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Props to JON on the pick. If you can't count on anything else in life, you can always count on Law of Averages.

Both qbs looked rough, but I think Threet is their guy. At least until he melts down and it's Sheridan's turn again...

Not an unbearable loss by any stretch. The dissapointment for me is that the D took the first half off. I thought 23 points would have won this game.

The offense obviously needs a lot of work. Some plays looked absolutely pony league. The int at the end of the first half was brutal and the early 3rd q fumble was hard to watch. But they stayed the course and the defense got them back into the game. They showed some heart late in the game. The D was on the field too much, yet gained strength as the game went on.

Oh well, better get us this year bitches!

Go Blue!

As a Buckeye fan I hate Meesschegan. As a Big Ten fan I hate to see the loss. M is definitely a work in pogress right now. R-Rod needs some time with this team and he needs his recruits. I'm in no position to kick anyone when their down. Buckeyes had their time in the late 80's early 90's. Things can turn quickly. I'll be rooting for the ugly M&Blue for the next couple weeks especially against ND.

Thank GOD Pryor didn't go to M.

the defense was pretty pathetic the first half but it looked schematic. at least shafer demonstrated a willingness to make adjustments. i'm not used to that. our outside linebackers are jokes.

this will be uglier than i thought. sheridan looks in over his head and threet won't throw it unless the defense somehow forgets about a receiver and lets him run free. the line was feeble as well and didn't perform well even in the schemes you'd expect them to be familiar with from playing for carr.

threet looks like he actually has upside. sheridan looks like he should start an im team and forget about the big time. carlos brown shouldn't wear gloves when he's sent in to play qb.

RR had an adjustment season at WV and with all the inexperience he is going to have one at Mich. Not being realistic to think otherwise. But they'll do big things once all that talent gets on the same page. Looked a lot better than ATM anyway. The ND-game should be very interesting.

A couple of things....

Reffing was cheating. That much is obvious. 45 yards of penalties on 3 bullshit calls led to 16 of Michigan's 23 points. I think Michigan fan would even agree to that. Or at least I would hope they would. This is why I hate Big-10 refs.

Utah is a mental nutjob. One of the biggest meltdowns I've ever seen a team have and still WIN!

Michigan's offense is just god awful. The RB's looked confused, the WR's couldn't get open, both QB's (except for 2 passes the entire game) were pathetic, and the O-line got bitchslapped quite often.

Defensively, I thought Michigan really imposed some physical toughness on Utah in the 2nd half, but I also think a lot of their 2nd half success had as much to do with Utah just flat out going in the tank.

The ABC announcers were fucking retarded and I couldn't figure out what damn game they were watching. Kept saying good things about Sheridan even though he was the worst QB I've ever seen. Never seen a shittier deep ball.

Neither team deserved to win. Utah made literally 15-20 mistakes in that game and Michigan had points handed to them by the refs on questionable calls that would never go against Michigan. I said the only way Michigan would have even a punchers chance was if Utah completely imploded. Well, Utah imploded and Michigan still lost. What's going to happen when teams don't just hand games to Michigan? How are they going to win? I can tell you this, unless they're playing a completely inept football team like Ball State they sure as fuck aren't gonna win on their own.

Props to JON on the pick. If you can't count on anything else in life, you can always count on Law of Averages.

It's either the Law of Averages or maybe I've seen enough football to know that teams like Michigan are almost always shitty. Watch some football, you'll catch on.

Yes, I'm surprised, and props to JON for finally hitting a prediction.

Ya know, Jsc, the funny thing about that is it's about the 800th time on these boards I've seen someone say that. Amazing how everyone forgets the games I get right yet only focuses on the ones I get wrong!

I'll rack Jon for doing the homework and having the unmitigated gall to make predictions in the first place.

This guy is a fucking HUGE sportsfan lucky enough to have too much time on his hands and I have zero problem with that.

Roll on, Jon.

This guy is a fucking HUGE sportsfan lucky enough to have too much time on his hands

That's what being self employed will do for you!!!

Jsc810 wrote:Well to be fair, you have had some "amazing" weeks. Didn't you start off the year by going 0-10 or something like that?

In any event, props, you called that one.

Yeah, I think I went 0-8 or something like that once. But that's against the spread. I can't fucking win a damn game against the spread. Heck, I'm thrilled beyond belief I pulled a 3-3 week in my Pick 6 league this week. That's about as good as it ever gets for me. I can't get a backdoor cover to save my life, but I get a million of them to go against me. Frustrating!

TheJON wrote: Reffing was cheating. That much is obvious.

ah, your m.o. what were those b.s. calls?

Michigan's offense is just god awful. The RB's looked confused, the WR's couldn't get open, both QB's (except for 2 passes the entire game) were pathetic, and the O-line got bitchslapped quite often.

wird.

Defensively, I thought Michigan really imposed some physical toughness on Utah in the 2nd half, but I also think a lot of their 2nd half success had as much to do with Utah just flat out going in the tank.

i think the defense was just stronger than utah at the end, a promising sign. also, sprockets figured out he has above-average corners he doesn't need waste in the hermann zone.

The ABC announcers were fucking retarded and I couldn't figure out what damn game they were watching. Kept saying good things about Sheridan even though he was the worst QB I've ever seen. Never seen a shittier deep ball.

i commented on this numerous times throughout the game as well. threet sucked too, but he was much better than sheridan, though yeah, the announcer went on and on about how impressive sheridan started while threet looked entirely too nervous. i hate the way they make everything fit their narrative. like how dickrod has "overhauled" the culture at michigan. they stuck four bullet points on the cryon, two of which said "bought new weightlifting equipment" and "will hand ball to ref." controversy.

