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Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:13 pm
by Van
Yeah, but would people living in Detroit even notice if the power went down?

:popcorn:

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:21 pm
by lovebuzz
Van wrote:Yeah, but would people living in Detroit even notice if the power went down?

:popcorn:
Can't say for sure because Grosse Pointe and straight up Lake St. Clair was my hood.
They probably do.
The shit goes dead even when you're stealing it, eh ?
Chicken wire all soldered up from the pole to your crib, yo.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:24 pm
by Mikey
lovebuzz wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Mikey wrote:55 million customers in the norteast US and Ontario in 2003

7 whole hours?
Actually, that was almost 24 hours in the NE suburbs (read: not black, not ghetto, not unwashed Arab, so save it) of Detroilet.

ps: i'm not bagging on the grid/aligning myself with Felix. I'm simply stating that it wasn't 7 hours for me.
It was fun - - neighbors being neighborly, grills ablaze, libations consumed.
All in all, we had a real good time.
Yeah, we had fun too when the lights went out in San Diego last year, at least after the two extra hours it took to get home from work. Took some steaks out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of red and dined by starlight.

Thing is, the economic damage of the NE outage is estimated at $5 billion to $10 billion. But...it only lasted 7 hours and there are no guarantees in life, right? And what's $10 billion between friends?
I mean, come on we live in the US, what do you expect...a reliable electric grid? You want reliabilty go buy a fucking Honda generator for backup.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:41 pm
by lovebuzz
Mikey wrote:Yeah, we had fun too when the lights went out in San Diego last year, at least after the two extra hours it took to get home from work. Took some steaks out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of red and dined by starlight.

Thing is, the economic damage of the NE outage is estimated at $5 billion to $10 billion. But...it only lasted 7 hours and there are no guarantees in life, right? And what's $10 billion between friends?
I mean, come on we live in the US, what do you expect...a reliable electric grid? You want reliabilty go buy a fucking Honda generator for backup.

Good on ya, Mikey. Same here, took me approximately 4 hours to make a typically 20 - 25 min commute. Whole bunch of assholes on the roads, panicking and trying to buy as much petrol, bread, milk and meat as possible. Kind of like they do when there are snow flurries that apparently mean "blizzard." People are strange.

All was well when I arrived home and I did make the best of it. Simple living, high thinking and all.

i did buy a generator, though not a Honda and ps: i do know how to operate that bad boy. thing is crazy loud. pretty sure the neighbors aren't down.

i do expect a reliable electric grid and i don't happen to think we have an entirely reliable one in this country.
10 years in/around Detroit and 1 fun, little tornado in STL last year shattered any illusion there.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:32 am
by mvscal
lovebuzz wrote:i do expect a reliable electric grid and i don't happen to think we have an entirely reliable one in this country.
10 years in/around Detroit and 1 fun, little tornado in STL last year shattered any illusion there.
You might have a different opinion if you weren't living in some of the worst shitholes in the country.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:35 am
by lovebuzz
Hiya pissypants.

I like it when you dissect my posts with a fine tooth comb.
I feel the lurve.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:10 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Mikey wrote:Took some steaks out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of red and dined by starlight.
You ate a bag of Doritos with some Diet Frescas. Stop lying, fat-ass.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:20 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Mikey wrote:Took some Steak-ums out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of Mountain Dew Code Red and dined by starlight.
:paul: :paul: :paul:

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:59 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Mikey wrote:Took some Steak-ums out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of Mountain Dew Code Red and dined by starlight.
:paul: :paul: :paul:
^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is also an acceptable "ftfy".

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:02 am
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Mikey wrote:Took some steaks out of the freezer, grilled them up, opened a bottle of red and dined by starlight.

Opened a can of "Tactical Bacon" and fought my fugly wife for the last can of Keystone Light...then fired off an angry missive to Marty on T1B because he is in my dome.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:20 pm
by Felix
Dinsdale wrote:

One of the great lefty talking points... the United States has BY FAR the best, most reliable electric grid on earth. Remind me of all those times entire regions went without electricity for an extended time that didn't involve a massive natural disaster?
sure thing....back in september of 2011 a maintenance worker at the North Gila substation, near Yuma, Arizona was performing routine maintenance at a substation, short-circuited some equipment and caused an adjacent 500 kV transmission line to trip which in turn resulted in a cascading failure across the entire southwestern United States and cost an estimated 100 million dollars by the time the lights came back on.....in 2003 a power line falling against a few trees in Northern Ohio caused a massive power failure that affected eight Northeastern states, Canada, and 50 million people, four downed power lines overburdened the other functioning power lines, resulting in a domino effect leading to largest blackout in North American history—one that contributed to 11 deaths, and cost $6 billion in damages....neither were natural disasters...our centralized power system is based on 100 year old thinking....
But if you repeat the phrase "crumbling infrastructure" enough times, the Sheeple will eventually believe it. A giant lie to bilk current AND future taxpayers out of their money, while fixing precisely nothing.
your knowledge of the infrastructure of this country is dumbfounding
our highways are falling apart at the seams, yet you don't have a clue....our bridges are falling apart (as evidenced by the bridge failure in minnesota).....

nice "no response" any the other questions I posed.....

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:34 pm
by Diego in Seattle
According to Duncedale a vehicle with tires possessing tread measuring 1/56th of an inch doesn't need new tires because it hasn't blown a tire or become involved in an accident rate.

Brilliant.

Would it have been acceptable to you if your metropolis had lost power for "only", say, ten hours during the last week? No big deal if some seniors kick the bucket due to an inability to stay cool and/or get to a cooling center...right?

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:51 pm
by Truman
Felix wrote:
nice "no response" any the other questions I posed.....
I suppose one would have to accept the actual premise of your questions first in order to address them.

