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a conference championship game proves nothing when OU can lose the thing and Nebraska can not even reach the thing and they are still playing int he BCS title game.
Conference Championship games are little more than a way to make cash hungry conferences more cash. The Pac is the only conference doing it right, they play everyone in conference, you see if everybody plays everybody else, you dont need an extra game.
Dont confuse Conference Championship games with a playoff system or anything else that will help give us a legitimate champion. Nothing short of NCAA generated schedules with equal amounts of home and road games and a playoff system will ever give D1 football a legitimate champion.
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Van wrote:They are NOT a step closer to playoffs. They're nothing but a cynical money grab. The regular season works just fine as a "playoff" for those conferences who don't foist end of season farces like Texas-Colorado upon us.
RadioFan wrote:A simple ARE or ARE NOT will do. You hate the BCS right? Why diss a conference championship game?
Because it's a farce. It serves no purpose.
Fair enough.

Don't blame me though, if Texas beats somebody like a one-loss, top-Ten ranked Neb team in the "Championship" (as you refer to it) game, and moves ahead of a one-loss team like a Mich or USC :twisted:, with no conference final. Could happen. Maybe not this year, but can you, in all honesty, with the way this horseshit is set up, NOT see it happening? Seriously.

Btw, you didn't answer me about the SEC or ACC. An undefeated team from either of those shouldn't be in the mix, based on PRESEASON rankings? Is that what you're saying?

That's what it would come down to, under the current system, given that USC and tOSU were not to lose.

And complete bullshit.
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RF, yes, that what it comes down to and yes it's bullshit and yes we've seen it before.

Pre season rankings and pre season expectations mean that an undefeated OSU, USC or ND almost certainly cannot get leapfrogged by anybody in the ACC, SEC, Big East or Big XII.

-OSU: Their grasp on #1 now is as firm as it gets. They won this year's regular season Armageddon Bowl and they did it while looking very good as a road dog, snapping a long winning streak of a defending national champion. They'd have to pull an Alabama and look ugly in every win from here on out in order to remain undefeated yet still fall out of the title game.

-USC: Arkansas, Nebraska, UCLA, Cal, Oregon and then Armageddon Bowl II with ND would combine with USC's perceived talent level, their current status as the most dominant program in CF and their regular season unbeaten streak to guarantee them another national title game invite.

-ND: If ND manages to make it through this month unbeaten then Armageddon Bowl II will be their only remaining hurdle before gaining the invite. What, you think the networks and all of college football (minus the SEC) isn't salivating at a potential OSU-ND or OSU-USC title game?

Nope, there's nothing the SEC or ACC can do to break this up. They can only hope to get in through some circuitous route such as the BCS having to pick and choose through a bunch of one loss teams or the obvious, whereby the SEC winner ends the season as one of only two undefeateds.
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Van wrote:Haahaa!!

I stand corrected!

Rice is up next.

Rice.

....and N. Texas...and Sam Houston State!

And hey, let's not forget, they also have....Baylor!!

Then again, at least we can rest assured (I think...) that they won't get to see Colorado in any Big XII "championship" game again this season.
thats ok, USC plays shit teams like:

stanford
oregon st
arizona
washington
washington st

and a mediocre team like UCLA, not to mention a Cal team who got crushed by a team of thugs from tenn, who were pushed around by air force.


i have no problem with USC, i was actually rooting for them to beat tejas(see vito), but this endless drivel from you is painful to read.

you ran your dicksucker last year, looked like a tard when Tejas beat USC(you know, cause tejas had no shot :m2ool:), and now your back for more. Don't you have an overweight african american to cyber?
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Missouri fan/ankle biter supreme weighs in?

:chuckle:

Btw, USC vs Texas hardly made me or anybody else "look like a tard." I never said Texas had no shot (your m2 reference aside) and the way that game went down fans of both teams could hold their heads up high, knowing that it ended up being a coin toss game.

For the record, Adel, this isn't about USC. It's not even specifically about Texas either. In case you hadn't noticed I've been all over the whole concept of major programs playing unbalanced schedules loaded with OOC cream puffs. I think it's an abomination when ADs at schools like FSU, Va Tech, Nebraska, Texas, Auburn and LSU call up ADs at schools who have no business ever playing roadies at these monolithic programs. Rather than call each other to fill in scheduling gaps they fill their schedules with an excess of home field scrimmages.

8-4 home vs road schedules are a joke.