...questionable calls that would never go against Michigan.

you obviously don't watch as much football as you'd like for us to believe.

proppers for the pick, eh.

TheJON wrote:It's either the Law of Averages or maybe I've seen enough football to know that teams like Michigan are almost always shitty.

This game could've gone either way. I'm sticking with Law of Averages.

Watch some football, you'll catch on.

I'm going to hold you to your own logic. When you get your next one wrong, will it mean you HAVEN'T watched a lot of college football?

This game could've gone either way. I'm sticking with Law of Averages.

Could have gone either way? If you watched the game you would know that score was the most misleading score ever. That wasn't a 2 point game, I hate to tell ya.

ah, your m.o. what were those b.s. calls?

Let's see here if I can remember the exact ones. The field goal UM got. Late hit out of bounds was a joke. Guys momentum carries him into the UM player and he barely even nudged him. That play led to the FG. The PI call after the interception on Michigan's opening drive. Come on now, that was a horrible call. And the PI call on 3rd down that gave Michigan a new set of downs with 1st and goal (just before the McGuffie TD run). The WR was not only out of bounds but the ball was not catchable. On top of that, the DB didn't do anything. How can you have pass interference when the WR was ineligible for going out of bounds? The fact is the only reason Michigan scored was because of Utah turnovers and penalties. They did not sustain one single drive the entire game.

they stuck four bullet points on the cryon, two of which said "bought new weightlifting equipment" and "will hand ball to ref." controversy.

I caught that too. Yeah, I'm sure Lloyd didn't have his players lift weights......

TheJON wrote:Let's see here if I can remember the exact ones. The field goal UM got. Late hit out of bounds was a joke. Guys momentum carries him into the UM player and he barely even nudged him. That play led to the FG. The PI call after the interception on Michigan's opening drive. Come on now, that was a horrible call. And the PI call on 3rd down that gave Michigan a new set of downs with 1st and goal (just before the McGuffie TD run). The WR was not only out of bounds but the ball was not catchable. On top of that, the DB didn't do anything. How can you have pass interference when the WR was ineligible for going out of bounds? The fact is the only reason Michigan scored was because of Utah turnovers and penalties. They did not sustain one single drive the entire game.

1. momentum didn't cause the utah player to hit shaw[?] considering the play had been whistled dead 15 yards earlier.

2. sheridan was bailed out by that call, yeah, but triple coverage is only effective if one of you hasn't put a saddle on the receiver. i distinctly remember calling it pi before they even threw the flag.

3. it may have occurred to you that the receiver was out of bounds because the utah defender once again saddled up and took him for a ride. if you watched much football you'd realize that's often considered pass interference.

all those calls were legit. we can talk about minor's fumble if you'd like, though.

I disagree with that, but it doesn't matter. The real issue here is the fact that Michigan needed penalties and an EPIC meltdown by Utah to score on any drive in this game.

Who is starting next week? Threet or Sheridan? I can't imagine DickRod wants to sit through another game with Sheridan at QB. I think you throw Threet out there and let him take a beating and see how he responds. Ball State (or is it Miami of Ohio?) next week should be a win, so maybe that gives him some confidence.

But the major concern with Threet is can he run that kind of system? I thought Michigan's gameplan was terrible yesterday. It almost looked like he was calling plays straight out of an EA Spots game. Just started launching balls down the field with QB's that can't make those throws consistently. Short passing game would have been more effective? Not saying they would have won, but I think the offense would performed better if they would have called plays that would have given their QB's a better chance at being successful. Your offense reminds me a lot of Iowa in 1999. We were terrible and our QB's sucked but in the last few games we just switched to a Texas Tech style of offense and started racking up 400+ yards a game because that was all we could do with crappy RB's, QB's that can't throw the deep ball, and a bad O-line. Sure we still lost, but that was because the defense was the worst in the conference. I think Michigan needs to do something similar to that. You just don't have the players right now to run the system he wants to run right now.

TheJON wrote:I disagree with that, but it doesn't matter. The real issue here is the fact that Michigan needed penalties and an EPIC meltdown by Utah to score on any drive in this game.

All you need to know is that Michigan's three TD drives were 26, 33 and 31 yards and they only went 17 yards to get their field goal. They took advantage of opportunities given to them but they didn't show they can create offense on their own...ie--drive the length of the field.

It's also going to be culture shock to see a Michigan running game go for only 36 yards on 23 carries...gone are the days of the Steve Hutchinson/Jake Long road-graters. This is a much smaller offensive line and I think a lot of their offensive success this year will rest on them protecting either QB. Neither guy can really move all that well and if any team is able to tee off on them, none of RichRod's cute plays will work.

This team is pretty much doomed in 3rd-and-long situations...they went 3-for-14 on third down yesterday.

This team is pretty much doomed in 3rd-and-long situations

That's exactly why I think they need to go to more of a short passing game type offense. Limits the amount of 3rd and long's you'll have. Might not be a great red zone offense but what else can you do?

UM's running game doesn't look too promising either. McGuffie is fast, but looks pretty weak. He'll have to gain quite a bit of strength if he wishes to run through tackles. Otherwise the O-line is going to have to do a stellar job of opening holes for him.