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Believe the Heupel wrote:
Hey, Dins, that Michael Jordan cat isn't a once-in-a-lifetime talent. He wasn't the consensus #1 mortgage-your-future pick for any team.

HEY NOW!!!!!

This was all fun and games until you went there.

Stay focused, Froz -- the focus being pointing out what a fool Van makes of himself every time he regales us with a "take" that doesn't involve USC...


Not bringing up years of pent-up anger on my end.

TIA

Believe the Heupel wrote:To be fair, I remember some discussion about Texas being all excited about clinching the worst record in the NFL.

Me too -- so they could draft the other once in a generation talent consensus mortgage-the-farm, do-whatever-it-takes-to-get-him consensus #1 pick...


VY.

Believe the Heupel wrote: I mean, it's not like the Blazers were hurting at the off guard.

Take it to the 1984 NBA forum, fukko.

Clyde came up as a 3-btw...backing up Kiki. Dr Jack wanted to play them both together, hence the "prototype" off guard, and hence no need to take another 2 with the #2 pick. But looking back, in retrospect, LaMarcus Bowie probably wasn't the best choice....ERRRRR, I mean...


Just stop it.

You're completely full of shit, Dins...again.

Practically the entire second half of the season in the NFL last year was referred to in terms of who was going to land Reggie? Magazine covers, radio talk shows, all the NFL draft shows...everything, everywhere.

No way in hell there's been anywhere near that same amount of NFL talk about AD this year, or last year.

When you can't even ackowledge this most obvious of facts you really have no business here. As always, you're simply throwing out insults and baiting. Keep hanging your hat on the stupid and vacuous nic thing, it's more in keeping with your usual flatulent style.

B-t-H, the Michael Jordan comparison is actually far more apropos to Reggie than it is to AD. Most draft pundits were saying Houston's decision to bypass Reggie in favor of going for a "need pick" like Mario "Bowie" Williams might very well end up seeing them viewed in later years as the Portland Trail Blazers of the 2006 NFL draft.

I appreciate your chipping in with that, though.

Van wrote:You're completely full of shit, Dins...again.

Practically the entire second half of the season in the NFL last year was referred to in terms of who was going to land Reggie? Magazine covers, radio talk shows, all the NFL draft shows...everything, everywhere.

No way in hell there's been anywhere near that same amount of NFL talk about AD this year, or last year.

When you can't even ackowledge this most obvious of facts you really have no business here. As always, you're simply throwing out insults and baiting. Keep hanging your hat on the stupid and vacuous nic thing, it's more in keeping with your usual flatulent style.

B-t-H, the Michael Jordan comparison is actually far more apropos to Reggie than it is to AD. Most draft pundits were saying Houston's decision to bypass Reggie in favor of going for a "need pick" like Mario "Bowie" Williams might very well end up seeing them viewed in later years as the Portland Trail Blazers of the 2006 NFL draft.

I appreciate your chipping in with that, though.

Yea, those were the same people that were calling USC the best ever, we know how that turned out.

I have no problem with saying Bush is a great back and looks to have a very promising NFL career.

But if I were a GM I would look hard at taking him #1 overall, a big back with his speed is rare. He is injury prone but if you look at his injuries they have all been minor and to different areas.

Vito, AD doesn't have Bush's speed. You're right though, that'd be rare.

That'd be Bo Jackson.

Well, if we're using mock drafts as ammo:

Great Blue North

Great Blue North wrote:Usually by the time we approach the mid-point of the college football schedule, the top of the upcoming draft board is really starting to come into focus. So far this year, however, no one has really stepped up and put a lock on a top slot at the 2007 draft. Indeed, figure at this time that there is pretty much a dead heat between Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn, Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson and Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson at the very top of the 2007 draft board.

later:

Great Blue North wrote:While Notre Dame’s Quinn is still likely the highest-rated player on most draft value boards around the NFL, juniors Oklahoma’s Peterson and Georgia Tech’s Johnson have both closed the gap on the top spot. The Sooners Peterson, for example, has quietly put together a solid season rushing for an average of over 160 yards per game despite the fact that opposing defences have been crowding the line of scrimmage because of the one-dimensional nature of the Oklahoma offence. And after playing much of the season in relative anonymity, the 220-pound Peterson will get a chance to show his stuff this weekend when the Sooners play their annual shootout with defending national champion Texas.

