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Terry wrote:Ohio has a pink border, therefore, Ohio is leaning McCain's way.

My bad, Terry, sorry about that.

I gave a quick glance and assumed it was still showing Ohio leaning Obama's way.


No sig bet on the overall election.
I just don't care to support either candidate and I am not fully confident in a McCain victory anyway.
But I DO think he's going to win ... very close.

I'd put a sig bet on Ohio going McCain's way though.
Think it's almost certainly gonna go that way.

There's no sense in giving any credence to polls two weeks before election day, much less 2-3 months.

McCain will win.

JayDuck wrote:consistantly (there's that word again)

Yes, I see. At least you're consistent in its misspelling.

I try to minimize spelling smack, but this one begged for it.

Smackie Chan wrote:There's no sense in giving any credence to polls two weeks before election day, much less 2-3 months.

Agreed, but then you come back with

Smackie Chan wrote:McCain will win.

How do you say that with such certainty 2 1/2 months before the election?

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Smackie Chan wrote:There's no sense in giving any credence to polls two weeks before election day, much less 2-3 months.

Agreed, but then you come back with

Smackie Chan wrote:McCain will win.

How do you say that with such certainty 2 1/2 months before the election?

Not based on polls, but more a gut feeling. The polls will fluctuate, probably greatly, between now and election day. But in the end, McCain will win.

mvscal wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote: Among states where the lead is >/= 5%, Obama leads the electoral vote by 250-176. That puts him only 20 electoral votes away from an electoral majority.

For the moment, there are 11 states within 4%. Those states (with electoral votes in parentheses) are:

Florida (27)
Ohio (20)
North Carolina (15)
Virginia (13)
Minnesota (10)
Colorado (9)
Nevada (5)
New Hampshire (4)
Montana (3)
North Dakota (3)
South Dakota (3)

He won't carry any of those states.

He might get Minnesota.

Smackie Chan wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:

Smackie Chan wrote:There's no sense in giving any credence to polls two weeks before election day, much less 2-3 months.

Agreed, but then you come back with

Smackie Chan wrote:McCain will win.

How do you say that with such certainty 2 1/2 months before the election?

Not based on polls, but more a gut feeling. The polls will fluctuate, probably greatly, between now and election day. But in the end, McCain will win.

I tend to think Obama will win myself, although I acknowledge the possibility that I could be wrong on that.

That having been said, if the media were covering McCain's missteps as throughly as Obama's, this might be a laugher by now. First there was McCain's admission that he knows nothing about economics. Then there was his statement that you're not rich unless you earn at least $5 million a year. Then his statement that he doesn't know how many homes he and his wife own. What's next?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_ ... ain_houses" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Then there was his statement that you're not rich unless you earn at least $5 million a year.

Funny, when he jokingly made that statement, he knew idiots like yourself would run with it.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Strictly at random, there are 2,048 possible scenarios for those states, assuming that Obama or McCain will win all of them. If my math is correct, there are 1,964 scenarios in which Obama wins an Electoral College majority, 74 scenarios in which McCain wins an Electoral College majority, and 10 scenarios which result in an Electoral College tie, thereby throwing the election into the House of Representatives (which would likely work to Obama's advantage this year). Granted, this model is purely random on a state-by-state basis, and therefore doesn't consider the probability of each candidate winning a particular state. But even after that's factored in, given the overwhelming advantage Obama has on the random model, I'd have to believe that the likelihood of him winning the general election, at least at this point, is > 50%.

Somebody is jonsin' for the CFB/BCS season to start.

Sirfindafold wrote:

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Then there was his statement that you're not rich unless you earn at least $5 million a year.

Funny, when he jokingly made that statement, he knew idiots like yourself would run with it.

Was he joking also when he said he couldn't remember how many houses he owns? When he started sporting 550 dollar shoes? When he rewrote campaign finance legislation to allow him to use his wife's corporate jet for campaign uses without paying charter costs?

Go fuck yourself.

How anyone can support one of these extreme douchebags over another is beyond me.


At this point, the "lesser-of-evils" would be hiding in the basement for the next 4 years.

Either one will take an oath to uphold the Constitution, then immediately break that oath the second they walk through the Oval Office door... although Barrydouche has a slightly better track record in upholding the Constitution, his socialist health-care plan negates anything else he may stand for. Other side of the coin -- I'm not sure McShame has ever actually read the Constitution.



You people are asshats.

BSmack wrote:Was he joking also . . . When he started sporting 550 dollar shoes?

In a supermarket, no less. Joke's on sirfindamvscal and those of his ilk. They believe Obama's the clueless elitist, when in reality it's McCain.

