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Believe the Heupel wrote:Well, Adel, I seem to remember quite a bit of crying about it from Mizzou fan when it happened 16 years ago.

But hey, if Mizzou had just sacked up and stopped Colorado on 5th down, it wouldn't have even been an issue, right? Mizzou shouldn't have even only been up by one score.

they did stop him on 5th down

watch thereplay, comes on espnclassic occasionally. bienemy was 2 feet short of endzone when his back hit the turf on 5th down. shit happens.

i never cried then, MU allowed it to happen, as OU could of stopped Oregon from scoring. its just not worth fighting and arguing about. OU got screwd, happens every week to somone in football.

OUMO wrote:The differnce is that there is instant replay now, same shit is not supposed to happen.

Nice addition to the thread Van.

With:

-The Pac 10 official's apology to Oklahoma

-The Pac 10's official admission of errors made by the refs which hurt Oklahoma

-The Pac 10's suspension of the refs (even those that had no part in the disputed calls)

-The Pac 10's suspension of the replay officials

-Oklahoma president Boren's public acceptance of the apology and these other actions

What's left?

The game won't be expunged from the records. It's going down and sticking as a controversial win for Oregon. Oklahoma fan will forever feel jobbed. (Just like LSU Fan is feeling right now, or 'Canes Fan from the '02 Orange Bowl, or Raider Fan from the New England game, or...)

We get it. You feel jobbed.

It's over now though. Done and done. There's nothing left to bitch about. Turn the page.

bth


you can believe it or not, but before Colorado ran the play, we were celebrating the game being over, then became aware of the 5th down. my reaction was noone on MU stopped the down from being played? Noone from the coaching staff came onto the field to stop the play. I was extremely pissed at Stull and his band of yahoos, you can blame the refs for about 10 shit calls during that game, why bitch about another. Being a MU fan, i chalk it down as another great moment of tiger football. Another fucking kick to the groin by the football program and the people running the program.

On the kick ball, i wasnt pissed at all, i was like,"fuck it, nebraska gets a chance to represent the big12 in title game, and it keeps 1 of the florida schools out". Chalked down as another typical Mizzou game for loyal MU fan, another kick to the groin.



one day, MU will finally give us that glimmer of joy, making all of the years of losses to MAC schools and 50+ point losses to rivals a thing of the past, i will see that glimmer.

Man though, what if you don't??

What if it stays just like this for Mizzou Fan...forever??

Sincerely,
Wrigley Field Season Ticket Holder

Van wrote:What if it stays just like this for Mizzou Fan...forever??

Oh Lord, now you've done it, Van.

Whitey Wagon melt in 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

Hmmmm...

Was just listening to the local sports station, and John Canzano, a sports columnist for the local paper, was on and said he spoke with the replay official. Supposed to have a column on it tomorrow, but dropping a teaser on the radio, said something to the effect of "People are overlooking a very simple explaination of how the replay booth could possibly botch a call that badly...what's the most obvious reason why replay officials wouldn't have overturned it?"

Presumably insinuating that there was something wrong with the video...which isn't what the ref announced.

Now, refs on the field can screw up close calls, even ones they should have probably gotten right. But a lack of video in the video booth would make for a pretty darn plausable explaination, methinks.

What they hey...this game is still providing entertainment days after the fact....just not in the way we would have liked.

Van wrote:Man though, what if you don't??

What if it stays just like this for Mizzou Fan...forever??

Sincerely,
Wrigley Field Season Ticket Holder

as long as the tards in columbia are running it(while keeping the kc and stl boosters fighting each other)it will always be this way. cubs would be a very good example. the fans just expect bad shit to happen.

typical MU shit:they got the #1 player in the nation years back, the program was making a comeback, and they get(tony vanzant), a rb out of st.louis, and in a highschool all star game, he tore his knee to shreds. this wasnt the top rb, this guy was the best player in the nation. You could hear his knee tear from the KS border to east st.louis. He never came back with the speed (4.3) he showed as a highschooler. why not.
ah fuck it. atleast MU gets to beat up Solich and his bobcats this week

Glad to see University President Boren stepping up and addressing the crucial issues facing his university. I guess he wanted to grandstand a little because he missed the good old days when he did that on a daily basis as a US Senator....

To the University of Oklahoma this is a crucial issue.


