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RumpleForeskin wrote:Horseshit, B.

Granted, Ced Benson had a terrible game against a GREAT defense. I'm sure he'll respond to Sunday's game with more aggression and play to his ability for the most part.

And exactly what game film do you base that on? He runs with no aggression whatsoever. His teammates had him pegged as a pussy two years ago and he's done nothing to change that perception.

Chicago is still deep and once Smith acknowledges that Grossman isn't the guy, then they will be that much better with Greise behind center (did I just say that). Chicago's defense is arguably the best in the league and they will always be in games because of that. Trent Dilfer has a ring. Need I say more?

Trent Dilfer also had Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes in his backfield. Tell me you knew?

Dinsdale wrote:

mvscal wrote:You come in beating your chest after thrashing a team that will be lucky to go 4-12 this year.

A playoff team last year.

A team with no QB

Hmm... Comeback Player of the Year, and the second-most accurate passer in NFL history, with an extremely promising backup.

A QB who completed 76.2% of his attempts yesterday, despite being injured, while connecting for 2 TDs and 0 INTs.

a worse offensive line

Featuring the best young OLineman to come along in many years.

and absolutely no pass rush whatsoever.

Gave up about the same number of passing yards a game last year as the Chargers did.

Don't let facts get in the way Dins. Not to mention the familiarity that the Jets & Pats have with each other tends to keep the games close. mvscal is right and the rest of us are fucking morons. Thats his MO and he is sticking to it!!

Give credit where it's due Mikey? Is that what the bunch of pussies known as the Chargers did last year when the Pats beat them in their own house? No!! It was a bunch of whining about celebrations and not to mention all the "the better team didn't win today" comments.

"Randy will be a locker room cancer"......"He has lost a step"......."All he cares about is himself"..... blah blah blah!! Been nothing but a model citizen here so far. He likes playing with a winning team and a good QB. No reason to think that will change over this season.....

I forgot I was dealing with Chargertard.

Try watching a game someday.

I did... several, in fact.

But in typical Chargertard fashion, you don't refute any particular point... since you can't, due to a multitude of reasons, not the least of which are A) A lack of enough intelligence to do so, which is redundant when the name Chargertard comes up, and B) A complete unfamiliarity with football, which is of course evident from you becoming a Chargertard to begin with.


Were you refuting Pennington's accomplishments?

If so, I'm not sure which part of "second-most accurate passer in NFL history" you missed? Do you need this explained to you in further detail... I mean, after all, you're a Chargertard, and are therefore retarded by definition.

Was it the part where he was honored with the Comeback Player because he recovered enough from injuries to have a superb season?


You say they have "no QB," and were proven wrong with stats.


Not only do they have a QB, they have one that is currently(it's still very early, granted) #2 in the NFL in QB Rating. I think a QB Rating of 130.5 says a fuckload more about his performance than your obviously moronic casual observations. In other words, maybe try "watching a game sometime," but maybe someday, you can actually understand what it is you're watching, since your subjective reasoning has now been proven to be as pathetic as the gang-of-tards you root for.

And the Jets may have the best backup QB in the entire league, but time will tell.



Or, was it the part about the line? If you were to try "watching a game sometime," you'd fully understand that with Brick, the Jets have the best OL to come along in many, many years. Sure, it takes more than one player to make up an OLine, but getting the best in the business is a good start.


A QB who completed 76.2% of his attempts yesterday, despite being injured, while connecting for 2 TDs and 0 INTs.


Or was it the part about the passrush?

The pass rush that last year was enough to equal the pass defense of the Chargers?


Apparently, the Jets don't need much of a passrush to be the equivalent of the "mighty" Charger D.



Damn... you should try watching a game sometime, but maybe get someone who understands football to watch with you, so they can explain the complicated parts, like which QBs are ringing up ratings of 130.5, and which ones that have a career completion % that rank them with the elite in the history of the game. Maybe have them explain how a QB Rating of 73.3 isn't very good, while you're at it.

mvscal wrote:Oh and don't tell me you actually watch games. You don't.

