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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:40 pm
by Dinsdale
You mean that guy who all of the local authorities said was "acting alone, and not associated with any terrorist group?"
That guy?
Maybe I just hear more U&L news(sin, Marcus), but for some reason, nutjobs losing their marbles and shooting up a bunch of people has been a fairly common occurance in Seattle this year. Just because one of them was a nonpracticing Muslim who shot up a Jewish center, it suddenly becomes some massive Islamoterrorist conspiracy?
Ohhhhhkay. Whatever you say.
Sounds like just another Washington whack-job to me...they're famous for them. Not sure why he went and drove to the opposite corner of the state to take target practice -- the herd around his Tri Cities home needs plenty of thinning, as well.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:44 pm
by Diogenes
Felix wrote:mvscal wrote:
That goes without saying. Your ignorance came through loud and clear.
I asked a question as to whether you'd classify Americans that perpetuate crimes against Arab-Americans as "terrorists"....
why not just simply answer the question instead of calling me names......
He did answer the question. Your comparison in the context of his quote mearly demonstrates that you're a fucking idiot.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:59 pm
by Felix
mvscal wrote:
Why not go fuck yourself?
what, melting so soon.....
Feel free to come back to the discussion once you are more familiar with the definitions of the terms being used.
by all means point out to me which definitions and terms I'm not familiar with.....
or do you prefer to continue to whine like a fucking bitch......
your call hoss.......
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:12 pm
by Diogenes
Sudden Sam wrote:mvscal wrote:Sudden Sam wrote: But, who are we to know a man's inner soul and his convictions? If he says he's a Christian, then, by god, he must be a Christian!
He said he is a Muslim, you fucking tard.
Sorry, O Knower of All, he was a Christian. Apparently you missed this:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/279 ... t30ww.html
He told friends he felt alienated from his own family, in part because his career had disappointed his father and also because he had disavowed Islam last year, converting to Christianity.
Haq had begun studying the Bible, attending weekly men's spiritual group meetings, only to stop coming a few months after his baptism. He had told the group's leader that he seen too much anger in Islam and that he wanted to find a new beginning in Christianity.
Yet in the midst of his shooting spree in Seattle Friday, he declared himself an angry Muslim.
Made it bigger so you wouldn't miss it this time.
FTFY.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:16 pm
by RadioFan
So should this be prosecuted as a state hate crime, as a federal terrorism crime or under state's charges of murder and attempted murder?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:22 pm
by Tom In VA
RadioFan wrote:So should this be prosecuted as a state hate crime, as a federal terrorism crime or under state's charges of murder and attempted murder?
I think one count of attempted manslaughter and two counts of libel and three of slander will do.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:26 pm
by titlover
Sudden Sam wrote:I think TWIS has it right: the man felt alienated from his prominent Muslim family because he had become a Christian. Perhaps he felt that his pronouncement at the scene and his act of lunacy would get hm back in their graces.
But he is a Christian. Baptized and all that shit.
Doesn't all this just give you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside as far as religion?
sounds like he was acting under the influence of his Muslim teachings.
but who are we to say? he only yelled it!
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:29 pm
by Tom In VA
Or he could have been a Christian terrorist portraying himself as a Muslim terrorist in order to get more people to turn against Islam.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:39 pm
by Diogenes
Sudden Sam wrote:I think TWIS has it right: the man felt alienated from his prominent Muslim family because he had become a Christian. Perhaps he felt that his pronouncement at the scene and his act of lunacy would get hm back in their graces.
But he is a Christian. Baptized and all that shit.
Well if you say so, I guess his thoughts on the matter are irrelevant.
Idiot.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:54 pm
by PSUFAN
Strange things happen when you combine moral cowardice with intellectual dishonesty.
Strange and WONDERFUL things!!
--sin,
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:02 pm
by Diogenes
PSUFAN wrote:Strange things happen when you combine moral cowardice with intellectual dishonesty.
Strange and WONDERFUL things!!
--sin,
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:03 pm
by Tom In VA
mvscal wrote:Well, fortunately Catholics are "only" buggering kids.
They're not the only ones. This guy is a Pagan, he's honest about it though.
http://www.nbc10.com/news/9621055/detail.html#
A suburban Cleveland man accused of sexually assaulting nine disabled boys told a judge Wednesday that his apartment was a religious sanctuary where smoking marijuana and having sex with children are sacred rituals protected by civil rights laws.