Don't agree? Think that's a perfectly acceptable way to schedule things? Enjoy 62-0 routs where the entire second half is garbage time, and it was never going to be any other way?

Fine, you're entitled to your own idiotic opinion.
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van

your assanine shots at the big12 are laughable. and yes, you ran your dicksucker for weeks about tejas. usc would crush them, they play shit teams, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, usc, blah.

then all of a sudden, you were humbled by the tejas game. now back to old ways. thankfully the board has USC guys like jimmy, who like to smack, but can be humble about his team. Then we have van and socal, 2 pees in a pod. Ankle biting? hardly, responding to your endless bullshit about the big12 and midmajors.


there is 1 thing you will never see in a thread


a post about van actually attending a USC game. cybering the sistas must keep your from the Coliseum, eh? (ps people travel 5 hours to attend games, sometimes 15-18 hours to see their favorite team, so spare me your bullshit)
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Van wrote:I never said Texas had no shot
Uh, yeah, you did. Maybe you didn't use that exact phrase, but yep, you said it.

Don't make me go all search function on your ass.
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van, let me set the record straight about omething,

you can pimp usc all you want in here, BUT, last season, the reason they lost to texas was simple, your defense was LAUGHABLE, a total JOKE.

which, brings me to my next point,

you, and several other usc fans, were all comparing our current usc dynasty, to, dare I say it,
the 94-95 nebraska JAUGGERNAUT!

are you fuckin kiddin me?

for starters, usc didnt even go perfect back to back, ya had a loss,
second, usc NEVER faced 4 final top ten teams in a single year, let me repeat that,
in a single season, usc did not face 4 teams which finished in the top ten, 95 nebraska did.

also, I find it funny that you guys tried to call usc, "the best ever", the best ever? are you dellusional? do you realize that in order for a team to be called "best ever", you must have a sick defense? a defense that frightens people? last year, usc's defense was girly, pussy, and, downright laughable, texas ran thru your fag defense to the tune of over 550 yds,

IN STRONG CONTRAST, 95 nebraska possessed a defense full of hard core felons and future NFL pro bowlers, it was a defense that didnt just beat you on saturday, they also put you in the emergency ward to boot,
so,
DONT EVER come into this or any other forum, and try to tell us that usc was better than 95 nebraska, it makes you look like a dick sucking fairy,

which is why 94 penn st. is not a serious contender for "best ever" status, their defense was also soft like yours,

95 nebraska was frightenning on both sides of the ball, ya got it now?
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Van wrote:I never said Texas had no shot
Uh, yeah, you did. Maybe you didn't use that exact phrase, but yep, you said it.

Don't make me go all search function on your ass.
Search till the cows come home. I never thought or said that Texas had NO shot.

I said their D had no shot at shutting down our O, true. I never said our D was going to shut down their O.

My main repeated point was that our big game experience and our coaching staff would prove to be the difference, no matter what. Unfortunately, it did, in the wrong direction, and that was something I never could've imagined...
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bradhusker wrote:van, let me set the record straight about omething,
This oughtta be special.

:-)
you can pimp usc all you want in here, BUT, last season, the reason they lost to texas was simple, your defense was LAUGHABLE, a total JOKE.
Our D was ruined by injuries and even despite our repeated and highly noncharacteristic blunders on both sides of the ball we still held a 12 point lead with six minutes to go. Our D got pummeled...Texas' D got equally pummeled. Texas got the ball last, at least with enough time on the clock to do something.

Shit happens. It happened to us, that game.
which, brings me to my next point,
Will it be any more cogent than your usual points?
you, and several other usc fans, were all comparing our current usc dynasty, to, dare I say it,
the 94-95 nebraska JAUGGERNAUT!

are you fuckin kiddin me?
For an extended period, had we rolled Texas, hell yeah. There would've been no argument from anybody that for a four year period USC had the best team ever. Now, for just one season, nope. Nobody who knew what they were watching felt that the 2005 USC squad was even as good as the 2004 squad. Too many defensive injuries.

I'd gladly pit the '04 squad against anybody.
for starters, usc didnt even go perfect back to back, ya had a loss,
Huh?? USC ran the table both years. Had they beaten Texas they would've had two perfect seasons in a row, following a one loss NC '03 season and a two loss BCS '02 season.

Of course after losing to Texas nobody attempted to make any further "Greatest Team Ever" arguments for the '05 Trojans.

