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Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:14 pm
by Dinsdale
Mister Bushice wrote:They convinced one small town up there to let them drill, promising they would be "Invisible".

Uhm, yeah. The decision to drill lies entirely with small municipalities, and not the State of Alaska.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:15 pm
by Mister Bushice
They've only dug one test well, capped it and said nothing about their findings.

outside of guesses, the only real way to know the volume IS by drilling, other wise they wouldn't have to send drilling ships out to see to hunt for oil.

The real problem they have to deal with is the environmental impact. every time they've been close to opening up anwr for exploration, some major spill has occurred and nixed it.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:18 pm
by Mister Bushice
Dinsdale wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote:They convinced one small town up there to let them drill, promising they would be "Invisible".

Uhm, yeah. The decision to drill lies entirely with small municipalities, and not the State of Alaska.
Not on tribal land they don't

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:22 pm
by Dinsdale
Mister Bushice wrote:outside of guesses, the only real way to know the volume IS by drilling


Google the term "petroleum geology" and shut up... and not neccesarily in that order.

They've been able to estimate petroleum reseviors with some degree of accuracy for like 80 years, dumbass.

Might wanna familiarize yourself with "sedimentology," and "seismic geology" and all of those other technologies that have been around for decades and decades.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:15 pm
by Mister Bushice
They interviewed one of the big shots from chevron. He said, and I quote "We're having to look for oil in places we never used to. This deep water test well being drilled has a 1 in 5 chance of success"

I think I'll choose a chevron execs words over what you two clowns theorize.

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"Samsung Heavy Industries' latest drill ship, West Polaris. Demand is so high for drill ships that builders have raised prices as much as $100 million per vessel since last year."

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:27 pm
by Sirfindafold
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Although this particular drilling vessel only costs a couple of bucks at the local hardware store, it seems a few participants in this thread were nice enough to give Buschice one for free.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:30 pm
by Mister Bushice
and yet, according to them, they still only have a 20% chance of hitting what they have "researched" and "analyzed" and "estimated"

They have a paleontologist, a geologist, and a full lab on the ship, and they do soil analysis for every 30 feet of drilling, for 8-10 hours a day.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:22 am
by smackaholic
Mister Bushice wrote: The Prudhoe Bay fields and the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline have suffered an average of 400 spills annually on the North Slope since 1995, a total of 1.5 million gallons.
Wonder why they didn't use the usual unit of measure for large quantities of oil, barrels. I'll tell you why. Because it is a piddling little amount. I've probably spilled that much working on cars in the driveway.

We are talking about a big ass pipe that extends many hundreds of miles and carries countless million BARRELS of oil in that same period. And guess what, the fukking place doesn't look like new jersey and the fukkning caribou don't mind it a bit. Actually, they use the fukking heat it gives off as a fukking nursery for lil' caribou.

Re: Consensus?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:29 am
by Mister Bushice
smackaholic wrote:
Mister Bushice wrote: The Prudhoe Bay fields and the Trans-Alaskan Pipeline have suffered an average of 400 spills annually on the North Slope since 1995, a total of 1.5 million gallons.
Wonder why they didn't use the usual unit of measure for large quantities of oil, barrels. I'll tell you why. Because it is a piddling little amount. I've probably spilled that much working on cars in the driveway.
It ain't the amount, it's the event. Look at what 3 mile island did to the nuclear power plant construction industry. Along with the environmentalists it helped bring it to a screeching halt, and NOTHING OF CONSEQUENCE happened at 3 mile island. No radiation leak, no deaths.

So you couple those 400 spills per year with the exxon valdez accident and you've got a lot of people resistant to allowing any further exploration. Cut that number down and you'll see action.

We are talking about a big ass pipe that extends many hundreds of miles and carries countless million BARRELS of oil in that same period. And guess what, the fukking place doesn't look like new jersey and the fukkning caribou don't mind it a bit. Actually, they use the fukking heat it gives off as a fukking nursery for lil' caribou.
That is about the dumbest thing you've ever posted.