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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:57 am
by TheChief
stuckinia wrote:Unforunately, no undefeated season for you. WAR the real MNC game in Jacksonville. :wink:
I can't wait! :twisted: What a game that could turn out to be. Even though it would be a mathematic impossibility and all... :?


Nolesy,
I like your thinking. About the pic....I just couldn't do it man. She's family!

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:42 am
by Ken
Jimmy Medalions wrote:Agree but disagree, Ken. Watching USC play expectations are high, and like you I come accross feeling like we're not on our game.

Then you look at the stats after the game and see that we rolled up over 700 yards. Nearly half on the ground, and 37 minutes in time of possession.

Agree we look like we're underachieving. But fuck the stats tell a different story. I haven't figured this squad out just yet...

Interesting to note that the prior three offenses averaged right around 5,800 yards per season. Including today's game, and with seven games to go, we're already at 3,200.

We need some kids on defense to develop. But we're beatable, no question about it.
Guess I can't argue some of those stats. I guess my point to put it most simply is that...
If some of these teams can play USC close for one half, regardless of yds gained, no reason they can't do the same for two halves. I guess the question is will USC ever play two mediocre halves in one game this season? Doubtful, but obviously possible. For this reason, I just am not quite in the 'USC is unstoppable' camp.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:56 am
by Vito Corleone
Right now Texas would kick the shit out of every other undefeated team out there except for USC. Thats the one fact that means the least in this argument but it is a fact nonetheless.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:19 am
by PSUFAN
How do you know that to be a fact? The only facts arrive as the clock ticks down on a game.

UT got a huge monkey off of their backs...there's more to do yet, though. Ain't no "facts" involved yet, apart from what has already passed.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:39 am
by Vito Corleone
I know it is a fact the same way I know that Skull could never turn down free beer, or Jon = Bitch or Mtard will post any worthless stat to prove why Kal is better than USC.

I just know it.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:08 am
by Nolesy
Vito Corleone wrote:Right now Texas would kick the shit out of every other undefeated team out there except for USC. Thats the one fact that means the least in this argument but it is a fact nonetheless.
easy now. I know you are coming of a mile stone win but don't let elation make you drunk.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:29 am
by campinfool
Texas will choke it away this week vs the Buffs. You can take that to the bank. Austin_Bill will never learn that you can never put all you faith in a Longhorn team.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:40 pm
by Cicero
I still believe it will be a USC/Texas MNC game. I believe they are clearly the best two teams in the country and I dont see them losing. I love my Noles but they are a year away. I see them dropping one to either UF or Clemson, but ending Va Techs hopes of an undeafeted season in the ACC title game. Georgia and Bama both have some hard games remaining which i see them dropping at least one. The cream will rise to the top and SC will win a shootout and a statue of Pete Carroll riding the Big 12 will be erected in Southern Cal.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:45 pm
by Mr T
If USC, Texas, and another team all remain undefeated. Be prepared to watch another Big XII team get butcher raped and USC be given another MNC.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:52 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
Ken wrote:I just am not quite in the 'USC is unstoppable' camp.
Neither am I.

The stuff I'm spouting in that other thread is mostly bs. We are definitely a beatable team.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:17 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Rack Fu wrote:
MSUFAN wrote:PSU in a lock, IF they run the table.
PSU is going to go from being ranked 17th (currently) to leapfrogging Texas which has a virtual stanglehold on the #2 ranking? I don't want to give you a math lesson or anything but if UT goes undefeated, it's impossible for PSU to catch them. Probably the only team with a mathematical shot at overtaking them would be VT.
Which is precisely why pre season and early season rankings are extremely significant.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:23 pm
by Mr T
IF IF IF IF IF IF ect.

VT and FSU are both undefeated in jax. The winner would go to the Rose.

A win over a top 5 team at the end of the year would give either team enough to leap frog a texass team who will only play one team worth damn before bowl season.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:22 pm
by Rack Fu
Mr T wrote:IF IF IF IF IF IF ect.

