Einstein Gives Us FOUR YEARS!

[smackaholic]

WACKY WACKY

ftfy

PS....There's more people who are aware of the size and scope of Monsanto (and ConAgra) than you think. Hell, one of my friends from college works for ConAgra.

Frankly, I have absolutely NO problem with the "industrialization" of agriculture. The whole portrayal of "industrial ag" as evil, while family farms [cue sappy music] are the "heart and soul of our nation" is frigging romanticized utter bullshit. Farming is a business. Period. No inherent "nobility" or "purity" involved. There's nothing sacred or special about farming that sets it apart and above any other business. Refusing to use 21st century technology to improve efficiency and output of your business is stupid, and if a business owner (i.e., in this case the farmer) can't compete with industrial ag without taxpayer-provided subsidies, then that business should go under. Period.

Peddle your violin-theme-music Amish-wannabe horseshit someplace else.

I was thinkin' more john mellencamp than violin.

[LTS TRN 2]

WACKY WACKY

ftfy

PS....There's more people who are aware of the size and scope of Monsanto (and ConAgra) than you think. Hell, one of my friends from college works for ConAgra.

Frankly, I have absolutely NO problem with the "industrialization" of agriculture. The whole portrayal of "industrial ag" as evil, while family farms [cue sappy music] are the "heart and soul of our nation" is frigging romanticized utter bullshit. Farming is a business. Period. No inherent "nobility" or "purity" involved. There's nothing sacred or special about farming that sets it apart and above any other business. Refusing to use 21st century technology to improve efficiency and output of your business is stupid, and if a business owner (i.e., in this case the farmer) can't compete with industrial ag without taxpayer-provided subsidies, then that business should go under. Period.

Peddle your violin-theme-music Amish-wannabe horseshit someplace else.

What a sorry crock of shit you pretend to peddle!

The problem with these giant agribusiness conglomerates....LISTEN CLOSELY....

is pure Greed.

Example: the greedy soulless corporate fuckpuppies at Monsantos, armed with their perverse policy of Profit, Period....Have aggressively introduced NON-Generating seeds! That's right, seeds whose plants DO NOT reproduce new seeds, thus forcing the farmers--who have no choice--to buy the seeds EACH year. This morally abhorant twisting of nature's basic design is all the evidence any sane person should require as to the true character of these rapacious and DISASTEROUS companies. Or what, L-Rat, do you have some fake bullshit as to the verities of giving seed strains a vasectomy? Bring it, you pathetic puppet.

[Mike the Lab Rat]

The problem with these giant agribusiness conglomerates....LISTEN CLOSELY....

is pure Greed.

Example: the greedy soulless corporate fuckpuppies at Monsantos, armed with their perverse policy of Profit, Period....Have aggressively introduced NON-Generating seeds! That's right, seeds whose plants DO NOT reproduce new seeds, thus forcing the farmers--who have no choice--to buy the seeds EACH year. This morally abhorant twisting of nature's basic design is all the evidence any sane person should require as to the true character of these rapacious and DISASTEROUS companies. Or what, L-Rat, do you have some fake bullshit as to the verities of giving seed strains a vasectomy? Bring it, you pathetic puppet.

Sounds like a pretty solid way to ensure future business to me. Props to Monsanto.

As far as "twisting" nature....take a chill pill LTS TRifkiN. The planet and all in it is our genetic playground.

[Ken]

Example: the greedy soulless corporate fuckpuppies at Monsantos, armed with their perverse policy of Profit, Period....Have aggressively introduced NON-Generating seeds! That's right, seeds whose plants DO NOT reproduce new seeds, thus forcing the farmers--who have no choice--to buy the seeds EACH year. This morally abhorant twisting of nature's basic design is all the evidence any sane person should require as to the true character of these rapacious and DISASTEROUS companies. Or what, L-Rat, do you have some fake bullshit as to the verities of giving seed strains a vasectomy? Bring it, you pathetic puppet.

