Larry Johnson

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:18 am

Looks like the Haytahs are Evrawhere:

User RB Busts
Many Fanball users view Larry Johnson as a huge bust this season.
By Bo Mitchell
Publisher

September 8, 2006 9:00 PM ET

Thanks again for responding to our call for running backs busts. As you will see below, Larry Johnson, the consensus No. 1 pick in fantasy leagues this summer was the most frequent target of your negativity. What follows is a representative sampling of the responses we received from Fanball users.

Dave Mozwecz [ogbo1@verizon.net] wrote:
Every year there are busts and sleepers. With early injuries and lackluster preseason games this could be a year that has bigger busts than a Russ Meyer movie and more sleepers than a Senate Subcommittee hearing. The double D-cup of the group is Larry Johnson. Larry went from the 1st round immediately into Vermeil's doghouse after the first mini-camp because of his work ethic. Without Priest Holmes pushing him, he'll end up on a steady diet of Milk Bones in Edward's doghouse. Michael Bennett would be the logical sleeper here, but Trent Green will have to step up for the Chiefs to finish above .500.

Chris Ketterhagen [ketter1980@hotmail.com] wrote:
I'm going to explain why Larry Johnson will be the biggest tease since Jennifer Love Hewitt tormented all of us when she was down in that ice hold of the ship in "I Know What You Did Last Summer". Larry plays for an old team that is in decline. At 35 Will Sheilds has bailing wire holding his knees together, they have Kyle "backjello" Turley on Trent Green's all important blind side and Kevin Sampson on the right side, who in two NFL seasons was active for only 12 games. Guard Brian Waters is nursing a foot injury and Ronnie Cruz a division 2 star at football powerhouse Northern State takes over for pro-bowler Tony Richardson. Ask Ahman Green what happened when he lost two starting guards in Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera. Now ask yourself how well your 68 rs/ss camero runs without one spark plug, water in the gas, and maple syrup in the oil pan.

Joe Carney [jcarney23@yahoo.com] wrote:
I know, I know: It's blasphemy, right? Trust me, Larry Johnson is in for a letdown. Three factors lead me to this conclusion:

1) Willie Roaf retired. That is a huge loss for the Chiefs' offensive line and for Johnson.
2) The AFC West is loaded with good defenses. Oakland is the only exception, and they should be much improved.
3) Trent Green is 106 years old and is throwing to a collection of receivers (save Tony Gonzalez) that would have a hard time making the Eagles' roster.

Now, what does bust mean for Larry Johnson? He is going to go in the top three of any draft, so we should be expecting 1600+ yards and 12-15 TDs at a minimum. I'm going to say he goes for about 1200 yards and 9 TD. Again, that is not a bad year, just not what everyone is expecting.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:11 pm

reset......

I see a flash....where's the pan.....oh Paul's using it. No doubt.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:25 pm

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Fucking tears over here.

Yeah, those "experts" are complete dumbfucks regarding our line.

Sincerely,

Trent Reeve's blowtube guided cart and Larry Johnsons monster rushing day

This whole thread should be archived on the stupidity and myopia factor alone.......
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RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:28 pm

Raydah James wrote:This whole thread should be archived on the stupidity and myopia factor alone.......
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I have to admit, even I laughed at this RJ. Rack.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:30 pm

It's no different than every other year.

I wish there was a way to go back and read threads from old sites. The one season a cfew years ago has cheffan calling themselves the greatest team of all-time and telling the '72 dolphins to be worried and put the champagne away because they were going to go undefeated.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:44 pm

(crickets)

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:34 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
T REX wrote:It's no different than every other year.

I wish there was a way to go back and read threads from old sites. The one season a cfew years ago has cheffan calling themselves the greatest team of all-time and telling the '72 dolphins to be worried and put the champagne away because they were going to go undefeated.
That's because that never happened, Mr. "We Got SPANKED AT HOME 27-0" Fuck'nQueerFan.

Bull-fucking-shit....we had looney cheffan in 2003 screaming best team ever.....didn't you guys start out 10-0 or something and no one was going to beat you at home in the playoffs. If you are denying this...its a real shame since I have no way of looking it up. I'm sure OTHER posters on this site remember.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:41 pm

KC Scott wrote:Turley has done a fairly good job so far on the left side replacing Roaf.

