Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:54 pm
Additional thought...
Who were the moronic local politicians who allowed the PP area to become so high-density that they couldn't evacuate the area w/or major traffic jams nor could they maintain a water system that can provide a sufficient enough supply of water, even during times of obligatory maintenance downtimes?
To answer the rhetorical question... Greed head developers and slime politicians who can be bought off cheap.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:22 pm
by Diego in Seattle
Wolfman wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:24 pm
A granddaughter and her husband, living in Encino have evacuated and moved to safety with friends in a safer area. I thought it was being contained.
Wildfires evolve as conditions change. As I understand it the fire is currently moving in a northward direction. Roughly guessing the fire is approx 1-2 miles south of the 101.
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:54 pm
Additional thought...
Who were the moronic local politicians who allowed the PP area to become so high-density that they couldn't evacuate the area w/or major traffic jams nor could they maintain a water system that can provide a sufficient enough supply of water, even during times of obligatory maintenance downtimes?
To answer the rhetorical question... Greed head developers and slime politicians who can be bought off cheap.
Nailed it.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:49 pm
by Diego in Seattle
The forecast for Encino tonight is for wind gusts up to 40mph.
Damn Newsome for not controlling the wind!
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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:56 pm
by Softball Bat
Palisades Fire 8% contained
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:07 pm
by mvscal
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:56 pmPalisades Fire 8% contained
Softball Bat wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:56 pmPalisades Fire 8% contained
The local reservoir 100% empty.
Thanks for the simplistic take, imbecile.
It's not rocket science. It's basic math.
LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires
The $750,000-a-year LA water czar is responsible for a raft of failures that contributed to the devastating Palisades Fire, fire department insiders told DailyMail.com. On Mayor Karen Bass's orders, the city maxed out its budget to 'attract private-sector talent', hiring Department of Water and Power (LADWP) CEO Janisse Quiñones on a $750,000 salary in May – almost double that of her predecessor.
Now, Quiñones is being blamed by LA Fire Department (LAFD) insiders for leaving a nearby reservoir disconnected and fire hydrants broken for months, DailyMail.com can reveal, leading to firefighters running out of water as they battled the devastating Palisades Fire this week.
And, Daily Mail.com has learned, Quiñones past employer is also linked to fire scandals. She was previously a top executive at electricity company PG&E, which went bankrupt over liability for several massive wildfires in California. She served as senior vice president at Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) from 2021 to 2023. The utility company's power lines sparked the second-largest wildfire in California history, Dixie, in 2021. Its involvement in the 2018 Camp Fire cost PG&E a $13.5billion legal settlement. The firm's liability for allegedly causing fires was estimated at $30billion when it filed for bankruptcy in 2018. It exited bankruptcy in 2020.
Quiñones joined PG&E in April 2021 as Senior Vice President of Gas Engineering, switched to Senior Vice President of Electric Operations in July 2022, and left the firm in December 2023.
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"peaceful transition of power"....Or, fuck the voters and their mandate.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:32 pm
by The Seer
Nicole Shanahan slams 'climate doomsayers', says California water problems are due to government failures not drought
Former running mate to independent ex-presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Nichole Shanahan, has sounded off on those who are blaming the lack of water amid the California wildfires on climate change. Shanahan cited that the state has not been in drought since 2022 and said that it has been government officials failing the people of California.
Shanahan posted, "For all you climate change doomsayers: California has been OUT of a drought since 2022. We’ve seen record rainfall, yet the CA Dept of Water Resources, big city mayors, and the governor have failed to use that water to increase ground hydration and strengthen emergency fire services."
"They looked the other way despite warnings from universities, fire departments, farmers, and consultants offering actionable plans. It’s mind-boggling negligence. The government in California has been taking orders from the wrong people for too long. It’s time they wake up, grow a pair, and get to work for the people," she added. According to Forbes, forecasters expect the drought to stay through 2025.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:40 pm
by mvscal
dan's college room mate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:08 pm
I’ll bet she got to that position solely because of talent and hard work.
And maybe just a tiny bit of dick sucking.
She’s pretty much the Kamala Harris of the public utility world.
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She should have been out there suck starting fire hydrants instead of bull dykes at city hall.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:51 pm
by FiatLux
Stay focused.
Keep praying. I prayed for more wind.
The job's not done.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:59 pm
by Meat Head
FiatLux wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:51 pm
Stay focused.
