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mvscal wrote:He's said he's coming back numerous times this year and as recently as this week. The Rose Bowl changes nothing.

Maybe a leopard can change his spots.

Mvscal suddenly has faith in the word of a m.vscal, even though there's money to buy crack and forties on the line...

Will wonders never cease?

DallasFanatic wrote:Winning a heisman trophy solidifies your spot in the HOF.

Sincerely,

Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Vinnie Testaverde
Doug Flutie

I'm sure glad I didn't make that list.

Sin,
Ron Dayne

Sirfindafold wrote:

mvscal wrote:He's said he's coming back numerous times this year and as recently as this week. The Rose Bowl changes nothing.

Wishful thinking from a lowly chargerfan knowing that they will have the first pick in next year's draft.

Sirfindafag take a look behind you....Al's fucking you again......

DallasFanatic wrote:Winning a heisman trophy solidifies your spot in the HOF.

Sincerely,

Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Vinnie Testaverde
Doug Flutie

See where I'm going with this? Heisman means shit and Mack Daddy even knows Vince is gone. He has until the 15th to declare. Bank on it.

Hey-
You forgot us!

Sin,
Desmond Howard
Rashaan Salaam

mvscal wrote:

DallasFanatic wrote:Winning a heisman trophy solidifies your spot in the HOF.

Sincerely,

Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Gino Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Vinnie Testaverde
Doug Flutie

See where I'm going with this?

No, I don't. It has nothing at all to do with the point that winning the Heisman is important personal goal to him.

You think that hardware means more than 50 million dollars? Didn't think so dumbass.

Improve dramatically his draft position at 3 or better? He may stay, but you act like you have talked with him personally about this.

I think the top three are still going :

Bush

Lienart

Ferguson


If Young declares , I think he would fall below the #5 pick .

But , who knows after the combine .

mvscal wrote:He's not a top three pick this year.

Wrong, again.

Assuming he turns pro, where was Vince Young in the draft process before the Rose Bowl and where is he now?
Before the game, Young would have been anywhere from third to seventh and now he is possibly No. 1. If Young comes out, he will now be one of the top three picks, more likely No. 2 and maybe the first pick in the draft.

Assuming he comes out, Young made himself a lot of money with his performance in the Rose Bowl.

Mel Kiper, yeah, I know, but he has about a million times more credibility than you do.

BBMarley wrote:
Hey-
You forgot us!

Sin,
Desmond Howard

Uhm, bro... I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Desmond Howard also won a Super Bowl MVP.

mvscal wrote:Right now, he's a borderline first rounder.

You're high.

Dinsdale wrote:

BBMarley wrote:
Hey-
You forgot us!

Sin,
Desmond Howard

Uhm, bro... I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Desmond Howard also won a Super Bowl MVP.

Texans sign Kubiak as coach

Texans don't offer Carr the signing bonus

Texans draft Vince Young

^Very possible scenario......that works.

However, I would still rather keep Carr and draft Bush. Bush is a combo of Sanders' running ability with Faulk's speed and hands. The hype is real.

Mvscal, before the Rose Bowl most everyone including Vince himself said he was coming back for his senior year. That tone changed drastically last night. Relisten to the interviews.

rack poptart and joe


Bush has to be used correctly. See Faulk, he struggled in Indy as a every down back. Was correctly used in stl, and became a dominant weapon for the lambs!


White will be the best Pro out of the bunch. He has Bush speed, but has the power and pop to run over guys and run the ball 25-30 times a game.



If Lendale white comes out(guy on radio says he is(family member of white said so) ) he will go top5, pending on trades and who's on the clock!


If New Orleans takes Leinhart they are idiots, Trade down, get a couple picks, pickup some help and draft your needs. There are journeymen QB's that will be available to fill in! you could still get the Kid from Vandy midto late in draft!

Adelpiero wrote: White will be the best Pro out of the bunch. He has Bush speed, but has the power and pop to run over guys and run the ball 25-30 times a game.

How's the crack that you've been smoking?

Reggie Bush could beat White in a sprint if he was walking. That was the dumbest thing that I've read all day.

White is good but if you think that he has Bush's speed, you need a reality check.

Dinsdale wrote:

BBMarley wrote:
Hey-
You forgot us!

Sin,
Desmond Howard

Uhm, bro... I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Desmond Howard also won a Super Bowl MVP.

Bad inclusion... I was thinking his history as a reciever which sucked. Forgot about '97

rozy wrote:Texans sign Kubiak as coach

Texans don't offer Carr the signing bonus

Texans draft Vince Young

^Very possible scenario......that works.

However, I would still rather keep Carr and draft Bush. Bush is a combo of Sanders' running ability with Faulk's speed and hands. The hype is real.

There is no way the Texans will draft Young this year, IMO. Drafting a QB to be your starter basically means starting over and I don't think McNair is ready to do that or he would have fired Casserly along with Capers. Of course, you can point to Eli as an exception to the rule, but you're looking at three or four more seasons of re-building if you take Young, regardless of how much of a freak he is.

Personally, I think he stays in college and gives the Texans a shot at him next draft following another abysmal season.

Adelpiero wrote:See Faulk, he struggled in Indy as a every down back.

Uhm, bro -- I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Marshall Marshall Marshall had multiple seasons with over 2000 yards from scrimmage in Indy as an every down back.

I guess it's too bad that Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Marcus Allen, Walter Payton, and a whole bunch of other guys had so many season where they struggled so badly.

Rack Fu wrote:

Adelpiero wrote: White will be the best Pro out of the bunch. He has Bush speed, but has the power and pop to run over guys and run the ball 25-30 times a game.

How's the crack that you've been smoking?

Reggie Bush could beat White in a sprint if he was walking. That was the dumbest thing that I've read all day.

White is good but if you think that he has Bush's speed, you need a reality check.

Your right

White runs a 4.41 in the 40
Bush runs a 4.4 in 40

Dinsdale wrote:

Adelpiero wrote:See Faulk, he struggled in Indy as a every down back.

Uhm, bro -- I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Marshall Marshall Marshall had multiple seasons with over 2000 yards from scrimmage in Indy as an every down back.

if your going to bust balls, atleast get the facts right, Faulk had 1 season with 2K from scrimmage!

He was not a run it up the gut, every down,30+ carries a game RB, which is Why Indy traded him away for a 2nd rounder and a 5th rounder. a 2nd and a 5th rounder was a steal for a player of his caliber.

he averaged for his indy career 17 carries per game.

I stand corrected -- MMM had ONE season in Indy over 2000YFS. This in no way changes the fact you're a fucking idiot.

Adelpiero wrote:

Rack Fu wrote:

Adelpiero wrote: White will be the best Pro out of the bunch. He has Bush speed, but has the power and pop to run over guys and run the ball 25-30 times a game.

How's the crack that you've been smoking?

Reggie Bush could beat White in a sprint if he was walking. That was the dumbest thing that I've read all day.

White is good but if you think that he has Bush's speed, you need a reality check.

Your right

White runs a 4.41 in the 40
Bush runs a 4.4 in 40

I've seen numbers as low as 4.2 for Bush.