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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:52 pm
by Cuda
Rack Fu wrote: You're making Dinsdale look like a genius in this thread.
So what?

You're the one making him look brutal.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:54 pm
by PrimeX
Heat, humidity, sun, mosquitos...come back to the PrimeX, please.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:08 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Rack Fu wrote:Where exactly did I veer wildly to avoid grass clippings? I've never even driven my vehicle down to that end of the street as it's not on my way out of the subdivision. Once again, it was about a lazy ass mowing his lawn and not picking up his fucking yard waste.
Bwahaha! I'm gonna have to RACK any thread that winds up with Fu defending himself against the grass clippings. Never gets old.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:13 pm
by YD
can somebody bump my epic tire chains thread from last year?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:27 pm
by Mister Bushice
timmay wrote:can somebody bump my epic
lost me right about there.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:45 pm
by Rack Fu
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Rack Fu wrote:Where exactly did I veer wildly to avoid grass clippings? I've never even driven my vehicle down to that end of the street as it's not on my way out of the subdivision. Once again, it was about a lazy ass mowing his lawn and not picking up his fucking yard waste.
Bwahaha! I'm gonna have to RACK any thread that winds up with Fu defending himself against the grass clippings. Never gets old.
It's folklore around here so I have to embrace it. :)

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:09 am
by Ken
Dinsdale wrote:Tripling-the-coefficient-of-friction-has-no-bottom-line-on-a-physics-equation.
Sure it does, but your equation would pretty well suck... especially if you're only DOUBLING the coefficient of friction.
Besides, timmay's right... there is an advantage to 4wd when starting from a stop. But doubling an already very small coefficient of friction is well... still small.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:14 am
by War Wagon
Driving on ice is no problem with or without 4WD. It's the stopping part that's a stone cold bitch.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:16 am
by Dinsdale
In a non-electronic-traction-controlled 4WD vehicle, you're increasing the number of driven wheels by 50%, from 2 to 3, unless the vehicle has any appreciable miles on it, in which case, if it was equipped with a limited-slip rear-end, it doesn't work properly anymore.

Even if equipped with a locker rear-end, no one ever made a truck/4WD with anything besides an open front differential, since steering goes to shit with both front wheels engaged.

So, in the pre-electronic control age, no vehicle ever had more than 3 wheels driven at a time. Electronic systems still don't engage both front wheels under most circumstaces, since there's another name for a vehicle in questinable traction with 2 front wheels driven...they call it "in the ditch."


Air-lockers offer a nice alternative, for a price. You can engage both front wheels if severe circumstances dictate maximum traction with zero steering...but no one has ever built a factory vehicle with an air-locker, to the best of my knowledge...that's bigtime aftermarket, heavy mods.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:22 am
by Derron
Yo... San Antonio faggots...what's up with the weather there??

Headed in on Wednesday..

I fucking hate ice ...

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:52 am
by Harvdog
Dinsdale wrote:In a non-electronic-traction-controlled 4WD vehicle, you're increasing the number of driven wheels by 50%, from 2 to 3, unless the vehicle has any appreciable miles on it, in which case, if it was equipped with a limited-slip rear-end, it doesn't work properly anymore.

Even if equipped with a locker rear-end, no one ever made a truck/4WD with anything besides an open front differential, since steering goes to shit with both front wheels engaged.

So, in the pre-electronic control age, no vehicle ever had more than 3 wheels driven at a time. Electronic systems still don't engage both front wheels under most circumstaces, since there's another name for a vehicle in questinable traction with 2 front wheels driven...they call it "in the ditch."


Air-lockers offer a nice alternative, for a price. You can engage both front wheels if severe circumstances dictate maximum traction with zero steering...but no one has ever built a factory vehicle with an air-locker, to the best of my knowledge...that's bigtime aftermarket, heavy mods.
Nice to know that your job at Pep Boys is helpful to the masses.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:01 am
by Dinsdale
Ooooh...another "follow Dinsdale around" guy.

Nice group you've lumped yourself in with, Tarddog. You and Kevnic will be very happy together, I'm sure.

Frankly, I have no interest in swatting flies anymore. If you want to dance, bring something better than "you work at Pep Boys" (a not-so clever variant of "you work at McDonalds," a time-honored classic among the smack-challenged), or "I know you are, but what am I"(made famous by a whole host of fucking idiots).

Until then, you just made the "ignore list." It's not your turn to have me make you famous here. Stop trying.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:04 am
by Harvdog
Dinsdale wrote:Ooooh...another "follow Dinsdale around" guy.

Nice group you've lumped yourself in with, Tarddog. You and Kevnic will be very happy together, I'm sure.

Frankly, I have no interest in swatting flies anymore. If you want to dance, bring something better than "you work at Pep Boys" (a not-so clever variant of "you work at McDonalds," a time-honored classic among the smack-challenged), or "I know you are, but what am I"(made famous by a whole host of fucking idiots).

