Is there a finer song ever written

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:34 am

Go steal copper wire from a transformer, you fucking cunt.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:44 am

War Wagon wrote:I smack Screwey's because he seems to delight in running up and down the board being an incredibly annoying assboil... kinda' like Goobs, just not as swift on the uptake.

That's a compliment, right?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:47 pm

alright, off the top of my head, here's 60 seconds worth of songs that are better than Creep:

airbag
climbing up the walls
lucky
let down
electioneering
bulletproof
i might be wrong
fake plastic trees
my iron lung
karma police
knives out
pyramid song
talk show host
true love waits
paranoid android
idioteque
everything in it's right place
kid a
optimistic
sail to the moon
there there
2+2=5
drunken punchup at a wedding
motion picture soundtrack
the bends
bones
street spirit
exit music
no surprises
the national anthem
how to disappear completely
in limbo
packed like sardines
pulk/pull revolving doors
you and whose army?
like spinning plates
where I end and you begin
bodysnatchers
all i need
house of cards

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:24 pm

2 second listing of Led Zeppelin songs better than anything in Radiohead's catalog...

All of them

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:27 pm

BSmack wrote:2 second listing of Led Zeppelin songs better than anything in Radiohead's catalog...

All of them

Are they still around? Didn't think so. Quit living in the past. Now go fuck yourself.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:57 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
BSmack wrote:2 second listing of Led Zeppelin songs better than anything in Radiohead's catalog...

All of them
Are they still around? Didn't think so. Quit living in the past. Now go fuck yourself.

A little Q&A for you.

All of the Radiohead songs you listed were recorded?

1. In the future
2. In the present
3. In the past

Do you even bother to think before you hit submit?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:08 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote: Are they still around?

Neither are Mozart or Beethoven yet they still get quite a bit of run.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:57 pm

War Wagon wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote: Are they still around?
Neither are Mozart or Beethoven yet they still get quite a bit of run.

Don't be stuck in the past now. All the really cool records were done in the future.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:28 pm

If you compare all music to the alleged greatness of Zeppelin, then everything would fail. I'm glad I'm not a couple of jaded, narrow-minded dipshits like you two hemmoraging twats.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:45 pm

Is there even the slightest chance your juvenile mind could grasp discussing a point of contention w/o going to the vapid "go fuck yourself, cunt" or any of it's variants?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:52 am

And btw...

Goober McTuber wrote: That's a compliment, right?

Yeah, it was.

Don't let it go to your cheesehead.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:19 am

War Wagon wrote:And btw...

Goober McTuber wrote: That's a compliment, right?
Yeah, it was.

Don't let it go to your cheesehead.

I'll just stack it up with all the rest.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:26 am

Two flyover tards slapping the shit out of each other with their labias trying to get 'BODE. Bwahaha. You can't make this shit up.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:39 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Two flyover tards slapping the shit out of each other with their labias trying to get 'BODE. Bwahaha. You can't make this shit up.

Didn’t you just spend 6 or 8 or however many years attending Kalamazoo Tech and working in the Midwest? Then you up and move to THE worst shithole on the east coast (if not the entire free world), and you want to run “flyover” smack? Shut the fuck up and get your mop. That jizz ain’t gonna clean itself up.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:38 pm

How's that -3 degrees working out in God's Cuntry, Gobbles? Didn't you guys get three feet of snow over the weekend, too? No big surprise nobody wants to live in your God-forsaken shithole. Get fucked.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:14 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:How's that -3 degrees working out in God's Cuntry, Gobbles? Didn't you guys get three feet of snow over the weekend, too?

Thanks for your concern, Screwball. We got 8 inches of snow Thursday-Friday, no big deal. I’m sure you regularly get 8 inches, it’s just not snow.

It actually got to -8° this morning. No place for weather-pussies like you. But consistently selected as one of the top 10 places to live. As opposed to DC, which is one of the top 10 places to die. Merry Christmas and a Happy Go Fuck Yourself.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:57 am

Maybe not the finest ever written, but lately I've been big on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNpaaPHENE

Not sure they've ever been mentioned here, but I get this strange feeling that PSU used to worship these guys...

Who I saw a couple of weeks ago. Possibly the tightest sounding band I've even seen in a club.

