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If you're "against" divorce, then you definitely married up.

My condolences go out to Falwell's Cathouse of choice. I pray for them as they suffer from lost revenue.

Michael Moore wouldn't fit down the speed slide any more than Jabba the Hut might. The comparison is not at all apt.

War Wagon wrote:Rack Falwell for speaking out against abortion (the reason he formed the Moral Majority), homosexuality, divorce, and pornography.

Step out of your Little House on the Prairie dreamworld, and come join the rest of us, dude. Or just stay locked up in your house, and quiver at the thought of all the homos and porn-viewers that are out to get you.

Yeah, I bet Whitey's never looked at internet porn a day in his life ---> I need a Big Fat Fuckin Roll Eyes thingie STAT!

Goober McTuber wrote: Are you saying we should outlaw divorce?

No.

It's fine for the loser who made a bad decision and then can't keep the bitch in check. I don't fit in that category.

mvscal wrote:

Flawed Logic wrote:You don't have to "celebrate" his death (Saddam style), but I see nothing wrong with getting a jump on framing his legacy and, like Saddam, acknowledging that this was not a good person.

You are a completely fuckheaded dumbshit if you put Falwell in the same category as Saddam Hussein.

Falwell was a jerkoff not a mass murderer.

Usually you come across as a pretty smart guy whose politics I can at least understand so it's a bit odd you checked your brain at the door for that particular post and made a bizarre leap in assuming I was calling Falwell a murdering psychopath. I was comparing the fact that people are celebrating the death of well-known person to the chagrin of some (in this case, War Wagon among others).

Now shake it off and come up with something better next time.

A Favorite Jerry Falwell Quote:
Tomorrow, the Rude Pundit will more properly mourn the passing of Jerry Falwell, but in the immediate shock and horror of his sudden death, it is best sometimes to go back in a man's life to get his true measure. Here's Falwell preaching in 1958, quoted in a Washington Post profile in 1988 by Walt Harrington:

"'In this message,' Falwell intoned pompously, 'I want to use the Bible alone as our guide. It is never worthwhile to give man's opinion...The answer to the whole subject can be found in Genesis 9:18-27.' Falwell went on to explain that Ham, the son of Noah, had seen Noah naked one day. When Noah discovered this, he cursed Ham's son, Canaan: 'A servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.' Falwell explained that Ham later became the progenitor of the African race.

"He rambled on, still using 'the Bible alone' as his guide: 'The true Negro does not want integration...He realizes his potential is far better among his own race...We see the hand of Moscow in the background...We see the Devil himself behind it...It will destroy our race eventually...In one northern city, a pastor friend of mine tells me that a couple of opposite race live next door to his church as man and wife ...It boils down to whether we are going to take God's Word as final.'

"Oblivious to the hatefulness of his sermon, Falwell concluded: '...If we live in constant fellowship with the Lord, He can enable us to live Christ-like before others.'"

Ah, yes, Falwell may have recanted the segregationist language, but it's a virtual template for every one of his sanctimoniously vicious attacks on people who made his redneck stomach queasy, crazy with a glaze of mock rationality.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

adam-$300 wrote:Ah, yes, Falwell may have recanted the segregationist language, but it's a virtual template for every one of his sanctimoniously vicious attacks on people who made his redneck stomach queasy, crazy with a glaze of mock rationality.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/

And this is why Whitey embraces him so.

Goober McTuber wrote:

KC Scott wrote:Wanna know what god Falwell really prayed to?

Exactly. Note that he was all ready to absorb the Bakkers’ Pass The Plate club until he found out about their financial troubles.

Further on that point . . .

Apparently some members of Falwell's congregation trusted him enough to go to him for financial counseling. A clip I heard on the radio (which was claimed to be Falwell, and sounded enough like him to be legit), claimed that he would ask these people to write down their household budget. If tithing was not the first thing listed, he would immediately point to that as the problem.

Translation: don't worry if you can't pay the mortgage, put food on your family (Bushism used on purpose) or pay for medical care, but you damn well better give me my cut before you do any of those things. And he was saying this to some of the most vulnerable people who came into contact with him.

Jay in Phoenix wrote: And this is why Whitey embraces him so.

Not at all, Jay. I just respected the guy for having the courage of his convictions, and rolleyes at those harshly judging him. Like they're somehow better.

Was he a saint? Heck no, but all have fallen short. I just think his was a voice that needed to be heard, and by gosh, it was.

Spongebob and the Tellytubbies are pulling a train on that hateful cunt right about now.

