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Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:00 pm
by Rooster
Screw_Michigan wrote:
lol

Fragile masculinity totally describes the Trump ball lickers here to a T---Sirfuckafist, Melty, Rooster, Duhron. Fragile fucking egos searching for their savior and they found him in Trump.
:grin: I confess that while I am nowhere near to being a tough guy-- on the internet or IRL-- the idea that my masculinity is somehow fragile is very funny. Even moreso because as I have said repeatedly, I did not vote for Trump. But please, carry on with your free and in-depth analysis of my delicate mental state. I'm saving thousands on therapy fees!
:bode:

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:47 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Smackie Chan wrote: While there may be something to see, nothing will come of it. There will be no legal action against Trump. There will be no impeachment. There will be minimal impact at the polls. He will be re-elected.
Unabridged overt racism in the US is a powerful drug. And he will not be re-elected.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:50 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote:POTUS who exhibits leadership qualities
Oh that is rich. Do tell.
and is able to get something done instead of having the constant circle jerk of Obama and Hitlery.
Oh, yes. Signs GOP tax bill that funnels more money to the CEO class + Those CEOs and shareholders reap the benefits of the tax bill + CEOs of said companies (see: GM) then cut 15,000 jobs = Getting things done according to Duhron.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:21 pm
by Mikey
I hope you’re not talking about Bernie.

Unless it’s maybe Bernie Lomax.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:11 pm
by Dinsdale
Bernie has a tough time deciding which of his three houses to sit in while he maps out socialism in America.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:20 pm
by smackaholic
I think you're wrong, 88.

Everyone who voted for Hillary would have voted for Bernie, with the exception of half a dozen man hating lesbos that would have sat home.

A LOT of Bernie Bros, mostly older blue collar white dudes voted for Trump. I think most of them will stay with him.

If Hillary runs again, Trump will stomp her. Bernie can't do it. Crazy Uncle Joe could have, but too late for him as well.

The dems will likely go to the clean nice negro card again. Trouble is, both Kamala and Spartacus are complete tools. I hope they go with Fauxcahontas, but I doubt she'd get past the primary.

What I would really like to see is Trump decide he's tired of the political game and he's done what he came to do. Then they run a balck dude. Preferably Herman Cain. But Herman may be a bit too old. Maybe Tim Scott, but I'm not sure if he's ready for it yet.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:30 pm
by Smackie Chan
smackaholic wrote:What I would really like to see is Trump decide he's tired of the political game and he's done what he came to do. Then they run a balck dude. Preferably Herman Cain. But Herman may be a bit too old. Maybe Tim Scott, but I'm not sure if he's ready for it yet.
Some might view this as you looking for a balck cock to suck. Not that I necessarily do. Just sayin'.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:33 pm
by Kierland
You voted for Don the Con and have yet to admit what a huge mistake that was. Your “rational” take on 2020 is, like you, a fucking joke.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:00 am
by Softball Bat
.088 wrote:Trump was supposed to drain the swamp. it is still very damp, but also more exposed for the cesspool that it is.

Trump himself is a cesspool.

duh



Now loser has declared December 5th a National Day of Mourning for the late H.W. Bush.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/mar ... e-h-w-bush

rotf...

One of the biggest creatures of the swamp.





Meet the new boss...




WW

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:21 am
by Softball Bat
.088 wrote:Actually, he is a lying, insecure, tone deaf douchebag. But by conventional DC standards, he is Mother Theresa.
Oh really?



We checked an archive of presidential tax returns maintained by the Tax Analysts, a publisher specializing in
tax policy. It shows that going back to 1976, all but one major-party nominee released at least one return.


https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/st ... years-not/



40 years, and only Donald is unable to release his tax records.
lol

But yeah, I'm sure he's "Mother Theresa" by DC standards.



Pull your head out any day, dude.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:50 am
by Kierland
88 wrote:
Kierland wrote:You voted for Don the Con and have yet to admit what a huge mistake that was. Your “rational” take on 2020 is, like you, a fucking joke.
You voted for a unicorn. Eat more dick.
I voted for a person. You voted for the Insane Clown President. Pull your head out of your ass.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:02 am
by Kierland
88 wrote:
Softball Bat wrote:Trump himself is a cesspool.
Actually, he is a lying, insecure, tone deaf douchebag. But by conventional DC standards, he is Mother Theresa. Don’t you have some globes to iron?
That is such horseshit. Unless by MT you meant Mary Tutor.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:12 am
by Softball Bat
Don locks down his tax returns.

