Trump.....Toast!

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:21 am

Back in the day when I did a ride along program when we lived in MA I was told and saw it in action where you had to have something that loved your identity if an officer asked.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:09 pm

Not really. You have to identify yourself, but you don't have to carry ID.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:10 pm

poptart wrote: Diego thinks this is a good idea?

Scary.

DiS believes anything sucking police crank is a good idea.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:33 pm

poptart wrote:But if you're at the grocery store -- you have to have ID on you, in case "the authorities" need to see one??

You'll have it with anyway since you drove there. Or in case you need to buy some alcohol, tobacco or Sudafed.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:04 pm

mvscal wrote:...some alcohol, tobacco or Sudafed.

Sounds like quite a weekend.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:32 am

Scott wrote:Pelly asked him how he was gonna afford all this with a 19B deficit and he basically said we're all gonna be rich and fuck you

You've said the debt doesn't matter.
Barry obviously hasn't cared about it.

Why now should a President Trump be supposed to care about it?

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:33 am

poptart wrote:
Scott wrote:Pelly asked him how he was gonna afford all this with a 19B deficit and he basically said we're all gonna be rich and fuck you
You've said the debt doesn't matter.
Barry obviously hasn't cared about it.

Why now should a President Trump be supposed to care about it?

This. Who the hell does Scott Pelly think put us in a $19B hole to start with?! Is that the new meme of the Hypocrats upon a GOPher inauguration?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:44 am

KC Scott wrote:Anybody see Trumps on 60 Minutes tonight?

He's gonna tear up NAFTA, have zero taxes on the poor, Raise rates on the rich, lower corp taxes and taxes on the middle class, establish some kind of health care system that isn't Obama care but covers everyone and impose tariffs on China if they continue to artificially devalue their currency

Pelly asked him how he was gonna afford all this with a 19B deficit and he basically said we're all gonna be rich and fuck you

damn this is gonna be a fun election

He has the potential to be as destructive as Andrew Jackson. More likely Congress would bring him to heel were he somehow elected.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:29 pm

BSmack wrote: He has the potential to be as destructive as Andrew Jackson.

Really? Enforcing our immigration laws like every other country on the planet and refusing to bend over and get assfucked by shitty trade deals is bad?

Please outline in specific detail the nature of this alleged destruction.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:29 pm

mvscal wrote:Please outline in specific detail the nature of this alleged destruction.

He promised to crater revenue by cutting personal and corporate taxes. Then he promised the biggest public works project since the Great Wall of China. Do the fucking math.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:35 pm

BSmack wrote:
He promised to crater revenue by cutting corporate taxes.

Thank goodness. Corporations don't pay taxes, the government just make them de facto tax collectors, which is a very inefficient system.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:39 am

KC Scott wrote:
poptart wrote:
Scott wrote:Pelly asked him how he was gonna afford all this with a 19B deficit and he basically said we're all gonna be rich and fuck you
You've said the debt doesn't matter.
Barry obviously hasn't cared about it.

Why now should a President Trump be supposed to care about it?

You've confused the words deficit and debt

But there are many things you're confused about

Oh, the debt matters?

When will it matter?

Be careful.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:18 pm

Looks like Ben is slowly gaining on The D. Don't think he is gaining much from Donald supporters, probably more people jumping off various other sinking ships. I would be happy with either. The more I hear Ben speak, the more I like him. Dude has been doing his homework and is one seriously intelligent mofo. I would like to see a Carson-Cruz ticket. Make the Donald sec. of state!!!

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:09 pm

Carson is a weapons grade fucktard and the more he talks the dumber and crazier he sounds.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:42 pm

He seems to have difficulty keeping his eyes open when he talks. What's up with that?

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:02 pm

He's also bringing up abortion.

Yet again.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:06 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:He seems to have difficulty keeping his eyes open when he talks. What's up with that?

He's probably heavily medicated to help prevent him from stabbing people.

“As a teenager, I would go after people with rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hammers,” he continued. “Of course, many people know the story when I was 14 and I tried to stab someone.”