Conservatives do not look to the Fed to solve our problems. Conservatives look to the Fed to stay the fuck out of 'em. In 10 years of message-boarding with folks who don't think like you, one woulda thought you mighta picked up on that by now...

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:59 pm
by Dinsdale
Diego in Seattle wrote:Would it have been acceptable to you if your metropolis had lost power for "only", say, ten hours during the last week?

In my metropolis/region, we have these utility board people, and they approve/disapprove upgrades, and plan to avoid disasters.

They're fairly good at it.

See how that works? We don't need Big Brother stealing from folks in New Hampshire to keep our power grid up and running.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:24 pm
by Truman
Diego in Seattle wrote:Would it have been acceptable to you if your metropolis had lost power for "only", say, ten hours during the last week?
We've had power outages that have lasted 10 days, Amigo.

They were the result of a phenomena we like to call "ice storms"[/dr.evilairquotes] in these parts.

We didn't die.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:33 pm
by M2
Diego in Seattle wrote:According to Duncedale a vehicle with tires possessing tread measuring 1/56th of an inch doesn't need new tires because it hasn't blown a tire or become involved in an accident rate.

Brilliant.



Is this DMV smack ?



Hmmmm.... just need to remember 1/56th of an inch.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:00 pm
by Felix
Truman wrote:
I suppose one would have to accept the actual premise of your questions first in order to address them.
here are the questions...point out which ones aren't relative
where are all the new jobs going to come from

where are the revenues that keep this country running going to come from....how are they going to make up lost revenue from the tax reductions

what are they going to do to stop the exodus of companies from the us

how are they going to address the failing infrastructure in this country

what social services are they going to gut first

How is a voucher system for health care going to make it better for seniors
Conservatives look to the Fed to stay the fuck out of 'em.
exactly which areas do you want the feds to "stay the fuck out" of

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:09 pm
by Truman
This isn’t hard, Felix.

ALL of your questions are irrelevant.

It’s the Fed that creates our problems and spins us into Recession.

It’s the Private Sector that pulls us out. It’s a formula proven time-and-again.

As the Greatest President of the 20th Century once said:



You want to put your faith in a system that currently enjoys only 10% of the country's confidence?

Knock yourself out, Champ.

Oh, sure, you’re dying for specifics. You want quotes to parse to take this thread 10 pages.

Ten years of pile-ons proves that you aren’t worth the keystrokes. And a dose of Common Sense isn’t about to cure your idiocy.

You want answers? Google is your friend. Just go away, tard.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:02 pm
by poptart
Reagan deserves some credit for helping restore a sense of pride in America that had seriously waned toward the end of the Carter term, but I'm not sure I would want to champion him as a guy who really shrank government.

DEFICIT SPENDING began to grow out of control during Reagan's 8 years.

He, along with a Republican Senate (for 6 years), ran up crazy deficits which were 3, 4, even 5 times as much as were seen during the Carter years.

Reagan as a small government guy is a bit of a myth.


One of America's greatest problems - the unconstitutional Department of Education, was promised by Reagan to be abolished if he were elected.

With a Republican Senate, Reagan had a realistic shot at making this happen ---> but he badly failed to nut up.

Just another pawn.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:19 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Truman wrote:This isn’t hard, Felix.

ALL of your questions are irrelevant.

It’s the Fed that creates our problems and spins us into Recession.

It’s the Private Sector that pulls us out. It’s a formula proven time-and-again.

As the Greatest President of the 20th Century once said:



You want to put your faith in a system that currently enjoys only 10% of the country's confidence?

Knock yourself out, Champ.

Oh, sure, you’re dying for specifics. You want quotes to parse to take this thread 10 pages.

Ten years of pile-ons proves that you aren’t worth the keystrokes. And a dose of Common Sense isn’t about to cure your idiocy.

You want answers? Google is your friend. Just go away, tard.

Bullshit, Trupid. Your canned Hannity line is so fake and evasive as to make Sarah Palin choke on Glenn Rice's power pole. Oh wait, that actually happened.

Reagan was a criminal who ended his career in a witness box lying under oath. So many of his staff, cabinet members and minions ended up in jail it makes Watergate look like an AA meeting. His policies were geared to the Koch brothers, not you or me. And his record is in fact abysmal. So if you can't actually deal with the pertinent and pressing questions offered, then it's really you who should just shut it down-- shut up, watch and learn.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:32 am
by Terry in Crapchester
Mikey wrote:Thing is, the economic damage of the NE outage is estimated at $5 billion to $10 billion. But...it only lasted 7 hours and there are no guarantees in life, right? And what's $10 billion between friends?
I remember the NE outage well. It happened in the afternoon in the Eastern time zone on a weekday, so yeah, lots of lost productivity.

I remember going home from work early, rounding up the family and heading to the town pool. Along with lots of other people who happened to be there that day.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:34 am
by Felix
Truman wrote:
Ten years of pile-ons proves that you aren’t worth the keystrokes. And a dose of Common Sense isn’t about to cure your idiocy.

Just go away, tard.
this hurts deeply
and way to put some thought into your response....your reflective intellectual acuity is equivalent to that of a toaster oven.....

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:56 pm
by Moving Sale
88 wrote: It is not compassionate to take money from one person and give it to someone else. That is called theft. And it is immoral.
So saving a kid's life that would otherwise starve is immoral? You are one huge POS.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:55 am
by mvscal
Moving Sale wrote:So saving a kid's life that would otherwise starve is immoral?
If it involves stealing from somebody else, yes. If you're so keen to save that kid's life, then feel free to buy him a sandwich on your nickel.

Re: Romney's VP, call it

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:54 pm
by Sirfindafold
Moving Sale wrote: So saving a kid's life that would otherwise starve is immoral?

Live for yourself...there's no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more.