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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:57 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
Hmmmmm...I believe a requirement for Alabama to play OOC is that the humidity is at least 90%.
Come in November then...never drops below 90%(and never gets above about 60 degrees...hope you like rain).
I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks scheduling Alabama is like scheduling Fresno State or Houston. We haven't fallen quite that far.
RACKS for staying within the theme of this thread...that SEC fan is delusional.
But your inability to see that playing an SEC schedule isn't like playing a PAC 10 or Big Ten schedule amazes me.
Yup...delusional. And perfectly in line with "bbbbbut we're just...
better."
Yeah, if only the PAC would play the likes of Vandy, Louisiana-Monroe, Duke, Mississippi, Florida International, and Mississippi State. Fuck dude..."tough schedule" smack from Bama fan...dude, there's schools on your schedule
I've never even heard of(OK, maybe an exaggeration).
If you can't rack up 9 wins with that schedule, you weren't going to get 9 in the Big Sky.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:09 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:If Bama could have played Northwestern, Indiana, Michigan State, Purdue, etc. with last year's weakass team, we'd have had a 9-10 win season. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
It's "so hard to comprehend" because it isn't based on fact. It's based on your biased opinion.
My unwillingness to readily agree with your ignorance doesn't eqaute to me not being able to "comprehend."
See, I can play your game too, Sam. All I have to do is sub out those four teams you mentioned for Vandy, Miss St, Ole Miss, and Kentucky, and actually present a similar, if not STRONGER case. I say stronger because in most years, Michigan St and Purdue are superior to any of
your doormats.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:38 pm
by Dinsdale
Let's not let those pesky "facts" get in the way.
Nevermind that the bottom end of the SEC is as bad, and probably worse than most of the other major conferences.
"Whaaaa, we play a tough conference schedule....WHAAAAAA!"
Last I checked, playing Texas, Oklahoma, and Big Red wasn't exactly a cakewalk. And while the Conference of Champions may be a hair on the downside, playing USC, Washington-until-recently, Wazzu, Arizona State, and even Stanford-in-a-good-year isn't exactly easy. When teams come into Oregon, they have to deal with possible sun-in-your-face, which they're not used to(Autzen is east-west). At Oregon State, opponents have to deal with rednecks spitting on them. Go to Wazzu in early-season, and most schools outside of Arizona aren't used to the arid air.
We can all sit here and make arguments about in-conference play being tough. I think it's beyond amusing that SECDork(and yes, you are dorks) thinks they've somehow cornered the market.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:32 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sam, I'm curious to know how you address this question.
You say unlike everybody else, the SEC plays "real teams week in and week out."
Last season, your team, Bama, played 7 teams who would be considered by even the most casual observer to be patsies or "guaranteed wins."
Of those teams, 4 were out of conference, and 3 were in conference. They were Duke, FIU, Hawaii, LA-Monroe, Vandy, Ole Miss, and Miss St.
Yes, you read that right. More than half of your games were gimmees. I repeat. Over half. Gimmees. Of course, you didn't win all of them, but the theory is that they were gimmees.
So...to your "we only play REAL teams week in and week out" argument, I respond with...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:25 pm
by Dinsdale
I dig your line of reasoning, MGO, but to list Hawaii as a "gimme" takes away from it. They were kinda the #1 offensive team in the country, and certainly weren't a creampuff...although granted, their style of "defense" and R&S offense doesn't always lend itself well to playing a clock-control/field position SEC team.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:31 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Dinsdale wrote:I dig your line of reasoning, MGO, but to list Hawaii as a "gimme" takes away from it.
I had a feeling you were going to call me on that.
And to that I say...
pssssssst, just roll with it...
Actually, I agree. Hawaii isn't a gimmee in the truest sense of the description. NEVERTHELESS, a home game versus Hawaii should result in nothing other than a W if you're a member of the greatest sporting league in the universe.
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:48 pm
by Dinsdale
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:greatest sporting league in the universe.
I thought this thread was about the SEC, not Kal?