We've already seen that multiple people directly attached to (or chosen by) Donald are guilty of crimes.

Man Fart, for just one example.

Don chose this POS to run his campaign.

Why?


Cohen, the POS.
For years he was Don's man.

Why?


But conservatards like .088 keep wanting to believe that Donald is the clean one.

Wtf??


Simply amazing.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:17 pm
by Kierland
It wasn’t a choice between two people.
You are not a Libertarian if you voted for Trump.
You SHOULD be ashamed of yourself.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:40 pm
by Goober McTuber
88 wrote:Bernie is a doofus. Trump would have stomped a Dukakis sized mud hole in him if She hadn’t prevailed.
Before Hilary got the nomination, polls showed Bernie would beat Trump by a wider margin than Hilary would. Yes, polls wound up wrong on Hilary, other than the popular vote.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:26 pm
by Goober McTuber
Is Trump fucked? We may know sooner rather than later.
Throughout his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election, special counsel Robert Mueller has imposed on his team an ironclad rule: nobody leaks and nobody speaks -- out of court, that is. But when it comes to official court filings -- indictments, plea agreements, sentencing memos -- Mueller has been loquacious and at times downright chatty, disclosing in compelling narrative fashion crucial details about his investigation and tantalizing clues about what might happen next.

This week, Mueller is due to make three crucial court filings -- sentencing memos for Michael Flynn, Michael Cohen and Paul Manafort. Each document will tell us something important about what the future holds for these defendants and, more importantly, about what Mueller knows and where he might be headed. By the end of this week, we will know much more about the strength of Mueller's hand and the threat his investigation poses to President Donald Trump and his administration.


Michael Flynn

Ever since his December 2017 guilty plea, Flynn has been something of a mystery man. Trump's former national security adviser, Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn falsely told the FBI he had not asked Kislyak to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the outgoing Obama administration had imposed on Russia.

Flynn pleaded guilty via a cooperation agreement, which means that Mueller now knows everything that Flynn knows. Yet Mueller has not made any moves or brought any new charges that are obviously based on Flynn's cooperation.

The only clue we have gotten is that Mueller has postponed Flynn's sentencing four times. Mueller has explained to the court that the postponements were necessary "due to the status of the special counsel's investigation." Translation: we are still using Flynn as a cooperator against somebody. Flynn's attorney added further intrigue, announcing that "General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,"

Now we should finally hear that story. Flynn is set for sentencing on December 18, and Mueller's sentencing memo is due this Tuesday, December 4. That submission should answer one fundamental question about Flynn: what the heck has this guy been up to? Does Flynn, who held high-level positions in the campaign and administration, know about crimes committed by members of Trump's team? Did Flynn consult with Trump or others on his conversations with Kislyak about Russian sanctions, or about Flynn's false statements to the FBI about those sanctions? Did Flynn speak with Trump about other foreign policy issues, and were Trump's positions ever improperly influenced? Has Mueller used Flynn's information in bringing charges against any others, or might we see additional charges forthcoming?

One thing is certain: much of the mystery surrounding Flynn, and his cooperation with Mueller, is finally about to be solved.


Michael Cohen

Cohen's sentencing memo, filed last week in the Southern District of New York ("SDNY"), lobbed two grenades in Trump's direction -- one right at him and another close by. The direct hit came in Cohen's assertion that he "participated in planning discussions" with Trump regarding hush money payments to Stephanie Clifford and Karen McDougal, and that Cohen paid Clifford "in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump (as Cohen previously stated under oath when he pleaded guilty in August to campaign finance violations).

If true -- and the Wall Street Journal recently published an investigative piece containing extensive corroboration for Cohen's contentions -- then Trump almost certainly participated in a violation of federal campaign finance law. When Cohen pleaded guilty, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said "the President in this matter has done nothing wrong, and there are no charges against him."

