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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:26 pm
by Van
But see, most Character Trolls love to load you up with all their bullshit personal info so you always have all sorts of ammo to use against them.
As for them knowing about you? That's not a problem if you have nothing to hide.
I guess I just prefer dealing from a position of strength rather than one of deception.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:29 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Van wrote:But see, most Character Trolls love to load you up with all their bullshit personal info so you always have all sorts of ammo to use against them.
Maybe you and I are looking at different character trolls, in that case. Most of the ones I encounter tend to hide personal info. About themselves, anyway. Now, OTOH, if they get hold of someone else's personal info, look out.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:37 pm
by Van
I'm only talking about their manufactured bullshit personal info, not their real stuff. You use what you can. I don't pay attention to the real personal info dramas around here.
Besides, it's a moot point where you're concerned because you have absolutely nothing in your real personal life that anybody could ever hope to effectively use against you. You got hit by knuckleheads about racial crap and the like, which amounts to nothing...
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:46 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Van wrote:I'm only talking about their manufactured bullshit personal info, not their real stuff. You use what you can.
Okay, I see what you're getting at now. Having said that, while I have a lot of passion for debating certain ideas, my passion dims considerably for exchanging personal insults. And sadly, that's what many threads devolve to. I'm beginning to find this place, other than the sports forums, increasingly boring of late, and I suspect that's a good part of the reason why.
I don't pay attention to the real personal info dramas around here.
Neither do I. If someone wants to disclose their real name to me, that's cool; if not, that's okay, too. I know the real names of a few posters here, as well as some former posters, but I never would disclose them to anybody else without permission of that particular poster.
Besides, it's a moot point where you're concerned because you have absolutely nothing in your real personal life that anybody could ever hope to effectively use against you. You got hit by knuckleheads about racial crap and the like, which amounts to nothing...
Again, see my first response, beginning with the second sentence.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:52 pm
by Moving Sale
Van wrote:
Can you imagine if TVO was as confrontational and abusive in real life as he is here??
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:56 pm
by Goober McTuber
Terry and Van engaged in passionate intercourse on the best methods for debating with trolls. Must see TV.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:04 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Moving Sale wrote:Van wrote:
Can you imagine if TVO was as confrontational and abusive in real life as he is here??
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How about if mvscal were as confrontational and abusive in real life as he is here?
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Methinks he wouldn't sell too many cars that way.
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:04 pm
by Van
Mvscal is a car salesman??
I somehow missed that little nugget.
:-)
"No, ma'am, you don't need the gold package. Bling or no bling you'll still be stupid, fat and repulsive so do society a favor and use that money towards getting your windows tinted really dark. I don't want to have to look at you if it can be prevented. Fuck, you're disgusting.
Anyway, you filthy cunt, sign here..."
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:10 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Van wrote:Mvscal is a car salesman??
I somehow missed that little nugget.
:-)
According to some on the board, anyway. Either that, or it's a running joke among certain posters. As you said earlier, "you use what you can."
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:24 pm
by Screw_Michigan
Van wrote:
"No, ma'am, you don't need the gold package. Bling or no bling you'll still be stupid, fat and repulsive so do society a favor and use that money towards getting your windows tinted really dark. I don't want to have to look at you if it can be prevented. Fuck, you're disgusting.
Anyway, you filthy cunt, sign here..."
rack the fuck out of that.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:45 am
by Moving Sale
Terry in Crapchester wrote: And we don't resort to calling each other dumbfuck, moron or the like.
However, it is 'fun' to ask cops questions on the stand when you know the answer is something like: "He said 'shut the fuck up asshole.'" Or The one time when I had my client under oath and I asked him what the guy he hit called him right before he hit him when I know the answer is: "He called me a 'n*gger.'"
Good times.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:25 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Moving Sale wrote:Terry in Crapchester wrote: And we don't resort to calling each other dumbfuck, moron or the like.