It appears that AD was closing the gap on the top spot until his injury. Of course, this is just a "mock" draft.

Oh and someone in this thread said that Walter Payton wasn't very physical. Whomever said that needs to have a clock work orange treatment with Sweetness highlights playing non-stop.

I already know the answer to this question, but it hasn't been asked here yet and should have been.

WTF was AD doing in the game at that point anyway? Dude should have been talking to his Dad down behind the OU bench or getting out of his shoulder pads, etc.

As a casual fan of OU, I put this injury squarely on the shoulders of Stoops.

Up a couple of scores with around 7:30 left in the game is a time you can be thinking about pulling your starters, but it's not an automatic.

Bullshit. We knew who you were. We knew we'd be up by a coupla TDs with over seven minutes left. We knew it. That win was automatic.

That game was always in the bag. We won! We won!

Didn't we??

-Denny Green

Any word on where on Petersons Collarbone did the break occur?
Having broken both of my collar bones several times, I can say that it is likely one of the most painful breaks you can suffer. Its also a very tricky fix.
Theres no cast for that break, there are just one of two slings that they can put you in, the standard over the shoulder sling, which if Peterson is in that, it was a straight and uncomplicated break.
The other sling is called a figure 8 and that sling is used when the break was not a straight and clean break.
With a clean break, Peterson could be healed in 4-6 weeks, however those types of breaks are rather rare, especially the way that it appeared Peterson broke his.
It looked as if he broke his Clavicle by trying to brace his fall with his left hand which would cause the arm/shoulder to jam back in to the Clavicle. If thats the case, the bone is more likely to have broken out near the shoulder and will have broken both up and back. My nephew broke his that way back in July and the orthopedists still havent cleared him to go back to racing MX yet. He is 11 and is supposed to heal at quicker rate than someone in their 20's would heal.
Clavicles heal by new bone growing, the break will always appear to be there when you look by the naked eye (lump where the break occured) but more bone/calcium has built around the break fusing the bone back together. Where the break occured before will become stronger than it originally was but to either side of the break, the bone will be weaker. When the break is near the shoulder, you can have major problems with the shoulder joint and hopefully for Peterson, it happened far enough from the shoulder to prevent that from happeneing.
They could do surgery and put screws into Petersons Clavicle, but if the break happened close enough to his shoulder joint, that may not save his football career.
Clavicles are a bad break, especially for football players, best of luck to the kid, hope he heals correctly and is able to continue to play football.

Believe the Heupel wrote:They're saying he can play in 4-6 weeks, so I'm assuming it was a simple break. The latest I've heard is probably the OSU game.

Thats a best case scenario then, good for Peterson. He probably broke his bone closer to his chest then where there is less of a load on the bone, most of my breaks occured there. Its a blunt trauma break instead of the arm bone jamming back in to the shoulder and causing the Clavicle to break out near the shoulder.
Still painful but easier to make a quick recovery from

If it was a muscle or tendon injury Id agree with you
This is a bone injury, the only way he'd recover quicker from it is if his body somehow produces more calcium than other peoples bodies.
He just needs to keep his arm secure and try to not move it at all, take calcium supliments and allow the bone to heal.

Questionable, I agree, but I don't know that you can put the blame for a freak injury on the head coach.

6:30 to go and you are up by three scores and your opponent has done nothing in the second half. Your Heisman candidate already has 150 yards and a TD. I don't think he should have been in at all.

I still think this is on Stoops, as the only reason AD is in is to rack up stats.

So maybe it is going to take an injury to a great player to show Stoops that you can pull starters earlier than the 5 minute mark.

He clearly learned a lot from Scuba Steve, but protecting players wasn't one of them.

FYI the TD was scored at 6:35 to go. We can agree to disagree but watching the game I didn't think he should have been out there for the drive, I certainly don't think so now, and I bet Stoops is bothered by it now.

If he asked nicely, maybe Vince would come down and touch his shoulder, if AD has faith I'm sure he will be healed. :D

Most Longhorn fans have that kind of faith in him.

I have no problem with a runningback being in the game with 7:30 left in the 4th. yea the game was in the bag but that is the time to run clock and a back that pounds the defense and gets first downs is exactly what you want in there.

Ricky Williams got a lot of yards that way and sealed many victories, but then again that was back in the day when the Texas defense couldn't be trusted with any lead.