Now lets talk about Hansen.

Hansen...finally shows up...to SKREW the PAC 10...

How many times does the PAC need to get screwed out of a deserving BCS bid and lose out on 14 million divided by all Conf. teams...lets take a stroll down memory lane... 2004...CAL is ranked #4 in AP, Coaches and combined BCS poll for 5 consecutive weeks, Texas #5...Final Poll...half the Big 12 vote CAL as low as #8 and Texas #2...

How about Oklahoma losing to Kansas State 31-6 in the Big 12 Championship then getting selected over USC for the NC game...letting LSU...who would have lost to USC by two TD's claim an NC...and then needle USC for three years...about not really being co-champions...

What about OSU and ASU at LSU for two consecutive years where there were a half dozen blatant bad calls that handed LSU a Victory... WHERE WAS THE NCAA...WHERE WAS HANSEN...and THE PAC 10 BCS SKREW JOB has happened to the PAC Four times...don't talk to me about fairness.

IT'S STILL ONE BAD, VERY CLOSE CALL...EVERY GAME HAS 3 OR 4 OF THEM...FOR HANSEN TO MAKE A REVERSAL IS ASININE.

Chokelahoma had a chance to win at the end but had a field goal blocked...they also went to two NC games they had no place being in.

FUCK Chokelahoma...Tom Hansen (hate this guy more every day) and the Oklahoma Pres...what a silly cry baby.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Boren's misguided reaction may owe a little to the fact that Oklahoma has been buttfucked in the mouth by the officials / instant replay in consectutive away games. I know that's added frustration to the fan base.

That being said, kindly shut your pie hole Mr. President. I'm the one who has to post on T1B.

BtH,

I held off making a comment to see if time changed my attitude. It didn't.

Horrible all the way around. Blind hit on the points we go thru and none of that worked. These guys deserve to be suspended and I would hope they get more than just one game. I know mistakes happen, but 9 guys should not miss what was missed in that game.

Further, I hope this game helps force the Pac - 10 to change their non-conference rules. All games between the Big 6 conferences use visiting teams officials. (Big 11 officials called the OSU v Texas game at Texas.) Here's hoping Boren gets other schools to use this to either get the Pac 10 to change their rules or to not schedule Pac 10 teams until they do. The visiting team should have their officials on the field.

I also hope this helps us move to conferences combining officials. I have pointed this out before, but I think soon we will see the Big 11 and Big XII combining their officials and calling them by a new name. This would help to standardize officials in larger regions.

bump...

for Cry Baby Sooner Fan.

Believe the Heupel wrote:*sniff*

You must have received a north breeze just now. The smell from the south is just that Ren Fair chick in the lower 48 who has nicknamed her snatch Strawberry Canyon.

RadioFan wrote:

Believe the Heupel wrote:*sniff*

You must have received a north breeze just now. The smell from the south is just that Ren Fair chick in the lower 48 who has nicknamed her snatch Strawberry Canyon.

That was deep, Clem.

Is this why you're still stuck living in Oklahoma?

A little insight as to why the fuckup was so bad... ?

A former college baseball pitcher in the 1960s who was inducted into the Portland State Hall of Fame in 1997, Riese said he never played football but always enjoyed the game during 28 years as a Pacific-10 Conference official.

He said the equipment is not as sophisticated as NFL replay equipment, and does not allow the official to freeze the frame.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5979336

Not saying that previous playing experience is required to ref for football, but it sure does help.

And WTF is up with death threats to this guy?? Jeez, it's a freakin' football game. Get over it. I was pissed at the game - then I got over it. The Pac 10 realized they screwed up and suspended the refs for one game. They are not going to strike it from the books. But I hope the Pac 10 gets on board with the rest of the conferences in doing away with the "only conference refs for non-conference games" bullshit.

Believe the Heupel wrote:Ask the Pac 10 to change a rule in which only their officials are used in non-conference home games.

If OU didn't like that rule before the game, they shouldn't have scheduled the series.

In all, this is freakin hysterical. You would think Boren had money on the game the way he's whining.

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregon ... thispage=1


Yup, the replay official didn't see the replays that you and I did.

You can stop with the death threats now, Soonerfan.

Bear in mind, the on-field call was blown by the same officiating crew that bailed the Sooners out time and time again, by not calling the 10 or so delay-of-games, some of which, if called, would have rendered the game a blowout, and the whole ending sequence moot.


