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I was gonna mention the obligatory che T but comrade marty beat me to it.

Splain to me again why you are in that cold miserable place when you could be chillin' in a tropical worker's paradise like cuba?

If my daughter EVER brings home some che T/beret wearing POS, he will die, right there on the front steps.
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smackaholic wrote:If my daughter EVER brings home some che T/beret wearing POS, he will die, right there on the front steps.
What if he's wearing double denim? Perk's picture out front should forewarn you on that one.
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So, are we allowed to again go ahead and think of Martyred and Perk as being the same little denim dude?

Man, I sure hope so. I love the idea of all of Martyred's anti U.S. trolling spewing forth from a Cinder reject who looks like Bombur in a Wrangler's cloak...
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smackaholic wrote:I was gonna mention the obligatory che T but comrade marty beat me to it.

Splain to me again why you are in that cold miserable place when you could be chillin' in a tropical worker's paradise like cuba?

If my daughter EVER brings home some che T/beret wearing POS, he will die, right there on the front steps.
How 'bout if he wore this one?:

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Van wrote:So, are we allowed to again go ahead and think of Martyred and Perk as being the same little denim dude?
I thought we never stopped thinking that.
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Getting back to the original question here, American soldiers as usual will have no choice of whether to "fight for Israel"--any morwe than they have a choice now in Iraq--which is certanly "fighting for Israel."

Mel Gibson may indeed be a lunatic, but his charge of Jews starting wars is certainly dead on the money when it comes to these current nightmares--Iraq and Lebanon.

And of course by "Jews" we don't mean Jerry Seinfeld, Sandy Koufax, or Lou down at the neighborhood deli. No, we mean the actual group of prominent neocons--principally but hardly confined to the Project For The New American Century--guys like Podhoretz, Kristol (both), Feith, Bolton (both), Wolfowitz, Zakheim, Zoellick, Kissenger, Abrams, Scooter Libby, and of course the Lord of Death himself, Richard Pearle.

These are some of the principle proponents and instigators of the current wars,

Would you fight for them? Or will you fight against them?
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:

Mel Gibson may indeed be a lunatic, but he is certainly dead on the money
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Personally, I hope we DO side with Israel. We're far better with precision bombing then they are. Beside, we're running low on cool AC-130 video's of our boys mowing down terrorists on foot.

I'd like to see President Bush make a gift of 10,000 shotguns loaded and ready for the Army of Israel to shot anything that moves in Southern Lebenon. Men, women, childern, cattle, goats. Anything that moves. They should use only ammo coated in pigs blood and they should raze the town. The only thing that should be upright should be the spikes that hold the heads of the town elders.

Then we should invade Iran. Not all wussy-like like we're doing in Iraq, but balls to the wall like we did in Afganistan. Once there, we should use the bible as an inspiration and kill all their soldiers, and their family, and kill the first born of every family just so they know we're serious.

Then I would like them to get tons of salt and salt the land. Once there is salt, burn what is left.

Hey, Israel can have Beruit, we get Tehran for the win.

Tic-Tac-Toe.

Oh, and Syria will piss themselves with fright.

Why do I advocate this? Because arab culture is different. They respect strength, not mercy. Publishing video of us bombing the fuck outta some guy is respected, us putting Saddam on trial is not.

My plan gives us a lasting peace and us a huge oil supply.
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For someone calling himself "the Artist," your inspiration is petered out more than Rusp Limpdick's limp dick. Surely you can do better than regurgitated bigotry--served up like a big glob of ketchup on a plate of greasy fries.

Look, the fantasy of America--and Israel--somehow kicking ANYONE'S ass is repeatedly flung back in your silly gob by the plain facts over the past....oh, THIRTY YEARS.

Do you really think America's military can maintain its recruitment levels?

Do you think our teetering economy can sustain the astonishing cost of the current heinous occupation in Iraq?

How about our battered and staggering reputation in the world? Or doesn't that matter?

Attack Iran? Really?

As for Israel, this foaming pitbull has quickly spent whatever PR spin it has carefully developed over the years. It is a PARIAH, regardless of what the neocon/evengelical war- freak contingent insists.