Holy fuck are you one ignorant twat. Listen, I'm not asking that you understand hybrid seed production... of course. All I'm asking is that you don't speak of what you clearly know nothing about. Your post is so rife w/ignorance that I don't even know where to begin.

Seeds from hybrids do not flower true to type. In other words, unlike your shit posts which are quite clearly easily reproducible, Hybrid seeds are not. Progeny from hybrid seeds will greatly vary w/respect to virtually every quality of a plant; flower color, disease resistance, height, flavor, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Now, let me stop your eerily, slug-like mind in its tracks and refute your next idiotic satement... Well, LTS TRN, breeding companies produce hybrid seed because it is exactly what the farmers/growers want. The qualities of the plant are faaaaar superior to that of open pollinated plants. For this, they are quite happy to pay a premium for the seeds of hybrids. To not do so would be penny wise and pound foolish, to say the least.

So, why don't the farmers produce the hybrid seed themselves, you say? Well, idiot, because they don't have even CLOSE to the wherewithall to do so. Nor, would they want to, you fucktard. These days, it costs about $10,000 acre to produce hybrid seed. Yeah, THAT'S a cost a farmer wants to incur.

Off yourself before you step on yor vaginal flaps again.

[LTS TRN 2]

Sorry to stomp on your BULLSHIT, "Ken," but you need a basic reality check:

Farmers worldwide have always gathered and saved seeds, planting them the next season, and saving them again, with knowledge practices gained through generations. Now all of that is threatened by a seed scarcity that has been created by the global power of transnational corporations. Genetically engineered seeds are "patented" through manipulated "intellectual property rights" as set forth in the GATT (General Agreement on Trade and Tariffs) treaty.

These corporations make food a "product" for profit, demanding mono-cultural growing systems instead of bio-diversity. These policies create dependence and destroy sustainability.

The genetically altered and patented "terminator" (non-reproducible) seeds create the need for new seeds to be bought each year, and tamper with the complex balance of life. Many experiments have already gone wrong, such as bio-engineered corn seeds with a herbicide in the seed, which kills Monarch butterflies when they come to pollinate.

The brutal "structural adjustment" policies of the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the World Trade Organization break the backs of the small farmers and put control in the hands of global agribusiness. Seed-saving becomes a crime -- an actual codified and punished crime! Farmers who save seeds are called "pirates" by the chemical giants such as Monsanto Corporation when the real pirates are the globalization policies that are colonizing our very future.

And these very same corporate criminals (in the deepest sense) IMMEDIATELY inserted their perverse design into the Iraq invasion, forcing the Iraqis to accept (as per Bremer's "100 point" agreement) to allow Monsantos and the other agribusiness giants to introduce their manipulated seeds into the oldest agricultural area in the world. The disgrace is only secondary to the DISASTER being engendered by these short-sighted glutonous villans.

[Mike the Lab Rat]

Many experiments have already gone wrong, such as bio-engineered corn seeds with a herbicide in the seed, which kills Monarch butterflies when they come to pollinate.

Horseshit. After the alarmist 1999 study/claims for a "serious potential" risk to monarchs, a ACTUAL study was done, and found the risk -for several reasons- to be NEGLIGIBLE (the researcher's words, not mine). If you don't want to hurt your brain reading the whole paper, which is actually the best way to understand how the methodology works, then read the abstract.

And these very same corporate criminals (in the deepest sense) IMMEDIATELY inserted their perverse design into the Iraq invasion, forcing the Iraqis to accept (as per Bremer's "100 point" agreement) to allow Monsantos and the other agribusiness giants to introduce their manipulated seeds into the oldest agricultural area in the world. The disgrace is only secondary to the DISASTER being engendered by these short-sighted glutonous villans.

Monsanto is now supposed to be part of the gigantic conspiracy in Iraq? Either you are a completely clueless dimwit or a troll.

