RACK Boise State

[BSmack]

Besides, you just gave the lie to your "oh so factual" statements when you admitted that Pac 10 teams are generally unwilling to schedule home and home series against mid majors.

Now your just plain reaching, and exposing your lack of knowledge of the working of Big Time CFB.

I'm perfectly aware of how CFB scheduling works. Schools from big conferences schedule mid majors on THEIR terms. Thank you for illuminating my point YET AGAIN.

[Dinsdale]

On second thought, since all the info you need is right here in front of me(since CFB fans tend to...you know...follow CFB) --

Central Michigan has been a "good mid-major." They played Michigan this season.

Ohio is a somewhat decent mid-major...they played OSU.

Miami(Ohio) has been a "good mid-major," although they had a down year this year...they played Northwestern and Perdue. Miami was a bowl-team when those games were most likely scheduled.

Houston has done pretty well in recent years(and was the top team in the conference this season) in Conference USA...they played OK State and Miami(FLA) this season.

BYU is generally considered the top of the class in mid-majors over the last several seasons...they played Arizona this season.

Texas Christian? They played Baylor and Taco Tech.

Utah had an undefeated season very recently. They played UCLA.

Troy won their conference(Sun Belt)...they played Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Nebraska.

As you even pointed out (KYOA, much?) BSU played Oregon State this season.

Hawaii played Alabama, Oregon State, and Perdue.

Up-and-coming Nevada played Arizona State.




Is 18 examples just from this past season enough, or shall I continue?

[Dinsdale]

Schools from big conferences schedule mid majors on THEIR terms. Thank you for illuminating my point YET AGAIN.

Oh, is that the game now? Since you were clearly proven wrong, and taken to task for it, you now add qualifiers and completely change "your point" (which doesn't even vaguely resemble your original point), so as to not look like such a dumbfuck?


Not suprising.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Schools from big conferences schedule mid majors on THEIR terms. Thank you for illuminating my point YET AGAIN.

That's your... "point"? So... some school steeped in tradition and history... let's say Michigan, should take Notre Dame off their schedule, losing millions of dollars in the process, to travel to some mid-major school who may suck the year the game is to be played just to appease idiots like you? Is that what your "point" is? Of course they make deals on their own terms. They're fucking Michigan for chrissakes. This would be the real life equivalent of JTR telling the hottest hooker on the face of the earth that he's gonna fuck her and she has to pay him for his time.

[MuchoBulls]

Let's not forget the Big East. Or the Big 12.

I'd still think they'd have a hard time being able to run through an entire Big East, or Big 12 schedule.

I find it a bit hard to believe that Boise had a tougher schedule than Alabama. Alabama played Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee. Does Boise even have more than 1 team on their schedule who is ranked higher than those 5?

[Dinsdale]

Is that what your "point" is?

Depends on which thread page he's on. He reserves the right to change "points" whenever his previous point was rendered asinine.

But seriously...listen to him...he knows how CFB scheduling works...just ask him.


But no, seriously -- those major programs OWE the mid-major-du-jour something. Matter of fact, it would be only right to send several of Ohio State's top boosters over to Miami Ohio, just to be fair. Matter of fact, all major conference teams should be required to send 50% of their 5 star recruits to their local mid major program.


Orgeon AD Bill Moos: Yeah, Michigan? Yeah, we're sorry, but we won't be able to honor that H&H we signed with you 11 years ago. You see, Nevada is an up-and-coming mid-mahjor, and they feel we owe it to them to pack their building out for them, rather than help you fill that 100K+ stadium of your. Yeah, well I realize that you helped us sell out every last SRO ticket we could print, but...we're just not going to be able to make it. Please accept our apologies. GOOOOO BLUE!!! GOOOOOO NEVADA!!!!!!!

[indyfrisco]

All ya need to know about BSU and their scheduling...

Strength of Schedules:

Year
Record
Strength of Schedule

2006
12-0
100

2005
9-4
92

2004
11-1
99

2003
13-1
98

2002
12-1
82

2001
8-4
70

2000
10-2
110

1999
10-3
112

Guess what fucking team that is? That's right, Boise St. They have done NOTHING to boost their SOS over the years. Rolling shit teams hoping to slide in finally paid off.

[Dinsdale]

Rolling shit teams hoping to slide in finally paid off.

Yup, that's a 5-star RACK!

It seems most of(or all of) the casual "fans" seem to ignore this.

