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Felix wrote:

BSmack wrote:
Can you imagine Cowher telling Cutler and Marshall that he plans on running the ball 35-40 times a game?

it would never happen...at least not til they got a FEATURE RUNNING BACK that wasn't splitting time with four other guys

Elway had Terrell Davis and that seemed to work out okay

Cowher has been known to run an RBBC. And Payton Hillis (assuming he rehabs OK) is just the kind of back Cowher loves anyway.

Shoalzie wrote:

BSmack wrote:

RJ wrote:For the record, it has just been reported that Mike fucking Martz is now openly campaigning for the Raider gig.

Please, if there is a God, let Mike Martz be named Raiders HC. That would be hilarious.

Martz and Al wouldn't co-exist. Martz isn't puppet material.

Exactly. It'll be Jim Harbaugh.

Martz will wind up as the offensive coordinator somewhere. I just don't envision dude ever getting a crack at being a head coach again unless it's some bullshit like Seattle. But it looks like Jim Mora Jr. will be the head man there next year. Same goes for Herman Edwards- he'll never be a head coach in the NFL again. Also on that list- Jim Haslett.

Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote:Same goes for Herman Edwards- he'll never be a head coach in the NFL again.

He's still the head coach, as of now, and you've got me rooting for him to remain.

I don't expect Rat to KC, Wagon.
NO stellar QB and too much rebuilding right now.
That ain't Shanahan's thang.

Rat to Indy seems right to me ... when Dungy retires after this season.


Gravy train.

poptart wrote:I don't expect Rat to KC, Wagon.
NO stellar QB and too much rebuilding right now.
That ain't Shanahan's thang.

Rat to Indy seems right to me ... when Dungy retires after this season.

Good call on Indy but I don't see it that way.

Let me tell you where dude winds up, and it could break this week:

Big D.

Jerry is going to sit down with Wade and ask him to take a step back, handle the Dallas D as he brings in Shanahan to be head coach and run the explosive O. Garrett probably hauls ass to Detroit. History repeats itself- Ratahan replacing Phillips. Wade will either say ok and be the D-coordinator, or he will walk. Either way, Dallas will be sitting pretty and poised to go all the way in '09 with Shanahan in charge.

Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff wrote: Jerry is going to sit down with Wade and ask him to take a step back, handle the Dallas D as he brings in Shanahan to be head coach and run the explosive O. Garrett probably hauls ass to Detroit. History repeats itself- Ratahan replacing Phillips. Wade will either say ok and be the D-coordinator, or he will walk. Either way, Dallas will be sitting pretty and poised to go all the way in '09 with Shanahan in charge.

Shannahan hates Jerrah's fucking guts, so you should put that thought right out of your head

mvscal wrote: KC really isn't all that far off. True, their QB situation is a joke, but they have some decent talent and you know Ratahan would love to stay in the division to stab another AFC West owner in the ass twice a year.

Bowlen and Shannahan are the best of friends....Shanny to KC just ain't in the cards....sorry Chef fan

Shanny also has 3 more years on his contract @ some $7 million per year, which means he doesn't have to take any coaching job unless he wants to, so Detroit, Cleveland & the Jets can just forget about those fantasies before they even start. No way Shanny would work for Alcula again, so the only places he might even consider don't have open jobs just now- that'd be Dallas or San Diego. KC doesn't have an open job either, but there's also nothing there that would lure him.

mvscal wrote:

Felix wrote:Bowlen and Shannahan are the best of friends....

Were the best of friends. The Rat carries a grudge like nobody else in the game.

you don't typically see a departing coach giving a press conference from the confines of his former team's facilities....speaks volumes

trust me, shannahan will never end up coaching for an AFC West team as long as bowlen owns the broncos

Felix wrote: you don't typically see a departing coach giving a press conference from the confines of his former team's facilities....speaks volumes

He's earned that much, at least.

trust me, shannahan will never end up coaching for an AFC West team as long as bowlen owns the broncos

You hope.

Looks like Stoops to the Broncos, holy shit.

Why the fukk would Stoops want to leave One Of The Best Jobs In The World (a perennial top-rated college program) for the N-fucking-FL?

The answer is, he wouldn't- and won't

Cuda wrote:Why the fukk would Stoops want to leave One Of The Best Jobs In The World (a perennial top-rated college program) for the N-fucking-FL?