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:09 am
by SoCalTrjn
Dinsdale wrote:I dig your line of reasoning, MGO, but to list Hawaii as a "gimme" takes away from it. They were kinda the #1 offensive team in the country, and certainly weren't a creampuff...although granted, their style of "defense" and R&S offense doesn't always lend itself well to playing a clock-control/field position SEC team.
Hawai'i on Kona could be a tough game, Hawai'i in Alabama is a "gimme"
forget the fact that SEC teanms play shit OOC, the fact is these toothless mule licks play 7 and 8 games a year at home. They come up with crap excuses like "we makes mo money when weeze plays at da home feeld" There is no reason why a team should have more than 6 home games in a season, aside from cowardness. these pussies are looking at what may be 2 or 3 tough conf games as an excuse to play 4 at home warm ups vs High School teams, if their ADs and coaches stuck their hands down their pants all theyd feel is gash. If you want to claim that youre the best you need to be willing to play anyone anywhere and not have an excuse
It fucking amazes me that 140 years after the South lost the war, the region is still populated by nothing but cowardly cunts
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:21 pm
by indyfrisco
Sam, you have just back-pedaled yourself into trix, m2ool and schmick bitch mode. Just fucking eject already and go take pictures on the road with some other dude.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:57 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:some good football.
You've got to be trolling at this point.
Yeah, the rest of the country is sooooooo jealous of your epic 9-3 shootouts.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:20 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:But not one of you has yet shown me any conference or team with an impressive OOC schedule!
You still don't get it do you? "We're" not the ones trying to justify, or make excuses for having any shit teams on our schedules. You're doing that. So why should "we" have to defend anything? You follow yet?
In fact, I wouldn't still be pushing the issue if you had just left it at "Our OOC schedules are a joke. There's no excuse. End of discusion." But no, you had to go to the "Well we need to play these cupcakes because our conference schedule is too hard. No other conference should have to do it except us" crap. That's when things took a turn for the worse for you.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:09 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:But not one of you has yet shown me any team with an impressive OOC schedule
I can think of a certain team that played Arkansas, Nebraska, and ND last year. That team seems to like to go scorched-earth on the OOC scheduling as much as possible. Maybe that's why they often have the #1 rated SoS, and get killer BCS points/Bowl games every year, while the SEC plays for the consolation.
Sudden Sam wrote:
Wonder why so few SEC folks post in here anyway.
Because most of them can't read and write.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:17 pm
by T REX
Dinsdale wrote:
They need to make an adjustment to the BCS system to penalize the SEC, and others who want to coast into a BCS Bowl.
This is where you ARE WRONG!!!! Coast? I challenge you....right now....UF had the NUMBER ONE SOS!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119
You are just a hater. That's it...a piece of shit hater.
Coast into the BCS???? WIth the TOP schedule in the country??????? How is that coasting?
It's not and you have been EXPOSED as the bitch you are....again.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:21 pm
by Dinsdale
T REX wrote:
It's not and you have been EXPOSED
A look through the threads from last fall would probably "expose" the fact I was strongly in favor of Florida being in the BCS Bowl...dumbass.
Since you're slow...this thread was about general trends, not specific examples.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:19 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:
I am a beaten man. I'll accept whatever punishment you feel is fair.
If it's up to me, I'll let you off easy
this time...
Just print out the following quote, and display it on the winshield of your motorcycle for the next several weeks, and I'll consider your pennance paid-in-full:
Sudden Sam wrote:Bear Bryant doesn't coach at Bama anymore. We suck. Not even Forrest Gump could get us back to being contenders.
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:21 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:But they're notorious cheaters, so why reward them? Far more money was expended on Reggie Bush's family than any other case(s) I'm aware of. Why has that been swept under the rug anyway? New thread?
If you punish USC, you then have to punish the financial model that all schools have adopted who want to compete...OSU. The chain reaction that would follow would leave
most of us looking for a new sport to cheer for...dangerous precedent.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:24 am
by SoCalTrjn
Sudden Sam wrote: But not one of you has yet shown me any conference or team with an impressive OOC schedule!
Who are these teams that play such bodacious OOC schedules? Which conferences put the SEC's OOC schedule(s) to shame? Who are you talking about? Ohio State? Yeah...Youngstown State, Akron, Kent State. Impressive. Please, god, just tell me who is playing more impressive OOC!!!