Duh.
second, usc NEVER faced 4 final top ten teams in a single year, let me repeat that,
in a single season, usc did not face 4 teams which finished in the top ten, 95 nebraska did.
WGARA?
also, I find it funny that you guys tried to call usc, "the best ever", the best ever? are you dellusional?
Actually, nobody in HERE ever tried to call the '05 (or even '04) Trojans the "best ever". That was strictly a media concoction.

That being said, since you brought it up and all, yeah, I'll take the '04 Trojans. If we're wiling to cross generations though I'd also take the '01 Canes and the '72 Trojans.
do you realize that in order for a team to be called "best ever", you must have a sick defense? a defense that frightens people? last year, usc's defense was girly, pussy, and, downright laughable, texas ran thru your fag defense to the tune of over 550 yds,
Do you realize USC also ran through Texas's D to the same tune? Besides, why are you arguing this, since nobody in their right mind is saying last year's team is the best ever? They fucking lost their bowl game so obviously they aren't the best team ever.
IN STRONG CONTRAST, 95 nebraska possessed a defense full of hard core felons and future NFL pro bowlers, it was a defense that didnt just beat you on saturday, they also put you in the emergency ward to boot,
so,
DONT EVER come into this or any other forum, and try to tell us that usc was better than 95 nebraska, it makes you look like a dick sucking fairy,

which is why 94 penn st. is not a serious contender for "best ever" status, their defense was also soft like yours,

95 nebraska was frightenning on both sides of the ball, ya got it now?
'95 Nebraska was good. One of the best. Their D was good. Their O was no big deal. They wouldn't have stood a chance at slowing down USC's offense in '04 or '05. SC's D in '04 was good enough that Nebraska couldn't have kept up point for point with SC's O.

Period.

(Of course, this is all just conjecture and nobody will ever know but hey, fuck it, it's fun anyway. I'll go off of NFL talent and Nebraska always sucks mediocre farmboy dick when it comes to their college dominance translating into the level playing field of the pros...)
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Van wrote:Search till the cows come home. I never thought or said that Texas had NO shot.
Van wrote:This one will again not even be close.
Van wrote:You are about to get rolled in front of the entire nation
Van wrote:most of the nation isn't going to be the least bit surprised when the final score is...

USC 50
Texas 22
And these are just a small percentage of examples. I can provide more if you wish.

You see, in most circles, statements such as these will be on par with "having no shot." I'm sure your semantics/spinnage will be firing on all cylinders at this point, but you'd have it no other way, would you?
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I don't need it any other way. My prediction was what it was and obviously I was wrong but I never said Texas had no shot.

I'd always allow for the unexpected.

That game just hit us with the exact type of unexpected that I, ummm, least expected!

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Adel, what difference does it make whether or not I actually attend a USC game in person?

I own a tv.

Yeah, twenty years ago when I lived in L.A. I went to USC games. Now, living up here and working on Saturdays like I always have, nope, I don't physically attend the games.

So?
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hey van, let me say it again, are you dellusional?

did you say that 95 nebraska's offense was no big deal?
did you say that usc would put up serious pts on the blackshirts of 95?
did you say that usc's defense would shut down our offense?

ALL 3 of those notions are downright laughable, and, in most circles, would get you a "nutcase" designation,

class in session,

95 nebraska was not only bigger and stronger than usc of 94, BUT, we actually had more speed at the key positions,
for instance, sure reggie bush ran a 4.2 forty, BUT, did you know that in college, ahmann green ran a 4.3? PLUS, ahmann was both bigger and stronger than reggie,
oh, and lest I forget, lawerence phillips was also bigger and stronger than bush and white,
now, our offensive line was bigger and stronger, which is amazing, considering we played 9 years before,
also, our defense? minter, brown, wistrom? rucker? they are NFL stalwarts, since you just said that nebraska doesnt send players to the NFL,
wanna know about the NFL connection? since you are obviously ignorant on this?
THIS SEASON, nebraska had 41 players on NFL teams, 10 were recently cut, leaving 31 former nebraska players, still playing in the NFL,
now, just curious? how do you like dem' apples? ya fag!

finally,
every reasonable football fan in this forum, will tell you to a MAN, that 95 nebraska would crush and humiliate your beloved trojans,

