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Variable wrote:That thread is about deflection of attention, this thread is about encouraging racist attacks. Apples and oranges doesn't even do that horrid comparison justice. How about Kiwi fruit and canteloupe?

Sounds like hippy food.

I must have missed where they were encouraging people to physicaly attack Steele.

"There is a difference between pointing out the obvious and calling someone names," said a campaign spokesman for Kweisi Mfume, a Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate and former president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Sounds to me like Mfume is NOT condoning physical attacks.

I said "racist attacks", not "physical attacks." Way to avoid the issue again by trying to take this thread out into left field.

So I guess we're not going to get a legitimate take from you on this.
Shocker... Psst...not really.

Variable wrote:I said "racist attacks", not "physical attacks."

Just how is pointing out that Steele's positions are detrimental to the black community a "racist attack"?

You have sat here while true racists spew their hate and said nothing. And now you call that rhetoric "racist"?

Playing the race card does not count as reasonable, legitimate political discourse. Scaremongering is not reasonable, legitimate policy discourse.

Care to disagree with that?

Throwing oreos at a black conservative because he doesn't the "black" line is not reasonable debate. It's cowardice. It's racial politics. That's why you blacks are marginalized and that's why the towns you do control, like Detroit, are shit.

mvscal wrote:If that isn't true racism, nothing is. I'm guessing we won't hear a peep when Barack Obama is pelted with fried chicken, called a porch monkey and a field ni..gger then right?

No, you'll hear me laughing my ass off at you after you get an old school ghetto beat down.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote:If that isn't true racism, nothing is. I'm guessing we won't hear a peep when Barack Obama is pelted with fried chicken, called a porch monkey and a field ni..gger then right?

No, you'll hear me laughing my ass off at you after you get an old school ghetto beat down.

Now look who is perpetuating negative racial stereotypes...

How's that? I thought most SS Agents were white?

Barack will be a veep candidate in 08 sucka.

BSmack wrote: Just how is pointing out that Steele's positions are detrimental to the black community a "racist attack"?

They didn't point anything out. If they argued about his philosiphy, there'd be no problem with it. What they've done is green light racial slurs.

BTW, by saying "the black community", you're implying that all blacks need the handouts given to poor blacks by the democrats. Nice going, bigot.

BSmack wrote:You have sat here while true racists spew their hate and said nothing. And now you call that rhetoric "racist"?

For one thing, I'm not going to call someone's post that contains the word "n*igger", "racist." I think that's pretty clear to anyone with an average 5th grade education.

For another, if you think I'm going to slam mvscal or Detroit for dropping those words, you're going to be waiting a long time. I get the context that mvscal uses it in. He uses it to refer to poor blacks, the same way others use "PWT" or "Trailer trash" to refer to poor whites. I may not agree with it, but I know he's not saying "all blacks."

Mvscal strikes me as the type of guy who hates people of any color who are a waste of fucking space and a leech on society. He uses N-bombs to describe blacks of that ilk. That's how I read him, anyway. Point being, nothing that I say will change the way he phrases things, so I've got better things to do than beat my head against a brick wall.

Variable wrote:They didn't point anything out. If they argued about his philosiphy, there'd be no problem with it. What they've done is green light racial slurs.

What racial slurs? Uncle Tom is not a racial slur, it is an adjective used to describe one who is needlessly subservient to his master. In this case, a Lt Governor who says it doesn't bother him that politicans use all white clubs for their fundraising.

Among other things.

BTW, by saying "the black community", you're implying that all blacks need the handouts given to poor blacks by the democrats. Nice going, bigot.

Who was talking about handouts?

BSmack wrote:For one thing, I'm not going to call someone's post that contains the word "n*igger", "racist." I think that's pretty clear to anyone with an average 5th grade education.

For another, if you think I'm going to slam mvscal or Detroit for dropping those words, you're going to be waiting a long time. I get the context that mvscal uses it in. He uses it to refer to poor blacks, the same way others use "PWT" or "Trailer trash" to refer to poor whites. I may not agree with it, but I know he's not saying "all blacks."