If you play a bunch of vocational schools that feature 190 pound defensive linemen, it's odd how good a shape your team is in to tangle with the Big Boys come Bowl Season.


Funny how that works, ain't it?


And when BSU's attempts to schedule games are something akin to embezzlement, it's no wonder they can't get better games. Although they've backed off their ransom demands a little bit, they need to fire their AD.


Hopefully this starnge fascination people have (just for this week) with BSU won't inspire manly mid-major teams like Fresno State to start scheduling creampuffs, since the precedent has been set that you can play Jackson Hole Community College, and use that to vault into a BCS Bowl.

[Atomic Punk]

Unfortunately, Fresno State keeps losing assistant coaches to the big boys and the recruits aren't getting any better. They keep scheduling H&H's where they have to travel the first year, but the teams that aren't PAC-10 in origin buy out the remaining contract to get a better team at home.

That leaves Fresno playing a few shit schools or getting a bye or two. However, like you've said, that's because the big boys can do that... and it's a business. Many ex FS coaches are on those PAC-10 staffs and they remember where they came from.

It's all good though. I'd rather see FS lose to Tennessee than Sacramento State.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

But seriously...listen to him...he knows how CFB scheduling works...just ask him.

As an FYI to BitchSmacked -- college basketball works in the same manner. UCONN played their 1st 12 games at home this season. That's right. 12... IN... A... ROW. TWELVE. Why? Because they're fucking UCONN... that's why. The scheduling conversations with other AD's goes a little like this:

"You want to play us? Fine. We'd love to kick your ass before 16,000 fans at the Civic Center. Home and home? Sure. Home for us in 2007 and home for us in 2008. We're UCONN, motherfucker."

[BSmack]

Let's not forget the Big East. Or the Big 12.

I'd still think they'd have a hard time being able to run through an entire Big East, or Big 12 schedule.

I suspect anybody would have a hard time. Including every single team in each of those conferences this year. It takes a little luck and a lot of skill to go unbeaten. No matter what conference you play in. But given their performance this year, I'd say that BSU is easily as worthy as Louisville, Rutgers or West Virginia. And those teams were on a track to the BCS title game had any of them remained unbeaten.

I find it a bit hard to believe that Boise had a tougher schedule than Alabama. Alabama played Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, Florida and Tennessee. Does Boise even have more than 1 team on their schedule who is ranked higher than those 5?

I was just going by the link TWIS provided. Of course it was provided by the NCAA. So it might be official and all. But it doesn't appear to be a weighted ranking like the Sagrin rankings are.

[indyfrisco]

ucant,

Get ready for the Felix reply. I used a basketball example too citing how Gonzaga was a team who had to earn H&H's. After a few years of playing on the road and making runs in the tourney, they now get quality H&H's.

Of course, I got the standard "way to compare apples and sledgehammers" retort...

[Dinsdale]

They keep scheduling H&H's where they have to travel the first year, but the teams that aren't PAC-10 in origin buy out the remaining contract to get a better team at home.

Exactly, spot-on. But Fresno has cred with the PAC10, since they didn't demand H&Hs with everyone. They truly stuck to the "anyone, anytime, anywhere" motto. And after bringing some big-dog fight to the party, they earned the respect of the PAC10 schools, and more importantly, the PAC10 fans. Now, they get all kinds of H&Hs with the PAC, and as a diehard PAC homer, I appreciate what they bring to the table, and I'm glad Oregon goes H&H with them soon (next season again???...something like that). If they ever expand the PAC(probably not in this lifetime), odds are that FSU will be one of the teams, with possibly Utah, Hawaii, or Nevada being the other...while BSU is left to cry in their beer.


Fresno State EARNED their cred...and gets the respect they deserve for doing so. BSU has done no such thing.

[Dinsdale]

Home for us in 2007 and home for us in 2008. We're UCONN, motherfucker."

So...you're saying that UConn, being a bigtime program, helps to build a smaller name school's rep and get them better games in the future just by letting them come to their building, and has no financial obligation to also help them build their new arena and student center, beyond helping their long-term prospects?

Is that what you're saying?

Wow, who woulda thunk it?

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

ucant

Get ready for the Felix reply. I used a basketball example too citing how Gonzaga was a team who had to earn H&H's. After a few years of playing on the road and making runs in the tourney, they now get quality H&H's.

Of course, I got the standard "way to compare apples and sledgehammers" retort...