Basically, your entire take is utter nonsense. Especially when you justify it by envisioning a "huge oil supply" as some sort of payoff for the ludicrous murder spree you propose.

Look, prior to all this Zionist bullshit, the Arabs were perfectly willing to sell us ALL the oil we wanted at a good price. Even after we established our vile support of the Zionists, the Arabs CONTINUED to do business with us in a perfectly fair manner.

What part of getting reamed by Cheney and his nutjob neocons don't you understand?

These fuckstains are the precise reason that oil has skyrocketed to $75.00 a barrel.

As for Arab culture, if we were to stop methodically undermining Arab societies--especially the secular ones--they wouldn't be forced to emigrate to a neighborhood near you. Wouldn't that be nice? Then you and your KFC, WalMart baptist world could live and grow fat in peace. You'd like that. Sure.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:
These fuckstains are the precise reason that oil has skyrocketed to $75.00 a barrel.
America isn't trying to steal anybody's oil, they just want to make sure that
it stays in the ground.

If you were an oil executive, would you say to yourself:
"Gee, let's steal other people's oil, so's we can flood the market, 'cause we're
making too much money at +$70 a barrell."

Use your fucking heads people. Bush isn't looking for more oil.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote: our our
us we we our us

You got a camel flea in your pocket?
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I'm not down with dying for Israel. No sir.

Again, what's wrong with West Hollywood, or Long Island? Who's twisting their arms to live in that shithole?

Maybe it's worth it to them. It's not worth the life of an American, though.
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Martyred wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
These fuckstains are the precise reason that oil has skyrocketed to $75.00 a barrel.
America isn't trying to steal anybody's oil, they just want to make sure that
it stays in the ground.

If you were an oil executive, would you say to yourself:
"Gee, let's steal other people's oil, so's we can flood the market, 'cause we're
making too much money at +$70 a barrell."

Use your fucking heads people. Bush isn't looking for more oil.

Exactly---extreme instablility is good for oil companies and defense industries--and bunker-bound race-states currently on high-alert. Excuse me, I never meant to suggest that the American neocon rabid Israel cabal (Project For New, etc) is concerned with profits per se. Theirs is a demented vision of Us vs. Them which unfortunately is IDENTICAL to that of the Nazis desperate paradigm.

Yes, the current American neocon cabal visiting its Orwellian nightmare upon Lebanon (you see it, expedited cruise missle shipments to the Israelis getting priority over relief and medical suppiles to the Lebanese victims--as Condi feigns a "prayer" :twisted: ) are Nazis--get used to it.

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mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Look, the fantasy of America--and Israel--somehow kicking ANYONE'S ass is repeatedly flung back in your silly gob by the plain facts over the past....oh, THIRTY YEARS.
Why don't you go ahead and link us up to a list of Arab military victories over the past....oh, THIRTY YEARS.

Thanks.



Test. This is a test to see if the board is working.....
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mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Look, the fantasy of America--and Israel--somehow kicking ANYONE'S ass is repeatedly flung back in your silly gob by the plain facts over the past....oh, THIRTY YEARS.
Why don't you go ahead and link us up to a list of Arab military victories over the past....oh, THIRTY YEARS.

Thanks.

First of all, bab's, who said the Arabs have won battles? No one said anything of the sort.

Point is, despite Israel's routine attacks on civilian populations, what have they won? Oh, they've won the ability to WALL THEMSELVES IN!!!!


And, since nuking civlian populations in WWII, America has defeated....whom?

Our standing in the world has been improved by.....attacking Panama? Attacking Somalia? Attacking Bosnia? Attacking Beruit in 1982?

Oh yeah, Desert Storm, the swaggering Defense Industry Trade Show, which won us.....well, tens of thousands of damged American servicemen.

Afghanistan, as usual, remains undefeated--and ultimately indominable.


And in NONE of these situations were Americans ever endangered by the nations invaded (the 9/11 box-cutter brigade were Saudis--not an Afghan among them).

The idea of invading Iran, Syria, N. Korea, Venezuala, or any other foe of Israel or the neocons, is a total fucking joke. We're so quagmired in Iraq it's a garrish nightmare. When the fuck are you going to wake up?