Until then, you just made the "ignore list." It's not your turn to have me make you famous here. Stop trying.
You are a legend in your own mind. I guess you needed 11K+ posts to prove you are worthy of your cult like ego.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:16 am
by Dinsdale
To recap --

"I know you are, but what am I" smack...CHECK

"You work at McDonald's" smack...CHECK

And now, we're treated to post total smack...way to hit the tardfecta, bud.


Let's just examine post-total smack, shall we?

Hmmm...."you post on the same messageboard as me, but you post more, which makes you a loser."


Uhm....Tarddog...you might want to take a look at 420's post total before you continue down your current path of fucking stupidity.

Ingse Bodil? Yup...less of a loser than Harvard, by Harv's logic.

Let's just cut to the chase...at what point do you think the third-grade shit is going to go well for you?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:19 am
by Harvdog
Well Dicksmell, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. You pull the smack on me that you are complaining me running on you? Mtool logic. Nice. Must be a West Coast thing.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:24 am
by War Wagon
Hey Harv, do they even have furnaces in Houston?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:31 am
by Harvdog
War Wagon wrote:Hey Harv, do they even have furnaces in Houston?
Not exactly. We have heat but that is it. I never turn on the heat. We get maybe 2-4 days a year that are really cold. Tomorrow will be one. I am actually headed to Dallas for a convention where it is even colder. Supposed to snow on Wednesday. Hopefully the pipes don't burst.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:43 am
by War Wagon
Not exactly? What's that mean? Do you open up your oven door and use hair dryers to stay warm?

War portable kerosene heaters.

As for your pipes bursting, that's doubtful with lows in the twenties, but if you're really concerned about that, leave your faucets open to a slow trickle.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:45 am
by Harvdog
War Wagon wrote:Not exactly? What's that mean? Do you open up your oven door and use hair dryers to stay warm?

War portable kerosene heaters.

As for your pipes bursting, that's doubtful with lows in the twenties, but if you're really concerned about that, leave your faucets open to a slow trickle.
Do I have a furnace? Yes. Do I use it, no. My wife hates the smell of heat.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:52 am
by War Wagon
Harvdog wrote: My wife hates the smell of heat.
Ahh, yes. A gas furnace that's not used very often will put off an annoying odor for a while. But it beats the hell out of being cold. My wife hates being cold.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:45 am
by Cuda
Dinsdale wrote:In a non-electronic-traction-controlled 4WD vehicle, etc, etc, etc...
Save your breath, Dins, Fu is a FBI Agent, which means there's nothing he's not an expert on. An old, boyhood friend's mother used to say about experts: "X is an unknown factor, and a spurt is a drip under pressure" Fits Rack Fu to a tee, eh?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:59 am
by Ken
Harvdog wrote:My wife hates the smell of heat.
Dear, God. Please tell me I just didn't read that.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:04 am
by Dinsdale
Ken wrote:
Harvdog wrote:My wife hates the smell of heat.
Dear, God. Please tell me I just didn't read that.
Oh, you did.

He's a bright one, ain't he?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:09 am
by Rack Fu
Cuda wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:In a non-electronic-traction-controlled 4WD vehicle, etc, etc, etc...
Save your breath, Dins, Fu is a FBI Agent, which means there's nothing he's not an expert on. An old, boyhood friend's mother used to say about experts: "X is an unknown factor, and a spurt is a drip under pressure" Fits Rack Fu to a tee, eh?
I (and everyone else) laughs at the irony of directing this post to Dinsdale of all people.

For the record... he wasn't replying to me, Master of Reading Comprehension.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:13 am
by Dinsdale
Rack Fu wrote:For the record... he wasn't replying to me, Master of Reading Comprehension.
Nope...that was for Ken's benefit.

Your ignorance has already been established in this thread, Master of Physics and Grass Clippings.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:20 am
by 420
War Wagon wrote:
Harvdog wrote: My wife hates the smell of heat.
Ahh, yes. A gas furnace that's not used very often will put off an annoying odor for a while. But it beats the hell out of being cold. My wife hates being cold.
I had a house in Houston for 13 years. It had a brick fireplace, pegged hardwood floors, and marble floors in the bathrooms, kitchen and dining room(bad idea) it's hard as hell to keep clean. It's nice to have some log's... just in case.

Of course, I was there in the early 90's when a cold front came in, it was 4 degrees with a -25 wind chill. Experience is a great teacher.

Know the shit that was coming... is what got my ass out of Houston the same day as I posted this thread. Loaded up the 10,000 pound monster when it was 50 degrees and drizzling, knowing that it was going to get a hell of a lot uglier in about 12 hours when the Ice Storm was going to hit.