The indirect damage arises from Cohen's assertion in the memo that he lied to Congress about the timing of Trump's efforts to build a tower in Moscow "to support and advance (Trump's) political messaging." Cohen claims that he "remained in close contact with White House staff and counsel to (Trump)" about the Moscow project and his testimony to Congress. Cohen stops short of saying that he lied at Trump's direction or that he discussed his false testimony with Trump. Nonetheless, Cohen's false testimony to Congress poses political problems for Trump (who repeatedly and falsely denied that he had business dealings with Russia during a time when he plainly did, according to Cohen) and criminal problems for anyone in the White House who advised or encouraged Cohen to testify falsely. Anyone else who testified falsely to Congress about the timing of the Moscow project could be in Mueller's line of fire as well.

The big question remaining is whether Mueller will agree with Cohen's account of his own conduct. The smart bet is that he will. Cohen's lead attorney, Guy Petrillo, is a widely respected veteran of the SDNY with an impeccable reputation for candor. (Disclosure: Petrillo was a colleague and supervisor of mine at the SDNY). Petrillo knows how the cooperation process works; there is little chance he would make an assertion in a sentencing memo to a stern judge unless he knew that prosecutors would sign onto it.

If Mueller and the SDNY do concur with Cohen's version of the facts -- particularly on the campaign finance violation -- then we will have, officially, federal prosecutors stating on the record that the President has committed a federal offense -- causing an unlawful corporate campaign contribution and excessive campaign contribution.


Paul Manafort

This one should be the main event. Last week, Mueller dropped a bombshell when he notified a federal judge that Manafort had breached his cooperation agreement by lying repeatedly to federal prosecutors and agents "on a variety of subject matters." Mueller told the judge he would "file a detailed sentencing submission ... in advance of sentencing that sets forth the nature of the defendant's crimes and lies, including those after signing the plea agreement."

Mueller is due to file that sentencing memo by Friday, December 7, and it promises to be a barnburner. Mueller has promised to lay it all out: the specifics of Manafort's lies and the proof establishing the truth of the underlying matters. We do not yet know specifically what Manafort lied about, but we will learn this week.

Based on my own experience as a federal and state prosecutor, cooperators most often get in trouble because they lie by omission. They leave out facts that would incriminate themselves, or others they want to protect. Cooperation in the federal system typically is all-or-nothing. Cooperators do not get to pick and choose what information they provide to prosecutors, or who they cooperate against -- and when they try to do so, the cooperation blows apart.

Here, Manafort might have lied in an effort to protect himself. He might have illicit money stashed away that he did not want to turn over to Mueller, or he might have committed other crimes that he did not want to admit. Both are common scenarios.

Manafort also likely failed to tell Mueller about crimes that other people committed. Cooperators do this for various reasons: personal or familial relationships, fear of reprisal, or a belief that they will be rewarded. By lying to Mueller, Manafort took a reckless gamble and put himself in a tenuous position. At 69 years old, he now faces a sentence likely to keep him locked up for the rest of his life. Whoever Manafort tried to protect, he believed it was worth it to take the risk of dying behind bars (or -- perhaps -- that that person might pardon him).

We know that Mueller knows Manafort lied, and we know that Mueller will prove those lies to the court "in detail" in his filing this week. We soon should know who Manafort tried to protect, what crimes those people committed with Manafort (or to Manafort's knowledge), and what proof Mueller has of those crimes. This is going to get interesting, and soon.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:46 am
by Softball Bat
It is all very predictable.
It will get very very ugly in the days ahead.



Drumpf puts himself and his own self-interests above all else, including the country.

You should know this.

If you don't, now would be a good time to have your -----> epiphany.


- poptart (6/16/18)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48838&p=966238&hili ... wn#p966238

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:39 am
by atmdad
Softball Bat wrote:It is all very predictable.
It will get very very ugly in the days ahead.



Drumpf puts himself and his own self-interests above all else, including the country.

You should know this.

If you don't, now would be a good time to have your -----> epiphany.


