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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:47 pm
by LTS TRN 2
[quote="DinsdaleThey did, however, invade Jerusalem, about 1300 years ago, or thereabouts.
What part of "Arab Invasion" are you not understanding?
They chose to live by the sword, and take lands from other peoples. Now, payback is a bitch, ain't it? If the Arabs hadn't invaded Jrusalem in the FIRST PLACE, we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?
Just because Islamic Fundies want to you forget large chunks of history, it doesn't mean you have to, in the interest of scoring chicks at Evergreen State College.
Maybe Great Britian should give their land back to Italy?[/quote]
You've got to be kidding! The analogy you're really coming to is: How about if the French allow the Veneti or the Seduni or some other "kingdoms" of Gaul to reform? After all, like the Hebrews, they were relativelsmall but settled, conquered and dispersed by Rome. Gee, there's an idea that's patantly idiotic. So why is okay for "Israel" to be reformed--especially when unlike the Gaul tribal gruops, the Kingdom of Israel only officially existed for about seventy-five years. And after they were allowed to return to Jerusalem, the vast majority stayed scattered about the Mediterranean.
1300 years is a long time. But moreover is the vile nature of the Zionist occupation. They've been murderous, lying, scheming, stealing and manipulating--and that's just against America!
The largest concentration camp in the world is an utterly disgraceful legacy. And in the end that's all Israel can claim.
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:48 pm
by RadioFan
Dinsdale wrote:unless you're an idiot.
We have a winner.
Our resident nutjob at least stays in form with his ridiculous bullshit.
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:49 pm
by LTS TRN 2
[quote=]DinsdaleThey did, however, invade Jerusalem, about 1300 years ago, or thereabouts.
What part of "Arab Invasion" are you not understanding?
They chose to live by the sword, and take lands from other peoples. Now, payback is a bitch, ain't it? If the Arabs hadn't invaded Jrusalem in the FIRST PLACE, we wouldn't be having this discussion, now would we?
Just because Islamic Fundies want to you forget large chunks of history, it doesn't mean you have to, in the interest of scoring chicks at Evergreen State College.
Maybe Great Britian should give their land back to Italy?[/quote]
You've got to be kidding! The analogy you're really coming to is: How about if the French allow the Veneti or the Seduni or some other "kingdoms" of Gaul to reform? After all, like the Hebrews, they were relatively small but settled, conquered and dispersed by Rome. Gee, there's an idea that's patantly idiotic. So why is okay for "Israel" to be reformed--especially when unlike the Gaul tribal groups, the Kingdom of Israel only officially existed for about seventy-five years. And after they were allowed to return to Jerusalem, the vast majority stayed scattered about the Mediterranean.
1300 years is a long time. But moreover, the truly illegal and immoral aspect of the situation has been the vile nature of the Zionist occupation. They've been murderous, lying, scheming, stealing and manipulating--and that's just against America, their so-called Best Friend!
The largest concentration camp in the world is an utterly disgraceful legacy. And in the end that's all Israel can claim.
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:51 pm
by KC Scott
LTS TRN 2 wrote: Look, the Zionists INVADED. The Arabs did not invade Europe and Russia. And when the Arabs sought to repel and reject the invading race-state they were met with an overwhelming arsenal of American supplied weaponry.
Go read the history of WWII - Your so lost in this your sounding like Gunslinger
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:00 am
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:[quote="Moving Sale
As usual, you have absolutely no fucking idea of what you're talking about.
The Islamic Resistance Movement, or Hamas, founded in 1987 in Gaza, is a wing of the Brotherhood[7], formed out of Brotherhood-affiliated charities that had gained a strong foothold among the local population.
These had been permitted by Israeli occupation authorities to operate in the Palestinian Territories to counter the influence of the secular Palestinian resistance movements, but during the First Intifada (1987-93), Hamas and the Brotherhood militarized and transformed into one of the most violent Palestinian militant groups.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood
Of course we were specifically discussing the
origin of these groups before you decided to tard up the thread with your feeble attempt to contruct yet another strawman.
