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If we let LAW shoot another 3, I am going to get kicked out of my hotel for screaming.

great game. props to the horns. gimmie my sig. i'm going to go throw up.

Whew. I think that should solidify a 4 seed for us. Nice game by the Ags. They play a fierce brand of ball.

I will have a sig for you tomorrow, Indy

The irony is during A&M's season of a lifetime they are still tied for 2nd with a scatterbrain Texas team. Must be a bitch to never get out of big brother's shadow.

Instant Classic.

If Rick Barnes is not the coach of the year in the Big XII then the award means nothing. 4 freshman starters. He loses 7 players from a team the goes to OT and misses out on the final 4. Dude can coach.

wicked double post, i'm in love with Harv.

Harvdog wrote:Whew. I think that should solidify a 4 seed for us. Nice game by the Ags. They play a fierce brand of ball.

I will have a sig for you tomorrow, Indy

that doesn't solidify anything for you....it's a good win but it's at home....and your rpi is in the high 30's.

outside the Durant TV factor, you are 5-7 in reality. look at the rpi, if you doubt me.

King Crimson wrote:

Harvdog wrote:Whew. I think that should solidify a 4 seed for us. Nice game by the Ags. They play a fierce brand of ball.

I will have a sig for you tomorrow, Indy

that doesn't solidify anything for you....it's a good win but it's at home....and your rpi is in the high 30's.

outside the Durant TV factor, you are 5-7 in reality. look at the rpi, if you doubt me.

I see a team that is 12-3 in the Big XII. Regardless of KD, he is still apart of the team and this team has other great players. DJ, Damion James, AJ. I cannot see lower than a 6. If we can get to the semi's of the Big XII tournament, we are a 4-5. Finals, 4.

Harvdog wrote:If Rick Barnes is not the coach of the year in the Big XII then the award means nothing. 4 freshman starters. He loses 7 players from a team the goes to OT and misses out on the final 4. Dude can coach.

i am a big fan of Rick Barnes. he's adapted from a D style to TJ Ford to lamarcus aldridge and now durant.

i talk him up on Sooner boards. FWIW.

but minus winning the Big XII tournament.......UT's rpi will be in the low 30's. or maybe high 20's which is about what harv says but a loss in OKC could put the Horns in 8-9 game.

Amazing game.

aTm is going to be tough come tournament time. Better for them to get the loss out of their system now.

King Crimson wrote:but minus winning the Big XII tournament.......UT's rpi will be in the low 30's. or maybe high 20's which is about what harv says but a loss in OKC could put the Horns in 8-9 game.

A team that wins 12 games in the Big XII and has 22+ wins isn't going to be an 8-9 seed.

Harvdog wrote:

King Crimson wrote:but minus winning the Big XII tournament.......UT's rpi will be in the low 30's. or maybe high 20's which is about what harv says but a loss in OKC could put the Horns in 8-9 game.

A team that wins 12 games in the Big XII and has 22+ wins isn't going to be an 8-9 seed.

big XII doesn't mean shit this year. number of wins is a cosmetic thing of the past...."20 wins". what i said was a loss could put you there. are you saying that's impossible?

right now UT's rpi is 37, that's divided by four is.....more than 8.

At this point, I think UT will be a four or five seed, regardless of what RPI says. They've played a relatively tough schedule and they are finishing strong. Now, they have to go to Lawrence and will in all probability have to play KU and aTm and/or both in the Big 12 Tourney, another couple of losses could knock them down to a 6 seed. On the flip side a couple of more big wins could move them up to a three. As of tonight, I think the #1 seeds are Ohio St., UCLA, Kansas and probably N. Carolina. Personally, I don't think there is a damn bit of difference between a 1 and 2 seed, so who really gives a damn other than just to make the school's fans feel good about themselves for three or four days.

c'mon Mook, yer spoiling the fun of me goofing on Texas fan. but, you are right, 1 or 2 seed.....you are still playing the same team to advance.

Mook wrote:Personally, I don't think there is a damn bit of difference between a 1 and 2 seed, so who really gives a damn other than just to make the school's fans feel good about themselves for three or four days.

More or less agree BUT there is one difference. Let's take UCLA for example. By being a 1 seed in the West they'll have a major home crowd edge for the S16 and E8 games. If they were to drop to a 2 seed while their level of competition would be basically the same to advance they might be in the East and playing across the country. Granted not every #1 ends up staying close to home but in the instances where the 1/2 difference is where the games are played it can be a very big deal.


Oh yeah, and that game was fucking awesome to watch!!!

Mook wrote:I don't think there is a damn bit of difference between a 1 and 2 seed, so who really gives a damn...

Except that a #1 seed has never lost a first round game and a #2 has. More than once. Ask Kansas. They really give a damn if they're a 1 or a 2.

Ok, waiting on the sig, HArv.

I'm going over to tardags.com to see how stupid some of us can be.

War Wagon wrote:

Mook wrote:I don't think there is a damn bit of difference between a 1 and 2 seed, so who really gives a damn...

Except that a #1 seed has never lost a first round game and a #2 has. More than once. Ask Kansas. They really give a damn if they're a 1 or a 2.

I don't think Kansas was a 2 seed when they lost.......I thought they were three, but I'm getting old and feeble and could certainly be mistaken!

King Crimson wrote:c'mon Mook, yer spoiling the fun of me goofing on Texas fan.

oops..........

Mook wrote:

War Wagon wrote:

Mook wrote:I don't think there is a damn bit of difference between a 1 and 2 seed, so who really gives a damn...

