T1B

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:12 am**

I've just looked Wallace up and apparently he was Klan leader...

The Democrats hate when you call them a Klan.

And try rereading this thread before you start talking about hijackings, Bushise.

I didn't bring this shit up.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:25 am**

mvscal wrote:So bascially all you're doing here is whimpering like a bitch. No ideas or suggestions for doing things differently. No evidence or suggestion of illegal activity...but no shortage of flappy vaglips.

Got it.

No evidence of illegal activity?

That is our government in a nutshell, illegal activity, you know making up shit about Iraq while Saudia Arabia rides free (and Bin Laden gets a US free Saudia Arabia) then following that up with some bullshit about protecting us from Iran by invading Iraq, while they get nukes and so does the North Koreans.

I can not for the life of me figure out why Bushcise responds to you fucking nutjobs. He has not once figured out that you can't post an intellectual response while America has you sucking off every pissed of black guy.

Houston believes you are doing a piss poor job, but I myself, understand you have to0 much dick to suck off.

The catastrophe was astounding and no American understood the garbage stacked at the curb and the numbers of black men wanting to be sucked off.

You are a Great American. We are a failure of a nation and your ilk understands that. When we are third world, I will ring you up and thank you for your paronage, while so many Americans bashed your love of black cock you were a true patriot in the field.

many political points were made in this post. For example mvscal's retarded belief that nothing illegal was occuring in his country. And his lack of knowledge of how allowing a couple of gas companies to rule over the US is inherently anti-democratic. He also displayed his ignorance of how a president is to ensure that monopolies do not exist for a free market to exist. See the Railroad Industry.

I'm done and if any of you still take these fucks as having legit arguments then this country really is in the shitter. It's like discussing anti-black violence with the Klan in the 60's. Limbaughs crowd is dated and should have been shot dead years ago.

Carry on if you are fucking stupid enough.

I'll go start a thread on Main Street about me being abducted by aliens, because I'm sure someone will debate that fucking psychotic fact and believe that I could be telling the truth.

If you haven't figured out that the Republican agenda is to lead Area 51 dickfucks to vote, you are a sad fucking idiot.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:30 am**

Have none of you fucking idiots realized who stated "what" in my sig? Realize that and you will understand why Limbaugh is a treason. And that fuck believes treason is an executable offense.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:34 am**

No hijacking here, Dio - it has to do with the larger point of frustration. Re-read the thread. And yeah, it involves a bit more than mindlessly arranging your quotes and columns into a phalanx and battering a secterian opponent into circular arguements and ultimate boredom.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:59 am**

I see no hijacking at all. Besides, I started the thread, and it has stayed on topic for several pages. If it drifts off naturally at this point to some related topic, so what? If it deserves to be split, it'll happen.

Talk about Dr. Anal. Good thing the milk and cookies are here. Someone is a wittle cwanky.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 6:48 am**

Fuck this shit, I'm still pissed off.

Record Triple Profits when said refinery capacity was off line is pure bullshit. Eat your losses like every other business has to. When you you have a monopoly/cartel on a commodity that is neccessary for the economic well being of the nation as a whole then the Feds need to regulate said commodity. Bush is an asshole and he is letting big oil rape and pillage the economy for short term profits, neglecting the well being of the nation with no regard to the long term outlook of our nation.

Show me that most of these profits are being put back into R&D for energy sources not reliant on middle eastern oil and I will stop being pissed off.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:57 am**

atomicdad wrote:Fuck this shit, I'm still pissed off.

Record Triple Profits when said refinery capacity was off line is pure bullshit. Eat your losses like every other business has to. When you you have a monopoly/cartel on a commodity that is neccessary for the economic well being of the nation as a whole then the Feds need to regulate said commodity. Bush is an asshole and he is letting big oil rape and pillage the economy for short term profits, neglecting the well being of the nation with no regard to the long term outlook of our nation.

