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Felix wrote:

warren wrote:
Look RadioFarce, there are many Christians, such as myself, that can accept evolution

you and the Pope.....

I think he was directing his comments more toward the "God Created the Universe in Six Days" "Noah took ywo of every creature into the Ark" crowd.....

88 wrote:I don't understand how anyone can argue, in good faith, that "Intelligent Design" has some connection to "science". It goes off the rails before it leaves the station. Intelligent Design proposes that something "supernatural" executed a plan to design the natural world. What the fuck kind of scientific theory is that? How do you test supernatural? By definition, something supernatural is beyond testing. And if it cannot be tested, then it is not science.

mvscal wrote:The theories regarding abiogenesis have absolutely nothing to do with evolution.

Felix wrote:

poptart wrote: so, how do you suppose the light from a galaxy that is 13 billion light years away reached earth in 6000 years....

mvscal wrote:

Shoalzie wrote:I feel a lot better about evolution being true than the Big Bang theory.

The big bang isn't a theory. It's a fact. We have observed the remaining traces of that explosion. I suppose you could try to argue that it was simply a big bang rather than The Big Bang if you'd like.

If Christians want to believe that we were all "created", I can live with it. I'm not about to tell other people who might believe something different than I do to not feel or think that way. Just don't force those ideas and beliefs on everyone else. How many other religious in the world like to barge into other people's lives like Christianity?

Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, the idea that an amazing random series of events led to matter becoming life and interacting with its environment is pretty tough to wrap your brain around, due to the sheer scope of the probabilities.

So naturally, "intelligent" people just write that off, and prefer to go with a big man-in-the-sky got bored and started slinging mud and cracking ribs, and assume that millions of species of animals fit in a homemade raft and all lived within walking distance from Noah's house.


Makes perfect sense.

Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, the idea that an amazing random series of events led to matter becoming life and interacting with its environment is pretty tough to wrap your brain around, due to the sheer scope of the probabilities.

mvscal wrote:

RichInFortLee wrote:How does he reconcile his belief in evolution with the empirical evidence available to him?

Empirical evidence confirms evolution, you braindead dipshit.

mvscal wrote:Random mutations do not spontaneously create viable new species, dumbfuck.

Dinsdale wrote:Yeah, the idea that an amazing random series of events led to matter becoming life and interacting with its environment is pretty tough to wrap your brain around, due to the sheer scope of the probabilities.

So naturally, "intelligent" people just write that off, and prefer to go with a big man-in-the-sky got bored and started slinging mud and cracking ribs, and assume that millions of species of animals fit in a homemade raft and all lived within walking distance from Noah's house.


Makes perfect sense.

mvscal wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Most ID advocates say that the spontaneous creation of viable new species is improbable, not that it is flat out impossible.

In other words, ID advocates are some of the most pitifully stupid fuckwits on planet earth. I'll leave it to you to spot the glaring, self-negating contradiction in that sentence if you are able.

mvscal wrote: In other words, ID advocates are some of the most pitifully stupid fuckwits on planet earth. I'll leave it to you to spot the glaring, self-negating contradiction in that sentence if you are able.

Felix wrote:

mvscal wrote: In other words, ID advocates are some of the most pitifully stupid fuckwits on planet earth. I'll leave it to you to spot the glaring, self-negating contradiction in that sentence if you are able.

the entire basis for ID is trying to disprove the theory of evolution rather than trying to "prove" their assertions....anyone that calls that science is ignorant beyond all hope.....

the "classic" ID argument....

"Evolutionists cannot explain exactly how [insert species or organ name here] evolved."

"Therefore, evolution theory cannot explain how it evolved."

"Therefore, it could not have evolved."

Diogenes wrote:
Wrong.

Just that it is unlikly to have evolved spontaneously.

And still no less 'scientific' than the dogma force-fed in our public schools as 'science'.

Felix wrote:

Diogenes wrote:
Wrong.

Just that it is unlikly to have evolved spontaneously.

And still no less 'scientific' than the dogma force-fed in our public schools as 'science'.

then by all means, present your scientific arguments for ID....and regurgitating "life is simply too complex to have evolved" is not a scientific arguement......

mvscal wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Just that it is unlikly to have evolved spontaneously.

There is nothing spontaneous about evolution, idiot. Not that I'm the least bit shocked or surprised to see that you don't know the meaning of either word.

Diogenes wrote: Neither is abiogenesis

Or evolution, for that matter.

It is unverifiable and unfalsifiable dogma.

How about "DNA and RNA are simply too complex to likely have simultaneously and spontaneously evolved and life itself is not likely to have spontaneously evolved from inorganic matter in a viable form"?

warren wrote:Sure there are fundamentalists that believe in that fairy tale, however, the vast majority of Christians look on the old Testament as an archaic way of explaining Creation and a longing for a new belief, just as the Aboriginal Australians think that Ayers rock was a giant that created them, or the many indeginous North American's think the "sky god" or whatever created them.

The vast majority of people believe that Creationism is a viable and even more of a certainty, but it didn't invlolve 6 days on and one day off, and a woman came from the missing rib and temptation was layed upon the hands of a serpent guarding a mango tree.

Dinsdale wrote:

warren wrote:Sure there are fundamentalists that believe in that fairy tale, however, the vast majority of Christians look on the old Testament as an archaic way of explaining Creation and a longing for a new belief, just as the Aboriginal Australians think that Ayers rock was a giant that created them, or the many indeginous North American's think the "sky god" or whatever created them.

The vast majority of people believe that Creationism is a viable and even more of a certainty, but it didn't invlolve 6 days on and one day off, and a woman came from the missing rib and temptation was layed upon the hands of a serpent guarding a mango tree.

So, see if I've got this right...