Every team except for the lucky schools like Kentucky and North Carolina certainly have to earn it. Twenty years ago, UConn's goal every year was to NOT PLAY the 8/9 game every March at The Garden. That's right. Finishing seventh out of nine was deemed a success. They played their home games before 1,200 empty seat at The Field House. They were an also-ran in a brand new conference. I don't feel sorry for any program who has to play most of their games on the road only to get blown out... no matter what the sport. It takes just one person with a vision and a lot of determination to make an impossible dream a reality. I am getting a little off topic here, I know. Point being, you have to earn those home games.

[MuchoBulls]

I was just going by the link TWIS provided. Of course it was provided by the NCAA. So it might be official and all. But it doesn't appear to be a weighted ranking like the Sagrin rankings are.

Maybe that factors in ones record, which would certainly help Boise. It would be pretty difficult to find a BCS program who would have played a weaker overall schedule than Boise State played.

[BSmack]

But seriously...listen to him...he knows how CFB scheduling works...just ask him.

As an FYI to BitchSmacked -- college basketball works in the same manner. UCONN played their 1st 12 games at home this season. That's right. 12... IN... A... ROW. TWELVE. Why? Because they're fucking UCONN... that's why. The scheduling conversations with other AD's goes a little like this:

"You want to play us? Fine. We'd love to kick your ass before 16,000 fans at the Civic Center. Home and home? Sure. Home for us in 2007 and home for us in 2008. We're UCONN, motherfucker."

I'm a Syracuse fan. Calhoun is reading from Jim Boeheim's old December Cupcake script. The funny thing is that somewhere along the way the higherups at SU started to realize that it was better for both recruiting and Big East play preparation to mix in some higher level tournaments (like the Coaches vs Cancer or the Preseason NIT) and some home and home series against certain NY state opponents where the "home" game for the other school would be played at a large capacity arena near (but not on) the other school's campus.

[Goober McTuber]

But given their performance this year, I'd say that BSU is easily as worthy as Louisville, Rutgers or West Virginia. And those teams were on a track to the BCS title game had any of them remained unbeaten.

If BSU had played even one team as good as Louisville, WVU or Rutgers prior to the bowl season, you might have a point. Each of those teams played the other two, and had one of them gone undefeated, they would have belonged in the title game. BSU had no business being in the title game.

[Atomic Punk]

They keep scheduling H&H's where they have to travel the first year, but the teams that aren't PAC-10 in origin buy out the remaining contract to get a better team at home.

Exactly, spot-on. But Fresno has cred with the PAC10, since they didn't demand H&Hs with everyone. They truly stuck to the "anyone, anytime, anywhere" motto. And after bringing some big-dog fight to the party, they earned the respect of the PAC10 schools, and more importantly, the PAC10 fans. Now, they get all kinds of H&Hs with the PAC, and as a diehard PAC homer, I appreciate what they bring to the table, and I'm glad Oregon goes H&H with them soon (next season again???...something like that). If they ever expand the PAC(probably not in this lifetime), odds are that FSU will be one of the teams, with possibly Utah, Hawaii, or Nevada being the other...while BSU is left to cry in their beer.


Fresno State EARNED their cred...and gets the respect they deserve for doing so. BSU has done no such thing.

I never liked BSU due to the former coach Dan Hawkins. How is that Colorado team looking? I do like BSU's Peterson and he is the offensive mind behind Hawkins success anyway. After David Carr and Bernard Berrian graduated, you could see how the talent level dropped. FS plays the big boys OOC at the beginning of the season and they are beat up for the WAC. That's really not an excuse, but every year they lose a few studs due to injury.

A very rare exception was when FS had Trent Dilfer and Lorenzo Neal and 7 other NFL draft picks beat Rob Johnson and Willie McGinnest's USC team. SC didn't want to be there and Fresno physically dominated that game. Lorenzo Neal punished McGinnest and it was embarrassing. That knob Rob Johnson was talking shit, yet his dad was a former Fresno State QB. What a punk bitch he is. Lary Smith and also Cal's head coach lost their jobs due to losing to those puds from Fresno.

That being said, BSU isn't physical enough to take that kind of OOC schedule and have their play makers available when bowl season arrives. I was looking at the OU players and they were so much more physical, but just weren't prepared for BSU's game plan. My original statement was that BSU would not be undefeated if they played in a big time conference. I think you mocked me for that unless I read it wrong. You know, having wandering eyes will do that to a fella.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

I'm a Syracuse fan. Calhoun is reading from Jim Boeheim's old December Cupcake script.

