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Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:02 pm
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:The part that got my attention...
Education is the civil rights issue of this century. Equal access to public education has been gained. But what is the value of access to a failing school? We need to shake up failed school bureaucracies with competition, empower parents with choice, remove barriers to qualified instructors, attract and reward good teachers and help bad teachers find another line of work.
No. We need to scrap Federal* Public funding of K-12.
*A union of groups or states in which each member agrees to give up some of its governmental powers in certain specified areas to central authority. Read: National and State gov.
Nice try though Mcloon.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:10 pm
by Moving Sale
Don't hold your breath.
No! Wait. Do!
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:48 pm
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:The part that got my attention...
Education is the civil rights issue of this century. Equal access to public education has been gained. But what is the value of access to a failing school? We need to shake up failed school bureaucracies with competition, empower parents with choice, remove barriers to qualified instructors, attract and reward good teachers and help bad teachers find another line of work.
No. We need to scrap Federal* Public funding of K-12.
That would be terrific. Of course since nobody from either party is going to do so anytime soon, having the funds go to benefit children and parents instead of unions and bereaucrats would seem to be the next best thing.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:49 pm
by Felix
Mikey wrote:
Don't forget that he's a Mavrick too.
ftfy
/s/
the dumb fuck at the RNC that doesn't know how to spell
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:25 pm
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:
That would be terrific.
Then quit starting threads about how someone who just said the opposite of that did "far better than ... expected."
Fucking tard.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:34 pm
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
That would be terrific.
Then quit starting threads about how someone who just said the opposite of that did "far better than ... expected.
Fuck off, moron. Reform isn't the opposite of wishful thinking, and is preferable to the status quo.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:42 pm
by BSmack
mvscal wrote:Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
That would be terrific.
Then quit starting threads about how someone who just said the opposite of that did "far better than ... expected."
Fucking tard.
Not only far better than expected, but
Excelent even.
If the intended effect was for McCain to act a cure for insomnia, then I have to say...

Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:48 pm
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:
Reform ... is preferable to the status quo.
Way to sell out.
Carry on you brain-dead fucktard.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:53 pm
by War Wagon
BSmack wrote:I can't believe I watched the whole thing. I should at least get a Bronze Star for enduring that kind of torture.
Me either.
Even I'm not that big a sucker for punishment.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:42 pm
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
Reform ... is preferable to the status quo.
Way to sell out.
Trying to see that lower income families can send their kids to decent schools is 'selling out'?
STFU, moron.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:42 pm
by Mikey
Sudden Sam wrote:
Didn't see any of McCain's speech. Saw a little of the video bio.
Yeah, I missed it too. Last night I was out doing "community service" which, apparently, the Repugnitans are all in favor of on Tuesdays,
but sneer at on Wednesdays.
Really, I wish I could figure out the schedule that these guys keep. Fiscal responsibility on Mondays and record deficits on Thursdays?
Abstinence on Sundays but knock up every 17 year old in town on Fridays?
:?
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:46 pm
by Diogenes
Mikey wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
Didn't see any of McCain's speech. Saw a little of the video bio.
Yeah, I missed it too. Last night I was out doing "community service" which, apparently, the Republicans are all in favor of on Tuesdays, but sneer at on Wednesdays.
Actually we're in favor of it. It just isn't a qualification to be CinC.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:49 pm
by LTS TRN 2
Dio/babs/cuda, get it straight. McBush speaks a curious brand of Orwellian inversion. Contrary to helping Americans, he wants only to maintain the demented policies of such proven hacks as Reagan and Greenspan, et al, who have pedaled the noxious "trickle down" theory for the last twenty-plus years. McBush is a total corporate whore, a classic Beltway insider, a war mongering simplistic tool of the Military Industrial Congressional Complex.
As for Brood Mare, this bitch is basically Cheney with tits.
The notion that this palsied ticket represents "change" is certainly the most Orwellian of their bizarre facades.
But you knew that.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:50 pm
by BSmack
Diogenes wrote:Mikey wrote:Sudden Sam wrote:
Didn't see any of McCain's speech. Saw a little of the video bio.
Yeah, I missed it too. Last night I was out doing "community service" which, apparently, the Republicans are all in favor of on Tuesdays, but sneer at on Wednesdays.
Actually we're in favor of it. It just isn't a qualification to be CinC.
Neither is getting shot down. But that doesn't stop McCain from using 10 minutes of his acceptance speech describing his stay in Hanoi.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:54 pm
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:
Trying to see that lower income families can send their kids to decent schools is 'selling out'?
So you DO believe in Federal funding for K-12.
Make up for fucking mind you spamming fucko.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:57 pm
by Mikey
BSmack wrote:
Neither is getting shot down. But that doesn't stop McCain from using 10 minutes of his acceptance speech describing his stay in Hanoi.
