Will The real Barbra Streisand Shut the $#@*!! UP!!

Degenerate · Post by **Degenerate** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:20 pm

Harvdog wrote:What slays me about these performers is that most of them have zero education. Yet, they feel like they have the right to spout off about stuff they mostly know nothing about.

Leave Rush Limbaugh out of this.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:23 pm

Harvdog wrote:What slays me about these performers is that most of them have zero education. Yet, they feel like they have the right to spout off about stuff they mostly know nothing about. When rock stars get on TV and start with all their political bullshit, I turn it off.

The crazy thing is there are some kids that see this shit and they start developing their political beliefs based on what some uneducated singer thinks. That is the scary part. Just because you have a mic and a record deal, it doesn't make you a preacher of views. I would have asked for a refund from both Babs and Ted.

Great point

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:25 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Harvdog wrote:What slays me about these performers is that most of them have zero education. Yet, they feel like they have the right to spout off about stuff they mostly know nothing about.
Just because they act for a living does not necessarily mean they are distant from the issues.

It also doesn't make them Einstein either. When kids are watching a show and the lead singer of a band comes out and plays a show kids look up to them. Most of these guys and gals and this is a generaliztion might have a high school education. Then, half way through the show they start spouting off about their beliefs. Wait a minute. You could barely get out of high school, didn't go to college, and now you are an expert on politics? I didn't pay to hear you preach. It is the same with religion. Who cares? Shut the fuck up and play your music, act in your movie, collect your check and let me enjoy what I paid my money to watch.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:28 pm

No 'kids' watch Barbara Striesand or Ted Nugent.

Neither one raps and they're both butt-ugly.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:31 pm

Harvdog wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
Harvdog wrote:What slays me about these performers is that most of them have zero education. Yet, they feel like they have the right to spout off about stuff they mostly know nothing about.
Just because they act for a living does not necessarily mean they are distant from the issues.
It also doesn't make them Einstein either. When kids are watching a show and the lead singer of a band comes out and plays a show kids look up to them. Most of these guys and gals and this is a generaliztion might have a high school education. Then, half way through the show they start spouting off about their beliefs. Wait a minute. You could barely get out of high school, didn't go to college, and now you are an expert on politics? I didn't pay to hear you preach. It is the same with religion. Who cares? Shut the fuck up and play your music, act in your movie, collect your check and let me enjoy what I paid my money to watch.

Then I suppose that Babs ticket sales will suffer?

Or maybe not so much.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:38 pm

Harvdog wrote:It also doesn't make them Einstein either.

Nobody said they were Einstein. Methinks you have some issues.

Songs, the things that band's market along with their image, have words. These words can be a call to bring the sexy back, or it can be a genuine expression of the song's writer. If it is a song with genuine expression, and the beat is catchy enough, these words can find

Songs about girl trouble seem to do well because there are lots of people with girl trouble. There are also people with other troubles that can seem relatable; I got sent to Iraq despite there being no rationale, my job got sent overseas, I think I should be able to have an abortion. These songs will find their audience.

If you are not part of the audience for these songwriters, go back to listening to Justin Timberlake.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:44 pm

$750.00 to watch Yentl croak out some over-trodden diddies? Never fucking ever.

She skull-fucked each and every one of those folks. $ 7 5 0 . 0 0? Bwaaahahahahaha

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:58 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Harvdog wrote:It also doesn't make them Einstein either.
Nobody said they were Einstein. Methinks you have some issues.

Songs, the things that band's market along with their image, have words. These words can be a call to bring the sexy back, or it can be a genuine expression of the song's writer. If it is a song with genuine expression, and the beat is catchy enough, these words can find

Songs about girl trouble seem to do well because there are lots of people with girl trouble. There are also people with other troubles that can seem relatable; I got sent to Iraq despite there being no rationale, my job got sent overseas, I think I should be able to have an abortion. These songs will find their audience.

If you are not part of the audience for these songwriters, go back to listening to Justin Timberlake.

The important thing you said was Songs. There is a difference between songs and stopping a show and preaching your political beliefs to a crowd of peoplet hat paid to see you sing songs.

I think every band has a right to sing about whatever they want. Some sing about chicks, some sing about drinking, some about death, and some about issues. That is their right. Does it make them right? Can I like their music and disagree with their religious and political beliefs? Yes. That is what is great about this country. But if you paid to go see someone sing songs and they want to get political then I would be pissed.

I cannot stand when these fuckers get on award shows and use it as a stage for political agenda. I didn't pay to see that. They aren't singing any songs....acting in movies......but they feel it is their right to lecture on their beliefs. That is bullshit.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:02 pm

You pay to watch award shows? You do have issues.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:02 pm

Harv, I just don't understand where you encounter this stuff. They opine politically at their shows, and at awards ceremonies? I don't know about you, but I'm not generally watching that stuff.