VT and FSU are both undefeated in jax. The winner would go to the Rose.

A win over a top 5 team at the end of the year would give either team enough to leap frog a texass team who will only play one team worth damn before bowl season.
I doubt it. Texas is a lock at #2.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:57 pm
by Mr T
Fu, you are either:

1) A fucking moron
2) A fuck-tard that goes for Cuse in B-ball and texass in F-ball.
3) All the above

Texas isnt a lock at #2. SOS and computer polls hurt the fucking media darling known as the longhorns. VT and FSU both control their own destiny. Texas just has to win out and hope either VT and FSU both lose or USC loses.

The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:04 pm
by TheChief
Mr T wrote:Fu, you are either:

1) A fucking moron
2) A fuck-tard that goes for Cuse in B-ball and texass in F-ball.
3) All the above

Texas isnt a lock at #2. SOS and computer polls hurt the fucking media darling known as the longhorns. VT and FSU both control their own destiny. Texas just has to win out and hope either VT and FSU both lose or USC loses.

The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967
That’s just preposterous! It’s a mathematical impossibility. :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:38 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
Wouldn't it be delightful if the ACC champ leaped over the Longhorns to take the number 2 spot.

It would make Auburn's complete and utter meltdown after last season look like a bottle rocket.

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:43 pm
by Rack Fu
Mr T wrote:Fu, you are either:

1) A fucking moron
2) A fuck-tard that goes for Cuse in B-ball and texass in F-ball.
3) All the above

Texas isnt a lock at #2. SOS and computer polls hurt the fucking media darling known as the longhorns. VT and FSU both control their own destiny. Texas just has to win out and hope either VT and FSU both lose or USC loses.

The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967
:lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:35 am
by Terry in Crapchester
Mr T wrote:The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967
Haven't seen this anywhere else, but if that's true, ND is certainly getting shafted for the moment.

No matter. If we beat SC, we'll assume our rightful place.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:48 pm
by MuchoBulls
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Mr T wrote:The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967
Haven't seen this anywhere else, but if that's true, ND is certainly getting shafted for the moment.
Out of curiousity, where do you think ND should be ranked in there?

Miami's loss is to the #4 team in that poll and Florida's is to the #6 team, so it would be a bit difficult to make a case for ND to be ahead of them.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:02 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Mucho, as of right now, you think LSU deserves to be in there over ND? We'll know who's more deserving after the 15th when they play Florida and ND plays SC, but as of right now, ND has been the more impressive team. I agree though that you probably can't jump them over Miami or Florida.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:15 pm
by MuchoBulls
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Mucho, as of right now, you think LSU deserves to be in there over ND? We'll know who's more deserving after the 15th when they play Florida and ND plays SC, but as of right now, ND has been the more impressive team. I agree though that you probably can't jump them over Miami or Florida.
No, I don't think LSU deserves that over ND. They both have a good win and a loss to a good team.

I do agree that we will find out a good deal about both teams this weekend.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:25 pm
by Vito Corleone
Mr T wrote:Fu, you are either:

1) A fucking moron
2) A fuck-tard that goes for Cuse in B-ball and texass in F-ball.
3) All the above

Texas isnt a lock at #2. SOS and computer polls hurt the fucking media darling known as the longhorns. VT and FSU both control their own destiny. Texas just has to win out and hope either VT and FSU both lose or USC loses.

The projected BCS top 10 at the moment:
1 Southern Cal 0.9722
2 Virginia Tech 0.8931
3 Texas 0.8819
4 Florida St 0.8745
5 Georgia 0.8540
6 Alabama 0.8100
7 Penn State 0.7967
8 Miami FL 0.7627
9 LSU 0.6267
10 Florida 0.5967
The BCS projections right now don't mean jack, The computer polls are all over the place right now. As the year goes on Texas will pass Vtech and assume their position as the #2 team. Fact is there isn't anyone in their right mind outside of myopic hokie and nole fans who think either of those two teams could beat Texas.