Falwell wasn't the only one, but I'm certain he was one of the people Genesis had in mind when they wrote the following song:

You see the face on the tv screen
Coming at you every sunday
See that face on the billboard
That man is me

On the cover of the magazine
Theres no question why Im smiling
You buy a piece of paradise
You buy a piece of me

Ill get you everything you wanted
Ill get you everything you need
Dont need to believe in hereafter
Just believe in me

Cos jesus he knows me
And he knows Im right
Ive been talking to jesus all my life
Oh yes he knows me
And he knows Im right
And hes been telling me
Everything is alright

I believe in the family
With my ever loving wife beside me
But she dont know about my girlfriend
Or the man I met last night

Do you believe in god
Cos thats what Im selling
And if you wanna get to heaven
Ill see you right

You wont even have to leave your house
Or get outta your chair
You dont even have to touch that dial
Cos Im everywhere

And jesus he knows me
And he knows Im right
Ive been talking to jesus all my life
Oh yes he knows me
And he knows Im right
Well hes been telling me
Everythings gonna be alright

Wont find me practising what Im preaching
Wont find me making no sacrifice
But I can get you a pocketful of miracles
If you promise to be good, try to be nice
God will take good care of you
Just do as I say, dont do as I do

Im counting my blessings,
Ive found true happiness
Cos Im getting richer, day by day
You can find me in the phone book,
Just call my toll free number
You can do it anyway you want
Just do it right away

Therell be no doubt in your mind
Youll believe everything Im saying
If you wanna get closer to him
Get on your knees and start paying

Cos jesus he knows me
And he knows Im right
Ive been talking to jesus all my life
Oh yes he knows me
And he knows Im right
Well hes been telling me
Everythings gonna be alright, alright

Jesus he knows me
Jesus he knows me, you know...

Looking forward to the reunion tour, btw . . .

Nishlord wrote:Spongebob and the Tellytubbies are pulling a train on that hateful cunt right about now.

Included im sure are the pistol gripped dildo and neon assbeads your cunty ass sold him previously, you smut peddling loser.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: If tithing was not the first thing listed, he would immediately point to that as the problem.

That's strict biblical doctrine, and anyone who professes to be a true believer should adhere to tithing. No ifs, ands, or buts. The bible says that it shall be returned tenfold, and from my experience, it's true. I've seen it. You reap what you sow.

Give unto Ceaser what is Ceasers. Give unto the Lord what is the Lord's. It ain't your money, Holmes, and that's no joke.

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: If tithing was not the first thing listed, he would immediately point to that as the problem.

That's strict biblical doctrine, and anyone who professes to be a true believer should adhere to tithing. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Different religions have different takes on tithing.

Be that as it may, while faith is all well and good, you can't eat it. And if you reproduce, you're no longer responsible only for yourself. Food costs money, a place to live costs money, clothing costs money and medical care costs money. And that's just the bare minimum standard.

If one's budget is so tight that one is unsure of one's ability to pay for those things, perhaps donation to one's church should be cut first. Moreover, Falwell isn't exactly what you'd call a disinterested party when it comes to giving financial advice in that situation.

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: If tithing was not the first thing listed, he would immediately point to that as the problem.

That's strict biblical doctrine, and anyone who professes to be a true believer should adhere to tithing.

That's a book written by Men who needed shit to live on where in they tell you to give them shit to live on so they can spout the "word of
god" so that you then keep giving them shit to live on. It's quite a scam.

No ifs, ands, or buts. The bible says that it shall be returned tenfold, and from my experience, it's true. I've seen it. You reap what you sow.

So you must have received your ball gag. Will your computer crash soon?

Give unto Ceaser what is Ceasers.

and give unto whitey a set of encyclopedias.

PSUFAN wrote:If you're "against" divorce, then you definitely married up.

Some people just stay married because they know that otherwise they will be all alone.

Mister Bushice wrote: Some people just stay married because they know that otherwise they will be all alone.

And some people take their vows seriously. Which is it for you?

Tell ya' what Bushy. When faced with the choice of heeding the words of somebody posting crap on the internet, or what I believe to be the inspired written word of God, I'll most likely defer to the latter.

Is that why you're sending some idiot you don't know two fitty for expenses? That ain't coming out of your tithes, is it?


You're going to hell.

War Wagon wrote:

Jsc810 wrote:He was every bit as much of a thief as Swaggert and Baker.

Link?

Let 'em have their thread, Bro. Please tell me the reaction here didn't surprise you.

There are some seriously stupid people posting on this board.

War Wagon wrote:

Mister Bushice wrote: Some people just stay married because they know that otherwise they will be all alone.

Tell ya' what Bushy. When faced with the choice of heeding the words of somebody posting crap on the internet, or what I believe to be the inspired written word of God, I'll most likely defer to the latter.

