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Adelpiero wrote:i read a couple of articles that think Utah will get the Fiesta bid.

So Tejas vs Utah??
tOSU vs bama?? pending title games. personally, i see nothing wrong with those matchups

I would prefer the fiesta to be Missouri vs Utah but that's up to ya'll.

From what I've read the Fiesta picks before the Sugar and might choose tOSU because they do travel so well but you never know it is 50/50 at this point.

The only, and I do mean only good thing that comes out of playing Utah is that I get to rub it in a lot of peoples faces when Texas applies their foot to the throat of the Utes. This game will not be pretty, I'm talking 52 to 10 ish

Papa Willie wrote:I've heard Gill's name is in the Auburn pool.

Syracuse should be all over trying to hire Gill. RACK Buffalo!!

Felix wrote:too many problems (and Fr's and Soph's) on the offensive line....next year and the year after, it will be a different story

Isn't your QB a freshman?

If that's the case, you gotta be excited about getting good QB play as the season progressed from a Fr., behind a young line. Could be a very potent offense in 2 years.

Danimal wrote:Unwar Washington for not giving Gill a sniff.

If I recall, Gill was considered for the NU job when Callahan was hired. Serious question: If they had hired Gill instead of Callahan, how would NU be doing these days?

Ken wrote:

Danimal wrote:Unwar Washington for not giving Gill a sniff.

If I recall, Gill was considered for the NU job when Callahan was hired. Serious question: If they had hired Gill instead of Callahan, how would NU be doing these days?

Husker fans will tell you Pelini has them going in right direction(fiction), truth is, The Big12 North teams are lucky Gill wasn't hired. I could be wrong, but he was a major player in plucking the best talent in Missouri to Nebraska. He would have them playing a ton better and they would be better fundamentally.

Pelini will be no better than Callahan, his records might be(bad north helps), but his team is poor fundamentally, they take poor personal fouls and penalties, and their coach acts like a jerkoff on the sidelines after every marginal call that goes against him.

Gill needs to be hired to a BCS school immediately

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Dinsdale wrote:
Isn't your QB a freshman?

If that's the case, you gotta be excited about getting good QB play as the season progressed from a Fr., behind a young line. Could be a very potent offense in 2 years.

yep, but he sure didn't play like a freshman

like I said, over the next two or three years, Boise State is going to be a very, very scary team

should be fun when Oregon comes here next year!!!!!

remember, I'm buying the first dozen rounds or so :D

Dinsdale wrote:

Adelpiero wrote: tOsu/utah vs tejas

Which makes me wonder...

How long will this odd deal tOSU has with getting a free fucking pass to BCS games they don't deserve last?

Is America going to ever tire of this bullshit?

tOSU played two very good teams... and dropped both. Beat two good teams, a couple other halfway decent teams. But mostly feasted on cupcakes, and underachieved mightily.

They have no fucking business in a BCS bowl.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country. So tell me again why America should be tired of seeing the most winning team in BCS history? I'm not saying they deserve to be there this year although other than Boise State, I don't think any other team is more deserving for an at-large bid. Perhaps your attention should be focused on those teams that consistently lay eggs in BCS bowls.

Brutus Buckeye wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country. I'm not saying they deserve to be there this year although other than Boise State, I don't think any other team is more deserving for an at-large bid.

Make up your mind, "Ohio State TB1"....troll

Better yet, just post under your regular nic, you loser.


Oh yeah, you lost to $C 35-3.

You'd end up in around 5th place in the PAC 10.

Ken wrote:

Danimal wrote:Unwar Washington for not giving Gill a sniff.

If I recall, Gill was considered for the NU job when Callahan was hired. Serious question: If they had hired Gill instead of Callahan, how would NU be doing these days?

Steve (the devil) Pederson NEVER considered Gill.
He wanted to stamp the program with HIS own 21st century culture turning his back on NU tradition..he thought Callahan was the shit. He was right. SHIT! along with his so called defensive buddy.
Not to mention he was played like the cheap whore that he is with the likes of Houston Nutt.

MuchoBulls wrote:

Papa Willie wrote:I've heard Gill's name is in the Auburn pool.

Syracuse should be all over trying to hire Gill. RACK Buffalo!!

Syracuse going after Gill should be in the "no brainer" category, but something tells me they'll manage to screw it up. If Gill lands at Auburn (who has received permission to speak to him), Auburn is getting themselves one helluva coach.