Gee, and I could have sworn I spent the morning in a sports bar that had... oh, EVERY SINGLE NFL game going.


And what a classic Charger (aka "bitch") move -- when the facts of a topic clearly show that you're talking out of a very ignorant ass, you should naturally try and change the topic.

mvscal wrote:You can't fake it here.

Fucking TEARS, Jerry.

You mean "fake it," like saying the second most accurate passer in NFL history is "no QB"?

You mean THAT kind of "faking it"? Or the kind of "faking it" that fails to recognize Brick as the best OLineman to come along in a decade or more(whose man didn't log a sack all of last season)? Or "faking it" like denigrating the pass defense of a team that was every bit the equal of the collection of shitbags you root for, which I'm sure is the standard by which you fucking retards judge defenses?


Someone is "faking it" here... and anyone with the modicum of intelligence it takes to not be Chargerfan can quickly identify that person, I'm sure.

And you think that the Chargers are, were, or will be anything but a punch-line to a whole slew of football jokes.

And this is why you and your ilk are card-carrying tards.


Jeebus, you're such a bitch, maybe we should adopt the Chargertard way of doing things, and start calling you Inkydave or FUBUClown.

mvscal wrote:

Neely8 wrote:mvscal is right and the rest of us are fucking morons.

That's exactly right. You think the Bears are a "shitty NFC team" and he thinks Chad Pennington is an elite quarterback.

That makes you both idiots.

The NFC is like the NL in baseball. While they are in the league they are vastly below the talent of the other. The Western Conference Vs. The Eastern Conference in the NBA for another example.

Is Phillip Rivers an elite QB?

mvscal wrote:There is one stat that matters

0- For- Forever

And after this season, it will be "0 - For- Forever +1."

mvscal wrote:

Is Phillip Rivers an elite QB?

Huh? What the fuck does that have to do with your moronic claim that the Bears are a shitty team?

You aren't REALLY going to call him out for "pulling an mvscal," are you? You know -- changing the subject when you've said something profoundly stupid?

mvscal wrote:

Neely8 wrote:The NFC is like the NL in baseball. While they are in the league they are vastly below the talent of the other. The Western Conference Vs. The Eastern Conference in the NBA for another example.

We aren't talking about the NFC in general. We're talking about the Chicago Bears specifically. If you think they are a "shitty team", you are a fucking idiot. Period. Full Stop.

Is Phillip Rivers an elite QB?

Huh? What the fuck does that have to do with your moronic claim that the Bears are a shitty team?

With Rex Grossman as their QB and Benson as their RB I would label them shitty yes. I doubt they make the playoffs this year. They fattened up their record last year playing 2 games against the Packers, Lions, and Vikings respectively. The Bears got worse in the offseason and all three of those teams got better. They will be lucky to finish second in their division.

For a superior team like the Chargers to have to rely on their RB to run and throw for both their scores is ridiculous.

I asked if your QB is an elite QB because I am trying to judge your rating system as far as how you view Chad Pennington.....

mvscal wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:You know -- changing the subject when you've said something profoundly stupid?

Chad Pennington is a shit quarterback. Nothing stupid or profound about that. It's a simple observation.

He's a stiff with a pop gun arm capable of nothing more than the weakest dink and dunk.

And this has WHAT to do with Rayduh James calling out Chargertard?


Oh, it has nothing to do with it. It was merely pointed out what a motley collection of bitches the Chargers and their retarded fucking fans are, so you mvscaled the subject to something different. And when the statements you make in an attempt to change the subject are pointed out for the stupidity they embody, you try and mvscal the subject again.


But please continue to try and "fake it." It's amusing.

Dinsdale wrote:

mvscal wrote:There is one stat that matters

0- For- Forever

And after this season, it will be "0 - For- Forever +1."

Big RACKS for once again exposing youself as the insipid spamming fucktard you really are. Nothing more than a hater of everything that has anything to do with the Chargers. That's your right but please stop being an asshole and hogging bandwidth with your stupidity.

What does the Chargers' Super Bowl record have to do with this discussion?
I'll answer that for you. Just your lame way of trying to "score points".