[Goober McTuber]

Monsanto must be owned by Haliburton.

[Ken]

Sorry to stomp on your BULLSHIT, "Ken," but you need a basic reality check:

Farmers worldwide have always gathered and saved seeds, planting them the next season, and saving them again, with knowledge practices gained through generations.

You really don't want to step to me on this subject. No really, you don't. Better yet, you shouldn't.
But oh the mis-step on your part; you did. Bad move.

I really don't have the time for this right now. Really, I don't. Gotta go to work... at a breeding company.
Yes, you read that correctly. Sucks for you, eh?. Be back later.

[Goober McTuber]

Gotta go to work... at a breeding company.
Yes, you read that correctly.

Kendra,

Are you the guy they hire to jack off the bulls?

[Dinsdale]

Ctrl-Cudaing from awakenedwoman.com?!?!?

BWAA!!!!

I think what you meant to say was "We'll see you under your next nic, Nick."

[Fat Bones]

Damn fine job, 88.

Rack.

[PSUFAN]

he jtindall'ed it! I love it when that happens.

Add Nick to the list:

Fraudo
Cuda
Hydrogenated Paul
jtindall


BWAAHAHAHAHA

[LTS TRN 2]

Just like the incident with the Ciimp almost blowing himself up with the hybrid car at the White House, the disasterous and greed-soaked seed manipulation of Monsantos and their ilk is TRUE.

Meanwhile, you knee-jerk neocon clowns have been proven wrong on every single area of your circle-jerk support.

SCOREBOARD AWAKENED WOMEN AND NF

[Dinsdale]

Just like the incident with the Ciimp almost blowing himself up with the hybrid car at the White House... is TRUE.

No, it's not.


And if I actually have to explain why it is 100% pure bullshit, then you're even more stupid than you come across here...if that's even possible.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Just like the incident with the Ciimp almost blowing himself up with the hybrid car at the White House, the disasterous and greed-soaked seed manipulation of Monsantos and their ilk is TRUE.

Meanwhile, you knee-jerk neocon clowns have been proven wrong on every single area of your circle-jerk support.

SCOREBOARD AWAKENED WOMEN AND NF

Let's get the focus back to your literary thieving, LTS TRN 3.0

[Dinsdale]

LTS TRN 3.0

Niiiice.

[RadioFan]

Rack this pileon and 88.

Just when you thought wacky boy couldn't be any more of a tool.

[Dinsdale]

TRUE.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar ... 1013/BIZ04

Crying over here.


It's TRUE, according to Spic Disco. It's false, according to the guy who told the original story.


Hmmm....



Although I've never worked on a hydrogen fuelled scam vehicle, I'd assume the hydrogen tank is like that of ALL flammable gasses, and has a reverse-thread coupling. Last I checked, both 110V and 220V feeds have brass/copper prongs...not sure why anyone would think they would interchange...unless they're REALLY gullible...


or trolling.

[Mike the Lab Rat]

Just like the incident with the Ciimp almost blowing himself up with the hybrid car at the White House, the disasterous and greed-soaked seed manipulation of Monsantos and their ilk is TRUE.

Meanwhile, you knee-jerk neocon clowns have been proven wrong on every single area of your circle-jerk support.

1) I am not a "neo-con." Nor am I a conservative. If you honestly think I am, then you haven't been paying attention. Please adjust your meds.

2) You could not win a science debate with a 3rd grader, let alone prove any of the college-educated folks here wrong in that area. Trust me. In your own way, you're as scientifically ignorant as the most inbred creationist from the Bible belt.

[BSmack]

Sounds like a pretty solid way to ensure future business to me. Props to Monsanto.

And props for the "Roots Suit".

sin

Dr. Johnny Fever

[LTS TRN 2]

Just like the incident with the Ciimp almost blowing himself up with the hybrid car at the White House, the disasterous and greed-soaked seed manipulation of Monsantos and their ilk is TRUE.