But Dude, Bushice is in a cover band.


Betta recognize that feather haired greatness, holmes.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: If tithing was not the first thing listed, he would immediately point to that as the problem.

That's strict biblical doctrine, and anyone who professes to be a true believer should adhere to tithing. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Different religions have different takes on tithing.

Be that as it may, while faith is all well and good, you can't eat it. And if you reproduce, you're no longer responsible only for yourself. Food costs money, a place to live costs money, clothing costs money and medical care costs money. And that's just the bare minimum standard.

If one's budget is so tight that one is unsure of one's ability to pay for those things, perhaps donation to one's church should be cut first. Moreover, Falwell isn't exactly what you'd call a disinterested party when it comes to giving financial advice in that situation.

A Catholicist with faith issues. Color me not shocked.

rozy wrote:A Catholicist with faith issues. Color me not shocked.

i guess that'd be better than a balls-deep felching baptist like you.

rozy wrote: Let 'em have their thread, Bro. Please tell me the reaction here didn't surprise you.

There are some seriously stupid people posting on this board.

rut-roh... rozy is chiming in with some Jack Handy like deep thoughts, and of course not adding a thing to the discussion.

Tell me roz, who tells you what to think?

Do you have anything to offer, or are you just waiting for somebody to rack?

Jsc810 wrote:

Likely pose for an open casket.

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: He would've been hilarious if so many misguided people hadn't taken him so seriously.

And of course, you and the rest of the dipshits in this thread guffawing over his death are imminently qualified and enlightened enough to set those misguided souls on the straight and narrow, right?

Say what you will about the man, at least he wasn't a flaming hypocrit like the Jimmy Swaggerts and Jim Bakers of the evangelical world. He walked the talk.

You have to understand, War Wagon- Falwell made people uncomfortable because he shed light on true problems and told it like it was. Much like how his not supporting homos really makes many people in this thread curl up and cry because....well, you know. This country at this time needs more people out there like Mr. Falwell who aren't afraid to tell the truth without sugar-coating it. RIP and RACK Jerry, a true American hero!

Terry, if you believe in God, and have the understanding that everything you have (tangible and intangible) comes from Him, why on earth would you not give tithe ..... ?

War Wagon wrote:

rozy wrote: Let 'em have their thread, Bro. Please tell me the reaction here didn't surprise you.

There are some seriously stupid people posting on this board.

rut-roh... rozy is chiming in with some Jack Handy like deep thoughts, and of course not adding a thing to the discussion.

Tell me roz, who tells you what to think?

Do you have anything to offer, or are you just waiting for somebody to rack?

Ya know, you're right. Go get 'em tiger...and good luck.

General Peters wrote:

War Wagon wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: He would've been hilarious if so many misguided people hadn't taken him so seriously.

And of course, you and the rest of the dipshits in this thread guffawing over his death are imminently qualified and enlightened enough to set those misguided souls on the straight and narrow, right?

Say what you will about the man, at least he wasn't a flaming hypocrit like the Jimmy Swaggerts and Jim Bakers of the evangelical world. He walked the talk.

You have to understand, War Wagon- Falwell made people uncomfortable because he shed light on true problems and told it like it was. Much like how his not supporting homos really makes many people in this thread curl up and cry because....well, you know. This country at this time needs more people out there like Mr. Falwell who aren't afraid to tell the truth without sugar-coating it. RIP and RACK Jerry, a true American hero!

Wow, Giovanni, I wonder what Mr. Falwell would have thought about your pedophilic tendencies. I’m guessing he would have been cool with your racist rants, though.

The only thing that comes to mind when I hear Falwell is the Hustler decision in the Con Law casebook.

Great to see a bible thumper getting thumped once in a while.......

I have one question for this crowd:

"Who cares?"

Who fucking cares? I believe in that God he claims to know... the same God the Jews here think they know...

Who is this Jerry Fallwell (great last name BTW) that I should give a shit about? He doesn't speak for me, Wags, sure as shit doesn't, and you others that have other beliefs? Well, I don't give a shit what you believe in either. At some point all of us are going to die. Where do you think you are going to go then? Cease to exist? Or do you have a thing called a soul?

Anyone that uses the concept of "God" as a way to condemn and manipulate others when they are themselves "sinners" for selfish and/or political purposes (see the history of the church and popes excommunicating each other) should just STFU. I never liked those assholes and I don't even care that Fallwell is dead. He doesn't speak for me, nor does he speak for anyone else here in this debate.

I don't get into these religious debates because I actually respect other's views on eternity. I could be wrong for my beliefs, but I'm not going to push them on you cocksucking communist heatherns either. Private Joker. Now you DO believe in the Vigin Mary!