When was the last time the Jets won the Super Bowl?
When was the last time the Bears won the Super Bowl?
By your logic that makes the Bears a whole lot better than the Jets this year.
Actually, since the Bears have a lot more NFL champoinships that makes them the far superior team. And the Packers are right at the top. Right?

Fucking moron. Just go home and STFU already. You have absolutely zero credibility here.

Dinsdale wrote:

mvscal wrote:There is one stat that matters

0- For- Forever

And after this season, it will be "0 - For- Forever +1."

RACK



I laughed out loud reading that.

You have the unmitigated nerve to accuse someone ELSE of "spamming," then question their "credibility" after posting THIS?

Mikey wrote:RACK the Bolts for winning a game that was dominated by both defenses, for forcing turnovers and capitalizing on them, and for making fewer mistakes and having a lot more left in the fourth quarter than the opposing team.

In other words, RACK the Bolts for beating the best team in the NFC at their own game.

Even though LT was held in check and Rivers was pretty ineffective about 60% of the time, this was a thoroughly convincing and impressive win, especially for the defense. We'll learn a lot more about this year's team next week.

Holy fucking generic bullshit, Batman.

Step 1 -- select random local hack columnist

Step 2 -- change a few of his words around, while substituting your team name for whichever one was in the article you Pauled.

Step 3 -- make sure to avoid specifics at any and all cost. Make generic statements about "defense." Don't adress any specific part of the "defense"... just say "defense" a lot. Make sure to claim that the QB was "ineffective about 60% of the time" -- even though he completed 71% of his passes... doesn't matter, as long as you pull some random number out of your hat in an attempt to sound "credible."

We'll learn a lot more about this year's team next week

Yeah, thanks for that, Marcus. The last resort of an analyst that didn't watch the game.


Gee, we'll learn more about an NFL team once they've played their second game. How has ESPN not latched on to your superlative, oh-so-credible sports takes? I mean, it's not every day we're treated to such pearls of wisdom as "We'll learn a lot more about this year's team next week" going into Week 2... no siree.

About 300% more substance than anything you've contributed, dipshit.

BTW, I don't get the local paper, so how could I have copied any of the local hacks?

Just because I can say a lot more in 3 or 4 lines you can cram into 15 pages of bullshit doesn't mean that I'm KC Pauling anything.

I see Chargertard is getting beat the fuck down yet again.





Carry on.

'Bout time the board's #1 nutguzzler showed up.

Did you have a nice weekend trying not to notice the smell from your private slough?

Mikey wrote:Just because I can say a lot more in 3 or 4 lines

Like the uber-smart "We'll learn a lot more about this year's team next week"?


You said a whole bunch of moronic bullshit that even Shoalzie would be embarrassed to post.

That was possibly the most watered-down, sorriest excuse for football commenatary I've ever seen. But hey -- at least YOU propped yourself up for it.

Q: So, Mikey, what is the key to the Bolts winning this sunday?

Mikey: Well, Chet, they're going to have to play good football.



Q: Are there any special areas they need to focus on?

Mikey: Well, they're going to have to keep the turnovers down.


Q: Who do you like in tonight's game?

Mikey: Probably the team that scores the most points.


Pure. Unadulterated. Substance.

Yeah, and you're real full of substance. :roll:

Dinsdale wrote:

mvscal wrote:There is one stat that matters

0- For- Forever

And after this season, it will be "0 - For- Forever +1."

Thing is, your substance is usually flushed.

Uhm, tard -- did you happen to notice that "stat" was posted in response to one of your Chargertard ilk's stupidity and subject changing?

Wait, of course you didn't -- because you're a fucking idiot(as evidenced by your football interests.

Matter of fact, I posted stats that were of substance in mvscal's attempt to mvscal the thread. Chargertard, of course, replied with stupidity and vapidity.


You people really are a mess. Your team, your brains, and basically anything you attempt to do becomes a mess. Except of course when it comes to tidying up your trophy case -- it's always in perfect order, and will remain that way forever.

Dinsdale wrote:Were you refuting Pennington's accomplishments?