Except that a #1 seed has never lost a first round game and a #2 has. More than once. Ask Kansas. They really give a damn if they're a 1 or a 2.

I don't think Kansas was a 2 seed when they lost.......I thought they were three, but I'm getting old and feeble and could certainly be mistaken!

a #3 against Bucknell and a #4 against Bradley.

Only #2 seeds to lose in Round 1 IIRC are South Carolina ('97), Syracuse ('91?), Arizona ('93), and whatever year Hampton beat Iowa State.

Ok, I'll stand corrected on KU losing with a #2

The point remains, however, that Kansas badly wants a #1 seed. There might not be much diff between a 1 and a 2, but there's more between a 15 and a 16.

After the last two years, they want a slam dunk no-brainer... just show up and throw their jock straps out on the court 1st round match-up.

IndyFrisco wrote:Ok, waiting on the sig, HArv.

I'm going over to tardags.com to see how stupid some of us can be.

i'm not sure you want that. last year about this time about half the posters in the BBall forum didn't even know what the rpi was.

i'm fucking serious....OU has dumbass football first fans but the texags.com hoops board is where thought goes to die.

There are no slam-dunk, no-brainers, Wags.

Not any more.

Maybe ten years ago, before the onslaught of NBA-jumpers; when a team could put together a two- or three-year dominant run, those number one seeds were locks you could bet your house on; however, that time has passed us by.

Now, every team in the field is touchable ... even at the hands of a sixteen seed. While the talent level is still vast, that gap has closed considerably. Those lower-seeded teams might not have a chance on paper, but most will be senior-led, fundamentally sound and playing with nothing to lose.

Sure, they shouldn't win, but look at the results of some of those games over the past five years. Many of those games were MUCH closer than they should have been, and a few were up in the air with minutes left in the game.

Yes ... it will take something special for it to happen, but it's only a matter of time before a number one falls.

orcinus wrote:There are no slam-dunk, no-brainers, Wags.

Not any more.

Maybe ten years ago, before the onslaught of NBA-jumpers; when a team could put together a two- or three-year dominant run, those number one seeds were locks you could bet your house on; however, that time has passed us by.

Now, every team in the field is touchable ... even at the hands of a sixteen seed. While the talent level is still vast, that gap has closed considerably. Those lower-seeded teams might not have a chance on paper, but most will be senior-led, fundamentally sound and playing with nothing to lose.

Sure, they shouldn't win, but look at the results of some of those games over the past five years. Many of those games were MUCH closer than they should have been, and a few were up in the air with minutes left in the game.

Yes ... it will take something special for it to happen, but it's only a matter of time before a number one falls.

Very well said, sir.

orcinus wrote: Yes ... it will take something special for it to happen, but it's only a matter of time before a number one falls.

mebbe' so, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

Then again, if and when it does happen, it'll probably be Kansas that it happens to.

Half of KC will be suicidal, the other half will be laughing hysterically and buying out said #16 seeds school bookstore of T-shirts.

War Wagon wrote:

orcinus wrote: Yes ... it will take something special for it to happen, but it's only a matter of time before a number one falls.

mebbe' so, but I won't be holding my breath waiting for it to happen.

Then again, if and when it does happen, it'll probably be Kansas that it happens to.

Half of KC will be calling the winning team “ankle biters”, the other half will be running “I know you are but what am I” smack at the winning team.

FTFY

King Crimson wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Ok, waiting on the sig, HArv.

I'm going over to tardags.com to see how stupid some of us can be.

i'm not sure you want that. last year about this time about half the posters in the BBall forum didn't even know what the rpi was.

i'm fucking serious....OU has dumbass football first fans but the texags.com hoops board is where thought goes to die.

Exactly why I go there. I don't have an account any longer as I was banned for speaking out against A&M at one point. I can't exactly remember what it was, but it had to do with A&M baseball. Some fucks were bitching about why we weren't ranked any higher and I was giving the case why. I eventually was banned because I wasn't "a good Ag".

Therefore, I go there from time to time to see what the lowest common denominator of our kind are discussing. Usually it is how our uniforms are so much better and our "tradition" of Aggie basketball will forever go down in history books.

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Goober McTuber wrote: FTFY

No, that wasn't lame or anything. Not even a little bit.

:roll:

IndyFrisco wrote:

King Crimson wrote:

IndyFrisco wrote:Ok, waiting on the sig, HArv.

I'm going over to tardags.com to see how stupid some of us can be.

i'm not sure you want that. last year about this time about half the posters in the BBall forum didn't even know what the rpi was.

i'm fucking serious....OU has dumbass football first fans but the texags.com hoops board is where thought goes to die.

Exactly why I go there. I don't have an account any longer as I was banned for speaking out against A&M at one point. I can't exactly remember what it was, but it had to do with A&M baseball. Some fucks were bitching about why we weren't ranked any higher and I was giving the case why. I eventually was banned because I wasn't "a good Ag".

Therefore, I go there from time to time to see what the lowest common denominator of our kind are discussing. Usually it is how our uniforms are so much better and our "tradition" of Aggie basketball will forever go down in history books.

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so, you were a potbanger?

i hear you though. on planet Sooner, we call that OUInsider.....

What a great show put on by Durant and Law...probably the two most entertaining players in the nation.

IndyFrisco wrote:Ok, waiting on the sig, HArv.

I'm going over to tardags.com to see how stupid some of us can be.

Here goes: "Even during the greatest year of A&M basketball ever, we still got punked by a Texas team that started 4 true Freshman."

I don't know about "punked" but a sig bet is a sig bet. There are no rules for sigs.

Enjoy....for now