Don't forget that he's a Maverick.
sin,

Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:01 pm
by Tom In VA
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:07 pm
by Mikey
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:07 pm
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
Trying to see that lower income families can send their kids to decent schools is 'selling out'?
So you DO believe in Federal funding for K-12.
GFY, dipshit.
Why do you hate poor people and kids?
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:08 pm
by Tom In VA
http://www.usvetdsp.com/aug08/mccain_unfit.htm
Former Congressmen Warn Troops: As Senator He Abandoned American POWs Trapped in Indochina; as President He'll Abandon You
Special to the U.S. Veteran Dispatch
By former U.S. Congressmen Bill Hendon (R-NC)
and John LeBoutillier (R-NY)
August 16, 2008
"He [McCain] has told me several times over the years that the myth of live POWs was a cruel hoax on the families. He chaired hearings into the issue in the 1990s and found nothing. 'The committee … pored over thousands of records and every claim of a sighting, no matter how outlandish,' says Salter. 'It was all untrue.'" Jonathan Alter, When Ross Perot Calls..., Newsweek.com January 16, 2008
Senator John McCain's heroic and inspiring wartime service in Vietnam notwithstanding, we know from personal experience he is not fit to serve as Commander-in-Chief of America's armed forces. Here is how we know this:
In mid-summer 1991, the U.S. Senate created the Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs and charged it with conducting a no-holds-barred investigation into the long-festering matter of American POWs reportedly still held captive by the Communist North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao. On the day the legislation creating the Select Committee was passed, August 2, a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll conducted nationwide showed that 69% of Americans surveyed believed that Americans were still held captive in Southeast Asia and 75% believed the U.S. government wasn't doing enough to get them home.
Following months of negotiations between the committee and a very reluctant George H. W. Bush administration, committee intelligence investigators were finally able to obtain the postwar intelligence files relating to live POWs. Committee investigators spent some 2,700 man hours vetting, analyzing and crosschecking the postwar intelligence. They found it a textbook blend of human intelligence (HUMINT); intercepts of secret enemy radio traffic (SIGINT), and images taken by unmanned reconnaissance drones and U.S. spy satellites (IMINT). The committee's intelligence investigators told the senators that collectively the intelligence indicated the North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao had held back hundreds of POWs at Operation Homecoming in 1973 and that many were still alive in captivity during the late 1980's and early 1990's.
By the time committee investigators finally began briefing the senators in secret sessions in early spring, 1992, the issue of live POWs had become, as McCain later described it, "white hot;" this not only because of intense public interest in the plight of the POWs, but also because Texas businessman and longtime POW advocate H. Ross Perot had entered the presidential race, and had done so amid press accounts that he thought President Bush was not doing enough to bring the POWs home. By late May Perot was in first place in the national polls, ahead of President Bush, who was in second place, and the presumptive Democratic nominee, Governor Bill Clinton, who was in third. What would the committee find? Might a ruling that 69% of the American people were right and that, in fact, there were live POWs still held half a world away throw the election to Perot? How could it not?
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:09 pm
by Tom In VA
Mikey wrote:
Why do you hate America?
I didn't hate him, he was an entertaining troll for awhile.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:21 pm
by Tom In VA
Well, he's probably right NOW.
Not so sure about the 70's and 80's though.
Apparently there's KGB accounts of U.S. prisoners being sent to Moscow and such, it's all pretty fucking twisted. Executions, the whole bit.
I'm almost hoping he loses so we can have Duncan Hunter '12.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:39 am
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:
Why do you hate poor people and kids?
Keep stroking Mcloon's liberal cock.
What's next? I bet he is for Social Security. And how about his stand on art1sec8? I bet he thinks it applies to wheat grown and sold intrastate because it is "[regulating] Commerce ... among the several States."
Flail on tardboy.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:17 am
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:Diogenes wrote:
Why do you hate poor people and kids?
Keep stroking Mcloon's liberal cock.
What's next? I bet he is for Social Security. And how about his stand on art1sec8? I bet he thinks it applies to wheat grown and sold intrastate because it is "[regulating] Commerce ... among the several States."
Shouldn't you be passing out Ron Paul for President pamphlets at the local mall or something?
The fact that the 21st century is beyond your comprehension is your problem, loser.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:45 am
by Moving Sale
Diogenes wrote:The fact that the 21st century is beyond your comprehension is your problem, loser.
So the Constitution is pre-911 thinking?
Nice try you liberal fucktard.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:27 am
by Terry in Crapchester
mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:this bitch is basically Cheney with tits.
Sure hate it for Plugs then. He's going to get worked like heavy bag.
I laughed. Hard.