Texas has yet to play a complete game nor have they put in their complete defensive package. Once Texas does that the only team that will have a chance is going to be USC.

Jimmy is right, if Texas does not slip up and it still does not get into the BCS title game then the meltdown will be epic, and that is just in my house.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:32 pm
by indyfrisco
Vito Corleone wrote:if Texas does not slip up and it still does not get into the BCS title game then the meltdown will be epic
The CFB world outside of Austin could only dream...

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:58 pm
by Nolesy
Texas has yet to play a complete game nor have they put in their complete defensive package. Once Texas does that the only team that will have a chance is going to be USC.

Bill I could use the excact same words and so could Va. Tech. fan. So essentially that phrase does nothing to strengthen your aurgument.
FSU will jump Texas if they win out and beat Tech in the title game simply based on quality wins.
I know your jacked about your Horns but remember thier win over OSU is looking less convincing as the season progresses and you beat a wounded OU.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:33 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
I'm surprised this doomsday scenario hasn't already been written about. If tOSU falters this weekend, I think you can expect it soon.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:34 pm
by Jimmy Medalions
Believe the Heupel wrote:Stoops fucks Mack again. ;)
Maybe OU should throw the rest of their games :?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:21 pm
by Vito Corleone
Nolesy wrote:Texas has yet to play a complete game nor have they put in their complete defensive package. Once Texas does that the only team that will have a chance is going to be USC.

Bill I could use the excact same words and so could Va. Tech. fan. So essentially that phrase does nothing to strengthen your aurgument.
FSU will jump Texas if they win out and beat Tech in the title game simply based on quality wins.
I know your jacked about your Horns but remember thier win over OSU is looking less convincing as the season progresses and you beat a wounded OU.
So you are saying that FSU and Vtech both have brand new DCs?

Chizik has only implimented only about half his system we can expect to see the defense get better and better as more of the formations, stunts and coverages get put in.

Why is it that FSU or Vtech has only half of their defense put in?

Right now Vtech is the most overrated team in the country, they have struggled against NCSU Marshall and West Virgina. The scores of each of those games doesn't tell an accurate story.

FSU has a great defense but a shitty offense. If all you have to hang your hat on is SOS then you are going to be sadly mistaken.

As of right now the two best teams I have watched are Texas and USC. The third best team I have seen would probably be Georgia.

Also keep this in mind, Texas is still a very young team, we have only 7 or 8 senior starters as some of these guys get more PT they will get much better.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:29 pm
by Vito Corleone
Jimmy Medalions wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Stoops fucks Mack again. ;)
Maybe OU should throw the rest of their games :?
If Texas has to depend on OU to get into the BCS championship game then I would rather not get in and enjoy the Spooner meltdown.

Besides, if Texas is the third wheel and still wins their bowl game they can still claim they were cheated and deserve to be the MNC as much as the winner. Or hell maybe the get a split decision.

I prefer to win the thing outright but this stuff is not in anyones control.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:57 pm
by Killian
Vito Corleone wrote:
Jimmy Medalions wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Stoops fucks Mack again. ;)
Maybe OU should throw the rest of their games :?
If Texas has to depend on OU to get into the BCS championship game then I would rather not get in and enjoy the Spooner meltdown.
Wow. How "Babsian" of you.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:36 pm
by Vito Corleone
No, I have had my fill of depending on OU to look good enough to help Texas get to a good bowl in 2k3 and 2k4.

I've been looking forward to not having to pull for them for too long to have to stomach it now. :D

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:37 pm
by Mr T
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:40 pm
by Mr T
Vito Corleone wrote:Fact is there isn't anyone in their right mind outside of myopic hokie and nole fans who think either of those two teams could beat Texas.
Pot meet kettle...ah fuck it. You are a moron and wouldnt understand anyway.
Texas has yet to play a complete game nor have they put in their complete defensive package.
You forget that last ditch toss up pass against OSU. Yeah, texass hasnt played a full game yet. Whatever you say sally.