What seems to be forgotten is the middle 3 of the kC line - Shields Weigman & Watters form the best interior in the NFL.

If anything, I'm more concerned about pass protection for Trent than running room for LJ.

I'll call 1,600 yds and 14 TDs

^^^ Gee - This is looking prophetic

LJ finished with 147 Combined yards - Not too bad considering how bad the chiefs OL was.

T REX · Post by **T REX** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:23 am

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

You know for a fact? That's just priceless.

Dell laptop: $1200.00

Comcast internet connection: $29.99

Copying someone else's posts: Fucking priceless

Listen, ya Lifetime Achievement Cryin' Ryan, you chef fans are the worst every year. It's no secret. You can shove the link up your copy and paste ass. You really don't count dude. Sorry.

fix · Post by **fix** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:37 am

KC Scott wrote:
KC Scott wrote:Turley has done a fairly good job so far on the left side replacing Roaf.

What seems to be forgotten is the middle 3 of the kC line - Shields Weigman & Watters form the best interior in the NFL.

If anything, I'm more concerned about pass protection for Trent than running room for LJ.

I'll call 1,600 yds and 14 TDs

^^^ Gee - This is looking prophetic

LJ finished with 147 Combined yards - Not too bad considering how bad the chiefs OL was.

You think Green's injury changes Peterson's mind* about not bringing John Welbourn back in once his 6 game suspension is up? (* from what I've read, he's leaning against it..)
If Huard's your QB... you'll need every bit of help you can get and experienced linemen tend to help...

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:25 am

^^^ Said it in another thread - I'd lay odds Welbourne is back in Uniform for KC week 7.

That is provided we're not 1-5 by then

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:47 am

Raydah James wrote: Fucking tears over here.

Yeah, I'll just bet that you're in tears. You drop exactly one worthless post in this entire thread, yet now you're in here flapping your abused gums about LJ after just one game when things didn't go his way? Like Scott said, 148 yards from scrimmage didn't exactly suck.

Newsflash: LJ is still going to get his, and you'll continue to be a one trick, drive bye pussy...never calling your shot until after the result is already in. Look on the bright side though, Lames. You'll always have Radidio fag slurping your nuts, so that's a good thing, right?

Go fuck yourself, cunt.

Dumbass · Post by **Dumbass** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:41 am

Keep on back pedaling and crying Cheffan.

You're a bunch of fucking cunts and we all know it.

Sling that shit all over RJ. Fuck these assholes.

Good luck, brotha. Peace out. These assholes aren't worth your thoughts. Let this shithole fizzle out the way it deserves to.

I mean WTF are we even doing here guys? The so called rulers of this board don't even know how to post their own takes and will say anything they have to to get what they want.

FUCK THEM!

Who's coming with me?

LET'S DO IT!!!!

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:40 am

KC Scott wrote:
KC Scott wrote:Turley has done a fairly good job so far on the left side replacing Roaf.

What seems to be forgotten is the middle 3 of the kC line - Shields Weigman & Watters form the best interior in the NFL.

If anything, I'm more concerned about pass protection for Trent than running room for LJ.

I'll call 1,600 yds and 14 TDs

^^^ Gee - This is looking prophetic

LJ finished with 147 Combined yards - Not too bad considering how bad the chiefs OL was.

Prophetic ... ?
Oh yeah, you're a regular Nostradumbass, Snotty.

Scott wrote:Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:28 pm Do we really need to discuss the Chiefs Offense? Lead the League in Yards and # 6 in total Points. Returning the entire unit in tact. Toss in that Larry Johnson, based on his average in the 9 games he started, would have broken the single season rushing record had he started from day one and I don't think there's too much shit you Haytahs can stick to that wall.

This is the last run for the KC O - Shields and Roaf will retire after 2006.
But if the Chiefs stay healthy there's no reason KC can't contend for the AFC crown.

Bwahahahahaha

You're actually in here tootin' your own horn ... ?

Classic.