The admitted pedophile offered a surprising defense Wednesday to 74 charges of rape, drugs and pandering obscenity to minors.
Appearing in an Ohio court for a pretrial hearing, Phillip Distasio, 34, of Rocky River, Ohio, said he was a pedophile.
He told the judge, "I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years. The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."
Distasio, a self-professed pagan friar, is representing himself on 74 charges. He said he's the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, and that some of his congregants are among the victims in his case.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:09 pm
by Diogenes
So if Catholicism leads to pederasty, does that mean that agnost..er atheism leads to an increase in serial killers?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:34 pm
by Diogenes
Sudden Sam wrote:Diogenes wrote:So if Catholicism leads to pederasty, does that mean that agnost..er atheism leads to an increase in serial killers?
Nope. Most serial killers had Christianity pounded into 'em from birth.
Link?
If it was 'pounded into' them, it obviously didn't take.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:38 pm
by Shlomart Ben Yisrael
Diogenes wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Diogenes wrote:So if Catholicism leads to pederasty, does that mean that agnost..er atheism leads to an increase in serial killers?
Nope. Most serial killers had Christianity pounded into 'em from birth.
Link?
If it was 'pounded into' them, it obviously didn't take.
You and Cicero are the only two guys on this board that can suck mv's dick
and take a beatdown from him
in the same thread.
Stockholm Syndrome
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:41 pm
by Felix
Sudden Sam wrote:
This is getting waaaay off the subject matter.
how do you suppose that happened.......
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:44 pm
by Diogenes
Martyred wrote:Diogenes wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
Nope. Most serial killers had Christianity pounded into 'em from birth.
Link?
If it was 'pounded into' them, it obviously didn't take.
You and Cicero are the only two guys on this board that can suck mv's dick
and take a beatdown from him
in the same thread.
If you think either is the case, you need to check your meds.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:46 pm
by Diogenes
Sudden Sam wrote:Diogenes wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
Nope. Most serial killers had Christianity pounded into 'em from birth.
Link?
If it was 'pounded into' them, it obviously didn't take.
You had made an asinine assumption.
No, I made a valid comparison with the asinine assumption held by the Catholic bashers.
Feel free to continue being clueless.
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:31 pm
by Diogenes
Sudden Sam wrote:Diogenes wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
You had made an asinine assumption.
No, I made a valid comparison with the asinine assumption held by the Catholic bashers.
Feel free to continue being clueless.
Not into bashing Catholics, but I can see how it happens regularly. They sorta leave themselves wide open for it, don't they?
Why, pray tell, would you think agnosticism (or atheism) would produce serial killers?
Moral reletivism, nihlism and social darwinism are all reasonable outcomes of the atheist mindset.
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law...
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:50 pm
by Tom In VA
Sudden Sam wrote:Christians are generally such moral people.
....
Having a real life is tough, but I gotta do it.
You consider yourself moral ? Lying is moral ?
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:55 pm
by Diogenes
Don't want you screaming 'BODE!' or "I ran SS."
Like that would happen.
Maybe I should run blueboy or Felix and call 'BODE' over that too.
~edit for clueless anklebiters~
Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:57 pm
by Felix
Sudden Sam wrote:
Why, pray tell, would you think agnosticism (or atheism) would produce serial killers?
everyone knows that a.g.n.o.s.t.i.c.s are predisposed to being serial killers...
Sincerely
you know who....
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:25 pm
by Tom In VA
Sudden Sam wrote:Tom In VA wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Christians are generally such moral people.
....
Having a real life is tough, but I gotta do it.
You consider yourself moral ? Lying is moral ?
Yes, I consider myself to have very high morals. Where did you perceive me to have lied?
Let me add:
real Christians should have high morals. I just don't see many
real Christians around.
1. "Having a real life" is where I was calling you out for lying. If you post on any of these boards, you don't have a "real life". Maybe part of a real life, but
we're all a little bit off and have a little too much time on our hands on these boards to have a REAL, real life. :P
2. That's because you're not a Christian. Neither am I, at least not in the practicing sense, but I might be able to help you see more of them around you.