Mr. Wakeling, who is still a badass at age 52, shredding his signature cover tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doyqWt9Ed1k

Dave Wakeling brought ska to the White Man. RACK him for that.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:49 am

Dinsdale wrote:Maybe not the finest ever written, but lately I've been big on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTNpaaPHENE

Not sure they've ever been mentioned here, but I get this strange feeling that PSU used to worship these guys...

Who I saw a couple of weeks ago. Possibly the tightest sounding band I've even seen in a club.

Mr. Wakeling, who is still a badass at age 52, shredding his signature cover tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doyqWt9Ed1k

Dave Wakeling brought ska to the White Man. RACK him for that.

we had an English Beat thing on here a while ago. Wakeling and the EB or the Specials "to the white man"--though the Brixton punk/ska thing was a natural blue collar marriage and was reborn in the DC "hardcore" scene of the early 80's with Bad Brains and to a lesser extent Minor Threat.

i used to know (and this is how i know we did this on the board, because i remember bringing this up) this english dude Paul from Brixton in the 90's (Boulder) who was in his early 30's then but used to go see the Specials and Beat and wore the suits and skinny ties 'inna day' (i saw the pics). he was a cool dude. rode motorcycles and ended marrying this chick Ann from Atlanta who was into me first....she had (to paraphrase captain beefheart) eyes that were a blue million miles. probably a big strike out on my part, all things being equal.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:56 pm

Dins and KC, since you both mentioned Dave Wakeling and the EB, I'm sure you must be familiar with General Public, the split-off band he did with Ranking Roger. I never liked the group as much as the Beat, but still thought that a couple of their songs were a solid continuation of their previous work.

Thoughts?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:45 pm

I think it's similar to just about every band's deal with Wakeling and RR -- they came along with something fresh and original, rode it through their meteoric rise to fame...

And have been sliding down the slope ever since.

Don't get me wrong -- the EB show I saw a couple of weeks ago was as good as a club show gets, bar none. But it was still pretty much a golden oldies deal.

BTW-the dude singing claimed to have been with the EB since he "could walk." Between songs, someone kinda screamed out "are you or are you not RR's son?" He heard them, and ignored the question... was kinda strange. Also strange was being in such a crazy, very boisterous crowd that was essentailly all over the age of 35. Which was my second old-fart tear-the-place-down drunkfest show this year.

RACK my generation for not forgetting how to party.

But how the mighty have fallen... at one time, Wakeling was certainly one of the best known musicians in the world. Now...

My Not-So-Little-Woman (EB diehard) sends him e-mails asking about tours and whatnot... and he answers them. When you answer all of your e-mails, you ain't quite the international celebrity you once were.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:53 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Not sure they've ever been mentioned here, but I get this strange feeling that PSU used to worship these guys...

Speaking of...

PSU has mentioned another band...

Poison Idea did a reunion last weekend.

I took a pass... but it's not the same band without Pig anyway.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:47 pm

And while Madness definitely bubble gummed up the ska of the era and mainstreamed it, I dug the shit out of them as a kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEdZrV0j6zM

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:41 pm

one step beyond i can still dig. as for General Public.....i saw them open for Elvis Costello (maybe) and i don't remember too much about it except that MTV song "tenderness" which is not working too hard to be "ska" or waking ghosts of either the groove or the early 80's recession complaint of "Stand Down Margaret".

this sounds like a harsh comparison, but hear me out. GP always reminded me of a respected or successful "group" getting back together after their initial pre-"music video era" (what they were known for) re-inventing themselves for the new medium designed to drive sales success once MTV got big to get some of that new cheese.

like Asia as to prog rock vets like Greg Wetton or Steve Howe. the Yes LP 90125 is very much that kind of thing. it's not a bad LP at all, but it was driven by the Owner of a Lonely Heart vid more than a bigtime revival of Yes fans globally. Style Council for the Jam's Paul Weller, that kind of thing. Big Audio Dynamite, maybe. Public Image Ltd. though i like some of that PiL stuff. the boxset is kinda cool.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:24 pm

I strongly agree, KC.

I think many of the younger folk don't realize the devastating æffect MTV had on music in the early 80's. Flash and glam became much more important than good music, and ugly people were no longer given record contracts, regardless of talent.