Show me that most of these profits are being put back into R&D for energy sources not reliant on middle eastern oil and I will stop being pissed off.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WAR ~ Socialism

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:49 pm**

When you you have a monopoly/cartel on a commodity that is neccessary for the economic well being of the nation as a whole ...

Leave the Teacher's unions out of this.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:31 pm**

Diogenes wrote:When you you have a monopoly/cartel on a commodity that is neccessary for the economic well being of the nation as a whole ...

Leave the Teacher's unions out of this.

Bastard!

sin

Home schoolers

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:05 pm**

This has got to be the worst logic spin mvscal has ever posted.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:07 pm**

Mister Bushice wrote:This has got to be the worst logic spin mvscal has ever posted.

The sad thing is he's ripping that take straight from Detard.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:21 pm**

Mikey wrote:I'm just glad that Bush finally came out strongly against human-animal hybrids. Pretty much changed my whole opinion about the man, 'cause I am all over that shit. I don't know about you but I'm not quite ready to see any dog-men (man-dogs?) moving into my neighborhood.

~Does this make me a racist?~

:?

...umm, I would consider dog-men over the illegals that have inudated the San Fernando Valley. They could pick AND protect, and probably maintain a cleaner neighborhood!

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:00 pm**

mvscal wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:This has got to be the worst logic spin mvscal has ever posted.
There's nothing to spin, dipshit. Making profits even record profits is not against the law. The fact that you don't like it is just tough fucking shit for you.

Trying to explain anything to do with economics to Babshice & B-Monica is about as useless as explaining to Irie that meth rots your teeth.

1. Due to the amount of dollars involved, and the fact that crude oil prices hit all time highs last year, there's no way the oil companies are NOT going to have record profits. This has nothing to do with the return on invested dollar, however.

2. Why shouldn't the stockholders reap the rewards of these record profits? Many times over the last 20 years, the oil companies and the stockholders lost their asses- and nobody was feeling sorry for them then, particularly not the Left.

3. Go ahead, atomicdad, & be pissed off at the fact that gasoline is available, even if somewhat expensive. How pissed off would you be if gas wasn't available at any price?

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:06 pm**

If you told them that, they'd just cover their ears & chant over & over in unison "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:08 pm**

Cuda wrote:
2. Why shouldn't the stockholders reap the rewards of these record profits? Many times over the last 20 years, the oil companies and the stockholders lost their asses- and nobody was feeling sorry for them then, particularly not the Left.

And they were, and still are, collecting $billions in government subsidies. Maybe they should pay some of that back, or at least quit sucking on the government teat, while raking in those record profits.

"Gee we only made $10 billion last quarter. We need more tax breaks to spur domestic production!!! Oh, and all those refineries we closed in the 90s because of low demand? Well we're not going to reopen them unless you give us some more breaks."

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:25 pm**

Dumb fuck

1. Stop using MY avatard

2. "tax breaks" are not subsidies, nor, in the case of the oil companies really even tax breaks.

3. No refineries were closed due to low demand- not in the 90's or any other time, ever, fucktard. Refineries are closed for one reason and only one reason: they become too costly to maintain and operate. And government regulation is no small part of those costs.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:32 pm**

Uh....guess again shit-for-brains

about 1, 2, and 3.

(if tax breaks aren't even tax breaks, then what are they?)

[web]http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/pr/?postId=5110[/web]

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:40 pm**

Your "source" is a lefty "consumer advocacy" group?

"Support Universal Health Care" much?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for playing, shit-spoon.

You're all done now.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:47 pm**

Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:56 pm**

Cuda wrote:Your "source" is a lefty "consumer advocacy" group?

"Support Universal Health Care" much?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for playing, shit-spoon.

You're all done now.

Read the texaco Memo, Page 2, second paragraph. Tell me you think they're still honest and above board.

Just because a lefty group published it doesn't make the reality of the memos existence a moot point, and the fact that they are manipulating the market to drive up prices only proves what I've been saying.