- poptart (6/16/18)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48838&p=966238&hili ... wn#p966238
There is only one choice of who to follow, getting all worked up about what is going on here is silly. I'm sure you agree D.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:18 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Jsc810 wrote:Trump asks Comey for leniency on Flynn. Comey says no, gets fired. Mueller takes over the investigation, gives leniency to Flynn.

Trump is going to be happy, right?

Hello?
Good call. I'm not sure either what we'll see on Twitter: Trump lauding Flynn or crushing him. Bottom line: Flynn had some of the most damning info, so good for him for squealing like a pigeon.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:03 pm
by Mikey
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) wrote:....I am a Tariff Man. When people or countries come in to raid the great wealth of our Nation, I want them to pay for the privilege of doing so. It will always be the best way to max out our economic power. We are right now taking in $billions in Tariffs. MAKE AMERICA RICH AGAIN
Image

The thing that this moron still doesn't get is that it's not "people or other countries" that pay for these tariffs, but the American consumer.
@dumbassDonaldTrump

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:09 pm
by Softball Bat
The president is melting down on Twitter this morning.

Well, I mean melting down more than usual.

Much more, actually.


Six lengthy tweets about Mueller so far.

I won't post 'em.

Read them here if you care to -----> https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:29 am
by FiatLux
Trump

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:19 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Accountability is coming, and it's coming very soon.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:30 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:Accountability is coming, and it's coming very soon.
You libtards have been crowing about this for quite some time now. Can you nail the date down a bit closer so we can all put it in our calendars so we do not miss it ??

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 am
by Softball Bat
Unfortunately, many (or most) "conservatives" have shown what they really are.

Donald obviously should have been disavowed a very long time ago.





#pathetic

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:12 am
by FiatLux
Trump

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:57 am
by Smackie Chan
FiatLux wrote:Trump
We get it. You're retarded. No more advertising needed.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:15 am
by Softball Bat
You are either delusional, or you have no idea what is going on.

Cohen has spilled it for Mueller -- perhaps 70 hours of meeting time.
https://www.wired.com/story/michael-coh ... mp-moscow/

Then there is Manafort.
There is Flynn.
And Allen Weisselberg.

You seriously think all Mueller has on Trump is something the equivalent of lying under oath??

lol


Sorry...
Per the thread title, Trump is fucked.



My own read on things now is that Donald is seriously considering firing Mueller.

All of his wack tweets and public comments on the investigation put forth the theme that the investigation itself is not a legitimate thing.
Appears that he is trying to sell his delusional base the idea that it is fine to fire Mueller on that basis.

Trying to garner enough support on this idea so that if/when he pulls the plug on Mueller (before Mueller can issue his report), a fairly substantial segment of the U.S. people will back him on the firing.


Basically, Trump is shittin' bricks and has no positive direction in which to move.

Fuct.

And at any rate, there could very well be a significant indictment(s) any day now.



I fear for the country.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:53 pm
by Screw_Michigan
It's hilarious to watch Trump ball lickers like the ones who populate this board do mental gymnastics to try to ignore the obvious or justify voting for such a piss dribbling sack of shit. Trump knowingly COLLUDED and CONSPIRED with one of our nation's adversary to tip the election in his favor, all the while trying to secure a lucrative land deal to build in Moscow. And he all but admitted it throughout the election. "Russia, if you can hear me, release the emails..."

Yet they still voted for this charlatan and fraud because they were deluded into believing that the worst person on the face of the earth was Shrillary. These people are the most selfish people in America. And they're gonna get exactly what they deserved.

Trump voters should be deported for crimes against America.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:09 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Trump voters should be deported for crimes against America.
Brilliant idea. Get rid of the majority of the people who voted for him so you libtards can have your socialist mecca. Good thing the libtards are all a bunch of bleeding pussies who want to take guns away, because if they had any balls and weapons they might be able to try it. But they don't have balls and they hate weapons, so the security of the Republic will be safe, so the ANTIFA's can continue to burn shit and throw rocks and they will be summarily crushed like pesky bugs.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:16 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Derron wrote:majority of the people who voted for him
WRONG

The GOP is electorally dead. You are a minority in this nation. The majority has rejected your racist, hateful, selfish platform and the only way for you to maintain any sort of influence is to subvert democracy.