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:10 pm

“As a teenager, I would go after people with rocks, and bricks, and baseball bats, and hammers,” he continued. “Of course, many people know the story when I was 14 and I tried to stab someone.”

And haven't we all.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:02 pm

He's also a 7th Day Adventist and they're all nuttier than squirrel shit.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:27 am

WASHINGTON — Republican voters view Donald Trump as their strongest general election candidate, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll that highlights the sharp contrast between the party’s voters and its top professionals regarding the billionaire businessman’s ultimate political strength.

Seven in 10 Republican and Republican-leaning registered voters say Trump could win in November 2016 if he is nominated, and that’s the most who say so of any candidate. By comparison, 6 in 10 say the same for retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who, like Trump, has tapped into the powerful wave of antiestablishment anger defining the early phases of the 2016 contest.

“It’s the lifelong establishment politicians on both sides that rub me the wrong way,” said registered Republican Joe Selig, a 60-year-old carpenter from Vallejo, California. “I think Trump is more electable. He’s strong. We need strength these days.”

Trump and Carson are considered among the least electable general election candidates by the Republican Party’s professionals, those who are in the business of helping candidates run campaigns and win elections.

Experienced political strategists note that winning a general election and winning the Republican nomination are often very different tasks. The GOP’s most conservative voters – a group that is older and whiter than the nation as a whole – wield extraordinary influence in picking the nominee. Independents, moderate voters and minorities are far more important in general elections that draw many more people to the polls.

While Trump and Carson are popular in primary election polls, both have used divisive rhetoric in recent months that alienated some minorities. Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals during his announcement speech; while Carson said he would not support a Muslim presidential candidate.

“Republicans think (Democrat) Hillary (Rodham Clinton) is weaker than she is. They are wrong,” said GOP operative Katie Packer, who was deputy campaign manager for 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney. “They think we don’t need to win more women or more Hispanics to win. They’re wrong.”

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who has embraced a welcoming tone with Hispanics, tops the field of experienced political leaders on the question of electability, running about even with Carson and slightly behind Trump.

Six in 10 Republicans say Bush could win the general election and 54 percent say the same about Florida Sen. Marco Rubio. There’s a drop-off among the rest of the GOP’s 2016 crowded class. None of the other candidates is viewed as electable in a general election by more than half of Republican voters.

Carson and Trump are the candidates most likely to receive positive ratings from Republican voters, with 65 percent saying they have a favorable opinion of Carson and 58 percent saying the same of Trump. Republicans are somewhat less excited about Bush, with 48 percent giving him a favorable rating.

“If he weren’t a Bush, I wouldn’t even know his name,” said Republican Leslie Millican, a 34-year-old housewife from Magnolia, Arkansas. “I like the other Bushes. Something about (Jeb Bush) – he ain’t grown on me yet.”

Trump and Bush have the highest negative ratings within their own party: 37 percent of Republican voters say they have an unfavorable opinion of Bush and 36 percent say the same of Trump.

Their negatives are even more pronounced among the broader electorate. The AP-GfK poll found Trump is viewed unfavorably by 57 percent of those surveyed, the highest negatives of any Republican candidate. Bush is next with unfavorable ratings from 48 percent of all respondents.

Overall, all but one GOP candidate is viewed more unfavorably than favorably by all those questioned. Carson is the exception, drawing about equally positive and negative views. He remains unknown by a significant portion of the electorate.

Among Republican voters, all the candidates except New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have a net positive rating. Carson tops the list, followed by Rubio, former technology executive Carly Fiorina and then Trump.

The poll also found a sharp difference between the political parties over experience.

By an overwhelming 77 percent to 22 percent margin, Republican registered voters and leaners say they prefer an outsider candidate who will change how things are done, rather than someone with experience in Washington who can get things done. They prefer someone with private sector leadership experience over experience holding elected office, 76 percent to 22 percent.

Trump, Carson and Fiorina are the only Republican candidates who have never held elective office. Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, is a former first lady, secretary of state and senator.

Perhaps that helps explain why Democrats prefer experience over outsider status, 67 percent to 32 percent, and experience in office over private sector experience 66 percent to 33 percent.