All the U.S. and Israel can do is bomb and fire missles. And this really doesn't work, except to engender hatred. And that will come home to bite one in the ass.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:

And, since nuking civlian populations in WWII, America has defeated....whom?



All the U.S. and Israel can do is bomb and fire missles - oh, and of course whenever WE use nuclear weapons WE win also...so maybe it is time for US or Israel to use tactical nukes....since they are so effective...
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Screw nuclear weapons. That's so "retro."

With all the advances in genetics, especially the Human Genome Project, it's just a matter of time before government scientists can custom-make a biological weapon designed to incapacitate or kill specific enemies (people, countries, etc.).

Some viral or bacterial DNA, a blender, and incubator, and VOILA!

And no inconvenient residual radiation mess!

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Well, you're right, Mike, and Israel has indeed developed a state of the art biological weapons lab--right outside of Tel Aviv.

Problem is for actual Nazis like the Israelis--and closet-freaks like you--is that such acts of criminality are detectable.

Believe it or not, Mikey, despite your head being packed with AIPAC sponsored propaganda concerning Israel and its "special" relationship with America, no one else in the world actually sees it that way.

True, Israel is a frothing pitbull with nukes, and would probably attack ANYONE who tries to stop its Nazi actions. But, it's also a welfare state that survives only by sucking, parasite-like, upon guilt-tripped handouts--mostly by the U.S.

As usual, the Christers in this country--a virus itself just like Zionism--are in a fever with their Apocalypse gibberish. The Israelis love that shit. They laugh their asses off at the moronic sheep Christers, and ramp up for more murder.

Suffice to say, it's a disaster which will not succeed.

The true Axis of Evil--Israel, U.S., and Britain, will not prevail, but only worsen the situation.
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:Problem is for actual Nazis like the Israelis--and closet-freaks like you--is that such acts of criminality are detectable.
Obviously, you're not aware of MST3K or you would have realized that my tossing up a pic of "Mad Scientist" Dr. Clayton Forrester was supposed to signal that the idea was nutty.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Believe it or not, Mikey, despite your head being packed with AIPAC sponsored propaganda concerning Israel and its "special" relationship with America, no one else in the world actually sees it that way.
My God, are you ALWAYS "on?" Give it a fucking rest and lighten up.

You know that you've won precisely ZERO converts with your Chicken Little bullshit, right? I mean, you might have a point somewhere in one of your insane vitriolic tirades, but at this point I think most of us would consider it one of those "blind squirrel-acorn" things...
LTS TRN 2 wrote:As usual, the Christers in this country--a virus itself just like Zionism--are in a fever with their Apocalypse gibberish. The Israelis love that shit. They laugh their asses off at the moronic sheep Christers, and ramp up for more murder.
OK. You obviously need a dosage adjustment, either upward or downward, 'cuz what you've got going just ain't cutting it.

Christianity is a virus. Right. And love is a drug. Ooooh yeah...
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The true Axis of Evil--Israel, U.S., and Britain, will not prevail, but only worsen the situation.
Oh, I see. The "TRUE" Axis of Evil. As opposed to the nations that gas their own citizens, execute those who insist on exercising religious freedom, starve their citizens, execute citizens for exercising freedom of speech...

You are a full-on nutjob who is rapidly becoming just another cat-turd in the sandbox that is this webboard...
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Mike the Lab Rat wrote:
You are a full-on nutjob who is rapidly becoming just another cat-turd in the sandbox that is this webboard...
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:
The true Axis of Evil--Israel, U.S., and Britain, will not prevail, but only worsen the situation.

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It's about time the US & Britain stopped holding Israel's hand. The question of wether the country has a right to exist has been settled for over half a fuckin' century. Why have they got to come running to us everytime some lobs a bomb at them. You wanted the soil, you got it. Now defend it and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
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"Lighten up," Mikey?

The bio-weapons lab outside Tel Aviv is REAL. And you think you're making a "joke"? The Israeli wermacht attack on the entire nation of Lebanon--billions in damage, a million or so people displaced, catastrophic conditions ahead--is REAL. And its a gross war-crime.

What the fuck are you doing? Making stupid childish "jokes" about murdering ALL the Arabs?

And you think I need "meds"?

You need a cattle prod stuck up your ass so you can wake the fuck up!

