Big 10 Conference OOC Slate

[King Crimson]

They're better off playing a mid tier BCS school like a Clemson, Texas Tech, South Carolina, UCLA, etc., .

yeah, good luck getting Tech on your/anybody's schedule. Leach makes Bill Snyder look like King Leonidis.

now, Wisconsin-Eau Claire maybe....Leach might bite...in Lubbuck.

[Goober McTuber]

wisco's ooc scheduling is traditionally a joke. that you're hanging your hat on the fresno game illustrates just that.

I believe you’re mistaken. It’s never been top notch, but they’ve generally been willing to mix in at least one decent team.

In the early 80’s they played home-and-homes with BYU and UCLA. BYU was quite good at the time, UCLA was very good. Also, for some reason there were several years in the early 80’s when they played 9 conference games, which only left 2 OOC games.

In the latter 80’s they played home-and-homes with Miami (FL) and Cal. Call was so-so (as always) but Miami was at the top of their game (last J. Johnson team and first Erickson team).

The early 90’s were pathetic, but that’s when Alvarez first took over a team that had won 6 games in 2 years. He gets a pass for teaching his team how to win any games during the early years. I do think Alvarez is most responsible for some of the very weak OOC recent scheduling, however.

Latter 90’s they played home-and-homes a pretty good Stanford team and a very good Colorado team. They also played one of those kickoff classis against a good Syracuse team.

Early part of this century had home-and-homes with Fresno State, West Virginia and Oregon, teams that I would respectively rate as pretty good, pretty good and very good.

The past few years have been particularly bad, I’ll give you that, though as I recall at the time they were scheduled UNC, Hawaii and WSU were all fairly decent teams. We were scheduled to play Va Tech I believe last year and this year, but for some reason those games got moved back about 8 years.

I can tell you that the season ticket holders have been raising a stink about the schedule. They don’t like paying seat licenses and premium ticket prices to see the likes of Cal Poly or the Citadel.

BTW, the last three years Michigan’s schedule has included Eastern Michigan (twice), Northern Illinois, Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, Ball State and Appalachian State.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

They're better off playing a mid tier BCS school like a Clemson, Texas Tech, South Carolina, UCLA, etc., .

yeah, good luck getting Tech on your/anybody's schedule. Leach makes Bill Snyder look like King Leonidis.

now, Wisconsin-Eau Claire maybe....Leach might bite...in Lubbuck.

Yeah...just making a point that you should target mid tier BCS schools over powerhouse sub conf schools.

[buckeye_in_sc]

Why no just throw some top tier BCS schools on your schedule like

Texas
USC
Va Tech
Oklahoma
Tennessee

yes I left off KAL and Miami of FL...we are playing them in the future years as well...

I would like OSU to drop some of the crap and play a top BCS school like they are and schedule a mid tier BCS school like a NC State, Rutgers, etc...

[SoCalTrjn]

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Quick observations:
Let's all take notes, shall we? Here is how you schedule (this means you, SEC and Big Ten): play everyone in your conference and play realistic non-con games. Please, a moment of thanks to the Pac-10 ADs.

I don't think I'm going overboard when I say USC has the best non-con schedule in the nation every season. And you know what? The Trojans — surprise! — are among the top five teams in the nation every year. SEC fan: "We play rough here in the SEC, son. We don't have to play tough non-con schedules." Get over yourselves.

[Goober McTuber]

One other quick observation.

The Pac 10 has 10 teams, therefore playing everyone would be 9 conference games.

The Big 10 has 11 teams, therefore playing everyone would be 10 conference games.

The SEC has 12 teams, therefore playing everyone would be 11 conference games.

[M Club]

BTW, the last three years Michigan’s schedule has included Eastern Michigan (twice), Northern Illinois, Vanderbilt, Central Michigan, Ball State and Appalachian State.

everyone's schedule sucks now, for the most part. the big programs won't go on the road because they don't have to. it's easier to throw your weight around and invite some mac school into your house so you can collect another $5 million + concessions. i'm generally of mgo's opinion that why don't you invite some middling bcs teams in - ole miss, arizona, oklahoma state - and work them over just as easily while getting sos love from the pollsters, but those fuckers are also into scheduling as many home games as possible, and before you know it the mac is raiding the missouri valley conference so they can have at least one ooc home game each. it's gotten to the point where we ogle osu's schedule because it features one bcs heavy, two mac teams, and a di-aa school. meh.

wisco's ooc scheduling was pretty weak even before this became the norm; michigan's was traditionally a lot tougher.

utah definitely might steal one from michigan. as for fresno's run through the wac, uh, yeah. if there's anything unpredictable in sports it's the football league no one pays attention to.