P.S.
you wanted to know why I said that 95 nebraska faced 4 final top ten teams, and usc had not?
simple,
usc faced an easier sched. since nebraska faced 4 final top ten teams, MEANING, with a sched. like usc's, anybody can look dominant,
are ya gettin it now?
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bradhusker wrote:hey van, let me say it again, are you dellusional?
At least make some attempt to spell correctly if you're going to attempt to use four syllable words.
did you say that 95 nebraska's offense was no big deal?
Yep, in the grand scheme of things. Fairly primitive offense, led by NFL washout Tommy Frazier and a host of other NFL washouts. Good offense, sure, but nothing like USC's. Like you keep mentioning with this year's Nebraska offense, USC's offense had way too much balance mixed in with all that explosiveness.
did you say that usc would put up serious pts on the blackshirts of 95?
Absolutely. No defense in college football history could stop USC's '04-'05 offense.
did you say that usc's defense would shut down our offense?
No, I didn't. I said the '04 defense was good enough that Nebraska's offense wouldn't be able to match point for point with USC's offense.
ALL 3 of those notions are downright laughable, and, in most circles, would get you a "nutcase" designation,
Hardly. Most college football pundits agree that USC's '04-'05 offenses might be the greatest ever. Two Heisman winners in one backfield (unprecedented in the history of college football) plus USC's all time leader in TDs and quite possibly the most NFL talent to ever line up in one college offense.

Shit, this mostly holds true for the '03 offense as well.
class in session,

95 nebraska was not only bigger and stronger than usc of 94, BUT, we actually had more speed at the key positions,
for instance, sure reggie bush ran a 4.2 forty, BUT, did you know that in college, ahmann green ran a 4.3? PLUS, ahmann was both bigger and stronger than reggie,
oh, and lest I forget, lawerence phillips was also bigger and stronger than bush and white,
now, our offensive line was bigger and stronger, which is amazing, considering we played 9 years before,
None of this is particularly true but hey, enjoy yourself.
also, our defense? minter, brown, wistrom? rucker? they are NFL stalwarts, since you just said that nebraska doesnt send players to the NFL,
You've got to be kidding me.

You funny.
wanna know about the NFL connection? since you are obviously ignorant on this?
THIS SEASON, nebraska had 41 players on NFL teams, 10 were recently cut, leaving 31 former nebraska players, still playing in the NFL,
now, just curious? how do you like dem' apples? ya fag!
I love 'em, since Nebraska's nowhere near USC at the top of the list of:

NFL Hall Of Famers
NFL Pro Bowlers
NFL top draft picks
NFL draft picks
NFL Super Bowl players

Your guys are trained to beat up K State. Our guys are trained to beat up (and play for) the Seattle Seahawks.
finally,
every reasonable football fan in this forum, will tell you to a MAN, that 95 nebraska would crush and humiliate your beloved trojans,
To a MAN? Every single person here would agree that '95 Nebraska would "crush and humiliate" the '04 Trojans? The '04 Trojans, the perfect season team that crushed the best ever (supposedly) and undefeated OU Sooners? Hardly. I'd say that if anything there'd be almost NOBODY who'd agree with that.
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Jimmy Medalions wrote:Vito, you're equally uncomfortable enjoying success as you are falling from success.

Understandably, while other programs in your conference have been consistently credible over the years, Texas has been consistently underachieving. No excuse, given all of those bling-bling recruiting titles.

The MNC Texas rightfully won a year ago would mean so much more to dumbfucks like you if you had the dignity to appreciate it.

Humility is something Vito has struggled with. tOSU has just shown him the light.
Are you a retard that just like to spout out what he hears other people say? How the hell can Texas constantly under achieve when we are the only program that has won 10 or more games over the last 5 years?

And what bling bling recruiting titles are you refering to? Since I normally go by Rivals lets take a closer look at recruiting you fucking moron.

2002.

1 Texas
2 Tennessee
3 Georgia
4 Florida State
5 Ohio State
6 Auburn
7 Oklahoma
8 Miami-FL
9 UCLA
10 Colorado

2003

1 LSU
2 Florida
3 Southern Cal
4 Oklahoma
5 Miami-FL 24
6 Georgia 25
7 NC State 28
8 South Carolina
9 Mississippi State
10 Texas A&M

15(tie) Texas

2004

1 Southern Cal
2 LSU
3 Florida State
4 Miami-FL
5 Michigan
6 Georgia
7 Florida
8 Oklahoma
9 Ohio State
10 Texas

2005

1 Southern Cal
2 Florida State
3 Oklahoma
4 Tennessee
5 Nebraska
6 Michigan
7 Miami-FL
8 Texas A&M
9 California
10 Georgia

20 Texas

2006

1 Southern Cal
2 Florida
3 Florida State
4 Georgia
5 Texas
6 Penn State
7 LSU
8 Notre Dame
9 Oklahoma
10 Auburn


Now what the hell were you saying about recruiting titles you retarded anckle biting dumbfuck?
How the hell with all those recruitng titles did U$C lose to Texas?