Meanwhile, you knee-jerk neocon clowns have been proven wrong on every single area of your circle-jerk support.

SCOREBOARD AWAKENED WOMEN AND NF

Let's get the focus back to your literary thieving, LTS TRN 3.0

Sure, Mg-Special, and moreover, let's notice how the statement HOLDS UP!! No one can refute or even approach its particulars without admitting both the truth of its facts and the dire implications of its observations.

As for the gobbledygook offered by "Ken" and other self-appointed industry hacks, this is the same sort of spin-bullshit that's accompanied the killing of the electric car, the trading of emission credits, the "controversy" surrounding global warming, and Thomas Friedman-like gibberish championing "free market" policies.

I chose the text offered because it provided just the right tone. Sensible and clear. Not the attempted sleight of hand of industry puppets. Look closely at the GATT angle of this insideous operation--and yes, look at the forced implementation of Monsanto and its "patented seeds" into the "post-war" Iraq plan as forged by Bremer in 2004.

[LTS TRN 2]

HANG BUSH

[LTS TRN 2]

You mean THIS (unelected) Bush administration?


Wakey Wake, asshole, your smarm--a tiny reflection of the real Smarm of Rove and the neocons--is coming back to bite the smarm-queens on their respective asses. Today it's Gonzalez, tomorrow, Wolfie, and then Rove, and then etc....

TIME'S UP!!

[Mike the Lab Rat]

I think that Bush is definitely one of the worst Presidents ever, but in no way, shape, or form has his administration overseen anything remotely resembling WWII and the Holocaust.

Your repeated attempts to compare Bush to Nazi Germany are inane. Only someone with a low double digit IQ AND a compete lack of education of world history would consider the two comparable. You've leapt from hyperbole to complete stupidity.

Congrats.

[Dinsdale]

The LTS TRN 2 troll is run by none other than Mike Godwin.


Tell me you knew?

[BSmack]

I think that Bush is definitely one of the worst Presidents ever, but in no way, shape, or form has his administration overseen anything remotely resembling WWII and the Holocaust.

Your repeated attempts to compare Bush to Nazi Germany are inane. Only someone with a low double digit IQ AND a compete lack of education of world history would consider the two comparable. You've leapt from hyperbole to complete stupidity.

Congrats.

To be perfectly fair to Wakey Wakey, I believe he was alluding to the support Dubya's grandfather gave to the Nazi regime prior to and during WWII.

That being said, his style is so over the top that I am left to believe that he is a Bushite trolling as an opponent of the Administration.

[LTS TRN 2]

I think that Bush is definitely one of the worst Presidents ever, but in no way, shape, or form has his administration overseen anything remotely resembling WWII and the Holocaust.

Your repeated attempts to compare Bush to Nazi Germany are inane. Only someone with a low double digit IQ AND a compete lack of education of world history would consider the two comparable. You've leapt from hyperbole to complete stupidity.

Congrats.

Wrong, M-Rat, the actions of this (unelected) adminsistration in fact stand shoulder to shoulder with Hitler's actions.

First, in terms of blatant illegal and immoral aggression visited upon a sovereign nation. The sheer caranage and despoilment constitutes MILLIONS of victims--and it's not done yet.

Why do you somehow draw a distinction? Don't you know that Hitler claimed his aggression was based on anti-terrorism? It was known as "Bolshevism" and was regarded EXACTLY the same way "Islamic Fascism" is by our current neocon wingnuts.

Our lock-step support of Israel is similarly IDENTICAL to Nazi philosophy, etc. The implementation of a hyper-military race-state. (And this is the solid fact despite the bitter irony of these same ZioNazis being given their opportunity because of the Nazi policies). The fact that Israel maintains an all-out full-press 24-365 PR campaign to distort and reframe every aspect of its appearance on the world stage apparently works pretty well on you.

