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Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:37 pm
by Dinsdale
Jack wrote: So far from the contributions to this thread, I would add
Britney Spears to the list.

Even though a "contribution" to this thread pointed out that she's still got over 100 mil in the bank.

How does that fit the definition of "losing it all"?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Tonya Harding would fit into this category, if she had reached STARDOM before her stupidity forced her to lose it all.
She qualified for the U.S. Olympic team. If that's not stardom, it's pretty damn close.

She also won the US Figure Skating Championship twice (7 top ten finishes) and placed 2nd in the World Championships. Her list of "firsts" in women's figure skating competitions is staggering.

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:46 pm
by BSmack
Dinsdale wrote:She also won the US Figure Skating Championship twice (7 top ten finishes) and placed 2nd in the World Championships. Her list of "firsts" in women's figure skating competitions is staggering.
Too bad she has even more "firsts" involving the use of hubcaps, meth and tire irons. It's hard to belive that there was a time when Tonya Harding had "upside".

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:20 pm
by Dinsdale
BSmack wrote:It's hard to belive that there was a time when Tonya Harding had "upside".

I'm probably a little more in tune with Tonya's history than most, as she lived up the street from me, but she was America's Freaking Sweetheart for a time.


I'd say she's a frontrunner for "throwing it all away."


The again, her being "America's Sweetheart" was probably destined to be a short-lived thing, regardless. It's hard to spend too much time in the greater Beaverton area without hearing some firsthand outrageous story about Tonya and Jeff. Hell, one of my buddies lived in the apartmenbt next door to them for a while. Psychos. They had a stereo ripped off out of their vehicle, and called the cops. When the popo came, they were sure, without any evidence or cause, that it must have been "those drug dealers next door." (The young men in question weren't dealing any drugs at the time.) Within a couple of weeks of their slanderous allegations to the police, they were knocking on my friend's door, asking of they could score them some weed.


Last time I saw her around here a few years ago, she was with some dude in some hoopdy old Dodge 4X4(not the mid-60's light blue Ford 2WD she drove for ever and ever), which lost a good chunk of the load out of its bed (moving, maybe?) in the intersection. And in these parts, had it been anyone else, traffic would have stopped while everyone helped reload the truck. Tonya didn't get that same courtesy. I laughed.


There's just endless firsthand accounts of their nutcase-doings around here. Living across the river is just so much more appropriate for her. Hell, she blends right in up there in Vantucky.

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:43 pm
by Jack
Dinsdale wrote:
Jack wrote: So far from the contributions to this thread, I would add
Britney Spears to the list.

Even though a "contribution" to this thread pointed out that she's still got over 100 mil in the bank.

How does that fit the definition of "losing it all"?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Tonya Harding would fit into this category, if she had reached STARDOM before her stupidity forced her to lose it all.
She qualified for the U.S. Olympic team. If that's not stardom, it's pretty damn close.

She also won the US Figure Skating Championship twice (7 top ten finishes) and placed 2nd in the World Championships. Her list of "firsts" in women's figure skating competitions is staggering.
Britney lost her kids! Kevin Federfuck will get at least half of all her money. She may not have lost all but once she lost custody of her kids and lost them so publicly...I considered her to be someone who lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Tonya Harding, if you want to put her in this, fine but the Olympics don't = Star status. Name the last gold medal winner for Women's skating without Googling , or any other search, for it.
(Is anyone able to do this?)

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:10 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Jack wrote:Tonya Harding, if you want to put her in this, fine but the Olympics don't = Star status. Name the last gold medal winner for Women's skating without Googling , or any other search, for it.
(Is anyone able to do this?)
Coupla points here:

1. This was a huge news story at the time. In fact, I daresay that if you were to ask the question "name two female figure skaters" to anyone alive and conscious of the events surrounding the '94 Winter Olympics at the time, most people would answer "Nancy Kerrigan" and "Tonya Harding."

2. The Olympics kinda jumped the shark after the decision to stagger the Winter and Summer Games. '94 was the first year where that was in effect, so the jump the shark effect hadn't really come into play yet.

Btw, you haven't addressed OJ, Whitney or Tawny yet.

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:31 pm
by BSmack
Terry in Crapchester wrote:2. The Olympics kinda jumped the shark after the decision to stagger the Winter and Summer Games. '94 was the first year where that was in effect, so the jump the shark effect hadn't really come into play yet.
The Olympics lost me when the networks started pandering full time to housewives who could only be bothered to watch Olympic sports once every 2 years. I could deal with the figure skating/gymnastics and the occasional human interest story back when the networks at least bothered to show medal competition for all the sports. Now the Olympics are nothing more than a two week long skating/gymnastics competition with occasional smatterings of other athletes (almost always American) thrown in.

Not to mention the rampant corruption that has become a hallmark of the "Olympic Movement".

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:20 am
by Jack
Terry,

I do agree that OJ and Whitney fit this category perfectly.

You have argued your point well and Tonya has made the list and you get extra credit for adding a white person to the list.

Who is Tawney? ( I had to look her up... I remember her after looking her up on Wikipedia).