The scary thing is their casual mention of changing the laws as if they are the ones to enact them!

You're the one who's done here, Cuda.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:05 pm**

mvscal wrote:
atomicdad wrote:Show me that most of these profits are being put back into R&D for energy sources not reliant on middle eastern oil and I will stop being pissed off.
If you want a say in how those profits are spent, buy their stock. If not, shut the fuck up, commie twit.

Stay the fuck away from T-Bills, is what you are saying. Just so I understand that you are an American hating cocksocking relief worker.

Posted: **Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:08 pm**

Cuda wrote:Your "source" is a lefty "consumer advocacy" group?

"Support Universal Health Care" much?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks for playing, shit-spoon.

You're all done now.

“The wackos get their information through the Christian right, Christian radio, mail, the internet and telephone trees. Simply put, we want to bring out the wackos to vote against something and make sure the rest of the public lets the whole thing slip past them.”

Sin,

Who's playing who. I fucking hate leftist nutty nutjobs as much as your ilk. What is fact is fact.

You are a toy and a puppet. Make a living donation of your cerebrum to someone who wouldn't waste it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:11 am**

Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.

The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".

You might as well have put up a link to The Democratic Underground. They're no less wacky and have every bit as much credibility as your so-called source

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:53 am**

Cuda wrote:
Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.
The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".

Okay, how about a Congressman......

http://www.house.gov/stupak/issues_gasprices.shtml

A recent General Accounting Office (there's that pesky GAO again) investigation concluded that gasoline refiners have intentionally limited their capacity to keep gasoline prices high and their profits up. For the consumer these higher energy costs are a disaster for our pocketbook and further stagnates our economy. The Washington Post ran an article a few weeks back outlining the fact that while the average local gas station only marked up their prices by five percent, refineries marked up their prices 255% from September 2004 to September 2005. While demand has increased, oil companies have decreased supply by limiting refinery capacity which has yielded gross, excessive profits. These refineries are guilty of price gouging.

Now, put on your tin foil hat and get to discrediting......

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:59 am**

Cuda wrote:
Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.
The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".

You might as well have put up a link to The Democratic Underground. They're no less wacky and have every bit as much credibility as your so-called source

I'm with Mikey on this one.

At least I will be the next time he or some other takeless lefty decides instead to just malign WND, freerepublic, NRO, newsmax....

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:02 am**

Diogenes wrote:
Cuda wrote:
Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.
The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".

You might as well have put up a link to The Democratic Underground. They're no less wacky and have every bit as much credibility as your so-called source
I'm with Mikey on this one.

At least I will be the next time he or some other takeless lefty decides instead to just malign WND, freerepublic, NRO, newsmax....

I can give you the link to the memos from Texaco, Mobil, and Shell if you'd like

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:03 am**

I tried that approach. Too logical.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:04 am**

Cuda wrote:
Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.
The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".

You might as well have put up a link to The Democratic Underground. They're no less wacky and have every bit as much credibility as your so-called source

Are you saying the memos were made up?
Did you even read it?

Could you possibly be a bigger tard?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:13 am**

Felix wrote:
Cuda wrote:
Mikey wrote:Typical ignorant response.

Your not liking the source doesn't in any way refute the facts, moron.
The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".
Okay, how about a Congressman......

Or maybe a US Senator.

“As observed over the last few years and as projected well into the future, the most critical factor facing the refining industry on the West Coast is the surplus refining capacity, and the surplus gasoline production capacity. The same situation exists for the entire U.S. refining industry. Supply significantly exceeds demand year-round. This results in very poor refinery margins, and very poor refinery financial results. Significant events need to occur to assist in reducing supplies and/or increasing the demand for gasoline.”
Internal Texaco document, March 7, 1996

http://wyden.senate.gov/leg_issues/repo ... report.pdf

Of course Wyden's just another whacko liberal Democrat flat tax fanatic.