Does the sheer mendacity and SCHEMING of this entity ever peak?
Anyway, there's no argument that Israel has developed these groups beyond their wildest Calaphitic wet dream.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:02 am
by Moving Sale
mvscal wrote:Moving Sale wrote:
or are you going to try and spin their founding as not being in '87?
...founded in 1987
the
origin of these groups...
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:02 am
by 420
Frisco, you can bitch all you want... it doesn't really matter.
Your parents are never going to get their mud hut or their camel back.
I'll give you this... you made one hell of a valiant effort to get the camel back.
Frisco trying to win back the camel
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:44 am
by Moving Sale
Origin is the point at which something comes into existence. HAMAS came into existence in 1987. Therefore HAMAS had its origin after 1948.
Thanx for playing you stupid Racist fuck.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:43 am
by Moving Sale
Nice knot you talked your way into you stupid racist fuck.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:00 am
by KC Scott
Moving Sale wrote:Nice knot you talked your way into you stupid racist fuck.
TVO,
Your completely and utterly clueless as to the origins of these groups.
Go read up on the the wahabbis and muslim brotherhood, then you'll at least have some basis for your comments.
Why are you so anti Semetic anyway?
Is it a Hollywood lawyer thing?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:49 pm
by LTS TRN 2
KC, prior to the Zionist invasion, the Muslim Brotherhood held their meetings in the back of a felafel shop, and the Wahabbis were often mistaken for a travelling carnival.
Are you familiar with Cheney's new Middle East plan called "Clean Break"? Well, it'll make your hair stand on end. Needless to say it has virtually no ergard for the rights of any Arab groups or nations, or for Persians. Are you really in any sense awake? I don't think so, even though you seem to mildly desire somw awareness.
http://www.armyrtn.com/home/getfile.php?cat=vido&id=24
http://www.armyrtn.com/home/getfile.php?cat=vido&id=22
http://www.armyrtn.com/home/getfile.php?cat=vido&id=23
http://www.flurl.com/item/sp_y_p_u_228133
Suffice to say, Cheney and Chimp has blustered into the biggest fuckup in this nation's history--and the ONLY way they see to in any way escape a Nuremburg Noose is to just keep going, even if this means ANOTHER totally phony smear 'n fear run-up to attacking Iran. Israel is the only nation that wants this, regardless of Arab/persian emnity.
WAKE THE FUCK UP
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:53 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Suffice to say, Cheney and Chimp has blustered into the biggest fuckup in this nation's history--
Fuck. Is there any way out of it ? For our country ? LTS TRN, you seem to be convincing, are you willing to go and talk to the Mullahs and Imams and have them spare our countrymen ? Please say yes. Think of the children.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:58 pm
by 420
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:Needless to say it has virtually no ergard for the rights of any Arab groups or nations, or for Persians.
Sounds good.
What's the problem?
They're still alive.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:01 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Gee, Tom, guess what? The leadership of Iran--that is, the president speaking for the mullahs--has REGULARLY asked to have a good old fashioned sit down with the U.S. representives. They want to settle things down, including helping in Iraq. Instead, the U.S. continues to villify Iran, though the "evidence" for its claims is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.
Get it straight, Tom, WE are the aggressors. Iraq never attacked us, had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, etc. We are causing ALL the carnage.
Want to help America? Of course you do. Me too. The first step is to out, impeach, and HANG the vile criminals comprising the current (unelected) administration and start making some SERIOUS reparations to the people of Iraq. Then we need to bring down the disasterous apartheid state we've funded to the hilt in Palestine.
This will take ALL the wind out of any muslim fundamentalist recruiting drives.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:08 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Instead, the U.S. continues to villify Iran, though the "evidence" for its claims is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.
Apparently it's to be found in shrapnel that's inside American kids' bodies. But no, I'm supposed to believe YOU and the PROPAGANDA you regurgitate ?