However, it is 'fun' to ask cops questions on the stand when you know the answer is something like: "He said 'shut the fuck up asshole.'"
Yeah, that's fun. But if I'm reading you right, that wouldn't show your client in a very favorable light with the jury. So I'd usually avoid that question.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:52 pm
by The Whistle Is Screaming
mvscal wrote:Van wrote:Mvscal is a car salesman??
I somehow missed that little nugget.
:-)
"No, ma'am, you don't need the gold package. Bling or no bling you'll still be stupid, fat and repulsive so do society a favor and use that money towards getting your windows tinted really dark. I don't want to have to look at you if it can be prevented. Fuck, you're disgusting.
Anyway, you filthy cunt, sign here..."
I know this is going to be difficult to believe, but I really don't have the aptitude or inclination for sales work of any kind.
With a "closing" technique like Van outlined above, you'd do great! :D
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:34 pm
by Invictus
Van wrote:Btw, FWIW that "interracial dating is like bears and tigers mating" debate was a funny fucking classic...
It most certainly was. The image has been playing out in my head and I keep laughing at my desk.
I miss Val and whoever was him had me buffaloed. I thought he was a real dude, especially when he had someone else tell about his motocross mishap. He and elgrande, just for their sheer stupidity, keep me glued to the board for months.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:40 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Invictus wrote:I miss Val and whoever was him had me buffaloed. I thought he was a real dude, especially when he had someone else tell about his motocross mishap.
I remember at one point, Y2K, when he was a mod, announced to the board that Val had never trolled. By that, I assume he meant that Val had never posted under another nic. Every time he hit submit, it would appear he was trolling. Unless he actually believed what he posted, in which case he would be just about the stupidest person on the face of the planet.
Of course, we all know that IP's can be changed/hidden/concealed if one is so inclined.
He and elgrande, just for their sheer stupidity, keep me glued to the board for months.
For the longest, I thought they were actually the same person. I actually called them on it once, on SCIII, which prompted a mini-melt from both.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:49 pm
by Invictus
No el was a real person. I got pms from him when I pissed him off a few years back. That was during the whole constuction barrel polo fiasco and I posted a pic of his juco baseball team. He was definately real. Real dumb.
I think some of the pure shock value from mvscal's posts are lessened since the filter was placed on the word "n. igger." His pure vitriole one moment, then a coagent political point, and then something funny after that make him a well round baiter. Cicero could learn a thing or two from him: effective race bating is not done all the time. Pick your spots and be coherent and interesting.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:51 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Invictus wrote:He was definately real. Real dumb.
No argument with that. I'm actually wondering how he managed to maintain academic eligibility long enough to play juco baseball, not that one needs to be a rocket scientist to get passing grades at the juco level.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:10 pm
by Van
Oh, I have no problem believing Val never trolled, iin terms of swapping nics and identities.
He was a Character Troll, plain and simple. One guy, one character.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:25 pm
by Headhunter
You guys seem to have a real hard time differentiating between a Troll and trolling. Two very distinct entities.
a Troll, for what it is worth, is a secondary nic of a poster.
Trolling is the act of posting something with the implicit intent of eliciting responses.
A Troll can troll, and you can go trolling with your primary nic.
Val was not a Troll. But he most assuredly was trolling.
1smoothG is a Troll, who is trolling.
The purposes of a Troll™ have been so bastardized over the years that it's not even funny. Trolls™ always stayed in character. They always trolled. Sometimes they would even troll themselves, to troll you, so they could troll you even further. Rootstaple was a master of this technique. It took patience and creativity. It was a work of art. The results were what we all came to love about SCIII.
Today, for the most part, a Troll is a pussy way of hiding behind another nic because you haven't got the balls to say something with your primary nic. I've been a Troll™ and I've trolled, but never hidden behind a nic to save face on my primary nic.