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:44 pm
by Mr T
Believe the Heupel wrote: College Football as a whole is looking to screw the Big 12 based on OU getting to the title game two years in a row without deserving it (in their minds.)
I like how you ended that.

:roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:56 pm
by TheChief
Did he say Georgia?? Who have they beaten besides an overated Tenn team???

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:44 pm
by Nolesy
Vito Corleone wrote:
Nolesy wrote:Texas has yet to play a complete game nor have they put in their complete defensive package. Once Texas does that the only team that will have a chance is going to be USC.

Bill I could use the excact same words and so could Va. Tech. fan. So essentially that phrase does nothing to strengthen your aurgument.
FSU will jump Texas if they win out and beat Tech in the title game simply based on quality wins.
I know your jacked about your Horns but remember thier win over OSU is looking less convincing as the season progresses and you beat a wounded OU.
So you are saying that FSU and Vtech both have brand new DCs?

Chizik has only implimented only about half his system we can expect to see the defense get better and better as more of the formations, stunts and coverages get put in.

Why is it that FSU or Vtech has only half of their defense put in?

Right now Vtech is the most overrated team in the country, they have struggled against NCSU Marshall and West Virgina. The scores of each of those games doesn't tell an accurate story.

FSU has a great defense but a shitty offense. If all you have to hang your hat on is SOS then you are going to be sadly mistaken.

As of right now the two best teams I have watched are Texas and USC. The third best team I have seen would probably be Georgia.

Also keep this in mind, Texas is still a very young team, we have only 7 or 8 senior starters as some of these guys get more PT they will get much better.
Bill, Bill, Bill, no I am not saying that FSU and Va. Tech have new D coordinators. What I am saying is clearly written above. Let me paraphrase it for you. Texas has not the quality wins that FSU will have if FSU goes undefeated. FSU will have wins over MIami, BC on the road, Florida on the road and a win over #3 Va. tech assuming tech remains as is till untill the title game. Additionally, FSU played in a more competative conference this year. Now stay with me here, Texas beat OSU in a close game. OSU continues to show they were the team that they were expected to be. Hence, that win grows more unimpressive. B eating OU and the remainder of your schuedule is simply not enough to justify Texas' #2 ranking at seasons end.

Now, FSU does not have a shitty O. That was the past 4 years. In fact FSU has now a better than average O. They have more young players 7-8 who are freshman who are playing GREAT RIGHT NOW.
Additionally, FSU has been ther many times before and "knows how to do it". Can the same be said for TExas in the last, oh say, 15 years?

Sheesh, don't tell me I'll have to spend the next 3 months walking Bill through things :wink:

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:58 pm
by the_ouskull
Jimmy Medalions wrote:Wouldn't it be delightful if the ACC champ leaped over the Longhorns to take the number 2 spot.

It would make Auburn's complete and utter meltdown after last season look like a bottle rocket.
It is the only thing that is making this football season worth living through for me.

the_ouskull

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:35 am
by Vito Corleone
Nolesy wrote:

Bill, Bill, Bill, no I am not saying that FSU and Va. Tech have new D coordinators. What I am saying is clearly written above. Let me paraphrase it for you. Texas has not the quality wins that FSU will have if FSU goes undefeated. FSU will have wins over MIami, BC on the road, Florida on the road and a win over #3 Va. tech assuming tech remains as is till untill the title game. Additionally, FSU played in a more competative conference this year. Now stay with me here, Texas beat OSU in a close game. OSU continues to show they were the team that they were expected to be. Hence, that win grows more unimpressive. B eating OU and the remainder of your schuedule is simply not enough to justify Texas' #2 ranking at seasons end.