Drove my ass as fast as could through San Antonio and up and over the Hill Country and to Junction, TX., where I made it late at night.

I woke up in the morning to my vehicles looking like they were stuck in an ice cube, and the wind chill at -1 zero. Nothing like trying to open the doors to your vehicle when they're frozen shut inside an ice cube.

The DPS had warnings all over the TV, asking people not to drive for a couple of days due to the ice.

Fuck that! I wasn't going to get my ass stuck in that shit hole (Junction,TX.) for three more days, more pending ice and snow forcasted for the next 3 days on I-20.

The first 200 miles on I-20 were to say the least... very interesting and a slow go. Nice wind chill of about 5 degrees when you went out to pump gas only to find out that the pumps were frozen solid with ice.

Anyway... the sun came out and made it a decent ride all the way to Las Cruses, NM., where I'm making this post now. Unfortunately, I think the cold is chasing my ass, since it's forcasted to be the coldest day of the year here tomorrow with snow.

The moral of the story is... if you live in the US and you're not living in Florida, you may need a fucking fire place!

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:22 am
by RadioFan
The chimer notwithstanding, this thread just went from a regular-season MLS game to an NFL playoff. RACK it.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:23 am
by Smackie Chan
420 wrote:the wind chill at -1 zero.
Is that your way of saying ten below?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:29 am
by 420
Smackie Chan wrote:
420 wrote:the wind chill at -1 zero.
Is that your way of saying ten below?
So you found a typo? Good job Jerry.

This is why it's such a pleasure when you join in a thread... starting at the ankles.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:34 am
by Smackie Chan
420 wrote:
Smackie Chan wrote:
420 wrote:the wind chill at -1 zero.
Is that your way of saying ten below?
So you found a typo? Good job Jerry.

This is why it's such a pleasure when you join in a thread... starting at the ankles.
I'd love to try starting at your head, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna venture that far up your ass.

So, how's life at the far left end of the bell curve?

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:42 am
by 420
Smackie Chan wrote:
420 wrote:
Smackie Chan wrote: Is that your way of saying ten below?
So you found a typo? Good job Jerry.

This is why it's such a pleasure when you join in a thread... starting at the ankles.
I'd love to try starting at your head, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna venture that far up your ass.
Hmmm, you'd like to give me head? But, you want to go through my ass to get to it?

Sounds like you just wanna be in my ass grandpa.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:53 am
by Smackie Chan
Being a native and long-time Californian who now lives on the East Coast, I find myself in the position of having to defend my home state against the many verbal slings and arrows aimed at it, and it's usually not too difficult. I say usually, because all one has to say is "m2," and at that point all I can do is extend my right hand, say "good game," and walk away in defeat with as much dignity as possible. It's checkmate, there's no possible effective comeback, and that tactic can't be defended. Props to you for single-handedly sullying the nation's most populous state.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:31 am
by PSUFAN
My wife hates the smell of heat.
My wife hates the smell of heat too...especially when she's fed me Baked Beans. Ass mingling with the odor of couch filling...that gets me no Racks, no.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:16 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:It's a demolition derby on every road.

Dude, with all due respect...

Shut the fuck up.

Try filling your state with buhzillions of cali transplants, introduce some wet snow and ice, and see if you don't count your blessings.


Don't believe me?

http://www.king5.com/sharedcontent/Vide ... omevid.wmv

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:46 pm
by Y2K
Actually it's been good practice for drylanders lately as there's always a solid portion of the neighborhood morons who are still running their irrigation during Freeze warnings. It makes turning into side streets some serious fun and games. I of course enjoy entering my street sideways just because it's fun but watching the little ole lady round the corner slide into a neighbors driveway was disturbing. Everyone near the end of the block are parking down the street. Fun Fun

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:05 pm
by Kansas City Kid
PSUFAN wrote:
My wife hates the smell of heat.
My wife hates the smell of heat too...especially when she's fed me Baked Beans. Ass mingling with the odor of couch filling...that gets me no Racks, no.
That is the kind that even when you breathe in through your mouth you can still smell it.

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:34 pm
by Jerkovich
Y2K wrote:Actually it's been good practice for drylanders lately as there's always a solid portion of the neighborhood morons who are still running their irrigation during Freeze warnings. It makes turning into side streets some serious fun and games. I of course enjoy entering my street sideways just because it's fun but watching the little ole lady round the corner slide into a neighbors driveway was disturbing. Everyone near the end of the block are parking down the street. Fun Fun

I took the hose out in the culdisac and sprayed in down for about 20 minutes. At 19 degrees is froze fast and made for some fun at six in the morning while I was drinking coffee. I feel bad for the neighbors' mailbox though. :oops:

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:16 am
by campinfool
420 wrote:
War Wagon wrote:
Harvdog wrote: My wife hates the smell of heat.
Ahh, yes. A gas furnace that's not used very often will put off an annoying odor for a while. But it beats the hell out of being cold. My wife hates being cold.
I had a house in Houston for 13 years. It had a brick fireplace, pegged hardwood floors, and marble floors in the bathrooms, kitchen and dining room(bad idea) it's hard as hell to keep clean. It's nice to have some log's... just in case.