Mvscal strikes me as the type of guy who hates people of any color who are a waste of fucking space and a leech on society. He uses N-bombs to describe blacks of that ilk. That's how I read him, anyway. Point being, nothing that I say will change the way he phrases things, so I've got better things to do than beat my head against a brick wall.

What a pussy assed handwringer you are. You start off by calling him a racist and then you finish by defending his motives?

Why don't you just suck him off and call him Schilinger while you're at it?

What racial slurs? Uncle Tom is not a racial slur, it is an adjective used to describe one who is needlessly subservient to his master. In this case, a Lt Governor who says it doesn't bother him that politicans use all white clubs for their fundraising.

But I thought you said he was being attacked because of his policy decisions that would be detrimental to the black community?

Funny that the first thing you come up with something wholly unrelated to the welfare of blacks.

Typical, but funny nonetheless.

BSmack wrote: What racial slurs? Uncle Tom is not a racial slur, it is an adjective used to describe one who is needlessly subservient to his master. In this case, a Lt Governor who says it doesn't bother him that politicans use all white clubs for their fundraising.

Uncle Tom isn't a racial slur? Go drop that phrase on a black co-worker and see how long you're still employed. You can't really be this dumb.

Who was talking about handouts?

Every democratic candidate who caters to the black community. You can't really be this dumb.

BSmack wrote: What a pussy assed handwringer you are. You start off by calling him a racist and then you finish by defending his motives?

I didn't say he was a racist, I said the use of the term is racist.

I also didn't defend his motives, I said I understood his motives.

Jesus, you ARE this dumb.

BSmack wrote:Why don't you just suck him off and call him Schilinger while you're at it?

Somebody's got cock on the brain. I thought you gave that up when you got married...

DrDetroit wrote:But I thought you said he was being attacked because of his policy decisions that would be detrimental to the black community? Funny that the first thing you come up with something wholly unrelated to the welfare of blacks.

If you think segregated country clubs don't have an impact on the black community, then we can just feel free to discount all of your bullshit about real upward mobility for those who just work hard and live right.

Variable wrote:Uncle Tom isn't a racial slur?

No, as a matter of fact, YOU are an Uncle Tom in your dealings with the T1B Taliban.

Every democratic candidate who caters to the black community.

Like white politicans don't come bearing gifts for their constituents? The biggest handouts go to the richest 5% of this country.

I didn't say he was a racist, I said the use of the term is racist.

Which makes the one USING the term a racist as well.

And spare me the "Tupac used it too" bullshit.

I also didn't defend his motives, I said I understood his motives.

Yea, I understand his motives as well. He uses his rhetoric to tear apart people and to hurt people. Fuck him.

This whole episode once again clearly proves how intellectually dishonest the Democrat's message is. They are for racial, and minority equality ONLY if those groups are Liberal, and vote in large blocks for their party.

If your're a Black conservitive you're vilified and labeled an Uncle Tom.

BTW.. I'm just wondering, anyone seen any comments by Barack Obama on this episode??......... didn't think so.

ChargerMike wrote:This whole episode once again clearly proves how intellectually dishonest the Democrat's message is. They are for racial, and minority equality ONLY if those groups are Liberal, and vote in large blocks for their party.

First off Mike, it is "Democrats" not "Democrat's", unless you just happened to be referring to one particular Democrat.

Secondly, you continually refer to "Democrats" as some kind of monolithic block while simultaneously decrying the block mentality. Olga Korbut ain't got nothin on those metal gymnastics.

If your're a Black conservitive you're vilified and labeled an Uncle Tom.

Nothing wrong with being conservative. Let me know when you find one in the Republican Party.

BTW.. I'm just wondering, anyone seen any comments by Barack Obama on this episode??......... didn't think so.

Why the hell would Obama have anything to say on an election in Maryland?