Gill should be COY this year, even before the win over Ball State. Buffalo was basically a glorified 1-AA program when he took it over. Nobody saw this coming as quickly as it has.

Brutus Buckeye wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country.

USC has a 5-1 record in BCS Bowl games.

Vito Corleone wrote:

Adelpiero wrote:i read a couple of articles that think Utah will get the Fiesta bid.

So Tejas vs Utah??
tOSU vs bama?? pending title games. personally, i see nothing wrong with those matchups

I would prefer the fiesta to be Missouri vs Utah but that's up to ya'll.

From what I've read the Fiesta picks before the Sugar and might choose tOSU because they do travel so well but you never know it is 50/50 at this point.

The only, and I do mean only good thing that comes out of playing Utah is that I get to rub it in a lot of peoples faces when Texas applies their foot to the throat of the Utes. This game will not be pretty, I'm talking 52 to 10 ish

Before yesterday I've been hearing OSU v. Texas in the Fiesta and Utah v. Alabama/Florida loser in the Sugar.

Cornhusker wrote:

Ken wrote:

Danimal wrote:Unwar Washington for not giving Gill a sniff.

If I recall, Gill was considered for the NU job when Callahan was hired. Serious question: If they had hired Gill instead of Callahan, how would NU be doing these days?

Steve (the devil) Pederson NEVER considered Gill.
He wanted to stamp the program with HIS own 21st century culture turning his back on NU tradition..he thought Callahan was the shit. He was right. SHIT! along with his so called defensive buddy.
Not to mention he was played like the cheap whore that he is with the likes of Houston Nutt.

Ahhh, okay. I could have sworn Gill was considered at some point. Perhaps it was the fans calling for his consideration that I remember. Nonetheless, hiring Gill still would have been taking a big chance, not having been a head coach up to that point. Hindsight and all that stuff.

Say what you will about RRod, but I STILL believe NU effed up in not considering him more. Perfect fit, he would have been.

.m2 wrote:

Brutus Buckeye wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country. I'm not saying they deserve to be there this year although other than Boise State, I don't think any other team is more deserving for an at-large bid.

Make up your mind, "Ohio State TB1"....troll

Better yet, just post under your regular nic, you loser.


Oh yeah, you lost to $C 35-3.

You'd end up in around 5th place in the PAC 10.

Uhh, dipshit......how many BCS games has Cal played in? How many BCS games has your conference won besides USC? Dude, your conference has ONE team and guess what?.........it isn't Cal.

.m2 wrote:

Brutus Buckeye wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country. I'm not saying they deserve to be there this year although other than Boise State, I don't think any other team is more deserving for an at-large bid.

Make up your mind, "Ohio State TB1"....troll

Better yet, just post under your regular nic, you loser.


Oh yeah, you lost to $C 35-3.

You'd end up in around 5th place in the PAC 10.

i'm fairly certain most people not busy posting photos of the sky took that as "osu wasn't the greatest this year, but who out there is actually better?" a lot of if's in your post again.

^^^^^^ Exactly. In my opinion, two teams are more deserving: Boise State and Texas Tech. Tech is out due to Texas and OU being there but Boise State is the team getting screwed here. They went out and earned it. However, besides them, who deserved to go over Ohio State. The answer is nobody.

Brutus Buckeye wrote:but Boise State is the team getting screwed here. They went out and earned it.

as I said, Boise's SOS (or lack thereof) will always work against them....of course they're forced to play in one of the weaker conferences, but they absolutely have to start scheduling tougher out of conference games or move to a stronger conference (Mountain West would definitely be an upgrade from the WAC)

Felix wrote:

Brutus Buckeye wrote:but Boise State is the team getting screwed here. They went out and earned it.

as I said, Boise's SOS (or lack thereof) will always work against them....of course they're forced to play in one of the weaker conferences, but they absolutely have to start scheduling tougher out of conference games or move to a stronger conference (Mountain West would definitely be an upgrade from the WAC)

To be honest, I'm not sure why this hasn't happened yet. It would be win-win for both sides.

Boise State gets a tougher schedule. MWC gets a real good argument for an automatic BCS bid, between Utah, TCU, BYU, Boise State, etc. Plus, they get some additional insurance in the event the Pac-10 decides it wants a CCG and raids the MWC. Right now, this is the most obvious conference realignment move that hasn't occurred yet.