Is Christianity a virus? Sure, why not? Look how it spreads, and look what it does. Historically, it has promoted ignorance, intolerance, and war, not necessarily in that order.

What good has it ever produced?

As far as the U.S., Britain, and Israel comprising the True Axis Of Evil, well, consider that Britain and the U.S. first carved up Mesapotania into the cobbled state of Iraq--gassing the Kurds in 1920 when they resisted such Western manipulation. Consider that Britain and the U.S. were the principal promoters of the imposition of the race-state of Israel in the midst of the Arab world--guaranteeing instability for the indefinite future.
As for Israel being a solid member of the Axis, consider their unchecked history of murder, theft, aggression, denial of international law, backstabbing their so-called friends, and depraved subjugation of several million Palestinians.

Supporters of Israel are basicaly identical to the (right-wing, militaristic, Christian) supporters of the South African apartheid regime as it conducted it own "security measures." How'd that work out?

After all, as usual, all you've done is attempt to smear the messenger--ignoring the plain facts.

What real argument do you think you have?
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LTS TRN 2 wrote:"Lighten up," Mikey?
"Mikey" is someone else. I'm Mike, LabRat, MtLR...

And yes, lighten the fuck up.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:The bio-weapons lab outside Tel Aviv is REAL.
Good. Maybe they'll come up with something that'll preferentially wipe out folks who insist on using their fingers instead of TP after a bowel movement. Refusing to jump into the 20th century level with regards to personal hygiene by the 21st century is just so....gauche

I think the ultimatum should be "USE TWO-PLY OR DIE!"
LTS TRN 2 wrote:And you think you're making a "joke"?
It's very difficult to take your ravings seriously, especially when it's obvious that you're so dim that you'd lose a game of "Rock-Papers-Scissors" to Terry Schiavo.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:What the fuck are you doing? Making stupid childish "jokes" about murdering ALL the Arabs?
Not all of them. Just the ones that bother me. The ones that run the tidy convenience stores get a pass from me.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:And you think I need "meds"?
Yes, yes I do. That's my professional opinion.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:You need a cattle prod stuck up your ass so you can wake the fuck up!
Mmm...now, see, this is the problem to which I was referring.

I am obviously awake, since I'm bothering to respond to you. The addition of a cattle prod to my rectum wouldn't do a darned thing to make me stop for a moment, reconsider my position, and then decide "Hey, you know what...maybe LTS has a point there.." That is, of course, assuming I'd ever be foolish enough to allow someone with such a device within six feet of my ass.

I think you need to switch to decaf.
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Is Christianity a virus? Sure, why not? Look how it spreads, and look what it does.

Historically, it has promoted ignorance, intolerance, and war, not necessarily in that order.
Yeah...most viruses promote ignorance, intolerance, and war. That's why it's good to get your annual flu vaccine. Nothing worse than some bitches with 104°F fever, vomiting, and the runs starting WWIII.

The polio virus was responsible for the Civil War. Yep. Look it up. And smallpox? That little bastard was responsible for the Hundred Years War.

:meds:

LTS TRN 2 wrote:As far as the U.S., Britain, and Israel comprising the True Axis Of Evil,.....

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Supporters of Israel are basicaly identical to the (right-wing, militaristic, Christian) supporters of the South African apartheid regime as it conducted it own "security measures." How'd that work out?
Please, tell me how the regimes YOU support are so peaceful, loving and tolerant. Just try to tell the board how well the Islamic nations support freedom of religion, freedom of expression, don't conflate religious and civil law in a way that allows executions and torture for violating sharia...
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The phantorino wrote:It's about time the US & Britain stopped holding Israel's hand. The question of wether the country has a right to exist has been settled for over half a fuckin' century. Why have they got to come running to us everytime some lobs a bomb at them. You wanted the soil, you got it. Now defend it and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Holy Shit you're a dumb one! The US (and to some smaller extent GB), has "held" Israel back from "settling" this whole mess. Israel hasn't come "running" to anyone for help.

Note to the owner of this troll (please let it be one of our resident dumb fucks and not new blood) - Pull your head out of your ass and try again.


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The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:Israel hasn't come "running" to anyone for help.
You are correct.