Of course, I was there in the early 90's when a cold front came in, it was 4 degrees with a -25 wind chill. Experience is a great teacher.

Know the shit that was coming... is what got my ass out of Houston the same day as I posted this thread. Loaded up the 10,000 pound monster when it was 50 degrees and drizzling, knowing that it was going to get a hell of a lot uglier in about 12 hours when the Ice Storm was going to hit.

Drove my ass as fast as could through San Antonio and up and over the Hill Country and to Junction, TX., where I made it late at night.

I woke up in the morning to my vehicles looking like they were stuck in an ice cube, and the wind chill at -1 zero. Nothing like trying to open the doors to your vehicle when they're frozen shut inside an ice cube.

The DPS had warnings all over the TV, asking people not to drive for a couple of days due to the ice.

Fuck that! I wasn't going to get my ass stuck in that shit hole (Junction,TX.) for three more days, more pending ice and snow forcasted for the next 3 days on I-20.

The first 200 miles on I-20 were to say the least... very interesting and a slow go. Nice wind chill of about 5 degrees when you went out to pump gas only to find out that the pumps were frozen solid with ice.

Anyway... the sun came out and made it a decent ride all the way to Las Cruses, NM., where I'm making this post now. Unfortunately, I think the cold is chasing my ass, since it's forcasted to be the coldest day of the year here tomorrow with snow.

The moral of the story is... if you live in the US and you're not living in Florida, you may need a fucking fire place!
Dude I don't think has ever gotten to 4 degrees ever in Houston. Maybe west Texas gets that cold as a low, but Houston, give me a break. And I still want to know what vehicle you are hauling 10K pounds with.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:17 am
by campinfool
420 wrote:
War Wagon wrote:
Harvdog wrote: My wife hates the smell of heat.
Ahh, yes. A gas furnace that's not used very often will put off an annoying odor for a while. But it beats the hell out of being cold. My wife hates being cold.
I had a house in Houston for 13 years. It had a brick fireplace, pegged hardwood floors, and marble floors in the bathrooms, kitchen and dining room(bad idea) it's hard as hell to keep clean. It's nice to have some log's... just in case.

Of course, I was there in the early 90's when a cold front came in, it was 4 degrees with a -25 wind chill. Experience is a great teacher.

Know the shit that was coming... is what got my ass out of Houston the same day as I posted this thread. Loaded up the 10,000 pound monster when it was 50 degrees and drizzling, knowing that it was going to get a hell of a lot uglier in about 12 hours when the Ice Storm was going to hit.

Drove my ass as fast as could through San Antonio and up and over the Hill Country and to Junction, TX., where I made it late at night.

I woke up in the morning to my vehicles looking like they were stuck in an ice cube, and the wind chill at -1 zero. Nothing like trying to open the doors to your vehicle when they're frozen shut inside an ice cube.

The DPS had warnings all over the TV, asking people not to drive for a couple of days due to the ice.

Fuck that! I wasn't going to get my ass stuck in that shit hole (Junction,TX.) for three more days, more pending ice and snow forcasted for the next 3 days on I-20.

The first 200 miles on I-20 were to say the least... very interesting and a slow go. Nice wind chill of about 5 degrees when you went out to pump gas only to find out that the pumps were frozen solid with ice.

Anyway... the sun came out and made it a decent ride all the way to Las Cruses, NM., where I'm making this post now. Unfortunately, I think the cold is chasing my ass, since it's forcasted to be the coldest day of the year here tomorrow with snow.

The moral of the story is... if you live in the US and you're not living in Florida, you may need a fucking fire place!
Dude I don't think has ever gotten to 4 degrees ever in Houston. Maybe west Texas gets that cold as a low, but Houston, give me a break. And I still want to know what vehicle you are hauling 10K pounds with. I want to know make/ model, specs, and fuel economy.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:49 am
by PrimeX
I've lived in/around H-Town all my life, and it's never hit single digits that I remember. In the mid to late 80s we had a nice ice storm with temps in the teens, but that's the coldest conditions I can ever remember.

Edit:
The coldest temperature ever recorded in Houston was 5 °F (−15 °C) on January 23, 1940
Link.

This is why 30 degrees makes us look like cold weather tards. We don't understand how to drive on the ice, therefore schools/jobs close. We also don't put forth funding for cold weather machinery like sand truck things and laser beams that unfreeze the buildings that turn into robots.

Atleast we don't all die when temps reach triple digits though. Some of us seriously dig that shit.

I hate below 60 very much and thank you.