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So...you guys are, like, melting in your fear and twisting angst?

Okay, relax, I'll throw a few BP meatballs for your medi/edification:

88, besides a ringing demonstration of the democratic ideals upon which this nation was founded--and to which it stands--the honest election of Barak Hussein Obama will pretty much guarantee that the next four or so Supreme Court justices will NOT be lunatic Zio/Christers.....


"That's right, Opie, then she wanted to outlaw Halloween...but she lost, and it came out the kid was her lil' daughter's..."


Wagoner, I think you mean whom am I, but never mind. Where would we be without you? Well, probably better in general...

Seer, get thee to an optician, because like the flaming homo hyper-texting engineer, you really don't understand what's going on...how it's led to this..

The Seer wrote:Carter WAS without any doubt whatsoever, truly, undeniably, certifiably, the worst president in the history of the United States.

You’re absolutely spot on capitalizing WAS. Because George W. Bush IS without any doubt whatsoever, truly, undeniably, certifiably, the worst president in the history of the United States

mvscal wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:

The Seer wrote:Carter WAS without any doubt whatsoever, truly, undeniably, certifiably, the worst president in the history of the United States.

You’re absolutely spot on capitalizing WAS. Because George W. Bush IS without any doubt whatsoever, truly, undeniably, certifiably, the worst president in the history of the United States

Total bullshit. The economy right now is booming compared the Carter years.

It's not just the economy, stupid.

Goober McTuber wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:You’re absolutely spot on capitalizing WAS. Because George W. Bush IS without any doubt whatsoever, truly, undeniably, certifiably, the worst president in the history of the United States

Total bullshit. The economy right now is booming compared the Carter years.

It's not just the economy, stupid.

Also, the rules for counting number of unemployed have been changed since the Carter years. We no longer count those no longer "actively" seeking employment as unemployed. Now they're just forgotten.

And don't get me started on how measuring inflation is nothing more than an accountant's version of 3 Card Monte. Let's just say that the people feeding us economic indicators learned from the Carter era how to successfully mute bad news as long as possible. So don't buy mv's bullshit about how the economy was so much worse under Carter unless he can account for that comparison using comprabale statistics.

BTW, Carter couldn't hold a candle to Buchannan, Peirce, Filmore, Nixon, Ford, Harding or Coolidge in the worst President race whereas Dubya has lapped the field.

BSmack wrote: BTW, Carter couldn't hold a candle to Buchannan, Peirce, Filmore, Nixon, Ford, Harding or Coolidge in the worst President race whereas Dubya has lapped the field.

IF you were alive and lived through the Carter years, and STILL would make a comment like that, I guess it's a good thing that you came out of your coma.

Carter's contribution to presidential legacies is about on par with that of John Wilkes Booth....

mvscal wrote:How much time have spent in line waiting to buy gasoline...on the odd day it happens to be available?

Have you seen the news from Atlanta? And we're talking about 3 full years after Katrina. So don't give me any bullshit about how nobody could have expected shortages after a hurricane.

Oh, look at mv puff his chest like he's BMOC around these parts. Honestly you would be hysterical mv if you weren't so sad.

Here's a but a few examples of Bush's legacy. I seriously don't have the time right now to try to think of them all.

4000+ dead in Iraq for no good reason
2008 Economic Meltdown
911
Katrina
Abu Graib/Gitmo torture
The "Patriot" Act
Color coded terror threat indicators
"Axis of Evil"
Record budget deficits
Lowest approval ratings ever
Politicizing the Justice Department

And this isn't the worst President ever?

:doh:

Damn, you're gullible, 88.

88 wrote: 4000+ dead in Iraq for no good reason. I think the reason was good enough based on the shitty information available.

The "available information" was written by ONE PERSON... who didn't work for any intelligence agency of any country at the time. The US government had a verification process... The DIRECTOR OF THE FUCKING CIA said it was bullshit. The ambassador they sent to verify it said it was bullshit. They CHOSE "shitty information" over what our own people had to say.

How can you lay 911 at Bush's feet? Clinton gutted the intelligence services. The AQ plan was set into motion during the Clinton presidency. Again, Bush was the unfortunate benefactor of prior failures.

Richard Clarke, former chief counterterrorism advisor, wrote:Clarke told the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States last week that Bush and his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, ignored al-Qaida before the attacks. He said his access to senior officials was cut off by the new Bush administration, which he said did not consider terrorism to be an “urgent problem.” In contrast, he said, the Clinton administration gave the terrorist threat its “highest priority.”

The "Patriot" Act. What is wrong with that? Please explain.

James Fucking Madison, et al wrote:The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

You know... that set of rules said officials SWORE to uphold?

mvscal wrote:

Goober McTuber wrote:It's not just the economy, stupid.

Shut the fuck up, idiot. Jesus Christ.

Don't even talk to me, moron.

You dittochoads are cracking me up. You're the idiots who voted this clown in for 2 terms. Now live with the legacy.

BSmack wrote:You dittochoads are cracking me up. You're the idiots who voted this clown in for 2 terms. Now live with the legacy.

You two-party choads are cracking me up. You support one set of rats over another, when every last one of them is a despicable traitor.

BSmack wrote:4000+ dead in Iraq for no good reason
2008 Economic Meltdown
911
Katrina
Abu Graib/Gitmo torture
The "Patriot" Act
Color coded terror threat indicators
"Axis of Evil"
Record budget deficits
Lowest approval ratings ever
Politicizing the Justice Department

And this isn't the worst President ever?

If there is a list of Prez Bush failures, ... failure to secure United States borders ... belongs at the top of the list.

When it became blatantly obvious that the illegal flood had become a financial, social, and potential SECURITY, nightmare, he had an obligation to the American people to take action.

He failed MISERABLY, and imo, DELIBERATELY.

If there was a reason to impeach GW Bush, that's it.


Hang the fucker.

mvscal wrote:

Color coded terror threat indicators

Dumb idea, but hardly the stuff of "worst ever."

Pretty standard method of breaking things down for executive level reports. "Dashboards" "Stoplight Reports" and basically "idiot lights" for the status and nature of something. Corny, but how else do you roll up data, summarize it, and express it in simple terms.

poptart wrote:

BSmack wrote:4000+ dead in Iraq for no good reason
2008 Economic Meltdown
911
Katrina
Abu Graib/Gitmo torture
The "Patriot" Act
Color coded terror threat indicators
"Axis of Evil"
Record budget deficits
Lowest approval ratings ever
Politicizing the Justice Department

And this isn't the worst President ever?

If there is a list of Prez Bush failures, ... failure to secure United States borders ... belongs at the top of the list.

When it became blatantly obvious that the illegal flood had become a financial, social, and potential SECURITY, nightmare, he had an obligation to the American people to take action.

He failed MISERABLY, and imo, DELIBERATELY.

If there was a reason to impeach GW Bush, that's it.

Hang the fucker.

Sure, his imbecilic border policy belongs on the list as well. I hardly have the free time to remember EVERY last fuckup Bush has perpetrated or presided over.

BSmack wrote: Sure, his imbecilic border policy belongs on the list as well.

What policy ?

What's almost criminal is that under his administration it seems they go after U.S. Border Patrol officers more than .... illegal entrants.

Lock up the border. Swear the ones here already in and start collecting Fed, State and FICA on their earnings.

So when's the funny little beardie going to pop up to tell everyone to vote for his 'brother' Obama and scare loads of sheepy morons into voting McCain, then?