Cuda won't believe any of this unless it comes straight from Cheney's mouth and is corroborated by Rush, so why even try?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:14 am**

Mikey wrote:
Felix wrote:
Cuda wrote: The source- in this case- totally discredits whatever bullshit they're peddling as "facts".
Okay, how about a Congressman......

Or maybe a US Senator.

“As observed over the last few years and as projected well into the future, the most critical factor facing the refining industry on the West Coast is the surplus refining capacity, and the surplus gasoline production capacity. The same situation exists for the entire U.S. refining industry. Supply significantly exceeds demand year-round. This results in very poor refinery margins, and very poor refinery financial results. Significant events need to occur to assist in reducing supplies and/or increasing the demand for gasoline.”
Internal Texaco document, March 7, 1996

Of course Wyden's just another whacko liberal Democrat flat tax fanatic.

Cuda won't believe any of this unless it comes straight from Cheney's mouth and is corroborated by Rush, so why even try?[/quote]

That quote is from Page two of the texaco memo, second paragraph. I mentioned it earlier, but Cuda and mvscal, as usual when confronted with a reality they have no answer for, ignored it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:16 am**

Sorry, I forgot to post the link to the whole report. There's a fair amount of documentary evidence there...

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:41 am**

Hell yes, but cuda saw who reported it and focused on that, rather than on the fact that the internal memos reflected the truth.

And our president supports that bullshit.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:50 am**

Mikey wrote:Sorry, I forgot to post the link to the whole report. There's a fair amount of documentary evidence there...

...that the companies in question were losing money in the mid 90s and seeking ways to stay afloat?

Got anything recent? Anything to show collusion, 'monopolistic' activities or criminal behavior?

But good of you to agree that idiots who respond to a post with the equivelant of "Newsmax? " or "WND :roll:" are just takeless pussies.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:17 pm**

Diogenes wrote:
Mikey wrote:Sorry, I forgot to post the link to the whole report. There's a fair amount of documentary evidence there...
...that the companies in question were losing money in the mid 90s and seeking ways to stay afloat?

Got anything recent? Anything to show collusion, 'monopolistic' activities or criminal behavior?

But good of you to agree that idiots who respond to a post with the equivelant of "Newsmax? " or "WND :roll:" are just takeless pussies.

Are you going to address anything pertaining to the link of government subsidies while being the most profitable business in History? Or are you just going to give us 3,000 more posts of absolute utter fucking garbage.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:24 pm**

....3,000 more posts of absolute utter fucking garbage.

Irony.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:33 pm**

Diogenes wrote:
Got anything recent?

september of 2005 isn't recent enough......

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:57 pm**

Felix wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Got anything recent?
september of 2005 isn't recent enough......

Sure.

As long as it isn't based on..

An internal 1996 memorandum....

The Texaco memo disclosed how the industry believed in the mid-1990s that....

At least Wyden's 'report' was from this century {June 2001 :roll:)

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:50 pm**

You mean the one that was titled "Future Gasoline Specifications"?

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:58 pm**

Diogenes wrote:....3,000 more posts of absolute utter fucking garbage.

Irony.

You can't smack, you aren't creative, you aren't intelligent, you don't contribute in anyway.

Typical "self claimed Republican" leeching off everything you possibly can. This board isn't your hobby. A hobby is something you are somewhat creative at. When it comes to politics, its regurgitating Limbaugh's Letter. When its smack its this "irony" garbage.

I can't even call it smack. You might as well grab a handfull of coins and throw it at your keyboard and let the keys that have been hit, submitted.

Posted: **Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:09 pm**

Diogenes wrote:
Felix wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Got anything recent?
september of 2005 isn't recent enough......

Sure.

As long as it isn't based on..

An internal 1996 memorandum....

The Texaco memo disclosed how the industry believed in the mid-1990s that....

At least Wyden's 'report' was from this century {June 2001 :roll:)

Read the rest of the thread, dumbshit.
Then think about how the oil business works.

Then off yourself. Please.

T1B

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