Glad I could clear this all up.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:34 pm
by Van
Well then, Val was a Troll who also trolled. Without a doubt he was a Character Troll.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:36 pm
by PSUFAN
^ come out from behind the troll, marcus allen.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:37 pm
by Raydah James
Invictus wrote: Cicero could learn a thing or two from him: effective race bating is not done all the time. Pick your spots and be coherent and interesting.
This is pure comedy gold coming from a gameless twat who hasnt brought dick to this fucking board in any way, shape, or form since its inception.
Do yourself a favor and shut your fucking jizzport, cunt.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:38 pm
by Headhunter
Val was not a Troll. But he most assuredly was trolling.
should have read...
Val was not a troll. He was a Troll™, who most assuredly was trolling.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:09 pm
by Biggie
:arrow:
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:09 pm
by Invictus
Raydah James wrote:Invictus wrote: Cicero could learn a thing or two from him: effective race bating is not done all the time. Pick your spots and be coherent and interesting.
This is pure comedy gold coming from a gameless twat who hasnt brought dick to this fucking board in any way, shape, or form since its inception.
Do yourself a favor and shut your fucking jizzport, cunt.
Don't you have a tight black tank top to model for all of your straight, band members boys? Why don't you shut your mouth and post only when someone asks you about weights, working out or what is the best foundation rouge combination to wear with a black blazer, bitch?
See Cicero, RJ didn't pick his spot too well and although he is a little more coherent than usual, he's still not very interesting.
Learn from his mistakes.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:11 pm
by Biggie
Headhunter wrote:a Troll and trolling. a Troll Trolling A Troll can troll, and you can go trolling not a Troll was trolling. is a Troll, who is trolling. The purposes of a Troll™ Trolls™ They always trolled. they troll themselves, to troll you, so they could troll you even further. a Troll is a pussy I've been a Troll™ and I've trolled
Glad I could clear this all up.
Hmmm...
For what it's worth, VALVENIS was an underwear model. Blondie and I
[font=Comic Sans MS]troll[/font]ed him into posting his picture one epic afternoon.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:20 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Invictus wrote:Raydah James wrote:Invictus wrote: Cicero could learn a thing or two from him: effective race bating is not done all the time. Pick your spots and be coherent and interesting.
This is pure comedy gold coming from a gameless twat who hasnt brought dick to this fucking board in any way, shape, or form since its inception.
Do yourself a favor and shut your fucking jizzport, cunt.
Don't you have a tight black tank top to model for all of your straight, band members boys? Why don't you shut your mouth and post only when someone asks you about weights, working out or what is the best foundation rouge combination to wear with a black blazer, bitch?
See Cicero, RJ didn't pick his spot too well and although he is a little more coherent than usual, he's still not very interesting.
Learn from his mistakes.
RJ swung and missed badly twice today with this type of post. I suppose we'll see if he strikes out.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:25 pm
by Moving Sale
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Yeah, that's fun. But if I'm reading you right, that wouldn't show your client in a very favorable light with the jury. So I'd usually avoid that question.
It wouldn't have been my client that said it... unless there was some reason to get that out of a cop when the DA hadn't already. I meant more when a Witness or Co-Defendant says something like that.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:48 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Gotcha now.
Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:40 pm
by Risa
W. Cohen wrote:For what it's worth, VALVENIS was an underwear model. Blondie and I [font=Comic Sans MS]troll[/font]ed him into posting his picture one epic afternoon.
please. that big headed blond dude with the e.t. forehead
was soooooooooo not really him.
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:19 pm
by Biggie
Screw you - I got over big time.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:41 am
by Dinsdale
Headhunter wrote:you can go trolling with your primary nic.
What?
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:44 am
by Moving Sale
Dinsdale wrote:Headhunter wrote:you can go trolling with your primary nic.
What?
You of all people should get that one...
...'cause that how you roll.
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:44 am
by Dinsdale
Me?
Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:52 am
by Moving Sale