Jerry is dead. Tears Jerry... really... bwhahaha Fuck that asshole!

so now he is finding out that all that cultist mythology bullshit he believed in was a lie

War Wagon wrote:

rozy wrote: Let 'em have their thread, Bro. Please tell me the reaction here didn't surprise you.

There are some seriously stupid people posting on this board.

rut-roh... rozy is chiming in with some Jack Handy like deep thoughts, and of course not adding a thing to the discussion.

Tell me roz, who tells you what to think?

Do you have anything to offer, or are you just waiting for somebody to rack?

He's trying to rack you. He's cybering with you, a fellow Falwell fan.

This gets better and better.

poptart wrote:Terry, if you believe in God, and have the understanding that everything you have (tangible and intangible) comes from Him, why on earth would you not give tithe ..... ?

Giving cash to kid touchers ain't exactly like depositing it in a drive thru bank vacuum tube that goes straight to heaven.

I wouldn't give my tithe to a catholic church.

so - tithing to god is only acceptable if it is given to certain acceptable denominational sects?

Oh and this just in - The mormons have some serious kid touchers they protect:

http://www.nowscape.com/atheism/mo_pedophile.htm

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/197 ... ons28.html

http://www.reformation.com/CSA/harwood1.htm


Peeps who live in glass communities...

Atomic Punk wrote:He doesn't speak for me, nor does he speak for anyone else here in this debate.

Not anymore, anyway.

Mister Bushice wrote:so - tithing to god is only acceptable if it is given to certain acceptable denominational sects?

The catholic church is a heresy.

I wouldn't give a penny to them.

poptart wrote:if you believe in God, and have the understanding that everything you have (tangible and intangible) comes from Him, why on earth would you not give tithe ..... ?

Because God has excellent credit, and doesn't really need cash to do what he needs to do.

poptart wrote:I wouldn't give my tithe to a catholic church.

I'm guessing this is because a) you're not Catholic, and/or b) you don't believe in supporting organized pedophelia. These are both good reasons not to tithe the Vatican.

I'm sure you realize that when you tithe, your contribution doesn't go directly into God's money market account, but to those whom you believe are doing God's work here on Earth. And while your belief of what God is and represents is, in all likelihood, significantly different from mine, I'm guessing that our definitions of God's work are pretty much the same, unless yours includes proselytizing. My view of God's work is basically providing relief to those in need of it, irrespective of their beliefs, whether they be victims of Hurricane Katrina, starving Somalis, tsunami survivors, or even mentally challenged KC dwellers. (Yeah, I know I'm being redundant.) Basically, you're giving money that you can afford to do without to those whom you believe will do something with it that supports, in your mind, a worthwhile cause.

But are you doing this only because God allegedly said that you should? If the Bible made no mention of tithing, would you do it (or something equivalent) anyway? What if I or anyone else were to contribute in basically the same manner for essentially the same purposes, only not in the name of God, but rather because, oh, I dunno ... it's simply the right thing to do? Would those contributions be any less righteous or carry any less weight in the eyes of your God than an "official" tithing?

I'm not a Christer, but I've been sponsoring children through the Christian Childrens Fund for about 20 years. I don't do this because God or Sally Struthers told me I should, but because I believe it's a worthwhile cause and it's the right thing to do. I have no problems donating to charities sponsored by Jews or Catholics either, nor with charities that have no religious affiliation, if I'm convinced they're doing, as you might say, God's work.

But I won't tithe. My attitude toward any organized religion is about the same as yours toward the Catholic church.

It's a good post, and I know where you are coming from, Smackie.

People are usually not down with tithing for one of three reasons.

1. The don't believe in Jesus Christ at all
2. They don't trust their church with the money -- in many (or most) cases, I can't blame them for having that distrust
3. They are believers, but lack the faith to tithe

I guess you are #1 .... and of course #2 would follow -- if you happened to go to a church.


Myself, I believe the Bible.
I tithe out of a thankful heart, and out of a desire for souls to be saved.
10% is a start for me, but I fully trust my church.
That's just me.

I can't answer the hypothetical question of whether or not I would give $$ if it wasn't Biblical to do so.
I don't know how that would play out.

poptart wrote: People are usually not down with tithing for one reason. Because they're greedy and selfish.

Fixed!

George Bush adds his condolences:

THE PRESIDENT: Earlier today, Laura and me was deeply saddened to learn that the Reverend Dr. Jerry Falwell has passed on.

http://www.whitehouse.org/

That's true, Wagon.
I would classify greed and selfishness as a lack of faith, but your words are not incorrect either, IMO.