Roaf retired a couple of days after you wrote that, so you get a pass on that comment ....... sort of (but even if he'd played he'd likely end up hurt this year, or lacking the effectiveness you're accustomed to seeing from him), but you didn't take into account a lot of other things that you were warned about.

Richardson, O-coordinator, head coach, and overall age of the offense.
You and a lot of other Chef fans had a false sense of security about your offense because you'd seen it click along nicely for a long time.
Objective fans could look and see it beginning to come apart though.

KC's offense will struggle all year, and an injured Green is only part of the problem.
Not real wise to have NO reasonable #2 QB when your starter is approaching his late 30s.
Great yob, Carla.
Now you're fucked deep.

The Chef offense is very similar to Oakland's in the year after their Super Bowl loss.
Old QB (who got his bell rung), old O-line (which was losing it's steam), old skill players (no longer what they were).
Also, faith in Herm and Solari will shatter quickly if the team keeps laying eggs like it did Sunday.

This opener was a slap in the face, man.
You're looking at 0-2 after Dungver whips your ass in a few days.

Rebuilding is a bitch.
Ask Raiderfan.

KC Scott · Post by **KC Scott** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:51 pm

This is the last run for the KC O - Shields and Roaf will retire after 2006.
But if the Chiefs stay healthy there's no reason KC can't contend for the AFC crown.

EAD Tart - Reading is FUNdeMENTAL

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:03 pm

Roaf.

poptart wrote:Roaf retired a couple of days after you wrote that, so you get a pass on that comment ....... sort of (but even if he'd played he'd likely end up hurt this year, or lacking the effectiveness you're accustomed to seeing from him), but you didn't take into account a lot of other things that you were warned about.

Hey, your team was taking it on the chin yesterday before Green went down.

Now perhaps you've lost one player for a yet-to-be-determined amount of time.
So does that make your team not healthy ... ?
I'm pretty sure every team in the league will lose a 'key' player during the course of the year.

Nobody's fault but KC's that they don't have a viable backup QB.
Tough shit, basically.

Qualifying a take on a team with the 'if they stay healthy' take is = to saying you have no real confidence in your take or your team.

Injuries happen to ALL teams.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:36 pm

... I didn't see the KC game, only the vicious cheap shot on Green...ugly!
Personally I hope Green is OK and is back in the lineup soon. This NFL forum is filled with some real die-hard fans, and TDOTRF are right at the top as far as representation goes.

Let me be the first not to pile on. As every NFL season nears, the anticipation and excitement builds to a freeking crescendo. To see your starting quarterback go down in the first game on a cheap-ass Pearl Harbor shot…well.. I wouldn't even wish that on the Raiduhs :wink:

Hang tough Chiefan, and hope to God the Raiduhs are not all alone in first place after tonight.

BTW. I'm still coming to Kansas City fella's, I hope the tailgates at Arrowhead are on par with Qualcom.

Raydah James · Post by **Raydah James** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:34 pm

War Wagon wrote:
Raydah James wrote: Fucking tears over here.
Yeah, I'll just bet that you're in tears. You drop exactly one worthless post in this entire thread, yet now you're in here flapping your abused gums about LJ after just one game when things didn't go his way? Like Scott said, 148 yards from scrimmage didn't exactly suck.

Newsflash: LJ is still going to get his, and you'll continue to be a one trick, drive bye pussy...never calling your shot until after the result is already in. Look on the bright side though, Lames. You'll always have Radidio fag slurping your nuts, so that's a good thing, right?

Go fuck yourself, cunt.

Ahhhh-I love the smell of KC melt in the morning.

Nice to see that Forklift U. skips over the fine art of counting.

If you werent so busy doing forklift wheelies in between pimping your fat dyke of a daughter for her box munching softball skills, you'd see that I called the entire lot of you dripping slits out earlier in this thread for being the myopic bunch of fucking morons you are.

Bottom line is this:

RACK that hit on Trent Reeves

UNRACK a Raider not doing it

Enjoy your 5-11 season, sister bangers.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:15 am

LJ stat update:

90 carries for 331 yds.

On pace for 1324 yds, 12 TDs.