Nobody's making that part of Obama's campaign. In fact, his (potentially) fatal flaw as a candidate is that he refuses to attack McCain.

I was just pointing out the incredible, and unintentional, irony coming from your side, 's'all.

Terry in Crapchester wrote:I was just pointing out the incredible, and unintentional, irony coming from your side, 's'all.

I rarely speak for others...


But have you actually read any of mvscal's posts in the last few months?


To claim he's on McShame's "side" is asinine. He's well on record as being part of MY side... ain't no lesser of evils here... only baaaaaaad candidates.

I see BarryO as the slightly lesser of evils, but only due to his shorter resume of corruption... although given more time, I'm sure he can give the reigning Champion of DC Corruption a run for his dirty money. I believe mvbscal sees things slightly the other way. But he can eplain his standpoint himself... again.

libs are melting like a motherfucker

good for a laugh.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:Was he joking also when he said he couldn't remember how many houses he owns?

Who gives a fuck? Cindy is the businessman in the family.

So who's going to manage the business of the White House?

I'll bet that McCain's properties weren't purchased in dubious transactions with convicted felons.

Keating 5 anyone?

I'm guessing the Onogga campaign isn't going to be too keen to discuss real estate deals.

Nope, they're going to talk about what a clueless fuckwad he is.

rueters recent poll

mccain with a 5 point lead i think everyone knew this was going to happen sooner or later. After JM announced his 1 term plan(or is announcing), Hillary and her gang are going to jump all over that and get JM in the White House. She wont wait to run in 2016.


i guess the bumper sticker plan isnt working. "want a change, vote democrat".

Adelpiero wrote:rueters recent poll

mccain with a 5 point lead i think everyone knew this was going to happen sooner or later. After JM announced his 1 term plan(or is announcing), Hillary and her gang are going to jump all over that and get JM in the White House. She wont wait to run in 2016.

i guess the bumper sticker plan isnt working. "want a change, vote democrat".

Please God, let McCain announce his own political castration. A 1 term plan?

JayDuck wrote:

War Wagon wrote:

mvscal wrote:The fact that he is an empty suit with no sincerely held convictions isn't exactly breaking news to anybody who has been paying any attention at all to his act.

Now wait just a damn minute. It's pretty damn apparent that he's sincerely convinced he's already been appointed President. George Cloony told him so.

I'd say it looks more like the GOP tried to appoint him President when they trotted out John McCain as their candidate.

They knew they were going to be going up against a Black guy, or a Woman and that it would take a seriously incompetent candidate not to be able to muster up enough support to keep one of them out of the White House.

In John McCain, they've got just the guy who might do it.

Of course the GOP figured him to be the "appointed" President or they wouldn't have nominated him, dumbass.

They are referring to the fact that Obama has attempted to tour the world as the de' facto Pres. and many comments made by he and his wife about the decorative aspects of the Whitehouse have been made privy, such as ridding it of the redneck bowling alley and replacing it with P-diddy-sean-diddy-combs-diddy's permanent residence indocate that dude think's he has it in the bag.

Obama has pulled out race, the amount of homes owned, and every other dirty trick, so to the game is on.

Obitty has so many skeleton's in the crackroom, errr closet that when it's on, he's over. Middle America don't go for no smack dealing, non-legal-resident in the White-Hizzouse.

He is not a legal resident and he lacks everything that it takes to run a Radio Shack, much less America.

WTF do you mean Obama's not a legal resident? He's a native born US citizen. EOS.

mvscal wrote:

BSmack wrote:WTF do you mean Obama's not a legal resident? He's a native born US citizen. EOS.

Yes, I'm sure that must explain the forged birth certificate on his website.

Why would he have to forge a birth certificate? Even if he were born out of country (which he wasn't), he is a native born US citizen by virtue of his American mother. But by all means, go ahead and find Barack Obama's naturalization papers you fucking retard. They'll be right next to my deed for the Brooklyn Bridge.

Too bad for you that factcheck.org has already blown Berg's arguments out of the water.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html

mvscal wrote:Too bad for you the lawsuit is filed in a US District Court not Factcheck.org (an Annenberg funded mouthpiece for Onogga).

And the lawsuit will be laughed out of a US District Court.

BTW: The website factcheck.org has been around since well before Obama starting running for President. They're hardly an Obama mouthpiece. And if you think they are, you've obviously had your head up 88's ass recently.

Mvscal, what are you, on dope?

Biden is a statesman ... with sound judgement.

poptart wrote:Biden is a statesman ... with sound judgement.

And if it comes out after the election that the Senator from Kenya actually was born there and registered in Hawaii...

The next president.


Except for the fact that they're going to lose in November, of course.