Republican strategist John Feehery says Trump is considered electable now only because he hasn’t yet been the subject of a multimillion dollar negative ad campaign, which will happen should he maintain his lead in the polls.

“Right now, he serves a valuable purpose as a front-runner, especially for the Democrats,” Feehery said. “They would love him to be our nominee.”

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:36 pm

Republican strategist John Feehery says Trump is considered electable now only because he hasn’t yet been the subject of a multimillion dollar negative ad campaign, which will happen should he maintain his lead in the polls.

Any day now...

These brainless asstards are shit-whistling past the graveyard. Trump has flipped the script on the donor class and they have absolutely no idea how to respond. This dumbfuck thinks money is going to save Yeb Boosh? Keep dreaming. He doesn't have any.

They know something is happening here but they don't know what it is...

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:54 pm

mvscal wrote:He's also a 7th Day Adventist and they're all nuttier than squirrel shit.

And he's now the Republitard frontrunner.

Run Ben, run!

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:02 pm

Bullshit poll.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:47 pm

mvscal wrote:Bullshit poll.

And you have a better one, fucktard?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:49 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
mvscal wrote:He's also a 7th Day Adventist and they're all nuttier than squirrel shit.
And he's now the Republitard frontrunner.

Run Ben, run!

Ben vs Hillary would be quite the theater. These so called Black leaders would have to backpedal and spin out of things they said to help get Barry O elected.

Further some have alluded to "skeletons" in Ben's closet that have to do with infedility. Something Hillary tolerated in her own marriage. If it is true that he does have said past how will Hillary handle?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:04 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
mvscal wrote:Bullshit poll.
And you have a better one, fucktard?

Take your pick, you brainless, kiddy diddling shitbag.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3823.html

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:16 pm

mvscal wrote:Carson is a weapons grade fucktard and the more he talks the dumber and crazier he sounds.

“My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain,” Carson said.

“Now all the archaeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain.”

Carson added: “And when you look at the way that the pyramids are made, with many chambers that are hermetically sealed, they’d have to be that way for various reasons.

“And various of scientists have said, ‘Well, you know there were alien beings that came down and they have special knowledge and that’s how, you know, it doesn’t require an alien being when God is with you.”

Carson told CBS News on Wednesday: “It’s still my belief, yes.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/carson-pyr ... ore-grain/

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:56 pm

Left Seater wrote:
You are already required to have ID on you at anytime.

pure unadulterated horseshit......

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed May 04, 2016 2:31 pm

The Big Pickle · Post by **The Big Pickle** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:26 pm

President Trump and VP Newt Gingrich!!!!!

The Big Pickle · Post by **The Big Pickle** » Wed May 04, 2016 4:35 pm

KC Scott wrote:^^^ Uhhh...... No

Trump's VP choice needs to be someone more to the center and less "polarizing"

Ryan would be a good call, but no way he's doing it.

I'm a Republican from Wisconsin and I HATE HATE HATE Paul Ryan! Paul Ryan is the reason that Romney lost!

Gingrich was in Congress the last time the budget was balanced. Gingrich has softened his tone and was hired by CNN to be on crossfire. Gingrich is brilliant in politics. Trump has just come out and said his VP will be someone that is BRILLIANT in politics! It's Newt!

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:04 pm

Newt was the last pol to actually put forward an ambitious space plan that included transitioning most of civil space development from government to industry. Unfortunately, that's the only thing to like about Newt, pile of shit that he is.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:30 pm

The Big Pickle wrote:A Clinton was in the White House the last time the budget was balanced.

The Big Pickle · Post by **The Big Pickle** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:42 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
The Big Pickle wrote:A Clinton was in the White House the last time the budget was balanced.

Two words.....

Newt Gingrich

Or three words.....

Contract With America

Take your pick.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed May 04, 2016 5:53 pm

As a matter of fact, I believe that was Bill's 4th budget surplus in a row.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed May 04, 2016 6:00 pm

Trump/Gingrich

Wonderful...They can try to ram through another DOMA-esque bill while sporting their six marriages.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed May 04, 2016 7:44 pm

mvscal wrote:
BSmack wrote: He has the potential to be as destructive as Andrew Jackson.
Really? Enforcing our immigration laws like every other country on the planet and refusing to bend over and get assfucked by shitty trade deals is bad?