The crimes of the (unelected) Bush regime stretch far beyond the mere horrifically botched invasion of Iraq. And the leaders--Cheney, Chimp, Rice, Bolton (both), Negroponte, Feith, Wolfowitz, Kissenger (shadow member), Abrams, Tenet, and several others rightly deserve to be hanged by the neck for their international war crimes.

If you are such a spinning top as to believe that I'm "trolling" (or whatever that idiotic term is supposed to entail) than you need to lift up your head...and WAKEY WAKE!!

[BSmack]

Wrong, M-Rat, the actions of this (unelected) adminsistration in fact stand shoulder to shoulder with Hitler's actions.

Never mind Mike. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Obviously I erred. Yes Virginia, there is a Stupid Claus.

[LTS TRN 2]

Sure, b-smack, that's why America's reputation in the world is at an all-time low.

That's why we're in a QUAGMIRE of unprecendented proportions.

That's why half of the (unelected) administration is under investigation--or desperately refusing to give up evidence that would lead to their prosecution.

That's why Israel is resembling a walled in bunker these days, and getting a LOT worse soon.

....And tell me again ANYTHING that would prop up your.., uh..point of view.

Oh, that's right, you don't HAVE a take!

YOU'RE the "troll" who...does what, again?

[BSmack]

Sure, b-smack, that's why America's reputation in the world is at an all-time low.

I damn sure am not one of Bush's fans. I'm just saying that you totally undermine your own POV when you make wild and unfounded comparisons of Bush to Hitler. In short, you're making us look bad.

[LTS TRN 2]

I think you're limiting your understanding of Hitler and his social design to the particulars of Germany and Europe during the post-WWI era. And of course your image of the Nazis is understandably limited to the sensational historical facts of their destruction visited and received.

But look at the HUGE similarities that transcend particular nationalities and their respective "bogeymen" held up enemies that must be attacked, etc.

Start with the basic factor of the Nazis, the element of their design which they basically invented and utilized with a technique not seen again until Karl Rove, namely the business of propaganda. Do you wonder how a relatively educated nation such as the U.S. could possibly believe to the tune of about 70% that Saddam Hussein was somehow involved in 9/11?

The Germans were educated too.

How about the de facto policy of "American Exceptionalism"? This neocon staple is basically identical to a nasty little concept of the Nazis which they voiced as "Duetch Uber Alles." Ever hear of a German philosopher of the early 20th-century named Fichte? His poisonous and influential drivel was very similar to the wretched puke of such hacks as Rusp Limpdick, Newt Gingrich, and Michael Ledeen.

Now compare the actual deeds of Nazi Germany and the (unelecgted) reign of Cheney 'n Chimp. Examine how under the Necessity of the Reichstag Fire/9/11, all manner of consolidation of power (to the Furher/Unelected President) and restriction of civil rights and constitutional priviledges has ensued. And of course, a major and--exactly like the Nazis--completely unwinnable war against a undefined Enemy has been the most fundamental act of the regime.

Look at the overall design of this vile criminal consortium. And realize, it's time to join the underground, as it were, and fight back anyway you can. It really is THAT bad.

WW

[LTS TRN 2]

'Scuse me, the unabashed apologist for the Iraq invasion says WHAT?

Despite your apparent interest in history, you've long ago defaulted on any real discussion.

[titlover]

I think you're limiting your understanding of Hitler and his social design to the particulars of Germany and Europe during the post-WWI era. And of course your image of the Nazis is understandably limited to the sensational historical facts of their destruction visited and received.

But look at the HUGE similarities that transcend particular nationalities and their respective "bogeymen" held up enemies that must be attacked, etc.

Start with the basic factor of the Nazis, the element of their design which they basically invented and utilized with a technique not seen again until Karl Rove, namely the business of propaganda. Do you wonder how a relatively educated nation such as the U.S. could possibly believe to the tune of about 70% that Saddam Hussein was somehow involved in 9/11?