You say I can't handle succes or the fall from it. Look in the mirror you the one on a thread about Texas and tOSU talking shit about Texas with the rest of your U$C cronies.
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Intelligence really isn't Vito's cup of tea.
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Compared to me, you are Dorrie from Finding Nemo.

You didn't answer my question

How did U$C possibly lose to Texas with all those recruiting championships?
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How? Starting your second team defense because a good chunk of your starters were injured by the end of the season is a good start. Then add Vince Young. Then add six more inches by LenDale White and you have your answer.

Take top ten recruiting and then compare which team did more with it.

Quit melting about the game already. Disappointement is guaranteed for teams that win. You didn't see me bitching about the Rose Bowl after it was over, and that game meant a lot more than this one.
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Jimmy Medalions wrote:How? Starting your second team defense because a good chunk of your starters were injured by the end of the season is a good start. Then add Vince Young. Then add six more inches by LenDale White and you have your answer.

Take top ten recruiting and then compare which team did more with it.

Quit melting about the game already. Disappointement is guaranteed for teams that win. You didn't see me bitching about the Rose Bowl after it was over, and that game meant a lot more than this one.
Wow lets see, U$C with 3 #1 recruiting classes gets 1 Crystal Trophy. Texas with 1 #1 recruiting class gets 1 Crystal trophy. So who did more with less?

I had a hard time reading the rest of your excuses of why you lost, the music from all those sad violins was ringing in my ears.
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What have we done with more?

One crystal ball
Two AP titles
Three Heisman winners
Four consecutive BCS bowls

What has Texas done?

One crystal ball.
Two consecutive BCS bowls
Zero Heismans


Just man up and deal with the loss. You are embarassing the rest of the Texas posters here who have shown great class.
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Jimmy Medalions wrote:crystal ball
You just said the "magic" words! Cal will run the table, whip USC in LA by 30 points and win the "National Championshp" this year.

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:lol:
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Jimmy Medalions wrote:What have we done with more?

One crystal ball
Two AP titles
Three Heisman winners
Four consecutive BCS bowls

What has Texas done?

One crystal ball.
One AP title (which doesn't mean a thing today)
Two consecutive BCS bowls
Zero Heismans


Just man up and deal with the loss. You are embarassing the rest of the Texas posters here who have shown great class.
FIFY

Again with the loss, show me where I have not dealt with the loss?
I seem to be dealing with this loss better than you have dealt with losing back in January. If anyone needs to put it behind them its you. Look at the title of this thread, your only purpose here is to bask in the accomplishment in somthing your team couldn't do.

Enjoy the win, tOSU deserved it, your team is #2 now so I guess for you all is right with the world. My team played their guts out and will be back, I will support them win or lose.
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Bask? :lol:

tOSU posters here have been all class from the beginning. You went from silent to myopic in the span of one college season.

If I'm basking in anything, it's your freefall back to silence. tOSU was the first in a 12 step program.

Oh, and while we're on the subject of classless bitches you might want to tell Mack to quit crying about the way his team 'couldn't come back' at the end. You knew the rules before the game. You didn't perform in the alloted time that you knew you had. You failed to score more points than the other guy. Shut the fuck up and just say "We lost. Props to tOSU".
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Jimmy Medalions wrote:Bask? :lol:

tOSU posters here have been all class from the beginning. You went from silent to myopic in the span of one college season.

If I'm basking in anything, it's your freefall back to silence. tOSU was the first in a 12 step program.

Oh, and while we're on the subject of classless bitches you might want to tell Mack to quit crying about the way his team 'couldn't come back' at the end. You knew the rules before the game. You didn't perform in the alloted time that you knew you had. You failed to score more points than the other guy. Shut the fuck up and just say "We lost. Props to tOSU".
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For good or bad, I'm pretty sure you can anyone here but I have never been silent.
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van?

it seems that you are ignoring the FACTS.

you called the 95 nebraska offense primitive? do you realize, that by you saying that, it PROVES you know nothing about football?