Or... Calhoun knew he would lose 4 players in the 1st round of last year's NBA Draft and didn't want to burden his young team with tough games early in the year. Not to mention, the Big East schedule is tough enough. Not to mention OOC games later on against Indiana, Georgia Tech, and LSU. He's starting 2 freshmen, a red-shirt sophomore, and two reserves from last year. What the fuck did you expect... a December game at Cameron? I think dude knows what he's doing. "Two national titles and HOF induction" says what? That's right, it says "go fuck yourself." Two years from now when we're defending our 3rd National Title, we'll play some December games in Maui. Cool?

[Felix]

Get ready for the Felix reply. I used a basketball example too citing how Gonzaga was a team who had to earn H&H's. After a few years of playing on the road and making runs in the tourney, they now get quality H&H's.

Of course, I got the standard "way to compare apples and sledgehammers" retort...

okay bud here's the reason for the apples and sledgehammers comment.....

BSU typically schedules 12 games/season....they are obligated to play 8 games within the confines of the WAC.....that leaves them 4 spots open for "other teams"....

Gonzaga's basketball team on the other hand scheduled 31 games this year...they are obligated to play everyone in their conference twice, which accounts for 14 of their games leaving them room to schedule 17 games for "other teams"....

you simply can't compare basketball to football.....

now if you want to talk Fresno State, that's a legimate comparison....

My original statement was that BSU would not be undefeated if they played in a big time conference.

no argument from me...

they'd be lucky to be a .500 team in the PAC 10.....

[Dinsdale]

I think you mocked me for that unless I read it wrong. You know, having wandering eyes will do that to a fella.

Must be your bad eye. I agree with what you're saying, completely. Mid majors aren't rolling out 300+ pound superjocks at every line position, the Big Boys are. Their center weighs in at 285(allegedly). Are you freaking kidding me? Bring that shit to the PAC and see what happens -- time to shed them redshirts, boys, we need you NOW. Hell, BSU lists mutiple DE's at under 230.

W...T...F...


Anyone who thinks that team stood any chance at making it through a real OOC schedule without dipping into the 4th string, much less if they played a real conference schedule, is fucking nuts.

Hence my problem with BSU. They eseentially cheated and whined their way into a BCS bowl.

If you wanna run with the big dogs, don't piss like a puppy.


BSU's AD: Hello, Bowling Green? We're thinking about hitting you up for a game, since every big-ticket team laughed at us, but before we proceed, I need to ask a question -- are there any linemen over 220 pounds on your roster? Yes? Oh, sorry to have wasted your time. *Click*

[BSmack]

But given their performance this year, I'd say that BSU is easily as worthy as Louisville, Rutgers or West Virginia. And those teams were on a track to the BCS title game had any of them remained unbeaten.

If BSU had played even one team as good as Louisville, WVU or Rutgers prior to the bowl season, you might have a point. Each of those teams played the other two, and had one of them gone undefeated, they would have belonged in the title game. BSU had no business being in the title game.

I agree that BSU didn't belong the the title game before the Fiesta Bowl. They should have been able to play their way in through a playoff. Now we're left with the possibility of the only undefeated team in D1 winning their BCS Bowl Game and being shut out of the MNC. Which is why I'm now rooting for Florida for the only time in my life.

[Dinsdale]

They should have been able to play their way in through a playoff.

Why, so they can cheat their way through that, too?

At least in a playoff, they would be exposed for the powderpuffs they are, since I doubt after the physical beating the larger OU team put on them, they'd be in any shape to take the field against another real team.


Letting a team in that played against undersized opponents all year, and having them play against SEC teams that have taken an absolute pounding since the beginning of September who have lost half their freaking senior starters, would be absolute bullshit.

[indyfrisco]

Felix,

My point was that no quality team would ever even consider going to play @ Gonzaga or @ a neutral site near the Zags like Seattle prior to the numerous runs they made in the tourney proving they can beat quality opponents. That being said, quality opponents are agreeing to H&H with the Zags as they would be a big pre-conference draw and are also considered a quality team.

BSU could garner the same mutual respect if they did the same. They have to have a payday and with 4 games now, they should always plan on playing 1 OOC quality opponent on the road w/o expecting a return game. Win a couple of those and they may get more respect.

[Felix]

BSU could garner the same mutual respect if they did the same. They have to have a payday and with 4 games now, they should always plan on playing 1 OOC quality opponent on the road w/o expecting a return game. Win a couple of those and they may get more respect.