Keep praying. I prayed for more wind.
The job's not done.
The only thing you prey on are the lesser infected asses of frisco.
LA's $750k-a-year water chief Janisse Quiñones 'knew about empty reservoir and broken hydrants' months before fires
The $750,000-a-year LA water czar is responsible for a raft of failures that contributed to the devastating Palisades Fire, fire department insiders told DailyMail.com. On Mayor Karen Bass's orders, the city maxed out its budget to 'attract private-sector talent', hiring Department of Water and Power (LADWP) CEO Janisse Quiñones on a $750,000 salary in May – almost double that of her predecessor.
Now, Quiñones is being blamed by LA Fire Department (LAFD) insiders for leaving a nearby reservoir disconnected and fire hydrants broken for months, DailyMail.com can reveal, leading to firefighters running out of water as they battled the devastating Palisades Fire this week.
And, Daily Mail.com has learned, Quiñones past employer is also linked to fire scandals. She was previously a top executive at electricity company PG&E, which went bankrupt over liability for several massive wildfires in California. She served as senior vice president at Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) from 2021 to 2023. The utility company's power lines sparked the second-largest wildfire in California history, Dixie, in 2021. Its involvement in the 2018 Camp Fire cost PG&E a $13.5billion legal settlement. The firm's liability for allegedly causing fires was estimated at $30billion when it filed for bankruptcy in 2018. It exited bankruptcy in 2020.
Quiñones joined PG&E in April 2021 as Senior Vice President of Gas Engineering, switched to Senior Vice President of Electric Operations in July 2022, and left the firm in December 2023.
Surprise, surprise, surprise! Another stupid, incompetent whore.
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So when is a good time to empty reservoirs for maintenance in California, dumbshit?
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:12 am
by Left Seater
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:46 am
So go ahead tell us Mr California Wildfire Expert....when should reservoirs be taken offline to perform necessary maintenance?
Do you even think before you mash your keyboard trying to defend all things liberal?
Reservoirs can be built where they don’t need to be taken offline for maintenance. There are things called lakes and retention / detention ponds that never come out of service.
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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:47 am
by trevvie
Newsome and the super majority are taking a huge hit for this debacle. I think this will be Newsome's demise. Finally.
Mikey and Diego can defend them but it's on the leaders that this went so poorly.
Don't blah blah blah me, I've had enough.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:41 am
by HighPlainsGrifter
trev gets it.
Adam Carolla tried to become a firefighter. He was told that, as a while male, he would be put him on a 7 year waiting list. He took other jobs to get him by and stayed on the wait list. Finally the day came and he stood in line to take the assessment. It was on a Thursday. In line behind him was a black woman. Out of curiosity, he asked the woman how long she'd been on the wait list. She applied the previous Tuesday.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:46 am
by Carson
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:41 am
It was on a Thursday. In line behind him was a black woman. Out of curiosity, he asked the woman how long she'd been on the wait list. She applied the previous Tuesday.
...and she was waiting for cheese.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:06 am
by FiatLux
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:41 am
Adam Carolla tried to become a firefighter. He was told that, as a while male, he would be put him on a 7 year waiting list.
Adam Carolla tried to become a firefighter. He was told that, as a while male, he would be put him on a 7 year waiting list. He took other jobs to get him by and stayed on the wait list. Finally the day came and he stood in line to take the assessment. It was on a Thursday. In line behind him was a black woman. Out of curiosity, he asked the woman how long she'd been on the wait list. She applied the previous Tuesday.
I'm sure glad that minorities haven't had to wait for job offers that never came (in spite of being qualified).
I'm sure glad that there's no discrimination against minorities going on in this day & age.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:19 pm
by Left Seater
The whataboutism is strong in Diego. In fact it is about all he has in this thread.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:57 pm
by Mikey
trevvie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:47 am
Newsome and the super majority are taking a huge hit for this debacle. I think this will be Newsome's demise. Finally.
Mikey and Diego can defend them but it's on the leaders that this went so poorly.
Don't blah blah blah me, I've had enough.
Climb back into your hole, ignorant skank. First of all, it’s Newsom, not “Newsome.” Second, he’ll be gone in two years no matter what happens today. But you’re too thick to get the concept “term limits” I guess. I’m no big fan of NEWSOM but, contrary to what you and your alcohol damaged brain might think, he doesn’t control the weather.