[Goober McTuber]

wisco's ooc scheduling was pretty weak even before this became the norm; michigan's was traditionally a lot tougher.

Well, it should be. You’re fucking Michigan, right?

[Danimal]

They're better off playing a mid tier BCS school like a Clemson, Texas Tech, South Carolina, UCLA, etc., .

yeah, good luck getting Tech on your/anybody's schedule. Leach makes Bill Snyder look like King Leonidis.

now, Wisconsin-Eau Claire maybe....Leach might bite...in Lubbuck.

LOL, my 'skers aren't exactly on a cupcake free diet but TTech is just pathetic. Sticking with the Bill Snyder noncon when you're a consistent winner is ridiculous and IMO something to be ashamed of.

Play SOMEBODY along with the cupcakes.

[PSUFAN]

From what I know, they are still on. I guess that could change, it certainly has changed before. As we've discussed before, that would be a good matchup. Let's hope both teams are strong enough to make a good 2 game series of it.

[SoCalTrjn]

USC has never played a 1AA team, there are only about 6 other schools that can say the same, Notre Dame is one of those schools, I think UCLA is another.

If youre given 4 OOC games a year (all conferences except the Pac 10) why not play 3 or 4 BCS quality opponents and play 2 or so of those OOC games on the road? 1AA schools or schools in the Sun Belt are not going to give a major program a better game than their scout team would, why should they play teams worse than their own second and third strings and why should the NCAA count wins vs that quality of opponent?

[buckeye_in_sc]

^^^^^^^

So Idaho wasn't any better than USC's second or third string...so should we not count that win? KYOA much?

Yeah we know it was a payback game for some coach that used to be at SC...so it has to be the same for everyone douche...

[SoCalTrjn]

1 game every 3 or 4 years vs 3 or 4 games every year

[King Crimson]

what the SEC is to meatgrinding, the Pac 10 is to wholesome virtue and commitment to "competition".

[TheJON]

I'm really going to have to try hard to talk myself into a 5 hour drive to Iowa City this fall to see the first 2 games against Maine and FIU. Unless I get a guaranteed brawl from FIU's coach, I'm not sure I will be attending that game. Probably just watch it on TV. Maine is our opener and I don't believe I've missed an opener in the last 20 years, but no way in fuck am I making that trip. Not worth making a 5 hour trek to see a glorified scrimmage.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The SEC's defending champion, LSU's 2008 schedule:

Appalachian St
Troy
North Texas
@ Auburn
Miss St
@ Florida
@ S. Carolina
Georgia
Tulane
Alabama
Ole Miss
@ Arkansas

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything so daunting about this SEC schedule that it requires this slate of OOC creampuffs. Miss St, Ole Miss, Arky, Alabama, and S. Carolina are bad-to-mediocre teams that aren't impressing anybody outside of the SEC. I guess the Gamecocks would finish in the top 2 of the Pac 10, Big 10, yeah...whatever. Outside of that you've got Auburn, Georgia, and UF as the only real tests...one of which is a team that lost to 2007 lowly Michigan Big Ten team...bwa! It's not bad, but the schedule isn't nearly difficult enough to justify playing those scrubs.

[buckeye_in_sc]

Last week...here in Charlotte on the afternoon radio show...the host and noted SEC HONK (even though he went to clemson)...billy packers kid...

sits there and says without reservation in the SEC you don't get a week off...now...to the SECBALLSUCKINGHOMERBLINDERSONFAN yes that is the case...he even had the gall to say teams like Vandy aren't easy outs...I mean historically...

Vandy
Kentucky
Ole Miss
Miss State

have largely been mediocre to bad...plus South Carolina has had a few good years...but is largely mediocre...hey the top 5 or 6 in this conference are beasts (UGA, UF, LSU, Tenn, Bama - most years)...no doubt about that...

Kentucky having that magical year last year is akin to Indiana or say Minnesota having a good run for 2 or 3 years...the key is sustainability...if Kentucky fizzles out this year then they were a one hit wonder...

look this debate doesn't go away ever...same as in roundball...people think ACC is the nuts...but I agrue Pac 10, SEC, and the 12 are just as good if not better, oh and the Big east...

meh...just killing time I guess until the season starts...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

For the 1 billionth time, nobody is arguing the SEC isn't a tough conference, just that it isn't so daunting that 4 gimme OOC cupcakes are absolutely necessary. Is that point sinking in YET? Jimminy Fucking Cartwheels.

You're all over the place Sam. In one thread you're lambasting SEC scheduling habits and claiming you'd like to see some ballsacks start sprouting. In another, you're justifying playing the Troys and D1AAs of the world.

Ponderous.