Fuck you and your ilk.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:25 pm
by Derron
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Derron wrote:majority of the people who voted for him
WRONG

The GOP is electorally dead. You are a minority in this nation. The majority has rejected your racist, hateful, selfish platform and the only way for you to maintain any s ort of influence is to subvert democracy.

Fuck you and your ilk.
TRUMP IS POTUS !!! TRUMP IS POTUS !!! Fuck yeah !!! Suck it bitch ....

Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation,
Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.
Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperation
In proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.

Yours is the aim to make this grand country grander,
This you will do, that is our strong, firm belief.
Hail to the one we selected as commander,
Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!

4 more years, 4 more years, 4 more years,4 more years !!!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AIAKVst7jw

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by Bucmonkey
Papa Willie wrote:
FiatLux wrote:Trump
This is all I need to see.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:29 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Screw_Michigan wrote:Trump knowingly COLLUDED and CONSPIRED with one of our nation's adversary to tip the election in his favor shove a red-hot dick up ISIS' sphincter and derail the Clinton/McCain/Netanyahu/Susan Powers/Soros plan to leave Syria in a pile of smouldering ash...
ftfy

Seriously, I hope the Pentagon can get a partial return on their deposit for Al Queda's/ISIS heavy weapons. That stuff ain't cheap.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:16 am
by Diego in Seattle
How fucked is Trump?

Here's a great explanation....

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/stat ... 0010815489

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:43 am
by Dinsdale
Diego in Seattle wrote:How fucked is Trump?

Here's a great explanation....

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/stat ... 0010815489
His first sentence:
Everyone has some area of expertise. Mine is in corporate crime.
And then goes on a long-winded rant about election laws.

I'm neither defending nor condemning Trump, but this guy did a great job of KHOA.

I haven't seen anything that shows that Trump willfully violated campaign laws (not saying it didn't happen). Unless there's proof he knowingly did so, it's a civil offense, and not a crime, punishable by fine. Certainly not a "high crime or misdemeanor."

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:02 am
by Screw_Michigan
Dinsdale wrote: I haven't seen anything that shows that Trump willfully violated campaign laws (not saying it didn't happen). Unless there's proof he knowingly did so, it's a civil offense, and not a crime, punishable by fine. Certainly not a "high crime or misdemeanor."
Trump is accused of felonies. There is no such thing as a civil felony, asswipe.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:04 am
by Diego in Seattle
Dinsdale wrote:I haven't seen anything that shows that Trump willfully violated campaign laws (not saying it didn't happen). Unless there's proof he knowingly did so, it's a civil offense, and not a crime, punishable by fine. Certainly not a "high crime or misdemeanor."
Do you really think that $460,000 was spent by the Trump organization w/o his knowledge & consent?

And how would others even know to pay off Daniels & McDougal if he hadn't told of his schtupping them?

He knew of the payments, and what they were for.

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Image

Re: Trump is fucked

Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:20 am
by Dinsdale
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Trump is accused of felonies. There is no such thing as a civil felony, asswipe.
By a couple of people who are about as sane as you. Reading is your friend... you should try reading what I wrote, rather than what you wish I wrote. I can help you with any multisyllabic words, if need be.
Diego in Seattle wrote: And how would others even know to pay off Daniels & McDougal if he hadn't told of his schtupping them?

He knew of the payments, and what they were for.
So, you are privy to some corroboration? You should get thyself to Screweyland, STAT!!!! If you don't think campaigns insulate with "plausible denialbilty," then you're a fucking rube.

Jsc810 wrote:I don't handle criminal cases' but I don't think that willfulness is an element of the crime
We have something in common -- neither do I. Guess what -- Obama was busted for campaign violations, and fined heavily. I don't recall you calling for his head. He was never accused of a crime because... he was unaware that he was party to illegal activity. Jeebuz, crack a book/newspaper. There's tomes discussing the legalities these days.

I have no idea how things will turn out -- if he committed crimes, then turf the douche. I won't shed a tear nor a shit. Didn't like the guy 30 years ago, don't like him now, and didn't vote for him. But the TDS sufferers are providing great entertainment with their newfound blend of legal-expertise, hand-wringing, weeping, and general dipshittery.