The Germans were educated too.

How about the de facto policy of "American Exceptionalism"? This neocon staple is basically identical to a nasty little concept of the Nazis which they voiced as "Duetch Uber Alles." Ever hear of a German philosopher of the early 20th-century named Fichte? His poisonous and influential drivel was very similar to the wretched puke of such hacks as Rusp Limpdick, Newt Gingrich, and Michael Ledeen.

Now compare the actual deeds of Nazi Germany and the (unelecgted) reign of Cheney 'n Chimp. Examine how under the Necessity of the Reichstag Fire/9/11, all manner of consolidation of power (to the Furher/Unelected President) and restriction of civil rights and constitutional priviledges has ensued. And of course, a major and--exactly like the Nazis--completely unwinnable war against a undefined Enemy has been the most fundamental act of the regime.

Look at the overall design of this vile criminal consortium. And realize, it's time to join the underground, as it were, and fight back anyway you can. It really is THAT bad.

WW

wow. so this is what concentrated paranoia looks like.

cool.

[Mike the Lab Rat]

It really is THAT bad.

That pretty much sums up your posting history.

You are a tedious troll.

[Tom In VA]

I gotta razz ya a bit teach.

You're a science teacher, proficient in math, and you don't know the difference between "sums" and "somes".

Hope you don't grade your kids on spelling and stuff.

[Felix]

The LTS TRN 2 troll is run by none other than Mike Godwin.

but Godwin's Law states:

If someone brings up Nazis in general conversation when it wasn't necessary or germane without it necessarily being an insult, it's probably about time for the thread to end.

I'm gonna miss this thread......

[Mike the Lab Rat]

I gotta razz ya a bit teach.

You're a science teacher, proficient in math, and you don't know the difference between "sums" and "somes".

Hope you don't grade your kids on spelling and stuff.

Typing fast with a two-year-old bugging you will do that.

[BSmack]

The LTS TRN 2 troll is run by none other than Mike Godwin.

but Godwin's Law states:

If someone brings up Nazis in general conversation when it wasn't necessary or germane without it necessarily being an insult, it's probably about time for the thread to end.

I'm gonna miss this thread......

Actualy, Goodwin's Law states...

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Of course as any discussion grows longer, the probability of any comparison of any kind grows closer to one.

[Felix]

The LTS TRN 2 troll is run by none other than Mike Godwin.

but Godwin's Law states:

If someone brings up Nazis in general conversation when it wasn't necessary or germane without it necessarily being an insult, it's probably about time for the thread to end.

I'm gonna miss this thread......

Actualy, Goodwin's Law states...

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Of course as any discussion grows longer, the probability of any comparison of any kind grows closer to one.

now you're just being difficult......

Godwin's Law states a lot of things......

[LTS TRN 2]

Wrong, Js, the "bee thing" is definitely still on, and the effects are still to be seen. Einstein probably didn't say it, but it's still basically true. Einstein, it turns out, was wrong about a lot of things.

As for "Godwin," such a cookie-cutter approach to subject matter--be it Nazis or Pol Pot or the Turks in Armenia--is just empty twaddle. Sorry, the comparison to Nazi Germany holds as per the utter criminality of the (unelected) cabal. Similarly, the comparisons of Nazi Germany and the current state of "Israel" are also more and more apt--as the Zio9nist whermacht rolls out in wild-eyed desperation once again, bombing caged civilians while vigorously peddling their ludicrous interpretation of history.

Fact: when the U.S.-sponsored Zionist war machine attacked its neighboring Arab nations in 1967, the Arabs--Egypt in particular--were NOT about to attack at all. TOTAL BULLSHIT that the compliant U.S. media has swallowed and digested as historical fact.

As for you clowns, it's pretty obvious that you have no real opinions at all. I don't know if you're as Dittoheaded as babs, for example, but you clearly have no actual positions.