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:This whole episode once again clearly proves how intellectually dishonest the Democrat's message is. They are for racial, and minority equality ONLY if those groups are Liberal, and vote in large blocks for their party.

First off Mike, it is "Democrats" not "Democrat's", unless you just happened to be referring to one particular Democrat.

Secondly, you continually refer to "Democrats" as some kind of monolithic block while simultaneously decrying the block mentality. Olga Korbut ain't got nothin on those metal gymnastics.

If your're a Black conservitive you're vilified and labeled an Uncle Tom.

Nothing wrong with being conservative. Let me know when you find one in the Republican Party.

BTW.. I'm just wondering, anyone seen any comments by Barack Obama on this episode??......... didn't think so.

Why the hell would Obama have anything to say on an election in Maryland?

...touche on the apostrophe, I think, according to the rule (as I remember it) wouldn't it be Democrats'?

Those were Democrats throwing Oreo cookies, were they not?

Zel Miller is conservative!..oop's I forgot.

Obama is the Dem's. answer to all that ail's the party...right?

BSmack wrote:

DrDetroit wrote:But I thought you said he was being attacked because of his policy decisions that would be detrimental to the black community? Funny that the first thing you come up with something wholly unrelated to the welfare of blacks.

If you think segregated country clubs don't have an impact on the black community, then we can just feel free to discount all of your bullshit about real upward mobility for those who just work hard and live right.

Sorry, but private club memerships simply do not affect the black community...in any way, well, only to race hustlers who want to pedle that kind of bullshit.

Please explain how private membership associations affect the black community?

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Why the hell would Obama have anything to say on an election in Maryland?

Because he's a n..igger.

Now this is where OC Mike jumps in and says he understands how pmscal is using the N-Bomb. You know, how he just applies it to the lowest elements of a particular racial group and not as a blanket slur towards those he disagrees with.

B:

Like white politicans don't come bearing gifts for their constituents? The biggest handouts go to the richest 5% of this country.

Bwahahahahaaaa...sorry, but to hand something out, you must actually give something away. Tax savings realized from rate reductions or legal deductions are simply not "handouts." It's why your argument that Bush gave the rich anything with his tac cuts is so foolish. There was nothing to give back because nothing had yet to be realized.

Nothing wrong with being conservative. Let me know when you find one in the Republican Party.

Fucking idiot.

Nice dodge, btw.

Why the hell would Obama have anything to say on an election in Maryland?

You would think that an elected black leader would stand up for his brother against obvious and disgusting racial attacks.

You would think. :roll:

ChargerMike wrote:...touche on the apostrophe, I think, according to the rule (as I remember it) wouldn't it be Democrats'?

No need to use a possessive apostrophe. It is just Democrats. However, if you wanted to really tighten it up, you should have gone with something like

"This whole episode once again clearly proves how intellectually dishonest the Democratic message is."

Much more elegant, if not more factual. But hey, we work with the clay we have, not the clay we wish we had.

Those were Democrats throwing Oreo cookies, were they not? Zel Miller is conservative!..oop's I forgot.

Last I checked, Zell Miller was still a registered Democrat. As is Lieberman. Which only serves to prove my point that your constant assertions that Democrats move and think in a block manner are woefully off base.

Obama is the Dem's. answer to all that ail's the party...right?

He's got game. Game goes a long way.

BSmack wrote:

ChargerMike wrote:...touche on the apostrophe, I think, according to the rule (as I remember it) wouldn't it be Democrats'?

No need to use a possessive apostrophe. It is just Democrats. However, if you wanted to really tighten it up, you should have gone with something like

"This whole episode once again clearly proves how intellectually dishonest the Democratic message is."

Much more elegant, if not more factual. But hey, we work with the clay we have, not the clay we wish we had.

Those were Democrats throwing Oreo cookies, were they not? Zel Miller is conservative!..oop's I forgot.

