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Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:09 pm**

montinelevin wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
My beef with you was that I read your post as attempting to assert that ND does not belong in the BCS. I disagree, especially in light of the rules that are in place (i.e., no more than one at-large bid per conference).
Feel free to win a bowl game... "any fucking bowl game" before you claim to be BCS worthy.

Since when is that relevant to what happens this year.

Terry, when was the last time ND won a bowl game?

Certainly more recently than the last time KAL won its conference.

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:12 pm**

Shoalzie wrote:If there's such a beef over Ohio State-Michigan II, I don't think the bowl honks would like to see Notre Dame-Michigan II especially after the Irish's second loss. Michigan should at least play another one-loss team or someone in the top 5 or 6. I'm curious to know why Florida isn't the discussion...what is the selection procedure for these infernal travesties of humanity...I mean BCmesS games?

The problem is that all these tie-in's exist to the bowls. The addition of the 5th bowl actually makes the matchups less compelling because of these tie-ins. The Rose Bowl has to take Michigan essentially, but they aren't any eligible PAC-10 Teams to take so they can pick from ONLY the Big East Champ or an at-large team. They CANNOT take any other conference champs as they all have direct tie-ins.

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

Your Conference Champions are:

OSU
USC
Florida/Arkansas - Has to play in Sugar Bowl
Wake/Ga Tech - Has To play in Orange Bowl
OU/Neb - Has to Play in Fiesta Bowl
Lousville/Rutgers - Can play anywhere.

The Rose Bowl gets the first 2 picks, and they can only chose from Michigan, The Big East Winner, and the other 3 At Large Teams.

That's how it works.

(I Think)

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:35 pm**

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
montinelevin wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:
My beef with you was that I read your post as attempting to assert that ND does not belong in the BCS. I disagree, especially in light of the rules that are in place (i.e., no more than one at-large bid per conference).
Feel free to win a bowl game... "any fucking bowl game" before you claim to be BCS worthy.
Since when is that relevant to what happens this year.

Terry, when was the last time ND won a bowl game?
Certainly more recently than the last time KAL won its conference...or even a single significant road game.

FTFY

Posted: **Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:58 pm**

montinelevin wrote:notre dame... penis envy... notre dame... penis envy....

notre dame obviously gets the benefit of the doubt, but that's because they've spent 100+ years building their reputation. and no, stringing together a few 8-win seasons - per cal - doesn't constitute building a reputation.

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umich/nd rematch