But Soonerfan, and the rest of the country, doesn't want to talk about that part. It happened several times, and if my memory serves, one of them was before one of OU's crucial third down conversions, which would have possibly been "game over" had the correct call been made. Yet here sits some dweeb wanting the game stricken from the record books for bad officiating.

That shit WAY went both ways, but since Oregon was at the recieving end of it, in a situation they never should have been in, except for blown calls, everyone wants to hang Oregon for it?

Complete bullshit.


And seriously -- if there was a fucking to be had, somebody had to be on the "giving" end of the fucking...and I challenge anyone to name a team that's gotten fucked harder by the BCS era/system than Oregon. If the calls were that much of a game-changer(they just evened out in the end), was there a team more deserving of "extra love" than Oregon? Methinks not.

The rest of the country should be happy, anyway. The media/CFB are always looking for an excuse to fuck the Ducks/PAC10, and now wehn bowl selection time comes around, they have their excuse. Thanks to the OU whiners, Oregon could run the table, and the assholes-that-be STILL would find a way to keep them out of the championship game.

Oregon played a hell of a game(as did OU), got jobbed by the refs all day long, and overcame it and won. Hell, both teams were getting hosed/assisted by the zebras all game long.

But let's keep some perspective here, rather than let it turn in to the polarized water-cooler-discussion-of-the-week... One team racked up over 500 yards of offense. Their oppnent had to settle for field goals. The refs tried, by completely ignoring the play clock on a consistant basis for one team's benefit, to keep them in the game. Turnabout turned out to be "fair play" in the end, and the refs turned around and helped out the dominant team, who they'd been screwing all afternoon. In the end, the team that played the more efficient offense and held their opponent to FAR fewer yards, ended up winning in the end.


Get over it...the replay booth was broken....and if it was because some alum "tripped" over the cord....then RACK Ducksfan....who gets RACKed for being such a huge factor in the game, anyway.

I didn't see the game, but how the fuck did the official blow who recoverd the ball?

Killian wrote:I didn't see the game, but how the fuck did the official blow who recoverd the ball?

Actually, that same columnist, John Canzano, discussed this on the radio yesterday.

He says he was about 10 yards away from that play. Bear in mind that Canzano fully believes the "who touched it first" call was wrong, although he said it was very hard to see. But as far as who recovered, he said he, along with every single reporter/whoever on that sideline has no doubt as to who recovered the ball, and said that shouldn't be debated -- he said the ball came out of the bounce-around, Patrick Chuung of Oregon grabbed it and displayed full control of it on the ground, and...listen closely Soonerfans...THE WHISTLE BLEW WHILE CHUNG HAD CONTROL OF THE BALL ON THE GROUND(same thing I saw live, and in replay after replay). Again, he said the original call was in fact blown, but the "who recovered the kick" debate isn't even a debate -- said from the sidelines, Chung clearly recovered it, and the whistle blew while he controled it on the ground...said it was fairly obvious from where he sat. Then, either Chung gave up the ball to the ref, or he was bumped and it squirted out AFTER THE WHISTLE BLEW, and some OU dork picked it up and started dancing around with it like he was going to Disneyland or something. The play was DEAD when OU came up with the ball -- which was the correct call, as far as THAT portion of the call goes...I'm not sure why people are even arguing this -- it was the only part of the play that WAS clear.

Y'know...a few days later, OU's pity-party is losing its sympathy from me. While most Soonerfans exude class, like the ones on this board have, the vocal minority is making it hard to feel sorry for OU. When you start whining and crying about things that never actually happened, it starts to make you look like major whiners, rather than a group with a valid gripe, which OU may well have had...then again, so did Oregon. If OU had won, people would be talking about the infinite play-clock OU was playing with all game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlXgbKPUFt8

Who is this guy and why does he feel the need to make Sooner fans look worse?

I'm telling you. The President started it with his statement. All the Sooners had to do was let the nation, who was on their side run with it. But this is going to make people unsympathetic quickly.