GreginPG wrote:

Brutus Buckeye wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Ohio State have a 4-2 record in BCS bowls?? And I believe their 4 BCS bowl wins are the most of any program in the country.

USC has a 5-1 record in BCS Bowl games.

Yes, you are correct. USC is 5-1, LSU is 4-0, and Ohio State is 4-2....those are the three best records. USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, and Florida State are tied for most appearances with six but OU and FSU have poor records in BCS games with OU coming in at 2-4 and FSU at 1-5.

I stand corrected. OSU doesn't have the best BCS record, they have the third best record behind USC and LSU....pretty good company.

Terry in Crapchester wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure why this hasn't happened yet. It would be win-win for both sides.

Boise State gets a tougher schedule. MWC gets a real good argument for an automatic BCS bid, between Utah, TCU, BYU, Boise State, etc. Plus, they get some additional insurance in the event the Pac-10 decides it wants a CCG and raids the MWC. Right now, this is the most obvious conference realignment move that hasn't occurred yet.

Allegedly, there is a letter sitting on the desk of Bob Kustra (Boise State's President) from the Mountain West extending an invitation to Boise State to join the MWC in 2010. Like you said, it's an absolute win/win for both sides and I really hope it comes to fruition. We shall see.

Meanwhile, I'm of the opinion that the Poinsettia Bowl (BSU vs. TCU) will prove to be one of the better non-BCS games on the bowl schedule this year.

Ken wrote:Ahhh, okay. I could have sworn Gill was considered at some point. Perhaps it was the fans calling for his consideration that I remember. Nonetheless, hiring Gill still would have been taking a big chance, not having been a head coach up to that point. Hindsight and all that stuff.

Yes, there was a pretty large outcry for Gill from some fans, however like you said, he really would have been in a tough spot with no experience.

Say what you will about RRod, but I STILL believe NU effed up in not considering him more. Perfect fit, he would have been.

I don't think he was interested in NU, why he'd leave WV his alma mater for NU made no sense; Michigan, different story.

Osborne wasn't much interested in him either if your timeline was NU's last hire. I don't remember his name ever coming up.
It was Pelini or Gill for Osborne and from what I'm lead to believe, the boosters said they wanted Pelini while Osborne leaned toward Gill. Money won out.

If you mean Pederson's search...that clown was all over the map thinking coaches would bust the doors down to come to NU.
He found out differently.

Cornhusker wrote:

Ken wrote:Ahhh, okay. I could have sworn Gill was considered at some point. Perhaps it was the fans calling for his consideration that I remember. Nonetheless, hiring Gill still would have been taking a big chance, not having been a head coach up to that point. Hindsight and all that stuff.

Yes, there was a pretty large outcry for Gill from some fans, however like you said, he really would have been in a tough spot with no experience.

Say what you will about RRod, but I STILL believe NU effed up in not considering him more. Perfect fit, he would have been.

I don't think he was interested in NU, why he'd leave WV his alma mater for NU made no sense; Michigan, different story.

Osborne wasn't much interested in him either if your timeline was NU's last hire. I don't remember his name ever coming up.
It was Pelini or Gill for Osborne and from what I'm lead to believe, the boosters said they wanted Pelini while Osborne leaned toward Gill. Money won out.

If you mean Pederson's search...that clown was all over the map thinking coaches would bust the doors down to come to NU.
He found out differently.

Ya, Bo was the booster-fave, and with the big buy-outs for Pedey and BC the boosters had some juice on the selection. If the hire was made this year I think we know who'd get the gig. But that is water under the bridge and after a rough patch the coaches and players seem to be making progress. Hopefully we don't end-up wondering what could've been with Gill.

Brutus Buckeye wrote: Uhh, dipshit......how many BCS games has Cal played in? How many BCS games has your conference won besides USC? Dude, your conference has ONE team and guess what?.........it isn't Cal.

Pac 10 has won as many BCS Bowls as the Big 11..... 8.
The Pac 10 is 8-4 in BCS Bowls, Oregon, Oregon State and Washington have all won BCS Bowls. USC, UCLA, Stanford and Washington State have each lost 1 BCS Bowl.
The Big 11 is 8-9 in BCS Bowls, aside from Ohio States 4-2 record, Wisconsin has won 2 while Michigan and Penn State have each won one BCS Bowl. Michigan has lost 3, Ohio State and Illinois have each lost 2 and iowa and Purdue both lost 1.
The difference is just in the perception of the conferences, the Big 11 being closer to the mass media and the bulk of the pollsters has given that conference more oppurtunities than the Pac 10 to play in BCS Bowls even though, as a conference, they have performed worse.