The Republicans don't want a televised vice-presidential debate. If that happens, Biden will dice her up, without even losing his smile, and without Palin even knowing what happened.
As for Palin, Nish had it right, not Nicky. She's Dan Quayle with tits, not Cheney with tits.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:29 am
by Diogenes
Moving Sale wrote:
Thanks for alleviating my insomnia, you tedious twat.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:33 am
by Diogenes
Terry in Crapchester wrote:mvscal wrote:LTS TRN 2 wrote:this bitch is basically Cheney with tits.
Sure hate it for Plugs then. He's going to get worked like heavy bag.
The Republicans don't want a televised vice-presidential debate. If that happens, Biden will dice her up, without even losing his smile, and without Palin even knowing what happened.
That's what Murkowski thought.
Palin is going to rip him to shreads. And the only one's afraid of debates are The Empty Suit and his handlers. They had to veto the prospect of any town hall style debates because they can't answer tough questions from actual voters, just softballs from leftwing media types.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:24 am
by Diego in Seattle
Murkowski got toasted by Binkley in that primary as well. That primary was more about getting rid of Murkowski than embracing Palin.
And considering that a couple of weeks before being picked she couldn't come up with her own opinion on Iraq, it's going to be her that's going to be looking like Quayle Part Duh.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:26 am
by Diego in Seattle
Diogenes wrote:Moving Sale wrote:
Thanks for alleviating my insomnia, you tedious twat.
"Hypocrisy for $1 Billion, Alex."
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:30 pm
by Smackie Chan
Diego in Seattle wrote:Diogenes wrote:Moving Sale wrote:
Thanks for alleviating my insomnia, you tedious twat.
"Irony for $1 Billion, Alex."
Fixed.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:19 pm
by Nishlord
Diogenes wrote:
Palin is going to rip him to shreads.
Seriously - did you actually
see her speech, or was it re-enacted to you by Cuda and Wags at your last pyjama party? She was like a stumbling four year-old being pushed into singing her ABCs at a thanksgiving dinner, while the rest of the table cheers her every word. It was
horrific.
I doubt she'll be able to outduel a broken Furby in a debate.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:12 pm
by Diogenes
Nishlord wrote:Diogenes wrote:
Palin is going to rip him to shreads.
Seriously - did you actually
see her speech...
Yes. Of course I didn't know at the time that she was speaking from memory and improvising (the part about pitbulls and hockey moms wasn't in the text, neither is the line about Obamessiah 'parting the seas and curing the planet')because of the teleprompter malfunctioning.
That's okay. The more you losers and the twits in the media think that Slow Joe actually can keep up with her, the better she'll look when she bitchslaps him back into the last century.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:14 pm
by smackaholic
No idea how she will do in the debate arena. Unlike the rest of you fukkers, I don't have a crystal ball.
Nish is right about 1 thing, sort of. The speech was tough to watch, but not because of her. It was tough to watch because of 3 bazillion partisan hacks deciding she needed a standing ovation ever other syllable.
Polls do this at every fukking speech, dems or reps, it does not matter. Just once, I'd like to see them stfu and let someone talk.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:30 pm
by LTS TRN 2
It was a shallow and bitchy excuse for a speech. It was in fact written by a Bush speechwriter who had met her for the first time only a week before. Because of her galling lack of experinece and knowledge of any actual national issues, she will NOT BE TAKING ANY QUESTIONS from any members of the press before the election. She is now reduced to repeating verbatim the same tired cliches and platitudes prepared for her at the convention. Pathetic.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:56 pm
by Diogenes
LTS TRN 2 wrote:Because of her galling lack of experinece and knowledge of any actual national issues, she will NOT BE TAKING ANY QUESTIONS from any members of the press before the election.
Wanna bet?
If she is interviewed by the press before the end of the month, you stop posting until after the election.
If not, I will.
Put up or shut up, nutcase.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:03 pm
by LTS TRN 2
How about if she hires three more lawyers to deal with the MOVED UP date of the Troopergate investigation, you will admit that you are a total fraud.
The announcement of her not taking qustions was announced by the RNC yesterday. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they desperately do whatever they can--even if that means directly contradicting themselves. They are, after all, the party of Rove--shameless liars, swift-boaters, etc. That's what they are.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:21 pm
by Diogenes
LTS TRN 2 wrote:
Diogenes wrote:Put up or shut up, nutcase.
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:22 pm
by Tom In VA
Who among the two major parties running for president isn't a shameless liar LTS ?
Re: McCain's RNC speech
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:01 pm
by KC Scott
I'll rack Rudy for not invoking the name of imaginary friends.
When I took one of those on line polls as to what candidate best shared my view - Rudy was top choice
Too bad he knew zilch about campaigning