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:30 pm

LJ is lucky his neck isn't broken. One of the worst facemask's I've ever witnessed in the NFL.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:19 pm

Nixhex wrote:

LJ is lucky his neck isn't broken. One of the worst facemask's I've ever witnessed in the NFL.

Yes it was. But in doing so, Rolle saved a TD and gave his team a chance to win. So I'm sure whatever fine he gets will be handled for him by the team.

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:25 pm

BSmack wrote:
Nixhex wrote:

LJ is lucky his neck isn't broken. One of the worst facemask's I've ever witnessed in the NFL.
Yes it was. But in doing so, Rolle saved a TD and gave his team a chance to win. So I'm sure whatever fine he gets will be handled for him by the team.

Probably so. However, he didn't even need to tackle LJ. A small shove or grab of the jersey would have forced him out of bounds. Rolle just got fined for a horse collar tackle a few weeks ago. I don't know much about him but he's starting to gain a reputation as a dirty player.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04 am

Nixhex wrote:However, he didn't even need to tackle LJ. A small shove or grab of the jersey would have forced him out of bounds.

Disagree. He stopped him the only way he could... with the most vicious facemask ever.

Can't really blame the dude for doing the only thing he could to stop the freight train that is LJ from hitting paydirt. But the NFL probably will.

It's a testament to LJ's strength and conditioning that he managed to walk off that field. Rack him.

That said, he should have cut it back inside and let that fuck run by him flailing his arms in futility.

And that said... fuck Herm for then running the ball 3 times straight up the middle with Dee fucking fumbles Brown and then settling for a FG.

FUCK THAT!!!

LJ just got his neck nearly broke, and you can't make them pay for it with a game clinching TD?

FUCK THAT!!!

You gave them a chance to force OT with a long FG?

FUCK THAT!!!

Herm is an idiot.

If KC wins, it'll be despite this preacher.

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:47 pm

Wags~

I completely agree on Brown. Bennett or Holmes can't come back fast enough.

I guess looking at the facemask again it was about the only way Rolle could get ahold of LJ. However, if you watch the replay Rolle actually keeps ahold of his facemask after LJ is out of bounds and he slams him to the ground. He could have let go and accomplished stopping LJ without the extra slam at the end. Watch it again and you'll see what I'm talking about.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:53 pm

Nixhex wrote:Wags~

I completely agree on Brown. Bennett or Holmes can't come back fast enough.

I guess looking at the facemask again it was about the only way Rolle could get ahold of LJ. However, if you watch the replay Rolle actually keeps ahold of his facemask after LJ is out of bounds and he slams him to the ground. He could have let go and accomplished stopping LJ without the extra slam at the end. Watch it again and you'll see what I'm talking about.

What's your point? LJ on the 2 yard line would have been money in the end zone. Without LJ, the Cards have a chance. Rolle did exactly what he needed to do to give his team the best chance to win in that circumstance. Was it cheap? Hell yea it was cheap. But the Cards damn near tied that game because of it.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:08 pm

You know, Brian Waters blatantly HELD Adrian Wilson on that play.

That hold and push is what sprung Johnson.

Horseshit no-call.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:36 pm

poptart wrote:LJ stat update:

90 carries for 331 yds.

On pace for 1324 yds, 12 TDs.

Best...RB...evar!

Cue the injury excuses....

Nixhex · Post by **Nixhex** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:26 pm

poptart wrote:You know, Brian Waters blatantly HELD Adrian Wilson on that play.

That hold and push is what sprung Johnson.

Horseshit no-call.

Guess the Chiefs were due after getting the shaft in Denver.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:50 pm

Looks like it's open season on facemasks. Rolle got fined 12 grand for the play.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6056788

A small price to pay for putting your team in a position to win a game if you ask me.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:12 pm

Nixhex wrote:
Guess the Chiefs were due after getting the shaft in Denver.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:18 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
BSmack wrote:Looks like it's open season on facemasks. Rolle got fined 12 grand for the play.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6056788

A small price to pay for putting your team in a position to win a game if you ask me.
Rolle's just lucky that Kyle Turley wasn't on the field after that play. Antrell would've found out firsthand what somebody trying to rip your dome off while it's still inside a helmet feels like.