Dr. Theopolis did a song about such things.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:48 am

I've been giving Fleet Foxes some closer listens. Still not sold on all the hype, but pretty decent stuff.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:50 am

Dins, you talk too much.

Just enjoy having fun now and then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1VQpH_y ... re=related

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:33 pm

King Crimson wrote:one step beyond i can still dig. as for General Public.....i saw them open for Elvis Costello (maybe) and i don't remember too much about it except that MTV song "tenderness" which is not working too hard to be "ska" or waking ghosts of either the groove or the early 80's recession complaint of "Stand Down Margaret".

Like Dins, I agree wholeheartedly with this statement, and the "æffect" about MTV and the '80's. While I sort of like the songs "Never You Done That" and "Tenderness", you could tell Wakeling was catering to a changing audience. Funny you mention ghosts in that sentence, as the line 'whisting in the graveyard' is in "Tenderness". How appropriate. Trying to stay upbeat in different or difficult times.

like Asia as to prog rock vets like Greg Wetton or Steve Howe. the Yes LP 90125 is very much that kind of thing. it's not a bad LP at all, but it was driven by the Owner of a Lonely Heart vid more than a bigtime revival of Yes fans globally. Style Council for the Jam's Paul Weller, that kind of thing. Big Audio Dynamite, maybe. Public Image Ltd. though i like some of that PiL stuff. the boxset is kinda cool.

Also spot on. The group or artist that stands out the most here being Paul Weller. I saw the Jam live once as an opening act, without much knowledge at the time as to who they were. Kind of liked 'em, but they were worlds away from the band who headlined. I never really saw how the punk-influenced Weller went from that sound in the Jam to the Style Council, about as pop-sounding as it got. Not bad, but not the same.

The band who opened that night for the Jam was one of my all-time favorite groups that nobody talks about anymore. Be Bop Deluxe. Sort of a fusion of prog-rock and glam, with straight ahead hard rock mixed in. The front man and song writer was Bill Nelson, an exceptional guitarist with a distinctive sound and style. I tried to follow his career post Be Bop, but his forays into experimental synthesized instrumentals got to be too much and too boring. A damn shame he didn't follow his earlier muse.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:36 pm

MGO (same applies to Screwey)...

Have you ever considered, at any point, posting some sort of musical selection that doesn't have the entire world convinced that you're completely tone-deaf? Or at minimum, some sort of track that doesn't scream "MGO likes to suck anonymous penises at rest stops"?

Seriously... please don't fucking do that again.

And on a true serious note -- both you and SM would be pretty well served to take a fucking class at community college or wherever in Western Musical Theory... which would put you light years ahead of any of these acts you pimp. You'd then be somewhat equipped to realize just how technically bad the shit you listen to really is...

Might bring your house-of-cards you built to suck dick in crashing down around you... but at least it would improve the T1B music forum.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:55 am

These guys could kick "Fleet Foxes" ass anytime they wanted.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:56 am

Bwa

Rack Dins.

Kids these days... maybe it's their way of rebelling, and I'm ok with that. But Jeebus, isn't there anything new out there that doesn't suck horse cocks? Don't say Cold Play.

Like, get with some Weezer or something you musically inept morons.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:28 am

War Wagon wrote:But Jeebus, isn't there anything new out there that doesn't suck horse cocks? Don't say Cold Play.

Arcade Fire? The Decemberists? Mars Volta? Porcupine Tree? Cat Power?

There's just a few off the top of my head that have released material within the last year that definitely do not suck.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:49 am

Dinsdale wrote:Mr. Wakeling, who is still a badass at age 52, shredding his signature cover tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doyqWt9Ed1k

Dave Wakeling brought ska to the White Man. RACK him for that.

Good call. Used to play "Mirror in the Bathroom" and "Save It for Later" quite a bit at the Santa Barbara station where I worked. Wakeling used to play around town often; I think he lived in the area then (still might). The studio version of "Tears of a Clown" is badass with its staccato guitar - tough song to fuck up. I have Wha'ppen? on vinyl; "I Am Your Flag" kicks serious ass.