She BLEW what was potential stardom, so she fits this category...
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and if the above became..

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DAMN!! That is wasted talent!!!

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:38 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Jack wrote:Who is Tawney? ( I had to look her up... I remember her after looking her up on Wikipedia).

She BLEW what was potential stardom, so she fits this category...
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I was in question as to whether Tawny qualified as a star. I wasn't sure if a handful of Whitesnake videos and the starring role alongside Tom Hanks in Bachelor Party put her in that category. I had forgotten about America's Funniest People until I checked her Wikipedia entry.
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and if the above became..

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DAMN!! That is wasted talent!!!
As I said, drugs cost Tawny her looks.

I realize that the second photo was taken shortly after she bounced her heel off Chucky's dome, and she probably wasn't looking her best right then (IIRC, somebody posted that mugshot on TOT shortly after the arrest). I also realize that she wasn't in her mid-20's anymore, so she wouldn't look exactly like the Whitesnake videos.

But, she later did a stint on Surreal Life, where she (presumably) had access to makeup. And she didn't look a whole lot better than she did in the mugshot.

Yeah, she's not 20-something anymore, but she didn't exactly age very gracefully either.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:06 pm
by missjo
Smackie Chan wrote:
Believe the Heupel wrote:Wasn't Freddy Mercury Lebanese or some shit?
Indian Parsi. So, yeah, I guess "some shit" is about right.
Persian

& I go offline for a few months &
you lot turn into the bloody national inquirer message board while I'm gone
What the??

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:19 pm
by smackaholic
I gotta call bullshit on this one.

My boy mahkmoud Imadinnerjacket has informed us that no persians are gax.

better go check your facts, honey.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:30 pm
by missjo
Parsee, is a member of the close-knit Zoroastrian community based primarily in India. Most Parsis outside of India identify India as their home country. Parsis are descended from Persian Zoroastrians who emigrated to the Indian subcontinent over 1,000 years ago.

Freddy always used to identify his racial heritage as Persian in interveiws as at the time it was far more palatable to be of Persian than an Indian in Britian at that time

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:09 am
by MgoBlue-LightSpecial
Jack wrote:Tonya Harding, if you want to put her in this, fine but the Olympics don't = Star status.
Huh? What a stupid fucking statement. Your "star status" is dictated by the media. I care more about Go Fish than I do figure skating, but even I can vividly remember the constant newsreel that was Tonya Harding back in those days. And I didn't even try to keep up on her story. It was unavoidable.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:38 am
by Screw_Michigan
missjo wrote:Parsee, is a member of the close-knit Zoroastrian community based primarily in India. Most Parsis outside of India identify India as their home country. Parsis are descended from Persian Zoroastrians who emigrated to the Indian subcontinent over 1,000 years ago.

Freddy always used to identify his racial heritage as Persian in interveiws as at the time it was far more palatable to be of Persian than an Indian in Britian at that time
nobody gives a fuck.

put 'em on the galss.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:17 am
by Mister Bushice
Parsi, Persian, indian, zorastrian?

Lets try "dead homo"

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:22 am
by Jack
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Jack wrote:Tonya Harding, if you want to put her in this, fine but the Olympics don't = Star status.
Huh? What a stupid fucking statement. Your "star status" is dictated by the media. I care more about Go Fish than I do figure skating, but even I can vividly remember the constant newsreel that was Tonya Harding back in those days. And I didn't even try to keep up on her story. It was unavoidable.
If it weren't for that incident, noone would even remember her!

and notice, NOONE can name the last medal winner in Ice Skating.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:52 am
by Mister Bushice
If they conspired to slam a bat into the shin of their competitor we would.

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Or if they created PEZ dispensers out of people, we would.

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Or, say, if they slammed a ton of coke into their grill and went from hottie to nottie we would.

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So fuck off, Jack.

Who gives a shit who won if they didn't cause major bodily harm to themselves or others before or after?

No one remembers except those who care, and most people don't fucking care.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:59 pm
by Dinsdale
Terry in Crapchester wrote:As I said, drugs cost Tawny her looks.

That's your "evidence"?

And you claim to be a lawyer?


Damn, you suck like a hoover with a full bag.


Let's see.... throw up a pic of a hottie-for-the-ages when she's 26, then as slam-dunk "evidence" of the toll drugs have taken on her, throw up an "after" pic when she's 45.


Gee, I wonder how many chicks who were crazy-hot in their 20's don't quite look as good now that they're mid 40's...


hmmmm.....



And as far as "losing it all"... I'm guessing Tawny is doing just fine off the 8000 residual checks she gets every month.

This may come as a suprise, but when a chick's only marketable talent is her ability to produce boners, they usually don't have nearly the star-power once the crest the top of the hill and start pushing 50, after squeezing out a couple of puppies.


Tell me you knew?

Re: Stars that have lost it all due to their own stupididty.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:12 pm
by Dinsdale
Jack wrote:Kevin Federfuck will get at least half of all her money.

It took all of about 10 seconds on google to verify that you, once again, are a dumbfuck.