If so, I'm not sure which part of "second-most accurate passer in NFL history" you missed? Do you need this explained to you in further detail... I mean, after all, you're a Chargertard, and are therefore retarded by definition.

Chad Pennington and his career QB rating of 89.8 ranking as the "second most accurate QB in NFL history" just goes to show that you can prove just about anything you want if you cite just ONE stat.

Dinsdale wrote:Uhm, tard -- did you happen to notice that "stat" was posted in response to one of your Chargertard ilk's stupidity and subject changing?

Wait, of course you didn't -- because you're a fucking idiot(as evidenced by your football interests.

Matter of fact, I posted stats that were of substance in mvscal's attempt to mvscal the thread. Chargertard, of course, replied with stupidity and vapidity.


You people really are a mess. Your team, your brains, and basically anything you attempt to do becomes a mess. Except of course when it comes to tidying up your trophy case -- it's always in perfect order, and will remain that way forever.

Every point I made in my first post was completely legitimate. If you want the game statistics go to NFL.com. If you had actually seen the game, instead of just reading the box score, you'd know it was true. So your only recourse is to make up some bullshit about "substance", because you have nothing left to add except that you don't like Charger fans. Yeah, that's really relevant to yesterday's games. Oh yeah, and substantial too.

Guess what, "substance" is not necessarily equivalent to word count, as you so ably demonstrate in most of your posts. And QB effectiveness isn't necessarily equal to his completion percentage. But you knew that, right? :roll:

Keep on spamming though. I can't wait to see what your next load of shit comprises.

Step 3 -- make sure to avoid specifics at any and all cost. Make generic statements about "defense." Don't adress any specific part of the "defense"... just say "defense" a lot. Make sure to claim that the QB was "ineffective about 60% of the time" -- even though he completed 71% of his passes... doesn't matter, as long as you pull some random number out of your hat in an attempt to sound "credible."

BTW, I don't know if you noticed in your digesting of the stats that Rivers' QB rating in the first half was 44.7. Second half it was 101.2 and 112.5 in the 4th quarter. I still say he was pretty ineffective for about 60% of the game. But you saw that too, right?

Now, GFY.

Mikey wrote:Keep on spamming though.

Don't mind if I do, thanks.

As far as my next load of shit... I think I'll go with...




We'll learn a lot more about this year's team next week.


Defense. Defense. Defense.


Will I appear more intelligent if I type "defense" 800 more times, and then maybe mention how we'll know more about this defensive unit this next week?


Fucking tard.

Dinsdale wrote: Defense. Defense. Defense.

Will I appear more intelligent if I type "defense" 800 more times, and then maybe mention how we'll know more about this defensive unit this next week?

Look how much white space I can put in my posts. That give me a real sense of "substance" don't you think.

I used the word "defense" exactly twice in my original post. But then you can't count, can you.

And, oh, the Charger defense forced 3 fumbles, recovering 2, and had one interception. They allowed the Bears 3.1 avg yard per rush and 4.7 per pass play. Grossman had a 53.7 rating for the day.

One other thing. They allowed 3 points. Did any other team allow fewer yet this week?

Pretty credible defensive performance, IMO. You may think differently but then you are demonstrably full of shit.

This debate would be a whole lot better if Mikey would refer to it as "defence."

Sorry. My teeth are too straight to say defence.

Mikey wrote:They allowed 3 points. Did any other team allow fewer yet this week?

Then again, no other team played against Rex Grossman.

Or Damon Huard. Or Joey Harrington.

Enjoy the win Mikey, but realize it's just one. I don't think anyone can read a whole lot out of that outcome either way, except what everyone already knew. Grossman sucks.

Btw, do you normally post here? :wink:

Yes Wags, because Rex Grossman took on the entire Charger team alone. Did you watch the game or were you at the same dive as dins?

:wink:

RACK this thread!

Carry on ...

The only way for the Charger defence to have had an even respectable game would have been to allow negative points.

Grossman is that bad.

I guess a shutout with a couple of safeties would qualify. Maybe they can do that to the Patsies.