It's America that crawls on it's knees to Israel.

And when Israel is finished spraying America's tonsils with their jizz, you'd better have all those t's crossed and those i's dotted on the cheque.
Because anything less would just be "anti-Semitic", and there is no greater crime in the history of humanity than anti-Semitism.

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Wow! Reality must be a different colour where you live.
Every time some Ay-rab fundementalist decides to back up the Palestinians and encroach on Israeli soil, there is always the Israeli implied reponse that the UN, US, or GB 'Big Brother" that invented the place will back up their Israeli l'il sibling and defend them, send in a force, come up with a diplomatic solution or some other thing. Why these three are always asked to back them up, I don't know. This shit should have stopped in the mid-50's. They just want someone to back them up, and think that because it was our decision to create the country, we are going to repeat that fact ad infinitum, essentially making us enemies of said Ay-rab fundemetalists over and over again.

We don't want to know - have your own little spat, and don't let it spread past the eastern Med. I don't care what happens in Israel - i imagine 90% of this board, the UN Security Council, and the combined populations of the US, GB, G8 , and even fuckin' raider fans don't either.
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The phantorino wrote:Wow! Reality must be a different colour where you live.
Yes, reality is a different "colour". Try it some time.
The phantorino wrote:Every time some Ay-rab fundementalist decides to back up the Palestinians and encroach on Israeli soil, there is always the Israeli implied reponse that the UN, US, or GB 'Big Brother" that invented the place will back up their Israeli l'il sibling and defend them, send in a force, come up with a diplomatic solution or some other thing. Why these three are always asked to back them up, I don't know. This shit should have stopped in the mid-50's. They just want someone to back them up, and think that because it was our decision to create the country, we are going to repeat that fact ad infinitum, essentially making us enemies of said Ay-rab fundemetalists over and over again.

We don't want to know - have your own little spat, and don't let it spread past the eastern Med. I don't care what happens in Israel - i imagine 90% of this board, the UN Security Council, and the combined populations of the US, GB, G8 , and even fuckin' raider fans don't either.
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Hey Meatwhistle:
Quote: "Israel has proposed the establishment of a NATO force to patrol the border with Lebanon and prevent the entry of Hizbullah." July 25,2006

No we are not going to - go fight your own battles and leave us out of it.

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The Whistle Is Screaming wrote:
The phantorino wrote:It's about time the US & Britain stopped holding Israel's hand. The question of wether the country has a right to exist has been settled for over half a fuckin' century. Why have they got to come running to us everytime some lobs a bomb at them. You wanted the soil, you got it. Now defend it and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
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"Holy Shit you're a dumb one! The US (and to some smaller extent GB), has "held" Israel back from "settling" this whole mess. Israel hasn't come "running" to anyone for help.

Note to the owner of this troll (please let it be one of our resident dumb fucks and not new blood) - Pull your head out of your ass and try again."


Whistler, start owning up to the fact that Israel's war machine is ENTIRELY bought and paid for by American tax dollars. And that certainly includes the special rush order of cruise missles shipped in to Tel Aviv--taking priority, of course, over the humanitarian relif supplies being trickled into Lebanon.

What a garrish and vile crime these neocon Israel-fanatics have wrought. And you're....supporting it? How can you look in the mirror?

Like South Africa, this abomination will fall.
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Will America defend Israel? Would you die for Israel?

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RRRACK!
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a butt load of people who sit in those small cubicles pretending to work while submitting a "take."
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Re: Will America defend Israel? Would you die for Israel?

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The phantorino wrote:Hey Meatwhistle:
Quote: "Israel has proposed the establishment of a NATO force to patrol the border with Lebanon and prevent the entry of Hizbullah." July 25,2006

No we are not going to - go fight your own battles and leave us out of it.

While we are quoting:
col·our
Pronunciation: 'k&-l&r
chiefly British variant of COLOR,

as in the ENGLISH language.
Just because you Amurricans can't spell, doesn't mean that I have to follow.


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Martard's dumber brother?
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.”
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quote: Martard's dumber brother? Quote

No - just someone that stayed awake in History class, can read, make up his mind, and spell correctly.
Care to join me, or are you still in the sandpit with the rest of your kindergarten class?
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