Get this straight, you're going to have a LOOONG way to go before you convince me that some Imam is more concerned about the welfare of this nation than an American does.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:42 pm
by KC Scott
LTS TRN 2 wrote:KC, prior to the Zionist invasion, the Muslim Brotherhood held their meetings in the back of a felafel shop, and the Wahabbis were often mistaken for a travelling carnival.
Huh? The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928 by Hassan al-Banna to rid Egypt of foreign influnce.
The Wahabbi sect trace their roots all the way back to 1703 - the birth Muhammed ibn who launcehed a "puritan' cleansing campaign through Kurdistan and what's now Iraq. He was expelled from Basara in the 1730's and ended up in what is now Riyadh where he connected wth Muhammed ibn Saud - The great,great,great, great grandfather of King Saud, first ruler of the the new kindom of Saudi Arabia
[/quote]Are you familiar with Cheney's new Middle East plan called "Clean Break"?[/quote]
It wasn't even written by Cheney, it was written by Richard Perle
http://www.iasps.org/strat1.htm
And having read this condesend version, I see nothing hair raising or horiffic
What's up with posting links to terrorsit videos?
Doesn't make any point, and I don't speak Farsi.
Suffice to say, Cheney and Chimp has blustered into the biggest fuckup in this nation's history--and the ONLY way they see to in any way escape a Nuremburg Noose is to just keep going, even if this means ANOTHER totally phony smear 'n fear run-up to attacking Iran. Israel is the only nation that wants this, regardless of Arab/persian emnity.
Directionless rant that makes no real point.
In hinsight, we should have left Saddam in power as a buffer between Iran and Saudi, but since we don't have a time machine we need to deal with the clear and present danger that is Iran.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:50 pm
by Mister Bushice
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Gee, Tom, guess what? The leadership of Iran--that is, the president speaking for the mullahs--has REGULARLY asked to have a good old fashioned sit down with the U.S. representives. They want to settle things down, including helping in Iraq. Instead, the U.S. continues to villify Iran, though the "evidence" for its claims is NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.
This is a bullshit political ploy. Unilateral talks have NEVER worked. What happens is we sit down with them, work out details in their favor, they then proceed to undermine, ignore, disregard conditions of the agreement, we then impose sanctions because of that, and then WE are made to look like the bad guys EVERY TIME. North Korea out front should have told you.
Get it straight, Tom, WE are the aggressors. Iraq never attacked us, had nothing to do with Al Qaeda, etc. We are causing ALL the carnage.
You need to do a little wakey wakey. AL Q blew up a Shiite holy mosque and started this whole string of sectarian reprisal killings resulting in thousands of deaths UNRELATED to the US miltary.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:50 pm
by Dinsdale
Tom In VA wrote:
Apparently it's to be found in shrapnel that's inside American kids' bodies. But no, I'm supposed to believe YOU and the PROPAGANDA you regurgitate ?
Yeah, isn't propaganda a horrible thing?
http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/ ... frame=true
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:56 pm
by Tom In VA
Dinsdale wrote:Tom In VA wrote:
Apparently it's to be found in shrapnel that's inside American kids' bodies. But no, I'm supposed to believe YOU and the PROPAGANDA you regurgitate ?
Yeah, isn't propaganda a horrible thing?
But it's a fact.
Needless to say, I'll believe OURS before I believe THEIRS. That both sides in a war use propaganda is nothing new. I think Sun Tsu said something along the lines of "All warfare is based on deception".
Thanks for updating the news, I had not read that today. But ....
We know that the explosively formed projectiles are manufactured in Iran. What I would not say is that the Iranian government, per se [specifically], knows about this,” he said. “It is clear that Iranians are involved, and it’s clear that materials from Iran are involved, but I would not say by what I know that the Iranian government clearly knows or is complicit.
Don't think I am going to be breaking out the silverware for a crow dinner just yet.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:03 pm
by Dinsdale
No, it points out that the Bushies are up to something. According to them, there's a clear link beetween the "highest levels of government" and the explosives(although they refuse to mention what that evidence is). According to the man in charge, who has all the same access that the White House does, there is no evidence to directly support this.