did you not realize that the triple option offense that Osborne ran in 1995, was the most complex in all of college football?
nebraska had so many more formations and possibilities, with their complex offense, than usc could ever dream of having.
ask any football coach, and they will tell you just how complex the playbook for the 95 huskers was.
when I mentioned mike minter, mike brown, wistrom and rucker, you just laughed?
FUNNY, cause mike minter is better than any current usc defensive back in the NFL,
or didnt you get that memo? minter is the hardest hitting, most physical DB in the NFL, usc doesnt produce a more physical DB than nebraska's minter,
just curious? hows that feel to be made a fool of, yet again?
now, MY NEXT POINT,

you said, and I quote, we only beat up on the K states of this world? while usc beats up on the mighty sooners?
you mean the sooners who were raped and sodomized by K state?
and you are bragging about that?

lets see.....IN CONTRAST, my great nebraska teams beat up on no. 3 miami, IN THEIR HOUSE! loaded with NFL hall of famers warren sapp and ray lewis?
lets see, my nebraska team rape fucked an undefeated, PERFECT 12-0 florida team!
a florida team with more speed than usc could ever dream of, a heisman winner, and fred taylor running the rock?
a PERFECT 12-0 team is who nebraska beat,
now, who did usc beat? a sooner team who was raped and humiliated by K state?
when your faggott trojans can beat the best speed from florida, then, we'll talk,
until that day, YOUR TROJAN FAG squad hasnt beaten anybody of consequence, OH, you had a chance to butch up and finally beat an unbeaten texas team, but......YOU LOST!
so, I repeat, who'd ya beat?
WOW, I just made you look like a silly fag, YET AGAIN!

see, before you open your mouth in here, you should think, so far, ive made a fool out of you, and im not even warmed up yet,

oh, and yes, if we polled this forum, usc would lose to 95 nebraska, dont take my word for it, just poll the forum, damm, you are one stupid inbred fuck,
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Bradhusker wrote:FUNNY, cause mike minter is better than any current usc defensive back in the NFL, or didnt you get that memo?
Guess I missed that memo too.

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bradhusker wrote:van?

it seems that you are ignoring the FACTS.

you called the 95 nebraska offense primitive? do you realize, that by you saying that, it PROVES you know nothing about football?

did you not realize that the triple option offense that Osborne ran in 1995, was the most complex in all of college football?
nebraska had so many more formations and possibilities, with their complex offense, than usc could ever dream of having.
ask any football coach, and they will tell you just how complex the playbook for the 95 huskers was.
when I mentioned mike minter, mike brown, wistrom and rucker, you just laughed?
FUNNY, cause mike minter is better than any current usc defensive back in the NFL,




or didnt you get that memo? minter is the hardest hitting, most physical DB in the NFL, usc doesnt produce a more physical DB than nebraska's minter,
just curious? hows that feel to be made a fool of, yet again?
now, MY NEXT POINT,

you said, and I quote, we only beat up on the K states of this world? while usc beats up on the mighty sooners?
you mean the sooners who were raped and sodomized by K state?
and you are bragging about that?

lets see.....IN CONTRAST, my great nebraska teams beat up on no. 3 miami, IN THEIR HOUSE! loaded with NFL hall of famers warren sapp and ray lewis?
lets see, my nebraska team rape fucked an undefeated, PERFECT 12-0 florida team!
a florida team with more speed than usc could ever dream of, a heisman winner, and fred taylor running the rock?
a PERFECT 12-0 team is who nebraska beat,
now, who did usc beat? a sooner team who was raped and humiliated by K state?
when your faggott trojans can beat the best speed from florida, then, we'll talk,
until that day, YOUR TROJAN FAG squad hasnt beaten anybody of consequence, OH, you had a chance to butch up and finally beat an unbeaten texas team, but......YOU LOST!
so, I repeat, who'd ya beat?
WOW, I just made you look like a silly fag, YET AGAIN!

see, before you open your mouth in here, you should think, so far, ive made a fool out of you, and im not even warmed up yet,

oh, and yes, if we polled this forum, usc would lose to 95 nebraska, dont take my word for it, just poll the forum, damm, you are one stupid inbred fuck,


um van....? what about the rest of the post? the part about who my team beat, and the fact that your team has beaten no one of serious consequence.

yeah, read it again, cause, it makes you look retarded,
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The '04 Trojans destroyed an undefeated OU team that was thought to be better than anybody beaten by the '95 Huskers.

The one loss OU team you mentioned was beaten by LSU in '03. We destroyed the "This time we're making sure we take care of our bidness!" '04 OU team that many slobbering pundits labeled The Greatest Team Ever.

Try to keep up, Brad.

Mike Minter, huh?