Great flashbacks with that post.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:05 am

King Crimson wrote: like Asia as to prog rock vets like Greg Wetton or Steve Howe. the Yes LP 90125 is very much that kind of thing. it's not a bad LP at all, but it was driven by the Owner of a Lonely Heart vid more than a bigtime revival of Yes fans globally.

Yes fans still exist, as well as ELP?

Lordy. In.

Dins mentioned something about "technical" prowess. I'm not sure it gets any better than Long Distance Runaround... I could've put the 3:25 moment on in my "Great Bass riffs" thread.

The Yes album Fragile, at that time, may have only been surpassed by ELP's Pictures at an Exhibition, depending on the mood you were in and how many joints you had smoked. Just classic stuff.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:55 am

Screwed and MGO will just be amazed at this. Like two cans hooked together with a string would seem to some new age punk using a Blackberry.

Lucky Man

Believe it or not, those old turntables with a diamond stylus could deliver some awesome sound quality that would rival anything today.

Keith Emerson was a maestro. I love the way he and the band borrowed liberally from the likes of Aaron Copeland, among others. Or as stated in Ecclesiastes... there is nothing new under the sun.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:51 am

Dinsdale wrote:MGO (same applies to Screwey)...

Have you ever considered, at any point, posting some sort of musical selection that doesn't have the entire world convinced that you're completely tone-deaf? Or at minimum, some sort of track that doesn't scream "MGO likes to suck anonymous penises at rest stops"?

Has it ever occurred to you that I think your music sucks the crust off a bulldog's asshole? (that goes for most of you classic rockHeads) Seriously:

Darius Rucker...Death Cab...The Dead...Iron fucking Maiden?

Good fucking lord..."technically bad?" What a pretentious little twit you are. I'd rather listen to the sounds of RumpleWife's vaginal walls reverberating than the tiresome masturbatory guitar solos you pimp; you know, that are just sooooooo technical and awesome.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:01 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote: I'd rather listen to the sounds of RumpleWife's vaginal walls reverberating...

"I'm sorry. You'll have to book at least 8 months in advance with our Engineering Dept. Currently, Ford Motor techs are renting our facilities for wind tunnel testing of '10 model F-150's."

Sincerely, RumpleLab Industries - Cavernous Expanse Division.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:33 pm

BTW -- if War Wagon is agreeing with you on ANYTHING music, beverage, or entertainment related, your tastes are in serious red flag territory. You need to look into some hardcore memory erasing drugs and just start fresh. Dins, I'm sure you've got a "buddy" who can assist you with that. Anyway, the guy is a walking, breathing American stereotype, slurping prodigious doses of Americana from all angles. Corporate America gets these dumbfucks on the hook at a very early age, and they stay on that line until the day they die.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:40 pm

Fuck me...I went to quote Dinsdale's post and accidentally deleted it. Here's a c&p though:

There's actually a reason Jack White's two bands* pile up Grammy Awards like they're going out of style.

Not that I give much of a shit what the Grammy folks say, but in Jack's case(s), they got it right.

* - That would be The White Stripes and The Raconteurs, Whitey. Fucking excellent bands, and they do something the alt-rock world doesn't always embrace... they have a unique sound.

But I'm sure the Faggot Contingent will even pile-on their homeboy, for the simple reason he has high-level musicianship, and other people have heard of him (and have decorated him for his work).

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:43 pm

Folks, mark your calendar...

12/31/08...

The day that MGO suggested that agreeing with someone not named MGO implied poor musical taste.

Classic.

Only thing that could have made it better would have been SM on his heels racking him for it.

Frankly, attaching a panty pic of himself wouldn't have been any more self-abusive.

Laughing pretty hard over here.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:44 pm

By the way:

The White Stripes

BWAHAHAHAHA! You're bagging on me about technical proficiency and just one post later cite the White Stripes? The White Stripes represent about everything it is you allegedly hate about music today, and the industry that goes along with it. And if you're going with the "technical" stance on what it is that makes good music, at least be consistent with your argument, and the examples you provide. Holy lord.

The White Stripes, by the way, are easily the most overrated band of the last 10-15 years. Making three chord rock sound "catchy" is about as difficult as KC Paul making a second round at the Hometown Buffet.

I don't totally hate the White Stripes, btw. I listened to "Elephant" about 10 times before I got bored to tears with it and moved onto something with some actual substance.