Last I checked, Zell Miller was still a registered Democrat. As is Lieberman. Which only serves to prove my point that your constant assertions that Democrats move and think in a block manner are woefully off base.

Obama is the Dem's. answer to all that ail's the party...right?

He's got game. Game goes a long way.

Yes, I realize Zel is still a Democrat..thus the "oop's"

Tell me this, when is the last time the Democrats gave Miller or Lieberman any run or spotlight? They keep the conservatives of the party so wrapped they are never seen let alone heard.
Conversely, their convention features such political stalwart's as Ed Asner, Alec Baldwin, Ben Affleck, Barbara Streisand, and of course Michael Moore. "Celiberals" were front and center, while Lieberman was kept well out of sight.

There may be a conservative or two , but there is certainly no conservative voice in the Democratic party!

Yeah, Obama has "game." He talks it with the best, like most Black Democratic politicians...too bad it's still the same old "woe is us" bullshit...

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote: a blanket slur towards those he disagrees with.

In other words, I just use it the same way that Dr. Detroits use Uncle Tom.

Just like a 5 year old. Typical.

ChargerMike wrote:Yes, I realize Zel is still a Democrat..thus the "oop's"

The oops are all ours. Most Democrats would kick his ass out if it were possible. Maybe he could challenge me to a duel and I'd play the opposite of Chris Matthews and kick his sorry ass. He's a fucking loon, no matter what his pursuasion.

Tell me this, when is the last time the Democrats gave Miller or Lieberman any run or spotlight? They keep the conservatives of the party so wrapped they are never seen let alone heard.
Conversely, their convention features such political stalwart's as Ed Asner, Alec Baldwin, Ben Affleck, Barbara Streisand, and of course Michael Moore. "Celiberals" were front and center, while Lieberman was kept well out of sight.

There may be a conservative or two , but there is certainly no conservative voice in the Democratic party!

Yea, the GOP never uses celebrities in their campaigns. How's that experiment going in "Caul-i-fornia"?



But back to the matter at hand. Namely, this illusion that the Democratic party is somehow more socialist than the Republican party. The simple truth is that the GOP is not any more or less socialist than the Democrats. What was Bush's first action after Katrina? A welfare handout. The difference between the Dems and the GOP is that the Dems pay more lip service towards the idea of giving back something to the poor and middle class. While the GOP would rather dry fuck the poor and give out welfare to big oil.

"Yea, the GOP never uses celebrities in their campaigns. How's that experiment going in "Caul-i-fornia"?"

Not so well, the Unions have emptied their considerable coffer's to keep the state under their control. Now Alec Baldwin and the Hollyweird yokels are forking large. Change is difficult if not impossible when you're up against the money of those two forces.

Bushice wrote:When it comes to propositions they should outlaw TV and radio ads by either side, and have the money go to an independent firm to produce truthful ads that reflect what they actually do, the potential positive and negative affects, and nothing more. None of these lying ass teachers and nurses being paid to say whatever they want them to say.

Deception isn't allowed in product advertising, it shouldn't be allowed in political ads.

The fact that any fucking group with money can pay for TV ads and lie to the public is appalling and is the real reason why most initiative won't pass. People vote no on things they can't understand because of all of the contradictory buillshit allowed to be spewed over the airwaves.

Even with today's grammar lesson, I couldn't have said it better.

Everyone would have to agree with these statements RIGHT?

BSmack wrote: No, as a matter of fact, YOU are an Uncle Tom in your dealings with the T1B Taliban.

Whatever. They're just words. You give ten times more weight to them by reacting the way you do, then I do by saying I don't agree with it, but know what his intentions are.

Like white politicans don't come bearing gifts for their constituents? The biggest handouts go to the richest 5% of this country.

Ohhhhh...so it's okay because everyone does it. Nice going, hypocrite.

BSmack wrote:

Variable wrote:WHAAAAAA!!!! THEY DO IT TOO!!!

Real stunning defense there.

Which makes the one USING the term a racist as well.