KFed (I guess you tabloid addicts call him) gets ZERO percentage of Britney's fortune. Did you catch that, Jack? ZERO.


Matter of fact, the child support he will recieve while he has custody of their children A) Doesn't amount to the interest Britney makes off her nest-egg, and B) Will never exceed about 7% of her monthly income(it's adjusted based on her income).


Jack, I suppose your "game" is quite a bit easier if you just make shit up as you go, eh?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:01 pm
by Terry in Crapchester
Dinsdale wrote:
Terry in Crapchester wrote:As I said, drugs cost Tawny her looks.

That's your "evidence"?

And you claim to be a lawyer?


Damn, you suck like a hoover with a full bag.


Let's see.... throw up a pic of a hottie-for-the-ages when she's 26, then as slam-dunk "evidence" of the toll drugs have taken on her, throw up an "after" pic when she's 45.
Coupla points here.

First, my statement that drugs cost Tawny her looks (I made the same statement about Whitney, btw) was what we commonly call an "educated guess." You've heard of that, no?

I didn't expect her to look, at 41, (her age at the time the mug shot in question was taken, if'n I'm not mistaken, which, btw, is not so far from your age today) the same way she did at 26. And I stated that I had made allowances for that. But, then again, when your entire livelihood revolves around your looking hot, you're going to take extra care to continue to look the best you can. Unless, of course, something becomes more important in your life than that.

That's where the drugs/booze come in.

No, she's not going to look at 41 the same way she did at 26. But it is possible to age gracefully, and there are plenty of 41-year-olds who are much hotter than Tawny is today, including many who are not celebrities and were nowhere near as hot as she was at 26. And yeah, like I said, the mugshot was taken at a time when she wasn't exactly looking her best. But a few years later she was on Surreal Life, where she (presumably) had access to makeup and stuff. And she didn't look a whole lot better there than she did in her mugshot.

Say what you will about that mugshot, but she was 41, not 81. That mugshot is proof of some hard living, of one sort or another.
This may come as a suprise, but when a chick's only marketable talent is her ability to produce boners, they usually don't have nearly the star-power once the crest the top of the hill and start pushing 50, after squeezing out a couple of puppies.


Tell me you knew?
She starred in Bachelor Party. She couldn't do that role today in any event, and obviously that movie was never a candidate for an Academy Award. But that was a huge foot in Hollywood's door. Tom Hanks was her co-star, for chrissakes. Jess would probably sell his firstborn kid to gypsies for a speaking role (and before you ask once again, I have no "evidence" of that, that's another of those "educated guesses," combined, in this case, with a little hyperbole for effect). God only knows what he would do for a starring role.

Like I said, she couldn't continue doing those roles forever. What she could do, however, was take acting lessons to improve her acting ability. Again, Tom Hanks was her co-star. We all know where his career went later. Not saying that Tawny could've been the female version of Tom Hanks, but at least she could've improved her acting ability to the point where, maybe, she could've been in a TV sitcom or something. As you stated, she has royalty checks coming in (which probably were a bit healthier then than they are today). She was married twice, once (very briefly) to the lead singer for Whitesnake, then later (a little longer) to a major league pitcher. Both guys made a decent buck. Money wouldn't -- or at least shouldn't -- have been an issue for her when it came to acting lessons.

Hollywood doesn't automatically kick every actress over age 30 to the curb. Tell me you knew? I don't know how smart Tawny is (my educated guess, once again, would be not very), but she certainly had the opportunity to parlay her career into something a little longer-lasting which would depend, as far as looks go, only on her remaining passably attractive, rather than one of the hottest women on the face of the planet. That she failed to do that, when considered in the context of where she wound up, would be enough to land her in this category even if she had never ingested Drug or Drink One in her entire lifetime.

Btw, for someone who claims to be the Stephen Hawking of this board, you certainly need other posters to spoonfeed their entire thought process to you quite often. One would think that someone as bright as you would be a little better at reading between the lines. At least once in awhile.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:15 pm
by Dinsdale
Terry in Crapchester wrote:Unless, of course, something becomes more important in your life than that.

Uhm... like maybe having two children?


That tends to take its toll on the bitches, as well.


Sorry bud, spin it how you like -- your case just got laughed out of court. If you brought that shit to the table as a prosecutor, you'd be disbarred and they'd change your name to Nifong.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:17 pm
by smackaholic
I am guessing that if tawny got as dolled up for a photoshoot as she did spread eagle accross that jag, she'd look a damn site better than she does in a mug shot.

You see, the popo makeup artist dude isn't quite as good as hollywood makeup dude.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:21 pm
by Dinsdale
smackaholic wrote:You see, the popo makeup artist dude isn't quite as good as hollywood makeup dude.

Bullshit, dude.


Terry, Master of Women, says that it's because she popped a few Vicodin back in the 90's.


Who are you to argue?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:42 pm
by BSmack
Tawny did more than "pop a few Vicoodin" during the 90s.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/kitaenrx1.html

She's a walking pharmacy. Winona Ryder thinks she's batshit.