I'd go ahead and assume that most of the folks dishing out $ 7 5 0 . 0 0 to see babs have a good grasp on what her politics are. Also, the awards shows (from the little that I've seen) are some of the least compelling televised events ever. Where are you in all of this? How is it that your peace of mind is disturbed?

Do you show up at tee time with a tennis racket?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:05 pm

No Harv, the important thing is that you didn't like what she said. This wouldn't even be a freakin subject were it not for the fact that this board is populated by halfwit dittomonkeys.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:10 pm

Harvdog wrote:The important thing you said was Songs.

Who wrote those songs? In cases of those with this political slant, the artists performing also wrote the songs. If Green Day played American Idiot, and then gave a little bit of exposition to better help the audience understand why they wrote that song, it would help the artist better connect with his audience. I'm sure the little turds in Green Day want people to get what they meant with the wake me when september ends song.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:13 pm

BSmack wrote:No Harv, the important thing is that you didn't like what she said. This wouldn't even be a freakin subject were it not for the fact that this board is populated by halfwit dittomonkeys.

It has nothing to do with what she said. It is the fact that people paid to see her sing songs and she uses it as a platform for a political motivation. I wouldn't pay .75 too see her old wrinkled ass sing but hey, I wasn't born in the 50's and I am not gay. Calling me a halfwit because I think she is out of line is stupid. I think your comments are because you are anti-Bush and think I am pro-Bush. You obvioulsy know nothing about me.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:18 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
Harvdog wrote:The important thing you said was Songs.
Who wrote those songs? In cases of those with this political slant, the artists performing also wrote the songs. If Green Day played American Idiot, and then gave a little bit of exposition to better help the audience understand why they wrote that song, it would help the artist better connect with his audience. I'm sure the little turds in Green Day want people to get what they meant with the wake me when september ends song.

I love Green Day. I get the meaning of the songs. Punk has always been about angst. Obvioulsy Billy Joe doesn't like the political culture of the United States these days. He isn't apart of the "Redneck Agenda" either. I get it. He has a right to compose, sing, and perform these songs. I have a right to buy them or shut off the radio if I don't like them. Personally, I like Green Day. I have seen them in concert and don't remember them stopping the show to spout their beliefs. I also don't remember them spouting off with U2 during the first game back in New Orleans on Monday night football either.

Harvdog · Post by **Harvdog** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:20 pm

I paid for ESPN so the answer is yes.

OCmike · Post by **OCmike** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:49 pm

Mister Bushice wrote:The way I see it, If you are stupid enough to buy a ticket to see her as hagged out and OVER (as she so obviously is), you deserve whatever shit she serves up.

Word. Well said.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:13 pm

Harvdog wrote:
BSmack wrote:No Harv, the important thing is that you didn't like what she said. This wouldn't even be a freakin subject were it not for the fact that this board is populated by halfwit dittomonkeys.
It has nothing to do with what she said. It is the fact that people paid to see her sing songs and she uses it as a platform for a political motivation. I wouldn't pay .75 too see her old wrinkled ass sing but hey, I wasn't born in the 50's and I am not gay. Calling me a halfwit because I think she is out of line is stupid. I think your comments are because you are anti-Bush and think I am pro-Bush. You obvioulsy know nothing about me.

So you'll be blasting Ted Nugent next?

Give me a break Harv, you hate what she said, not where she said it.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:20 pm

yeah, B but how many pro-Bush celebs abuse their power of the mic?? You bring up Nugent, ok fine. But Babs is just one fo the many HS grads in Hollywood/NY who think they know more than the President or the Admin.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:23 pm

There are high school dropouts that have more on the ball than the Chimp.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:24 pm

Whatever you say.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:25 pm

Cicero wrote:yeah, B but how many pro-Bush celebs abuse their power of the mic??

Limbaugh. Coulter. Bill O'Stalker. Hannity.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:26 pm

They get paid to do that. That is their job. You expect that when you tune in. None of them are musicians or actors. And you people call me stupid.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:27 pm

Cicero wrote:yeah, B but how many pro-Bush celebs abuse their power of the mic??

Obviously the concepts of free enterprise and the 1st Amendment elude your mental grasp. Striesand paid for that hall and she sold the tickets. In America that means she can say or do whatever the hell she wants to within the law. She didn't say she wanted to depose Bush or harm him, she called him an idiot. Of course you and I have the right not to pay for the tickets to her show. That's America baby.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:31 pm

Cicero wrote:And you people call me stupid.

Not much risk of that changing.

PSUFAN · Post by **PSUFAN** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:55 pm

Sissyrow wrote:Babs is just one fo the many HS grads in Hollywood/NY who think they know more than the President or the Admin.

Well said.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:26 pm

Cicero wrote:And you people call me stupid.

Probably because you insist on dropping nonsequiturs...like this one.