If you read between the lines here, the Charman of the Joint Chiefs just told you that the administration is lying...:bigshocker:. Or at least grossly exaggerating "facts" to support an agenda that might not be in America's better interest(but Halliburton will make out like bandits).
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:07 pm
by Dinsdale
mvscal wrote:Are you really so naive to believe that Iranians and Iranian weapons are being used in Iraq without any specific knowledge of it by the Iranian regime?
Are you really so naive to believe that American weapons are being used against Israel
without any soecific knowledge of it by the American regime?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:11 pm
by Tom In VA
Dinsdale wrote:No, it points out that the Bushies are up to something. According to them, there's a clear link beetween the "highest levels of government" and the explosives(although they refuse to mention what that evidence is). According to the man in charge, who has all the same access that the White House does, there is no evidence to directly support this.
If you read between the lines here, the Charman of the Joint Chiefs just told you that the administration is lying...:bigshocker:. Or at least grossly exaggerating "facts" to support an agenda that might not be in America's better interest(but Halliburton will make out like bandits).
Of course, you're right, that's the ONLY way it can be interpreted. Thanks for shedding light on the matter.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:17 pm
by LTS TRN 2
I'm not sure about that last one, Dins, but you're on it concerning the Cheney cabal's attempt to smear Iran with NO EVIDENCE.
Babs as usual just plods along in lock-step with Perle, Rove, etc., insisting on crimes of Iran while ignoring the lies and vile machinations of the U.S. and its demented "think tank" known as the Project For The New American Century.
Fact is, the U.S. is desperately trying to foment a war--WHICH WE CAN'T FIGHT!! Perhaps you armchair hawks have overlooked the fact that NO protracted U.S. war (uintil this one) has been engaged without a draft. And that's not going to happen--and we're not ready to continue the current monstrous Quagmire, let alone attack Iran.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:23 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Fact is, the U.S. is desperately trying to foment a war--WHICH WE CAN'T FIGHT!! Perhaps you armchair hawks have overlooked the fact that NO protracted U.S. war (uintil this one) has been engaged without a draft. And that's not going to happen--and we're not ready to continue the current monstrous Quagmire, let alone attack Iran.
Why would the U.S. be doing that ? Seriously, can you answer that question. And if you're trying to wake people up, can you answer the question without putting me to sleep with YOUR PROPAGANDA ?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:27 pm
by LTS TRN 2
So where's the EVIDENCE, you Rove-parrot bitch? DO you really think the Iranians would just leave bomb-triggers, etc., around with their clear fingerprints? What kind of babbling idiocy has you Dittoheads in such an auto-fear mode?
Or do you actually give credence to the ridiculous "secret" display of Evidence yesterday? Remember, these are THE SAME people who openly lied, smeared and distorted every word out their gobs to start a catastrophic Quagmire in Iraq. Why do you trust them now?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:35 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:DO you really think the Iranians would just leave bomb-triggers, etc., around with their clear fingerprints?
Not intentionally no. That doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. Again, I believe the commanders in the field more than you OR one of Mahmoud's mouthpieces in Iran (as opposed to his mouthpieces here in the states, you are in the states aren't you ?)
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Why do you trust them now?
I don't necessarily trust them. I just happen to trust them MORE than I trust you ..... Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ... or one of his mouthpieces (besides you)
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:36 pm
by Tom In VA
mvscal wrote:Who the fuck do you think is arming the insurgency?
Austria ? and Iran ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... iran13.xml
"Austrian sniper rifles that were exported to Iran have been discovered in the hands of Iraqi terrorists, The Daily Telegraph has learned."
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:49 pm
by LTS TRN 2
The Daily Telegraph is about as balanced as FOX News.