Now, FSU does not have a shitty O. That was the past 4 years. In fact FSU has now a better than average O. They have more young players 7-8 who are freshman who are playing GREAT RIGHT NOW.
Additionally, FSU has been ther many times before and "knows how to do it". Can the same be said for TExas in the last, oh say, 15 years?

Sheesh, don't tell me I'll have to spend the next 3 months walking Bill through things :wink:
What I am tellin you is that the ACC is overrated and your socalled quality wins will end up being Florida. BC is no better than Oklahoma. I truely doubt that either Vtech or Miami are any better than Taco tech. Remember thtat Vtech has struggled against teams like NCSU west virgina and Marshall.

I don't know why I'm even talking with you idiots about this, you have as much chance of going undefeated as a$m has at going to a BCS game. I just don't see anything special about your team.

BTW which guys on your team has been there before, I didin't know you had guys who have been on the team since 2k, that was the last time I remember you being worth a shit. I guess you are refering to your coaching staff but unless they are strapping on the pads I don't see how they are going to make your freshmen QB suddenly not a freshmen.

And blOwU fan can STFU your season is already over.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:39 am
by campinfool
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sounds like a broken record.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:43 pm
by MuchoBulls
Vito Corleone wrote:I truely doubt that either Vtech or Miami are any better than Taco tech. Remember thtat Vtech has struggled against teams like NCSU west virgina and Marshall.
Thanks for the morning humor. Texas Tech has trouble playing against teams with a good defense, which both Miami and Virginia Tech have and then some.

VT struggled against NCSU since that was on the road and in the first game of the season. They handled WVU and Marshall fairly easily.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:52 pm
by Nolesy
Vito Corleone wrote:
Nolesy wrote:

Bill, Bill, Bill, no I am not saying that FSU and Va. Tech have new D coordinators. What I am saying is clearly written above. Let me paraphrase it for you. Texas has not the quality wins that FSU will have if FSU goes undefeated. FSU will have wins over MIami, BC on the road, Florida on the road and a win over #3 Va. tech assuming tech remains as is till untill the title game. Additionally, FSU played in a more competative conference this year. Now stay with me here, Texas beat OSU in a close game. OSU continues to show they were the team that they were expected to be. Hence, that win grows more unimpressive. B eating OU and the remainder of your schuedule is simply not enough to justify Texas' #2 ranking at seasons end.

Now, FSU does not have a shitty O. That was the past 4 years. In fact FSU has now a better than average O. They have more young players 7-8 who are freshman who are playing GREAT RIGHT NOW.
Additionally, FSU has been ther many times before and "knows how to do it". Can the same be said for TExas in the last, oh say, 15 years?

Sheesh, don't tell me I'll have to spend the next 3 months walking Bill through things :wink:
What I am tellin you is that the ACC is overrated and your socalled quality wins will end up being Florida. BC is no better than Oklahoma. I truely doubt that either Vtech or Miami are any better than Taco tech. Remember thtat Vtech has struggled against teams like NCSU west virgina and Marshall.

I don't know why I'm even talking with you idiots about this, you have as much chance of going undefeated as a$m has at going to a BCS game. I just don't see anything special about your team.

BTW which guys on your team has been there before, I didin't know you had guys who have been on the team since 2k, that was the last time I remember you being worth a shit. I guess you are refering to your coaching staff but unless they are strapping on the pads I don't see how they are going to make your freshmen QB suddenly not a freshmen.

And blOwU fan can STFU your season is already over.
I truely beg your forgiveness Bill. I know it has been sooooooo long since Texas fan has had anything to thump thier chest about. It was very insensitive of me to rain on your parade by brining reality to your party.
I will try my best not to spoil your short lived victory party by bringing up the truth in the future.

I am curious about one thing though, When Texas gets shut out of the title game will you all have to go stay at the Astro Dome and remain under suicide watch?