Adam Carolla tried to become a firefighter. He was told that, as a while male, he would be put him on a 7 year waiting list. He took other jobs to get him by and stayed on the wait list. Finally the day came and he stood in line to take the assessment. It was on a Thursday. In line behind him was a black woman. Out of curiosity, he asked the woman how long she'd been on the wait list. She applied the previous Tuesday.
I'm sure glad that minorities haven't had to wait for job offers that never came (in spite of being qualified).
I'm sure glad that there's no discrimination against minorities going on in this day & age.
No one denies that there is a HISTORY of discrimination against balck folks. I guess you belong in the moronic club of people who think we need a period of reverse discrimination to even up the score. Can you at least admit that that is your view?
As for actual discrimination going on today, and I am talking about actual rather than imaginary, it is primarily aimed at white, hetero males. Period.
Blacks who do the things that anyone has to do to be successful, are successful.
Where blacks do have a disadvantage today is that a black man that actually is competent, will have to deal with a perception that he's simply an affirmative action hire. That has to be tough.
So how do we address this problem?
How about maybe we stop discriminating and get to hiring based solely on ability. This won't solve deep rooted problems immediately, but nothing will.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:18 pm
by HighHard1
This shit just 'burns' me up. Has nothing to do with DEI, wokeism, etc., but with the Fire Industrial Complex. Fighting wildland fire has become a billion dollar business, not so much for the men and women slogging it out there on the firelines, but for the support who serve meals, sell gear and clothing, set up temporary housing, showers, etc. NFS has sold out, begging for budget dollars for firefighting rather than doing the job they should be doing to mitigate fire by controlled burns, thinning and dare I say the L word...LOGGING. This is not some sort of revelation, the aforementioned management solutions have been used by the NFS and state agencies for over a hundred years. Fires happen, no way to stop that, but the severity of fires has increased because we're not managing wildlands to mitigate their severity. And if you want to snivel, "but, but, but climate change,"...fine, then manage wildlands for climate change and get out there and do the job of managing MY FUCKING LAND. (yours as well fukkos)
When viewing videos of the California fires, I'm stunned how much dry brush and trees go right up up in the properties and are even entwined in and among the properties. Fire Mitigation 101 in/around cabins and building is forest land is clearing out burnables that can lead to a structure fire. A considerable amount of time/effort is spent by fire crews clearing out brush, cutting trees, raking pine needles near structures, setting up sprinklers-work that homeowners should have done themselves. Given the history of fires in California, weather conditions this time of year and the value of these homes, hard to believe that more hasn't been done to mitigate fires there.
My family has owned property in NE Washington-now an 80 acre 'tree farm,' since the 1960's. On a mountain above the property, on NFS land, you can see where spruce bud worm and pine beetles have killed large stands of trees-easy to spot the 'graying' of the trees, you can literally chart the progress of death annually. Shit should be removed, salvaged, sold for firewood or chip, but it won't be and sooner or later it will burn, those standing trees will go off like roman candles. Easy to see how that fire will burn through our property. I wonder at what point private landowners or just regular people can successfully sue the NFS and other state agencies for malfeasance in management of OUR FUCKING LAND.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:32 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Personally, I'd just run around with my hands in the air and scream 'Oh my God, it's a fire!'
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:46 pm
by Dr_Phibes
Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:40 pm
I'm sure glad that there's no discrimination against minorities going on in this day & age.
So let's turn the tables here. Shout racial slurs at the fire, throw it off balance.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:04 pm
by FiatLux
Dr_Phibes wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:46 pm
Shout racial slurs at the fire, throw it off balance.
Don't you fucking dare!
We're almost there.
Where Dumbfuckstanians couldn't drain the The Swamp on January 6th.
Americans are going to drain The Desert.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:44 pm
by HighPlainsGrifter
HighHard1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:18 pm
This shit just 'burns' me up. Has nothing to do with DEI, wokeism, etc., but with the Fire Industrial Complex.
No and yes, in that order. The Fire Industrial Complex is a self-sustaining entity and it's a huge problem but the FIC isn't creating timderboxes. The FIC profits from poor
forestry and have no interest in recommending anything else but ladder-fuel-laden tinderboxes come from the same emotion-driven mindset that gives us DEI and Woke Bullshit.
It's the mind virus that says,
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be a unique and special flower?