Who's arming the insurgency? Well, how about the 10 gazillion tons of munitions that were left open for looting after our ludicrous "liberation"? And why, for that matter, would, Iran arm the Sunnis? Are you a TOTAL phony? Do actually read the gibberish you spew?
Tom, why do you think I support Muslims, be they Persian or Arab, Shiitie or Sunni? What kind of palsied reasoning are you applying?
I support America and Western secular values. And that certainly includes locking up demented (unelected) leaders which start wars of aggression based on lies and smears?
Any dispute here? DO you dispute that Cheney and Rove, et al, rushed us into this Quagmire on a bunch of lies and smears--cherrypicking and stifiling dissent? And you trust them WHY?
Look, Iran was ATTACKED by Iraq, and its duly elected president deposed illegaly by the CIA. Moerover, the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (outside of the bunker society) lives in Iran. Did you know that? Of course not. Do you automatically doubt it? Why? Who's programming your head that you would give one bit of credibility to the Cheney cabal?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:59 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Look, Iran was ATTACKED by Iraq, and its duly elected president deposed illegaly by the CIA. Moerover, the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (outside of the bunker society) lives in Iran. Did you know that? Of course not. Do you automatically doubt it? Why? Who's programming your head that you would give one bit of credibility to the Cheney cabal?
Why would the Cheney cabal be doing such a thing ?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:01 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:08 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Tom In VA wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Look, Iran was ATTACKED by Iraq, and its duly elected president deposed illegaly by the CIA. Moerover, the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (outside of the bunker society) lives in Iran. Did you know that? Of course not. Do you automatically doubt it? Why? Who's programming your head that you would give one bit of credibility to the Cheney cabal?
Why would the Cheney cabal be doing such a thing ?
You're kidding right? Why would Cheney want to attack Iran? Hmmmm...well, maybe because they've been planning it for twenty-some years, and because they're DESPERATELY cornered in the Mother Of All Quagmires in Iraq, and because it's part of the "Clean Break" policy plan currently being engaged by Cheney. Mostly, though, the second: the administration realizes the catastrpher they're in, and they figure (insanely, as usual) that promoting MORE Emergancy War theatre will somehow pave over their heinous incompetence. Any more questions?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:09 pm
by Dinsdale
Don't get me wrong...I'm not siding with LTS, since that a sign of mental illness...
BUT...c'mon...the Iranian regime might not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but would they really stamp dates and whatnot of manufacture on munitions they were going to sneak into insurgent hands?
Sorry, ain't buying that one, nor is anyone with any common sense...especiall when Joint Chiefs guy running the war doesn't buy it, either.
It pisses me off to no end that I'manidiotman's retort of "well, the American government has a long history of fabricating evidence" holds water, and isn't universally laughed at throughout the entire international community...and that's on Bush and Co. A little honesty would go a long way right now. Their constant twisting and spinning takes some of the edge off of Ahmadinejad's idiocy, which is unacceptable to me.
Although, it's nice to see the Iranian regime losing popular support with the Iranian People, and seem to be backing off the aggression by the day. They've painted themselves into a corner, and Islamic cultures don't respect those who drop idle threats. So the Iranian government is now in a position of weakness with its people, since they made veiled threats that there's no way to deliver on, which will open the door for diplomacy and cooler heads.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:10 pm
by Tom In VA
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Tom In VA wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Look, Iran was ATTACKED by Iraq, and its duly elected president deposed illegaly by the CIA. Moerover, the largest population of Jews in the Middle East (outside of the bunker society) lives in Iran. Did you know that? Of course not. Do you automatically doubt it? Why? Who's programming your head that you would give one bit of credibility to the Cheney cabal?
Why would the Cheney cabal be doing such a thing ?
You're kidding right? Why would Cheney want to attack Iran? Hmmmm...well, maybe because they've been planning it for twenty-some years,
And he would want to do that in order to acquire .... Iranian women for his harem ? Why ?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:13 pm
by Tom In VA
Dinsdale wrote:
BUT...c'mon...the Iranian regime might not be the sharpest knives in the drawer, but would they really stamp dates and whatnot of manufacture on munitions they were going to sneak into insurgent hands?