I think you'll see them try to schedule more quality opponents, but the other factor to consider is: how many quality teams want to schedule a team like BSU where there's not much upside for winning, but tremendous downside for losing.....

that's the other edge of the sword.....

[indyfrisco]

And to further my point...A&M has had a bad basketball team for some time. Two years ago, we went like 11-0 outside the conference against creampuffs. We did go 8-8 in conference (considering we were 0-16 the year before that is good) but we did not deserve a bid to the NCAA. Instead we went to the NIT and had a decent run.

Last year, A&M plays a little tougher OOC schedule and get the invite where they lost in the secodn round by 1 on a 3 pointer with 1 second remaining from 8 foot beyond the arc.

This year, A&M went to Nawlins to play LSU (neutral site but home game for LSU) and to Anaheim to play UCLA (same thing). We are not expecting return trips from these teams. We're BUILDING up cred and we may get it someday (if Gillispie doesn't leave).

Gotta earn respect. We're trying to now. BSU has never shown an attempt to. It is not apples to sledgehammers. It is the way it works in college athletics..not just football.

[Goober McTuber]

But given their performance this year, I'd say that BSU is easily as worthy as Louisville, Rutgers or West Virginia. And those teams were on a track to the BCS title game had any of them remained unbeaten.

If BSU had played even one team as good as Louisville, WVU or Rutgers prior to the bowl season, you might have a point. Each of those teams played the other two, and had one of them gone undefeated, they would have belonged in the title game. BSU had no business being in the title game.

I agree that BSU didn't belong the the title game before the Fiesta Bowl. They should have been able to play their way in through a playoff. Now we're left with the possibility of the only undefeated team in D1 winning their BCS Bowl Game and being shut out of the MNC. Which is why I'm now rooting for Florida for the only time in my life.

So now you want to change the discussion to the need for a playoff? Fine. BSU still doesn’t belong in the title game. They belong in the quarterfinals. Against USC.

[Atomic Punk]

I think you mocked me for that unless I read it wrong. You know, having wandering eyes will do that to a fella.

Must be your bad eye. I agree with what you're saying, completely. Mid majors aren't rolling out 300+ pound superjocks at every line position, the Big Boys are. Their center weighs in at 285(allegedly). Are you freaking kidding me? Bring that shit to the PAC and see what happens -- time to shed them redshirts, boys, we need you NOW. Hell, BSU lists mutiple DE's at under 230.

And to your point about Fresno State being respectful to PAC-10 schools, I got to hand it to Oregon's Mike Bellotti for his graciousness. He took Jeff Tedford then when Tedford left for Cal, Mike took the next FSU OC. Mike always schedules H&H's with Fresno as does Oregon State. The only PAC-10 team FS hasn't played is Arizona State. With Jim Sweeney's former assistant Dennis Erickson taking the program over, I'm betting ASU and FS will play sometime down the road. The PAC-10 has been pretty good to Fresno. They like the central locale of the new basketball center, softball field, and baseball stadium. The PAC-10 loves the facilities but you can't bring in a 5th California school into that conference. The way the PAC-10 is now is good enough. Adding the two Arizona schools to the PAC 8 completed the western deal.

Fresno knows it's place and Pat Hill loves to take on anybody which makes watching the games fun.

[Atomic Punk]

BSU could garner the same mutual respect if they did the same. They have to have a payday and with 4 games now, they should always plan on playing 1 OOC quality opponent on the road w/o expecting a return game. Win a couple of those and they may get more respect.

I think you'll see them try to schedule more quality opponents, but the other factor to consider is: how many quality teams want to schedule a team like BSU where there's not much upside for winning, but tremendous downside for losing.....

that's the other edge of the sword.....

You have to go on the road and do what Fresno State does. Until then, you can't complain.

[indyfrisco]

I know A&M has always tried to schedule 1 quality OOC opponent a year. Usually, we do a H&H with them. In recent years, it has been Notre Dame, Utah, Virginia Tech and Pitt...all H&Hs. Hell, we even did a H&H with Wyoming.

Many programs follow this model. There is little upside to scheduling 3-4 quality OOC games. Yeah, if you win them all, great. You will probably be beat up too going into conference play.

Point is, you gotta have the quality OOC win to put yourself on the map. BSU did that in the Fiesta. However, if their only staple wins in the future come in bowl games, they will still never get the respect they demand.

[Felix]

Gotta earn respect. We're trying to now. BSU has never shown an attempt to. It is not apples to sledgehammers. It is the way it works in college athletics..not just football.

again, they have a total of 4 open spots during the course of a season.....

how many open spots does A&M basketball have on their schedule during the course of the season.....