Please outline in specific detail the nature of this alleged destruction.

It will tank Wally-mart stock.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:39 pm

KC Scott wrote:
smackaholic wrote:
It will tank Wally-mart stock.
I've read this stupid opinion multiple times

Anything made in China can be made anywhere else - there's cheap labor all over the world

The difference being those countries won't artificially keep their currency lower, and won't require our companies to build manufacturing plants there in order to sell into their markets

Here's a clue - China needs us (and access to our consumers) far more than we need them

Trump is not talking about moving manufacturing from China to India. He is talking about moving it back here. This will mean prices will have to rise somewhat, cutting into the profits of the wally-mart folks who have gotten rich along with their Chinese buddies. As for the currency manipulation thing, perhaps they do it, but, even if they didn't, the simple fact is that chinks will work for slave wages and to compete with them, we have to do a few things differently. We can't match them wage wise, but, we can get government to stop strangling businesses with over regulation and confiscatory tax rates.

I agree that China needs us way more than we need them. It is time we started acting that way.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed May 04, 2016 10:16 pm

Don't disagree with anything you say, I just don't believe that currency manipulation is as big a factor as he makes it. There really is a simple solution. We need to inform countries that we WILL have a trade balance with all partners. We will buy from them, so long as they buy from us. Wanna sell more shit to us? Buy more from us. It's pretty simple.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu May 05, 2016 2:34 pm

Washington (CNN) — Conservative blogger and radio host Erick Erickson said Wednesday he's had a number of conversations about laying the groundwork for a third-party candidate to oppose Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Erickson, a leader of the #NeverTrump movement, told CNN that he plans more such conversations in the coming days, and that the consensus among anti-Trump conservatives is that voters who won't support Trump or Clinton need another option.

"Donald Trump cannot consolidate the Republican base and many Republicans cannot accept a Hillary Clinton donor as the Republican nominee," Erickson said. "If the delegates ratify this madness in Cleveland, many of us will look elsewhere for a credible candidate to oppose both Trump and Clinton."

He added: "We will begin now laying the groundwork for an exit strategy from Donald Trump's Republican Party."

Erickson said several names are being floated, but wouldn't say whom. Erickson added that he and other conservatives interested in a third-party candidate understand that they're facing a tight window to recruit a candidate and launch a campaign.

The conservative push to find a third-party candidate comes as party loyalists who'd sought delegate slots at the upcoming Republican National Convention in Cleveland back out, saying they can't support Trump.

In Indiana, Joshua Claybourn, an Evansville Republican, had already claimed a delegate spot for the RNC -- but told CNN he's backing out.

"I will neither vote for, nor in any other way support, Mr. Trump," he said in a statement. Claybourn pointed to Trump's opposition of free trade deals, the candidate's "skeptical" approach to free speech, and Trump's lack of "a mature temperament needed at home and abroad."

He said: "I believe a Trump presidency would bring less peace, more economic hardship, and a greater deterioration of freedom and respect. I cannot in good conscience attend a convention supporting him."

Nebraska Republican Sen. Ben Sasse, who has long opposed Trump, wrote a Facebook post calling for a third-party candidate.

"With Clinton and Trump, the fix is in. Heads, they win; tails, you lose," Sasse wrote. "Why are we confined to these two terrible options? This is America. If both choices stink, we reject them and go bigger. That's what we do."

He added that although he is a staunch conservative, he's "not interested in an ideological purity test, because even a genuine consensus candidate would almost certainly be more conservative than either of the two dishonest liberals now leading the two national parties."

Art Pope, an influential North Carolina donor, said he withdrew his name from the delegate slate for the upcoming state convention there, saying he no longer wants to go to Cleveland.

"At this point in time I do not plan to actively support Donald Trump," Pope told CNN. "That's why I'm not going to the Republican National Convention."