[King Crimson]

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I also find it funny that you conveniently conclude Miss St as one of the "tough" opponents in that stretch.

Obviously you'd never lend the same credit to a Purdue, Northwestern, MSU, Illinois, etc., teams like that - teams who are at least on par with, and most certainly above a Miss St.

[Degenerate]

I also find it funny that you conveniently conclude Miss St as one of the "tough" opponents in that stretch.

Consider the source. Do you know how long it's been since Alabama put the ball in the end zone against Mississippi State, much less beat them?

If anything, 'Bama is a breather on MSU's schedule.

[PSUFAN]

:slaver
--Bill Snyder

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Mississippi State should be strong this year. So should Bama. And Spurrier is always scary.

If you want to hype up Miss St, fine, just don't scoff when I talk about Purdue, N'western, Illinois, Penn St., etc.

[SoCalTrjn]

Appalachian St
Troy
North Texas
@ Auburn
Miss St
@ Florida
@ S. Carolina
Georgia
Tulane
Alabama
Ole Miss
@ Arkansas

Okay. I agree there is no excuse to play North Texas or App State (what's up, UM?!).

Troy has knocked off Missouri and Oklahoma State and nearly beat Nebraska, if I remember correctly. Tulane is LSU's homeboy game.

Auburn, MSU, Florida, USC, Georgia, Alabama is not an easy run. No Pac 10 or Big Ten would get thru that without a couple losses. I doubt LSU will escape unscathed. At least two losses there. That's six very difficult conference games. Show me a Big Ten team or a Pac 10 team that plays 6 tough conference games. You can't.

Step back from whatever narcotic you are taking that makes you think there are 6 tough conference games on that schedule, the toughest part about that 6 game run is that it makes up 75% of the teams road games for the season and might even include an over night trip for those kids.
Mississippi State is a total joke, Alabama and Auburn LOST to Mississippi State, Arkansas lost by a combined 120-31 to USC in a home and home and has since lost ALL the talent and the head coach from those lousy teams
That's a 2 game schedule and only 1 of those 2 games is on the road.

[SoCalTrjn]

the issue is chicken shit scheduling and its not an exclusively SEC problem, the ACC is just as famous for it, course most those teams are in the southeast too. Its just a region of cowards I guess.

[Laxplayer]

San Jose State? Hawaii? Syracuse? I guess you'll come up with something like how difficult it's going to be playing a game with jet lag. Or for that matter playing Hawaii while half the team is hungover.

[Adelpiero]

San Jose State? Hawaii? Syracuse? I guess you'll come up with something like how difficult it's going to be playing a game with jet lag. Or for that matter playing Hawaii while half the team is hungover.

or you could schedule all of the service academies and pass them off as quality wins.

[SoCalTrjn]

San Jose State? Hawaii? Syracuse? I guess you'll come up with something like how difficult it's going to be playing a game with jet lag. Or for that matter playing Hawaii while half the team is hungover.

Anyone of those would be better than Neuter Lame has been the last few years. Congrats to the irish for being the "Louisiana Monroe" on USCs schedule

[SoCalTrjn]

the issue is chicken shit scheduling and its not an exclusively SEC problem, the ACC is just as famous for it, course most those teams are in the southeast too. Its just a region of cowards I guess.

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Syracuse? Not to mention half of the Pus 10 teams suck worse than half of the shit teams you speak of. Looks like USC pretty much has everything mapped out for themselves for quite a good while. Face it - you understand how good the SEC is, and has always been. You're doing nothing more than seeking validation for your team. I'd love to see USC in the SEC. You'd finally get a chance to understand the term "grind".

Again - what did the SEC do to fuck up your world so bad?

Funny that none of the Pac 10 teams have been as pathetic against the Trojans as Auburn or Arkansas were in their own houses.

[PSUFAN]

meatgrinding

:swoon

--mfool

[SoCalTrjn]

I dont hate everything southern, I do enjoy your BBQ, Rendezvous in Memphis is my favorite

[The Seer]

Appalachian St
Troy
North Texas
@ Auburn
Miss St
@ Florida
@ S. Carolina
Georgia
Tulane
Alabama
Ole Miss
@ Arkansas

Okay. I agree there is no excuse to play North Texas or App State (what's up, UM?!).

Troy has knocked off Missouri and Oklahoma State and nearly beat Nebraska, if I remember correctly. Tulane is LSU's homeboy game.

Auburn, MSU, Florida, USC, Georgia, Alabama is not an easy run. No Pac 10 or Big Ten would get thru that without a couple losses. I doubt LSU will escape unscathed. At least two losses there. That's six very difficult conference games. Show me a Big Ten team or a Pac 10 team that plays 6 tough conference games. You can't.

Your helmet is too tight.