[indyfrisco]

again, they have a total of 4 open spots during the course of a season.....

how many open spots does A&M basketball have on their schedule during the course of the season.....

They have 33% of their season open. Basketball is usually 50%. I've said time and again, you don't need to schedule 4 quality OOC games...start with just 1. It may get your SOS into the double digits.

[BSmack]

I'm a Syracuse fan. Calhoun is reading from Jim Boeheim's old December Cupcake script.

Or... Calhoun knew he would lose 4 players in the 1st round of last year's NBA Draft and didn't want to burden his young team with tough games early in the year. Not to mention, the Big East schedule is tough enough. Not to mention OOC games later on against Indiana, Georgia Tech, and LSU. He's starting 2 freshmen, a red-shirt sophomore, and two reserves from last year. What the fuck did you expect... a December game at Cameron? I think dude knows what he's doing. "Two national titles and HOF induction" says what? That's right, it says "go fuck yourself." Two years from now when we're defending our 3rd National Title, we'll play some December games in Maui. Cool?

Jim Boeheim is in the HOF as well. He found out that a few tough games in December followed by a few cupcakes allows his team to stay on a more even keel. But hey, plenty of coaches have scheduled the way Calhoun did this year. Come tournament time, I suspect both SU and UConn will both be well prepared.

[Felix]

They have 33% of their season open. Basketball is usually 50%. I've said time and again, you don't need to schedule 4 quality OOC games...start with just 1. It may get your SOS into the double digits.

next year they've scheduled Washington and Oregon......

they are trying.......

[Dinsdale]

a neutral site near the Zags like Seattle

Just an FYI -- Seattle is like 300 miles from Spokane. Doesn't meet too many people's definiton of "near," I'm sure.

[420]

I'm going to end this Boise State fiasco once and for all!

Feel free to follow along with the punch lines.

The night before the Fiesta Bowl... qb Thompson says to AD, while in the hotel room. Pass me my drink(a 1.75 liter of Vodka), hell we got stuck playing Boise State, so it's all good.

Boise State beats this inspired Oklahoma team by 1 point in OT.

Let's take a look at the Big 12 for a second.

There are 4 teams in the conference that are basically equal.

1. OU

2. Texas

3. Texas A&M

4. Nebraska

Now take a look at what Cal did to Texas A&M...

If Cal played Boise State, they would have pulled the 1st team after the 1st quarter, because that's how Tedford rolls.

At halftime... Tedford would have sent the 1st and 2nd teams back to the hotel rooms, so they could watch the 2nd half beat down by the 3rd and 4th teams on TV.

If you look at SOS in College Football... 1-10. You could basically just call it the Pac 10.

Why Boise State is even brought up in conversation for the MNC is beyond me.

[Dinsdale]

Hell, we even did a H&H with Wyoming.

No you didn't.

Sin,
BSmack

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

I'm a Syracuse fan. Calhoun is reading from Jim Boeheim's old December Cupcake script.

Or... Calhoun knew he would lose 4 players in the 1st round of last year's NBA Draft and didn't want to burden his young team with tough games early in the year. Not to mention, the Big East schedule is tough enough. Not to mention OOC games later on against Indiana, Georgia Tech, and LSU. He's starting 2 freshmen, a red-shirt sophomore, and two reserves from last year. What the fuck did you expect... a December game at Cameron? I think dude knows what he's doing. "Two national titles and HOF induction" says what? That's right, it says "go fuck yourself." Two years from now when we're defending our 3rd National Title, we'll play some December games in Maui. Cool?

Jim Boeheim is in the HOF as well. He found out that a few tough games in December followed by a few cupcakes allows his team to stay on a more even keel. But hey, plenty of coaches have scheduled the way Calhoun did this year. Come tournament time, I suspect both SU and UConn will both be well prepared.

Dude... can you fucking read? This isn't an every year thing. How many of Blow-Heims teams had 5 starters with little or no college experience?

[Felix]

Now take a look at what Cal did to Texas A&M...

If Cal played Boise State, they would have pulled the 1st team after the 1st quarter, because that's how Tedford rolls.

At halftime... Tedford would have sent the 1st and 2nd teams back to the hotel rooms, so they could watch the 2nd half beat down by the 3rd and 4th teams on TV.

that's it-the post that's convinced me.....

Cal should be the national Champions......