I'm sure they're out there. But name anyone who consistently plays a tough OOC schedule.
Here ya go Cock Breath
USC's future and past schedules, no 1AA, no lopsided home schedules, no rampant SEC-style cowardness at all
09-05-2009 San Jose St(CA) Los Angeles, CA
09-12-2009 Ohio State Columbus, OH
10-17-2009 Notre Dame(IN) South Bend, CA
09-06-2008 TBA
09-13-2008 Ohio State Los Angeles, CA
11-29-2008 Notre Dame(IN) Los Angeles, CA
09-01-2007 Idaho Los Angeles, CA
09-15-2007 Nebraska Lincoln, NE
10-20-2007 Notre Dame(IN) South Bend, IN
W 09-02-2006 50 Arkansas 14 Fayetteville, AR
W 09-16-2006 28 Nebraska 10 Los Angeles, CA
W 11-25-2006 44 Notre Dame (IN) 24 Los Angeles, CA
W 09-03-2005 63 Hawaii 17 Honolulu, HI
W 09-17-2005 70 Arkansas 17 Los Angeles, CA
W 10-15-2005 34 Notre Dame (IN) 31 South Bend, IN
W 11-19-2005 50 Fresno St. (CA) 42 Los Angeles, CA
W 08-28-2004 24 Virginia Tech 13 Landover, MD BCA Classic
W 09-11-2004 49 Colorado St. 0 Los Angeles, CA
W 09-18-2004 42 Brigham Young (UT) 10 Provo, UT
W 11-27-2004 41 Notre Dame (IN) 10 Los Angeles, CA
W 08-30-2003 23 Auburn (AL) 0 Auburn, AL
W 09-06-2003 35 Brigham Young (UT) 18 Los Angeles, CA
W 09-13-2003 61 Hawaii 32 Los Angeles, CA
W 10-18-2003 45 Notre Dame (IN) 14 South Bend, IN
W 09-02-2002 24 Auburn (AL) 17 Los Angeles, CA
W 09-14-2002 40 Colorado 3 Boulder, CO
L 09-21-2002 20 Kansas St. 27 Manhattan, KS
wanna buy a Confederate rifle, never fired and only dropped once
OOC schedule...
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:12 am
by geau74
King Crimson wrote:nice OOC schedules SEC. jesus, talk about cupcake city.
YOu play our ICS and we'll play your OOC schedule. How 'bout it?
Re: OOC schedule...
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:49 am
by SoCalTrjn
geau74 wrote:King Crimson wrote:nice OOC schedules SEC. jesus, talk about cupcake city.
YOu play our ICS and we'll play your OOC schedule. How 'bout it?
This is supposed to be a tough IC road schedule?
Aug. 30 at Mississippi State
Oct. 13 at Kentucky
Nov. 3 at Alabama
Nov. 17 at Ole Miss
Even the home IC schedule seems to be rather easy
Sept. 22 South Carolina
Oct. 6 Florida
Oct. 20 Auburn
Nov. 24 Arkansas
the farthest LSU will get from home in 07 is 640 miles when they play @ Kentucky since all of their OOC games are at home
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:16 am
by WolverineSteve
Sudden Sam wrote:Dins,
Neyland holds more than UM's "Big House" last figures I saw. But UM has generally had the most seats, over the years.
Huh?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:44 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:I thought
Yeah, that hasn't been working out too well for you in this thread, has it?
Wait a second...you mean to tell me SECDork doesn't know dick about CF
outside of the SEC? Fucking stunned over here. No, really.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:10 pm
by ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2
Sudden Sam wrote:Neyland surpassed UM's capacity a few years ago. UM has obviously added seats to again be the biggest stadium.
Neyland is the 3rd largest college stadium in the country... and has been for many years.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:11 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:Is it that hard to follow?
Apparently for you it was.
Hilarious.
You tried to act like you knew what you were talking about and got busted for being dead nuts wrong, and now you're trying to spin it around on me like
I'm the one who's confused? Classssssy move, there Sam. Very SECish of you.