I'd like to see the Sooners (and we fans) start preparing for Middle Tenn. St.

let's say for the sake of it: the game is deleted from the books. can you imagine the inane horseshit that would follow every close CFB game with a standing precedent like that? from official and unofficial sources, mind you, teams of University lawyers etc.

bad call. game over.

and let's all hope we don't have to revisit this game when all the BCS points are tallied....that the season takes care of itself.....or there is the BCS clusterfuck theory which if it made and inch progress toward some doable playoff.....then, i might reconsider. say, Texas runs the table here out, and with one loss is nudged by another one loss team by the cumulative effect of OU's BCS? then, other teams are involved and we'll all get to see that friggin highlight 8 million more times.

Believe the Heupel wrote:The replay booth got a different replay than the entire world saw.

Hello?

That is SOOOOOO September 18th.


And if the PAC10 says that the actual recovery was wrong, then they're just trying to placate the whiners. Once again, everyone on the sideline said the recovery was a no-brainer...like anyone who views the replay objectively would agree, if they could hear the whistle blow...while the Oregon player had control of the ball on the ground...which last I checked was a dead ball...they don't just let opponents keep kicking at the ball infinitely until it comes loose...a dead ball is a dead ball, regardless how much a freshman special-teamer dances around after the fact. You seem to forget that Oregon came up with a fumble the same way that ended up being OU ball...because the OU player controlled it while it was on the ground, the officials saw this, and ruled the play dead. But Soonerfan seems to want to conveniently forget that part.

Soonerfan is coming dangerously close to becoming Hall of Fame myopians, and are starting to give the impression that they think the rules should only apply to their opponent. Not one word from Soonerfan or the team about how badly Oregon got jobbed ALL GAME LONG. No word from Soonerfan about all the play-clock liberties they recieved ALL GAME LONG, which kept them in the game in the first place.

Ducksfan had nothing but sympathy for the Sooners and their fans, but now, the incessant whining from the vocal minority is quickly turning that sympathy into laughter and gloating.

"WE GOT ROBBED!" ...yeah Soonerfan...but what's your take on all those times the Sooners let the play clock expire, yet weren't called for delay of game so much as once? "Uhm, errr....WE GOT ROBBED!" How about the pushoff on the OU TD? "Uhm, errr....that wasn't [ii]enough[/i] of a violation of the rules to warrant a call against AMERICA'S TEAM...we got robbed."

Somebody call the whambulance. Soonerfan failing to acknowledge that their was ref-fuckings on BOTH sides of the ball, without which OU wouldn't have even been in the game in the first place, is looking pretty myopic at this point.

The officiating was bad...FOR BOTH TEAMS. Get the fuck over it already. Ducksfan is pissed that it came down to those calls at the end too, since it was buttfuckings from the refs that even puy them in that situation to begin with. The facts of this game are becoming so badly distorted, it's half comical, half sad.

And as far as the pass interference -- shut the hell up already. Yeah, that call was bad. And what effect did it have on the outcome? Oh, I dunno -- I guess OU would have actually played some sort of defense on the next play or something? This one is KILLING me -- OU covered NOBODY on the very next play, and let a guy pretty much waltz to a TD. What, was OU suddenly going to play some sort of defense if the call was made? Is that how the defensive coordinator makes his decisions..."Well, if we don't get the flags we feel we deserve, then we go into a 'let's not cover any recievers zone' "? That next play would have gone for 90 yards, if there was 90 yards of field left. That call is such a non-factor, I can't believe anyone is still whining about it. It could have been 3rd down and 40 for Oregon, and they were obviously going for it. Blaming a COMPLETE failure to play anything even vaguely resembling defense on a non-call on the play before...are you fucking kidding me? Whining at its ugliest.


Don't get me wrong -- the Soonerfans on this board are handling their fate well, which should come as a suprise to no one -- but as a whole, the voice of Oklahoma that's being heard isn't putting the program/university/state-in-general in a very good light.

My thoughts on this matter are that the officials was too scared to rule against Oregon at that point in the game. THey weren't rooting for Oregon, they just didn't want to make a call that would end the game. So they were committed to going with a call that kept the game alive. I bet they were hoping OU would make the field goal so they would be off the hook.

Also,

Oklahoma score a 3rd quarter touchdown on what appeared to be offensive pass interference. It was a big play, so that non-call definitely affected the game.

In response to writers like Jason Whitlock who went ahead and voted Oklahoma ahead of Oregon ecause of the call I say this, if you think factors other than the score can justify your vote, then why not look at the fact that Oregon put up so many yards and looked like the much more skilled football team?