Bwaaa.
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nice try van, but the 04 sooners were an over rated slow football team, with a shitty QB,
now, that sooner team was nowhere near the 12-0 gators, its not even close,
the gators featured a better runner in fred taylor, and a QB light years better in danny weurfell, who won the heisman, the sooners were a step too slow, in fact, many pundits say that the sooners were a vastly over-rated squad,
and of course, 04 usc did NOT face 4 final top ten teams, 95 nebraska did,
anyway you look at it, ive got you beat, AND, if you poll the forum, you will quickly see that 95 nebraska would crush your trojans,
its quite funny, 95 nebraska featured a much stronger defense than your trojans, thats a FACT.
also, our offense was ten times bigger and stronger up front, phillips and green were bigger, stronger and more powerful than bush and white,
on defense, our front seven would dominate your pussy team, and our secondary was more athletic than yours,
its no contest, the numbers dont lie, but you do van, you LIE big time,
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Van wrote:The '04 Trojans destroyed an undefeated OU team that was thought to be better than anybody beaten by the '95 Huskers.

The one loss OU team you mentioned was beaten by LSU in '03. We destroyed the "This time we're making sure we take care of our bidness!" '04 OU team that many slobbering pundits labeled The Greatest Team Ever.

Try to keep up, Brad.

Mike Minter, huh?

Bwaaa.
No one thought that blOwU was better than the 95 huskers that year, not even the most myopic spooner fan thought that.

2k4 USC would lose to the 95 huskers. They might put up some points but the Huskers would control the clock and ware the SC defense down. The Huskers bitchslapped some pretty good teams that year.

I still have not seen a better team than the 95 huskers.
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bradhusker wrote:nice try van, but the 04 sooners were an over rated slow football team, with a shitty QB,
They were one of the highest scoring teams in the history of the sport, led by a returning Heisman winner at QB. Most of that season there was talk of them being the best team ever. They looked the part, right up until the Orange Bowl.
now, that sooner team was nowhere near the 12-0 gators, its not even close,
the gators featured a better runner in fred taylor,
Adrian Peterson was considered better than Fred Taylor. Not even close.
and a QB light years better in danny weurfell, who won the heisman,
Danny Wuerffell wasn't a returning Heisman winner like OU's QB was and by no means was he "light years" better than anybody. He was a "product of the system" QB under Spurrier and he hasn't done jack since.
the sooners were a step too slow, in fact, many pundits say that the sooners were a vastly over-rated squad,
and of course, 04 usc did NOT face 4 final top ten teams, 95 nebraska did,
anyway you look at it, ive got you beat, AND, if you poll the forum, you will quickly see that 95 nebraska would crush your trojans,
its quite funny, 95 nebraska featured a much stronger defense than your trojans, thats a FACT.
also, our offense was ten times bigger and stronger up front, phillips and green were bigger, stronger and more powerful than bush and white,
on defense, our front seven would dominate your pussy team, and our secondary was more athletic than yours,
its no contest, the numbers dont lie, but you do van, you LIE big time,
Why do you keep saying Nebraska back in '95 was bigger, faster and stronger than the '04 Trojans? Upon what are you basing that?? USC's offensive line was HUGE, and they're pretty much all in the NFL right now. USC's '04 D was dominant; big, fast and physical, and loaded with NFL players too.

WTF are you talking about? You have no idea how big or how fast USC players were in '04. Hell, you don't even know how big or how fast Nebraska's players were in '95. You're just pulling all this shit outta yer ass...
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Vito Corleone wrote:
Van wrote:The '04 Trojans destroyed an undefeated OU team that was thought to be better than anybody beaten by the '95 Huskers.

The one loss OU team you mentioned was beaten by LSU in '03. We destroyed the "This time we're making sure we take care of our bidness!" '04 OU team that many slobbering pundits labeled The Greatest Team Ever.

Try to keep up, Brad.

Mike Minter, huh?

Bwaaa.
No one thought that blOwU was better than the 95 huskers that year, not even the most myopic spooner fan thought that.
Didn't say that, did I?

I said they were thought to be better than anybody beaten by the '95 Huskers. Also, yeah, back during the '04 regular season there was all sorts of media bullshit hype about the Sooners being the greatest team ever. Happens quite often, just like it did again last year.
2k4 USC would lose to the 95 huskers. They might put up some points but the Huskers would control the clock and ware the SC defense down. The Huskers bitchslapped some pretty good teams that year.

I still have not seen a better team than the 95 huskers.
"They might put up some points". Uhh, yeah, they might.