Diogenes wrote:On the other hand, a dipshit who has to resort to spellcheck 'smack'

Dinsdale wrote:

Diogenes wrote:On the other hand, a dipshit who has to resort to spellcheck 'smack'

Don't like it?

Dinsdale wrote:I see.


The person who can correctly spell a grade-school level word is "clueless," but using the word "differance" countless times makes you a scholar who has a clue.


Gee, hard to figure how you got suckered into letting your life revolve around the persuit of fairy tales... no, really.

Dinsdale wrote:

warren wrote:Sure there are fundamentalists that believe in that fairy tale, however, the vast majority of Christians look on the old Testament as an archaic way of explaining Creation and a longing for a new belief, just as the Aboriginal Australians think that Ayers rock was a giant that created them, or the many indeginous North American's think the "sky god" or whatever created them.

The vast majority of people believe that Creationism is a viable and even more of a certainty, but it didn't invlolve 6 days on and one day off, and a woman came from the missing rib and temptation was layed upon the hands of a serpent guarding a mango tree.

So, see if I've got this right...


You're making a case for Judeo-Christianity...

Give me a minute to digest this...


Your case for God's existence as the grand designer of the universe...

is based on an assumption that the Bible is bullshit "fairy tales."


"Well sure, all those stories in the Bible are complete crap, except the part about how God made the universe."



Props on accomplishing what was previously thought impossible -- making Dipshitgenes almost seem rational and coherent.


Dang, just when you think you've heard it all.


One of us needs to stop getting information from outside sources... I think you're just a little confused which one of us that might be.

warren wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:I see.


The person who can correctly spell a grade-school level word is "clueless," but using the word "differance" countless times makes you a scholar who has a clue.


Gee, hard to figure how you got suckered into letting your life revolve around the persuit of fairy tales... no, really.

I feel so downgraded my about my education, or lack therof, by a guy that uses the term, or terms, "sumpm-sumpm."

You win hands down dumbfuck.

I have come on here and written something that doesn't diminish your beliefs or ethos, yet you are stuck to this board like you lips to a trucker's cock in a Phillips 66 shower room.

Get over it man, I am not trying to convince your foolish ass about anything, I just layed out my personal belief and you and your insecurity have nothing left to offer other than spelling bee smack and my obvious lack of a formal education.

I learned my trade on the fly. I learned trigonometry and geometry and management skills to the point that I make decent money, travel the world over, and am proud to have served my country for pennies on the dollar.

Yet I am fodder for a fucking moron with an African American connected to a piece of pizza on his head as an avatar and zero grasp of the fact that I'm resolute in my belief in a Creator yet also accepting of the way that it occured was not in your X-Box frame of time but yet in a grand design on His time that created not only mankind but a wondrous and miraculous support system of a glorious variety of animal and plant and weather and everything thing it takes to make this world the beautiful sphere that it is.

I don't know your story, nor would I ever want to, but if this is your body of work then I will bet my bottom dollar that you are in for a short, pathetic, close minded, arrogant exitence.

Go fuck yourself pissant bitch and if you want to challenge my IQ in engineering, literature, pussy, or life in general, name the place and time and the parameters.

You are a fucking twat with your flaps down and your tail in the ground.

You can shove the olive branch I offered you on another thread right up your significant others man cannon. Bitch. bring it. I will take some time off tomorrow to see how your math skills match up.

Enjoy your post total and your complete lack of comprehension. I now know why every time I tune into this place you and your forgetfull takes are spreak across the lawn like so much manure, because you lack the ability to comprehend different viewpoints and your fat fucking slim-jim puffing ass couldn't get along with Ghandi.

I'm a man of peace now, but I'd love to stomp your pencil necked ass in to the U&L or whatever flooded shithole you reside in.

War's on bitch, I'm off until after the first, and as long as I keep the cow's fed and the Wife happy I'll have plenty of time to run wits with your punk ass.

warren wrote:Isn't it fucking possible that some of what was written was written to inspire those who were being persecuted on a daily basis to the extent that would make your boyfriends reamed ass seem like a ride on the Magic Mountain at Disneyland?

warren wrote:Isn't it fucking possible that some of what was written was written to inspire those who were being persecuted on a daily basis to the extent that would make your boyfriends reamed ass seem like a ride on the Magic Mountain at Disneyland?

Dinsdale wrote:But don't you find it just at least a little bit suspicious that everyone who has ever promoted said book has also hit the people he's pushing it on for money?

How did you learn about that Creator guy, anyway?

poptart wrote:

Dinsdale wrote:But don't you find it just at least a little bit suspicious that everyone who has ever promoted said book has also hit the people he's pushing it on for money?

false

Mister Bushice wrote:When it comes to those who make preaching their divine call to service, none of them do it totally out of altruism. Everyone, from the doorknob shaker to the pulpit beggar to the TV evangelist is in it to make money either for themselves or for others they work for.

Mister Bushice wrote:So does my cousin, but we don't buy into it from him, either. You're on the wrong track here, pop.

And as usual, Cliffy didn't really make himself clear. Roadkill never does, though.


When it comes to those who make preaching their divine call to service, none of them do it totally out of altruism. Everyone, from the doorknob shaker to the pulpit beggar to the TV evangelist is in it to make money either for themselves or for others they work for.


My great aunt drove the entire family crazy with her constant harping on anyone stupid enough to get too close to pray with her for hours every day. No one wanted to visit her because she was truly relentless. I think her husband died young so he could get some peace in hell. Prayers at 5 am, 90 minute vespers 7 days a week, church visits every day, decade upon decade of Hail Marys, and Novenas that would choke a saint. The woman was a rosary juggernaut.

We would have paid her to stop.


Wicked, tricksy falssse