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could be their authentic true selves and redefine "gender" into 147+ microcosmic descriptions? And wouldn't it be compassionate if government violated free speech rights of the majority of people in service of protecting that minority from being offended?
Wouldn't it be nice if minorities had access to high level positions in corporations and governments? And if so, wouldn't it be a societal requirement to force feed unqualified but sufficiently diverse people into these companies and agencies?
Wouldn't it be nice if no one was ever offended or intimidated by words they don't like?
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone got the same medical procedure? And wouldn't it be compassionate to mandate it so grandma doesn't die alone while her family mourns at a distance behind a fence?
Wouldn't it be nice if we stopped hunting animals?
Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in harmony with nature like native Americans?
Wouldn't it be nice if the forests were pure and pristine like they used to be?
Fantasy lands of idealism are the playgrounds of the immature. In a properly functioning family, a father lets kids have their fantasy but he makes sure it stays in their heads and does not infect the real world. A lack of fathers in the home has given us several generations of adults whom think they can manifest fantasy into reality if they have enough power and Other People's Money. This is highly prevalent in one party rule Democrat Shitholes... errr... "Coastal Paradises". The halls of government in California suffer a catastrophic dearth of adults in the room. There are not enough voices with the intestinal fortitude to say, "No. Fuck your feelings. That is not going to work."
Forest mismanagement is a direct product of the kind of "Wouldn't it be nice..." fantasyland that gives us Woke Bullshit and DEI. All branches of the same tree. Gloriously, that tree is on fucking fire right now. I'm here to see it.
Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:05 pm
by dan's college room mate
Meat Head wrote:
FiatLux wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:51 pm
Stay focused.
Keep praying. I prayed for more wind.
The job's not done.
The only thing you prey on are the lesser infected asses of frisco.
Now that’s utter bullshit.
Everyone knows he is an equal opportunity frisco ass preyer.
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Re: Fire in Pacific Palisades
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:35 pm
by mvscal
HighPlainsGrifter wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:41 am
It was on a Thursday. In line behind him was a black woman. Out of curiosity, he asked the woman how long she'd been on the wait list. She applied the previous Tuesday.
Fantasy lands of idealism are the playgrounds of the immature. In a properly functioning family, a father lets kids have their fantasy but he makes sure it stays in their heads and does not infect the real world. A lack of fathers in the home has given us several generations of adults whom think they can manifest fantasy into reality if they have enough power and Other People's Money. This is highly prevalent in one party rule Democrat Shitholes... errr... "Coastal Paradises". The halls of government in California suffer a catastrophic dearth of adults in the room. There are not enough voices with the intestinal fortitude to say, "No. Fuck your feelings. That is not going to work."
Forest mismanagement is a direct product of the kind of "Wouldn't it be nice..." fantasyland that gives us Woke Bullshit and DEI. All branches of the same tree. Gloriously, that tree is on fucking fire right now. I'm here to see it.
Thanks, Dad (it's OK if I call you Dad, right?) for blessing us with your fatherly wisdom about places that you've never lived or probably even been to. I'm sure you put a lot of effort into this.
Just one question...WTF does any of this have to do with the current situation in Pacific Palisades, Altadena, the Hollywood Hills, or any other area that's been burning in California? They are not forests.
Fantasy lands of idealism are the playgrounds of the immature. In a properly functioning family, a father lets kids have their fantasy but he makes sure it stays in their heads and does not infect the real world. A lack of fathers in the home has given us several generations of adults whom think they can manifest fantasy into reality if they have enough power and Other People's Money. This is highly prevalent in one party rule Democrat Shitholes... errr... "Coastal Paradises". The halls of government in California suffer a catastrophic dearth of adults in the room. There are not enough voices with the intestinal fortitude to say, "No. Fuck your feelings. That is not going to work."
Forest mismanagement is a direct product of the kind of "Wouldn't it be nice..." fantasyland that gives us Woke Bullshit and DEI. All branches of the same tree. Gloriously, that tree is on fucking fire right now. I'm here to see it.
Thanks, Dad (it's OK if I call you Dad, right?) for blessing us with your fatherly wisdom about places that you've never lived or probably even been to. I'm sure you put a lot of effort into this.
Just one question...WTF does any of this have to do with the current situation in Pacific Palisades, Altadena, the Hollywood Hills, or any other area that's been burning in California? They are not forests.
High Plaid Grunter wants to start logging the Torrey Pine trees....you know, just in case.