Maybe, but then you would have had offsetting penalties. I'm not sure what the ruling would have been since one flag would have been thrown while the ball was live and the other while it was dead. But any action that would have forced a replaying of the down would have been insanely stupid.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:33 pm

KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
BSmack wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote: Rolle's just lucky that Kyle Turley wasn't on the field after that play. Antrell would've found out firsthand what somebody trying to rip your dome off while it's still inside a helmet feels like.
Maybe, but then you would have had offsetting penalties. I'm not sure what the ruling would have been since one flag would have been thrown while the ball was live and the other while it was dead. But any action that would have forced a replaying of the down would have been insanely stupid.
I could care less- I think SOMEBODY should've went after Rolle for trying to hurt LJ. PERIOD.

Even if the result is that you're back to 1st and 10 at your own 13 with no Larry Johnson in your lineup? Dude, that's just stupid.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:45 pm

mvscal wrote:Doesn't have to be anything blatant. "Accidents" happen. Hey, I just happened to be falling right at his knees?!? Sorry about that.

Carson Palmer can tell you all about it.

Easier said than done to a CB. Were he a D lineman, I could see that maybe happening. But blocking at the knees on a CB is a sure way to draw your own 15 yard penalty. The solution is to devise a penalty for what Rolle did that would be stringent enough to deter other assholes from trying the same thing.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:05 pm

BSmack wrote:The solution is to devise a penalty for what Rolle did that would be stringent enough to deter other assholes from trying the same thing.

easy....

force the offender to spend 30 minutes with RtShrub talking maladies........

that'll quash illegal hits......

WhatsMyName · Post by **WhatsMyName** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:37 am

There's no way he intentionally meant to facemask him that bad. Get over yourself.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:02 am

WhatsMyName wrote:There's no way he intentionally meant to facemask him that bad. Get over yourself.

I agree.

When you watch plays in slow mo, or super slow mo, things look a LOT different than what the reality of regular speed is.

Rolle reacted, reached, grabbed, and held on a bit.
LJ happened to have a pretty damn good head of steam up when Rolle got him.
Don't forget that.

The result was pretty bad, but the ACTION of Rolle was not as bad as it's been played up to be, IMO.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:42 pm

...bump errr update on L.J.'s progress on breaking the single season rushing record.

Yesterday...Att. 15 Yds. 25
YTD...........Att. 105 Yds. 357

Games remaining to reach 2106 yds. 11

Average needed per game...1749 by 11 =159 ypg

Blast that Wags will counter with in 5-4-3-2-1

1. He nearly had his head yanked off by Esther Rolle last week!

2. L.T. only had 36 yds. vs. Pittsburgh. (yeah but we won 23-13 and Turner had 56 yds.)

3. After the plungering we took this week in Pittsburgh, I feel sorry for the Bolts coming to Arrowhead.

4. Roaf, Saunders, Edwards..take your pick, its all their fault.

5. ChargerMike, ()%&*(^__*(&)*& off

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:45 am

ChargerMike wrote: Blast that Wags will counter with in 5-4-3-2-1

Nah. No blast, just a whimper.

I was just plain WRONG.

Sue me.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:21 am

BSmack wrote:
KC Paul 3.0 wrote:
BSmack wrote:Looks like it's open season on facemasks. Rolle got fined 12 grand for the play.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6056788

A small price to pay for putting your team in a position to win a game if you ask me.
Rolle's just lucky that Kyle Turley wasn't on the field after that play. Antrell would've found out firsthand what somebody trying to rip your dome off while it's still inside a helmet feels like.
Maybe, but then you would have had offsetting penalties. I'm not sure what the ruling would have been since one flag would have been thrown while the ball was live and the other while it was dead. But any action that would have forced a replaying of the down would have been insanely stupid.

Yes, and Turley is not known for stupidity on the field or anything.

Hey, btw, look at this pic I found on the interweb. Whoever this is, does he still play for the Saints? Stupid fuck.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:24 am

.... and btw, Rolle never even grabbed LJ's facemask. This is an obviously wytched pic. Like, where's LJ's right toes and all?