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.

• The Arctic is feeling the effects the most. Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

• Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.

• Glaciers and mountain snows are rapidly melting—for example, Montana's Glacier National Park now has only 27 glaciers, versus 150 in 1910. In the Northern Hemisphere, thaws also come a week earlier in spring and freezes begin a week later.

• Coral reefs, which are highly sensitive to small changes in water temperature, suffered the worst bleaching—or die-off in response to stress—ever recorded in 1998, with some areas seeing bleach rates of 70 percent. Experts expect these sorts of events to increase in frequency and intensity in the next 50 years as sea temperatures rise.



These are the basic facts, which neither you nor the minions of right-wing hackdom can refute. And make no mistake, at issue isn't how to convince barnacles like yourself, but rather how to actually address the problem.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: • The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.

So, 400 years ago it was hotter? Or is it "possibly" several millenia? Sounds to me there's a whole buncha not knowing just what the temps were, but, it is fairly certain that sometime, wayyyy back when it WAS hotter and that it got real cold for a few hundred years and we are now coming out of that cold spell.

So, in other words, it gets hot, it gets cold no fukking matter what we do.

Nick, if you'd put down the Queeran and pick up an IPCC talking points handbook, you'd know that the only reason they changed the name of their scam from"Global Warming" to "Climate Change" is that they had no way to explain the lower temps in the past decade.

I know it must be a bitch keeping up with constant flow of bullshit when they shovel out a new doomsday scenario every week and tell us how we caused it.

Gotta RACK them for telling us to stop eating beef and kill our dogs though. I'm guessing next they'll chastise us for exhaling too much CO2. They'll pass a cap and trade law on that too, so you mouthbreathers will have to pay the rest of us. I mean, we can't have you Halitosizing the world's White-hooded Marsh Weasel into extinction, now can we?

mvscal wrote:
Yet the global temperature has been dropping for the last decade

really?



okay, show me where this temperature "dropping" is occuring....

NIce chart, Feelsdix. Too bad it's as phony as the rest of the Global Warm-errr, Climate Change "science"

You do realize that NASA is refusing to comply with FOIA filings for the raw data, right?

Nevermind that the temp-reporting stations in northern canada have been taken offline and replaced by new ones in urban areas in temperate zones... there is that.

We are truly witnessing the biggest scam in human history.

LTS TRN 2 wrote: • Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.

Nobody cares.

The sky is FALLING!

FOLLOW THE MONEY , YOU FOOL!

Perhaps Andrew Bolt of the Australian summed up the recent UN global warming conference best when he said, “Nothing is real in Copenhagen – not the temperature record, not the predictions, not the agenda, not the “solution”. Indeed, something was rotten in the state of Denmark, for the conference had nothing to do with climate change but was rather a shakedown of the West by the third world countries using the ideology of global warming as the vehicle to accomplish a massive transfer of wealth, all done of course under the sham pretense of saving mankind.

The temp levels have been skewed by the rather inappropriate placement of weather stations like tarmacs, tar roofs, and other heat generating sources. How inconvenient, or is it? Pull you head our of your collective asses, this is about your wallet and the wealth of the west.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7RU6_WCF94

What mewling bullshit!

The facts I've provided are all accompanied by the actual scientific bodies that confirmed them. Notice that the Deniers can offer nothing except to say "no...that's wrong," followed by the usual totally unsupported attacks on folks like Al Gore.

Simply repeating the lies and smears and distortions of outright hacks like Rusp Limpdick is pretty much as low as one can go. So...how is it down there on the bottom, crawling in the dark?