:-)

Just don't confuse the '04 Trojans with the defensively depleted squad you faced, Vito. Different teams.
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Van you need to keep in mind that the 05 Trojans were much better on offense than the 04 Trojans were. Yes I agree that the 04 defense was better than 05 but they had to be.

The 95 Huskers played one close game that year, how many did the 04 Trojans play?

Again, the Sooners were coming off a season in which they played for the MNC after losing the Big 12 conference championship. No one thought they were the best ever. Thier defense had just lost a ton of players including Tommie "Helmet shitter" Harris, Robert Strait, Pasha Jackson, Brandon Everage (I think), and "the worlds fastest man" Teddy Lehman. Their offense had lost most of their oline and their best RB.

The 04 Sooners were a far cry from their previous 03 counterparts.
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Vito, they were undefeated. They had a returning Heisman QB. They had Adrian Peterson. They were easily as well regarded as anybody Nebraska defeated in '95.

Bottom line, I'm not saying USC would clobber '95 Nebraska. I'm just saying there's no way anybody clobbers that '04 USC team, which is what Bradhusker is saying. You can't clobber a team who scored 30 to 40 on you, which is what that USC team would do to anybody, ever.

Also, nearly ten years earlier I highly doubt the '95 Nebraska team was bigger and faster than the '04 USC team.
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Van wrote:Vito, they were undefeated. They had a returning Heisman QB. They had Adrian Peterson. They were easily as well regarded as anybody Nebraska defeated in '95.

Bottom line, I'm not saying USC would clobber '95 Nebraska. I'm just saying there's no way anybody clobbers that '04 USC team, which is what Bradhusker is saying. You can't clobber a team who scored 30 to 40 on you, which is what that USC team would do to anybody, ever.

Also, nearly ten years earlier I highly doubt the '95 Nebraska team was bigger and faster than the '04 USC team.
I think you need to understand bradtalk. To brad clobber = win to normal people.

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Also keep in mind that Nebraska was juiced up to all hell. Christian Peter, their two DEs, and most of their oline was on the juice. I know SC has its own issues with Juice but I highly doubt they come close to the 95 Huskers.
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LOL!! Okay, yeah, I guess I need to get up to speed on the subtleties involved in Brad Lingo...

So, okay, "clobber" simply means "beat". "Dry fuck" means "clobber".

Gotcha. Now, what does "smoke 'em" mean, since he used that one too?

Lastly, are there any other ones I need to know?

More than anything, dude reminds of a nowhere near as funny Frank Rizzo.

Anyway, in terms of "juiced" or not, USC's O line averaged well over 300 lbs and that team had all sorts of speed everywhere. No way a Nebraska team from the mid '90s was significantly bigger or faster than a current team of USC's stature. The game just doesn't work that way. Each generation of players just keeps getting bigger and faster.
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hey van?
95 nebraska is of the SAME generation that 04 usc is, would you like to know where the generation line divides? good, I'll tell you.

about 1985 or so, the mid to late eighties is the next generation backward from today,
THEREFORE, the 95 huskers are just as big and strong as todays usc, and YES they were juiced up BIG TIME, and, YES we had some hard-core felons on the team, which is why your beloved 04 trojans would get seriously hurt against 95 nebraska, see, what you FAIL to understand here is this, 95 nebraska is a team without remorse, a team without conscience,
a team that had ZERO close calls, usc had several close calls,

van? would you like to know what constitutes a close call? simple, a game that is decided by a touchdown or less, meaning, that near the end of regulation, the game could go either way,
according to FACTS, usc had a few close calls, and 95 nebraska had NONE, ZERO.
plus, and this is huge, I'd write this down if I were you,

95 nebraska faced 4 final top ten teams, true top ten teams,
how many did usc face, just one, the sooners were the only one to finish the year in the final top ten,

so van? what did we learn today?
you learned that the teams from the mid to late nineties, were just as big strong and fast as today, just look at some of those tennessee teams with travis henry and jammall lewis, not to mention those fsu teams, those teams had sick sick size and speed, YES SIR, its the same generation as today, maybe in another ten years or so, the next generation will begin, HOWEVER, we are near a plateau, MEANING, human beings cant get much bigger without serious health concerns, for instance, 365 lb linemen cant really be 400 lbs without dropping dead on the field, the human body can only stand so much,
so when you think that somehow, your beloved trojans of 04 are something special, against the likes of the all time JAUGGERNAUT 95 nebraska! THINK AGAIN! you are fooling yourself,
and your family.
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