Oh and, it's about time a Big 12 power got a taste of a little college football injustice. I'm sure 1990 Mizzou, 2001 Oregon, Rex Grossman, and 2003 USC feel really bad for the Sooners.

Q, West Coast Style wrote:In response to writers like Jason Whitlock who went ahead and voted Oklahoma ahead of Oregon ecause of the call I say this....

Don't say anything to that racist fat piece of shit. He's too busy licking Jeff George's taint whilst trying to still fit into his "retro" Ball State jersey.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400754/from/ET/

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... id=2594247

http://cfn.scout.com/2/570097.html

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5982444

Like I said yesterday. The whole country was behind you, as it was, there was nothing you could do except turn people off. The OU president not only made a mockery of himself and the university, but issued an open invitation for any disgruntled Sooner Fan to bombard the media with emails and death threats.

That's a nice article, other than the fact that it's horribly written. Also, try reading the comments at the end of it (also horribly written, but beside the point) before you talk about how the nation is "against OU."

Man, all of this bullshit sucks ass. We played three (well, two) really damn fine games in the last couple of years, and now all we're talking about is this horseshit. Fuck.

I hope we meet in a bowl again this year. Think anybody'd watch that one? :D Hell, it might be more watched than the freaking BCS title game.

the_ouskull

I agree that it sucks.

I'd love a rematch in a bowl game. I wouldn't be suprised if both of our teams are eligible for the Holliday Bowl again. I really don't see either one of us, honestly, going undefeated anyway. Perhaps a few breaks and we could both be BCS eligible though too.

I wonder if the bowls would think the controversial win would be enough incentive to override the fact that we've played 3 times in such a short period of time, though.

I'm sure the players from both teams would welcome a rematch and I know the fans would too.

If they meet in the Holiday Bowl, I might volunteer to officiate.

After all, I'm not a PAC 10 homer, and I can get to the Murph on public transportation.

JayDuck wrote: I really don't see either one of us, honestly, going undefeated anyway.

Oklahoma's chances are especially tough....

The Seer wrote:

JayDuck wrote: I really don't see either one of us, honestly, going undefeated anyway.

Oklahoma's chances are especially tough....

GOOD POINT

But I thought both our teams were 2-0*

Dude... Richard Lee's family is hot.

Sorry, watching the WSOP on ESPN. Anyway, yeah, I'm moving on...

But anyway, yeah... if our defense starts playing better, I like our chances of going undefeated this year. (And I'm kidding, you freaking jerkoffs.)

the_ouskull

Believe the Heupel wrote: And I'm amazed that I've met the ONE Mizzou fan who didn't bitch about the fifth down. Like, at all. Because the rest of you sure as hell did. And I notice you're bringing it up 16 years later.

Me too. The gibberish that spews from adleds mouth continually amazes me.

For the record, this Mizzou fan was much more distraught over the kicked ball for a last second game tying TD against Nebraska than I was about the 5th down against Colorado.

I keep waiting for the payback, and for the worm to finally turn. One day it will, and I don't believe that time is too far off.

As for Oklahoma getting screwed by that horrible call, at least it happened to you guys on the road, where that kind of thing is almost expected.

Mizzou got royally screwed twice, in their own backyard.

You tell me which sucks worse.

Getting screwed FOUR times, in only TWO different backyards?

WITH replay.

the_ouskull

Yep, OU got farked in the goat arse. As a football fan, that game was too good to have been decided by incompetent refs, too much was on the line for both teams. Tainted victory for UO.

Seeing the outrage from the OU nation, the name calling, the threats to pull out of future PAC-10 games, the remarks by Boren, the desperation and the pain is, well, delightful to a Texas fan.

Ever see the Southpark episode where Cartman rolls around naked in Kyle's money? Yeah, it's like that... :twisted:

Wha

Wha

Wha


OU fan is just being straight-up funny now. This forum is all the microcosm one needs to see it.

Where is Soonerfan's outrage at the fact that OU wasn't bound by the play clock at any point during that game? You know, the play clock that OU let run down and wasn't penalized for when they scored a TD that probably wouldn't have happened save for a blown call? That same play clock that the entire country watched run down to zero before OU snapped the ball on several occasions?