Maybe one day some other conference will be able to draw as many fans as the SEC does. Year after year after year, the SEC leads the nation in attendance ... even with all those home games against high school teams! :D
So this is the deflection and subject change you're rolling with now? Attendance figures? Again, rrrreal classy Sammy boy.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:15 pm
by Dinsdale
Sudden Sam wrote:Neyland surpassed UM's capacity a few years ago. UM has obviously added seats to again be the biggest stadium.
Is it that hard to follow?
Since it happened like ten years ago, and Neyland's scant-BODE lasted like two whole years...yeah, it's probably hard for most to understand.
Maybe one day some other conference will be able to draw as many fans as the SEC does. Year after year after year, the SEC leads the nation in attendance
Let's see...largest conference...REFUSES to play road games...:BIGSHOCKER: they sometimes lead in attendence.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:47 pm
by indyfrisco
If the SEC could have all their in conference games as home games for both teams, they would.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:26 pm
by SoCalTrjn
Sudden Sam wrote:Dinsdale wrote:The problem is, that Bama makes for a worse OOC than Fresno State and Houston.
Would Bama even be able to play if the relative humidity was under 50%?
Hmmmmm...I believe a requirement for Alabama to play OOC is that the humidity is at least 90%.
I'd never wanna come down here to play if I was in the Big 12, PAC 10 or Big Ten. The heat's murder.
Which is why I think that if Auburn had any balls at all, they would travel to Pullman and play Washington State at a time of the year that would give the Cougars the same home site advantage that the Tigers had playing in Bama last August... say mid to late November.
'Course everyone knows that Auburn has no balls and will likely never play at Wash St
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:48 pm
by SEC Ballsucking Homer
Every team goes 13-0.
Count on it.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:35 pm
by Ken
Holy
Freaking
Hell
That may have been the greatest pile of steaming idiocy ever gathered and posted in one place. I should check this forum a bit more often in the offseason. That was one hell of an entertaining beatdown.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:05 pm
by SoCalTrjn
Bamas nickname is after a womans menstration and youre going to pick on him for the clothes his team wears?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:06 pm
by indyfrisco
There's no beer in Alabama an Oregonean would drink. Tell me you knew.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:07 pm
by SoCalTrjn
is Flat Tire illegal in Bama too?
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:08 pm
by Dinsdale
Ass Tire should be illegal in all 50 states, plus DC.
Nasty, nasty shit.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:23 pm
by SoCalTrjn
Sierra Nevada fan?
I dont drink beer much
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:25 pm
by Dinsdale
Sierra makes some deece brews...some of the very few from cali that aren't vastly overrated.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:31 pm
by orcinus
You're quite the Arrogant Bastard, Dins.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:32 pm
by Dinsdale
The Bastard is pretty darn good.
BTW -- I'm not arrogant...I'm right.
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:35 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:There's actually been no beat-down whatsoever.
That isn't up to you to decide.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:36 am
by Ken
Sudden Sam wrote:There's actually been no beat-down whatsoever.
THIS, says otherwise:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:the argument has always been that with the SEC schedule, we can't afford to play a tough OOC game.
Yeah, that worked out real well for us didn't it?
-2004 Auburn
The fact that it took until page fucking FOUR to understand what mgo was saying tells me the bludgeoning in this thread was so severe that you can't even recognize the beating through the bloody mess.
... and that was only ONE. I could
easily go one, but I'll save you the embarassment. Oh hell, twist my arm... why not:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Arkansas was so one-dimensional on offense that pitiful Alabama would have beaten them last year
Nevertheless, Arky was still one of your league's premier teams last season. This is where SECDork kicks his own ass, but doesn't even realize it.
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:10 pm
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Sudden Sam wrote:Anybody who knew shit about football recognized that they were maybe the 4th or 5th best team
5th??
Beyond UF and LSU, who was better?
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:18 pm
by indyfrisco
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:Anybody who knew shit about football recognized that they were maybe the 4th or 5th best team
5th??
Beyond UF and LSU, who was better?
TRADITIONALLY! That's all that matters! Arkie is traditionally the 4th or 5th best team! I don't care what they did last year! What do you not get about this?
Sin,
Head In The Sand SEC Ballsucking Homer Fan