Danimal wrote: Ya, Bo was the booster-fave, and with the big buy-outs for Pedey and BC the boosters had some juice on the selection. If the hire was made this year I think we know who'd get the gig. But that is water under the bridge and after a rough patch the coaches and players seem to be making progress. Hopefully we don't end-up wondering what could've been with Gill.

honest question for NU guys: i realize Pelini is coming off a NC at LSU and Husker fans were warmed to Bo as someone who energized the Blackshirts for Frank and "got NU football"....and Gill was unproven (compared to now)....but my question is this:

how much if anything do you think Gill having played in the early 80's/pre Dr. Tom's MNC's had any effect on his public popularity as a possible candidate? It's my experience (and certainly age is part of it, but not all of it) that living in Colorado and having some experience with NU fans that there are definitely "post '95" type fans and those from the old days. the OU fan base has this with post '00 fans. not that they are bad fans, but their frame of reference is Bob Stoops at OU. Gill would have been outside the frame of reference for post '95 fan and before Osborne had any MNC's...just some guy from a long time ago instead of one of the great option QB's at NU or anywhere. Certainly, among the first of the "duel-threat" option QB's along with JC Watts.

King Crimson wrote:Gill would have been outside the frame of reference for post '95 fan and before Osborne had any MNC's...just some guy from a long time ago instead of one of the great option QB's at NU or anywhere. Certainly, among the first of the "duel-threat" option QB's along with JC Watts.

Don’t forget me.

Sincerely,

To further hijack this thread from a discussion of Nebraska coaching hires, here’s arguably the best backfield ever at tOSU. I could immediately name all 4. Anybody else can do that without googling?

King Crimson wrote:

Danimal wrote: Ya, Bo was the booster-fave, and with the big buy-outs for Pedey and BC the boosters had some juice on the selection. If the hire was made this year I think we know who'd get the gig. But that is water under the bridge and after a rough patch the coaches and players seem to be making progress. Hopefully we don't end-up wondering what could've been with Gill.

honest question for NU guys: i realize Pelini is coming off a NC at LSU and Husker fans were warmed to Bo as someone who energized the Blackshirts for Frank and "got NU football"....and Gill was unproven (compared to now)....but my question is this:

how much if anything do you think Gill having played in the early 80's/pre Dr. Tom's MNC's had any effect on his public popularity as a possible candidate? It's my experience (and certainly age is part of it, but not all of it) that living in Colorado and having some experience with NU fans that there are definitely "post '95" type fans and those from the old days. the OU fan base has this with post '00 fans. not that they are bad fans, but their frame of reference is Bob Stoops at OU. Gill would have been outside the frame of reference for post '95 fan and before Osborne had any MNC's...just some guy from a long time ago instead of one of the great option QB's at NU or anywhere. Certainly, among the first of the "duel-threat" option QB's along with JC Watts.

Hard to say really. I think he gets a pretty good amount of love. Maybe he'd get more if he'd gotten the the ring he should've. I'd imagine being a more recent player might have helped him a little. But I think Buffalo being only mid-turnaround at the time just made him a tough-sell for TO.

King Crimson wrote:how much if anything do you think Gill having played in the early 80's/pre Dr. Tom's MNC's had any effect on his public popularity as a possible candidate?

I really don't think his playing days timetable plays a part in his cred. due to the fact most of the "younger" fans have known him as a loyal lieutenant; with coaching here 12 years after his playing days, and turning down numerous offers to assistant coaching at other places. He didn't leave till Pederson & Callahan left him no choice. He was VERY emotional when he left. That is what the younger /older fans know him as, a man of faith and true loyality. He was here as recent as 2004.
He's been out front long after his playing days in this state so the general pop.;I believe for the most part, wanted to see him lead his our program.
Now that he's been successful in a smaller enviorment, he needs to take it to the next level.
I really want him to get the Syracuse job if he wants to leave Buffalo. I believe he'd excel there and winning 7-8 games he'd be loved and have the time to build toward a Big East Championship.
The SEC is murder! No patience at Auburn and Miss. St. has no chance with left over recruits year in and year out..dead end job.