No but maybe they didn't bother to grind off the "Made In Austria" thinking they could throw us off track and focus our efforts in Vienna.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:17 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:Oh, stop jacking off and answer the question, babs: Why would Iran arm the Sunni insurgency?
For the same reason we armed the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion.
The same reason? What, have you run out of bullshit? And now you're just pissing in the wind?
Look, the U.S. opposed the Soviet Union. We aided the Mujahadeen because they were opposed to the Soviets. Iran may have some real qualms with their fellow Shiites in Iraq, but not one thousadth of the emnity they harbor for the Sunnis. You are, as usual, a total hack, and you've really dealt yourself out of this issue.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:26 pm
by Dinsdale
Uhm...I can walk into a surplus store and buy Austrian/Czech/Romainain sniper rifles by the dozens...cheap.
This week's flyer from my local sporting goods store even lists a Russian M-38 for under $100...and that's even a real calibre -- 7.62x54.
If one was willing to deal with 8MM Mauser sniper rifles, they just about give them away.
So excuse me if I laugh at "Austrian sniper rifles" until they can do a little better than that...those things are floating around by the millions.
So, we're saying Eastern Euro gun manufacturers are whores for profit...who knew?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:37 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:Look, the U.S. opposed the Soviet Union. We aided the Mujahadeen because they were opposed to the Soviets.
As I said...the same reason.
Oh, by the way, a full on sectarian civil war pitting a tiny handful of Sunni Arabs against the rest of Iraq favors whom? It's a win-win for Iran.
What ludicrous twaddle. So, Iran wants to "take over" Iraq? Really? And...you read this in some neocon pamphlet? Iran hasn't acted hegemonously since Cyrus the Great. But America HAS instigated and funded a war against Iran--resulting in a million or so dead Iranians? And you support...?
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:48 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Well, Condi and Wolfie, and Perle and Rove, et al, would agree with you...but, like yourself they've been proven dead wrong again and again. So, it's no surprise you would hold such a irrational view. Face it, Persians and Arabs go together like oil and water, and the idea of Iran holding sway--or direct power--in Iraq is as ludicrous as the "Slam Dunk" argument for WMDs in Iraq (which you also vigorously supported, you clown).
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:57 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:Iran hasn't acted hegemonously since Cyrus the Great.
Speaking of ludicrous twaddle...
The Greeks weren't invaded by Persians? The Parthians weren't hegemons?
Save your answer, fuckhead. You don't know shit.
Clown, the Greeks were invaded by Cyrus, who got waxed in turn by Alexander, thus ending the hegemonous designs of Persia. Tell you what, to make it a little easier on your dittohead parrot brain, consider what Persia has been up to since having its duly elected secular president deposed by the CIA. Try to get in the game, because your silly evasions and fake equivications realy aren't making it. Anymore than some hack piece in the Daily Telegraph. Gee, I'll bet the (soon to be kicked to curb) Aussie PM would agree with you COMPLETELY.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:03 pm
by LTS TRN 2
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:...the idea of Iran holding sway--or direct power--in Iraq is as ludicrous...
That must explain why they immediately infiltrated the country with thousands of agents, millions of dollars and weapons for insurgents...because Arabs and Persians are "oil and water." Oddly enough both of which provide more than adequate incentive to control Iraq.
the "Slam Dunk" argument for WMDs in Iraq (which you also vigorously supporterd, you clown).
The "Slam Dunk Argument" was made by the Director of Central Intelligence and was seconded by every intelligence agency on planet Earth.
What a bunch of backpeddling bullshit! "Thousands of agents"? Any evidence? Of course not.
As for "every intelligence agency on earth"? How about actual experts who were there, like Scott Ritter? In fact, every (ACCURATE) source who disputed Tenet's fatuous fabrication was summarly smeared. Are you following the Libby trial? Are you walking around in little circles in the dark?