Where's the outrage, Soonerfan? Or at least the acknowledgement that OU wouldn't even have been in contention in the game if not for the refs fucking the Ducks over and over?

Not one Soonerfan on any board I've seen has done anything but completely ignore THAT part.


Soonerfan is not being very honest with this issue.

I HATE it when the officiating overshadows a game, but the Most Fucked Over Team in BCS history got one in its favor...for once. Despite the refs trying to hand the game to OU.

Believe the Heupel wrote:Oregon has a win in their record books.

And some fucking loudmouth is crying for it to be taken away from the mountaintops(or as close as Oklahoma comes to "mountaintops").

My point is, that OU recieved PLENTY of love from the refs that day...despite Soonerfan's assertion that "well, the pushoff wasn't that bad...but damn those refs!!!"

:insertrolleyes:

Yet Sooner Nation wants the whole country to conveniently forget all the other bad calls that helped them, and instead dwell on two calls -- one that yanked them out of a position they were only in because of bad calls in their favor, and one that had no effect on the game, since OU's defense decided to grow a vagina while sitting in awe of the Oregon offense, like much of the country was at that point.

Again, I'm unhappy with the officiating, which was horrible FOR BOTH TEAMS. But for Oklahoma and its fans to act like this was some sort of one-way street is laughable, childish, and quite dishonest.


But for some odd reason, I think both teams are going to be the recipients of questionable referee favoritism, since I'm pretty sure there's some fat bald dudes licking their chops over a OU/U of O Holiday Bowl, and might take some extra measures to ensure it happens...OK, maybe not, but it makes for a wonderful conspiracy theory.

Believe the Heupel wrote: Which "several" calls are we talking about?

I'm ready to let this go anytime...I'll just follow Soonerfan's lead...probably sometime around 2011.

Rather than argue specifics, I'll ask a question: Do you, or do you not agree that the officiating in that game absolutely sucked the entire game, and do you agree/disagree that OU wasn't the only team on the recieving end of bad officiating?


The Sooners are crying about losing a game in which they gave up over 500 yards of offense.

Believe the Heupel wrote: Move on. Oklahomans have accepted it. The only people who keep bringing it up are Duck Fans who somehow feel disrespected out of this.

Dear fucking god...please tell me a Soonerfan didn't just post this?

Please?

Really?


So could you do me one big favor here?


Tell me on which date it was that Bob Fucking Stoops became a "Duck Fan?"

The man, along with the university president, have, in the span of a few days, rewritten American History to redifine the name "Trail of Tears."

And now you have the unmitigated gall to say the only people bringing it up are Ducks Fans?

Dude, I'd say you've attended one too many Renfaires with M2, and your brain is damaged.

I guess I'll rest my case as to how dishonest Soonerfans are in regard to the issue.



Soonerfan Credibility, I'd like you to meet my friend Open Window....oh, I see you two have already met.

Yeah dude, I'm SURE that if we linked up to a Sooner messageboard, we'd have to go back several days to see any sort of discussion on the topic...

:world'sbiggestrolleyes:


C'mon -- you, personally, have been a reasonable and class act on the matter, as have the other Soonerfans on this board. Don't tarnish that by going down this particular raod, a road that's paved with complete bullshit.

Because I know you're not so fucking stupid as to persue the tack of "Soonerfan has moved on, Ducks Fan is dwelling on this" -- because NOBODY is that stupid, and I KNOW you aren't.

Or, I can link up one of...oh, say....about 50,000 websites, including any and all major sports media outlets that will prove you wrong beyond any and all doubt.


Puh-fucking-leeez. Seeing why Duck fan is getting off on this? It's the unbelievable denial/myopia that Soonerfan is showing, and at this point has little to do with the result of the game. Basically, as your post clearly demonstrates, Sooner Nation has resorted to lying to make their case...THAT'S what's so funny, days later.


"Sooner Fan has moved on"....BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Uhm, hello? Does the phrase "We might have to cancel our game at Washington if the PAC10 doesn't agree to do things our way" ring any bells? Hello?

If that's the Okie version of "moving on," I'd hate to see what happens when they get their panties in a bunch and decide to dwell on something.


Don't bitch at Duck Fan about this -- police your own, and demand silence from the minority that's making your entire group look like bitter pussies...that's not on Duck Fan, and you know it.