And spare me the "Tupac used it too" bullshit.

"Racist" refers to an entire race. mvscal and most others on this board that use the term, use it to refer to specific people, which would make them bigots, not racists. Didn't you go to college, dude?

Yea, I understand his motives as well. He uses his rhetoric to tear apart people and to hurt people. Fuck him.

Uh, this IS a smack site. If you're looking for Chicken Soup for the Soul-type fare, you're in the wrong place, Slappy.

ChargerMike wrote:Not so well, the Unions have emptied their considerable coffer's to keep the state under their control. Now Alec Baldwin and the Hollyweird yokels are forking large. Change is difficult if not impossible when you're up against the money of those two forces.

Give me a break Mike. The GOP is raising money hand over fist. The reason Arnie has failed in California is because he sucks total ass as a politician.

Bushice wrote:When it comes to propositions they should outlaw TV and radio ads by either side, and have the money go to an independent firm to produce truthful ads that reflect what they actually do, the potential positive and negative affects, and nothing more. None of these lying ass teachers and nurses being paid to say whatever they want them to say.

Deception isn't allowed in product advertising, it shouldn't be allowed in political ads.

The fact that any fucking group with money can pay for TV ads and lie to the public is appalling and is the real reason why most initiative won't pass. People vote no on things they can't understand because of all of the contradictory buillshit allowed to be spewed over the airwaves.

Even with today's grammar lesson, I couldn't have said it better.

Everyone would have to agree with these statements RIGHT?

Who wouldn't?

Variable wrote:Whatever. They're just words. You give ten times more weight to them by reacting the way you do, then I do by saying I don't agree with it, but know what his intentions are.

Then feel free to go down to Compton and drop a few n-bombs. See how many people agree with you.

Ohhhhh...so it's okay because everyone does it. Nice going, hypocrite.

I didn't say it was wrong, did I?

Politics is all about bringing home the bacon.

"Racist" refers to an entire race. mvscal and most others on this board that use the term, use it to refer to specific people, which would make them bigots, not racists. Didn't you go to college, dude?

Think of it like the sun rising in the east. After you hear him use the word so many times, you know he's not just refering to a single person.

Uh, this IS a smack site. If you're looking for Chicken Soup for the Soul-type fare, you're in the wrong place, Slappy.

A smack site yes. I didn't think we were turing into a Klan site.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Then feel free to go down to Compton and drop a few n-bombs. See how many people agree with you.

In other words, you agree that Dr. Detroits are violent, murderous scum.

Hey, he's the one who said its just a word. How about you and Mike go do your Lenny Bruce routine in a place where it matters?

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:

mvscal wrote: In other words, you agree that Dr. Detroits are violent, murderous scum.

Why yes, of course I agree.

There ya go.

holy shit, reality is starting to unravel.

BSmack wrote: Then feel free to go down to Compton and drop a few n-bombs. See how many people agree with you.

If you join me and agree to drop "Uncle Tom" on a few residents, which according to you isn't a slur, I'll be happy to. I can run faster than you can. :D

Think of it like the sun rising in the east. After you hear him use the word so many times, you know he's not just refering to a single person.

Maybe so, but I'm sure the way you and others get your arms flailing every time he does it has a thing or two to do with the frequency as well.

A smack site yes. I didn't think we were turing into a Klan site.

If you have that big of a problem with it, send a PM to one of the moderators of this forum about it directly(psst...that's me) and request a change. As far as I'm concered, group rules are voted on by the group...as long as they don't involve shit porn or something. Bushice has stated in the past that he generally feels the same way.

If you have that big of a problem with it, send a PM to one of the moderators of this forum about it directly(psst...that's me) and request a change. As far as I'm concered, group rules are voted on by the group...as long as they don't involve shit porn or something. Bushice has stated in the past that he generally feels the same way.

Consider this a PM then. Do whatever you want to do. Just don't expect me to treat him with any respect whatsoever.