The answer is, he wouldn't- and won't

right you are

MIAMI SHORES, Fla. -- Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said Saturday he has not been contacted by the Denver Broncos about their head coaching position and he has no interest in the job.

given the recent history of head coaches of winning college programs jumping to head coaching positions in the NFL, all I can say is

thanks Bob

Bowlen and chief operating officer Joe Ellis will meet in New York with Steve Spagnuolo, who has been the Giants' defensive coordinator the past two seasons. Then it's on to Boston, where the Broncos' brass will interview Patriots assistant Josh McDaniels, a 32-year-old rising star who worked his way up from graduate assistant to offensive coordinator under Bill Belichick. Tampa Bay assistant coach Raheem Morris, also 32, is the first candidate who will travel to Denver for his shot at the job. Another intriguing possibility is Dallas offensive coordinator Jason Garrett, who turned down offers last winter from Baltimore and Atlanta after the Cowboys made him the highest-paid coordinator at $3 million with the promise he'd be Wade Phillips's successor as coach.

McDaniels is the guy I'd really like to see get it....although his age may work against him they'll never get Garrett, because the thought of landing the head coaching gig at Dallas will be too tempting for him to pass up

Morris is probably an NFL affirmative action interview

BSmack wrote:

RJ wrote:For the record, it has just been reported that Mike fucking Martz is now openly campaigning for the Raider gig.

Please, if there is a God, let Mike Martz be named Raiders HC. That would be hilarious.

Yes, having a guy who was 53-32 with a NFC Championship, Superbowl Appearance as a Head Coach would really suck. His only two losing seasons were 7-9 and 8-8.

There isnt a better guy out there suited for pulling the last drop of talent out of our offensive personell. He'd sure as hell make McFadden one of the most feared weapons in the game. If The Count was smart, he'd already have that fucking nutcase hired.

If Al were to think about hiring Martz ... and Martz wanted to coach in Oakland, Al had better have that capable "buffer" in place between he and the coach.

I don't think there is much doubt that Martz would get the Raider offense geared up, unless Al cut the legs out from under it all with his fuggen around behind the scenes.

I don't know if it would be a WINNER of a hire, but solid entertainment for sure ... both on and off the field.

poptart wrote: I don't know if it would be a WINNER of a hire

Of course it would be, as long the jumpsuit stays the fuck outta Martz's way offensively. We have the talent, save for a few O-line and WR pieces.

And Martz has publicly come out and said he wants to be the coach of the Raiders already, pop.

RJ wrote: We have the talent, save for a few O-line and WR pieces.

As far as offense goes, those are pretty important pieces.

Jus Sayin'

As I see it right now, Oakland needs a true "#1" receiver and two upgrades on the O-Line.

If they pieced that together they could have a unit that could begin to get things done.

Then they need to add depth.

Oakland had the worst 3rd down conversion rate in the league this year -- 28%.

AMAZINGLY bad.

Mangenious to the Clowns.

RJ wrote:

BSmack wrote: I hear the leading contender for the Raiders gig is Kevin Gilbride. I wonder how freakin cool having one of Buddy's kids on his staff would be for him.

Leading contender? Shut your pock marked, 5 foot nothing 250 pound smurfette ass up, you pathetic fucking whiney twat. You know dick, just like the rest of us not named Alcula. Rob Ryan is also free to go, as his contract is now done and he will not be retained, dumbfuck.

Yep, Son of Buddy to the Brownstains.

Good luck with that, Q.

Josh McDaniels - IN

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/11/mcdanie ... oncos-man/


Mule fan?

poptart wrote: Mule fan?

from an offensive perspective a great hire and one I was hoping for, but the first thing that needs to be addressed is the Denver defense and I hope this will be a high priority on McDaniels "to do" list

McDaniels is an offensive guy.
They've also brought in M. Nolan to run the defense, though.

As a Raider fan, I'm good with this.

Let's face it, Rat pwned us BIG TIME.

I'll take my chances with a 32 yr old newbie head coach who is coming off the Belichick tree.
That tree, imo, has somewhat underwhelmed.

poptart wrote:I'll take my chances with a 32 yr old newbie head coach who is coming off the Belichick tree.

That tree, imo, has somewhat underwhelmed.

You mean the Tuna Tree, right 'tard?

Weiss -- Parcells disciple
Crennel -- Parcells disciple
Mangini -- began his career working for Parcells (Jets)

Belichick let all 3 of these losers walk and didn't really give two shits. They were just followers-on. Not really "his" guys.

Let's see how these 3 members of the real Belichick tree fare, mmmkay?

Josh McDaniels -- the first true Belichick man to be a head coach. Let's see how that works out.
Thomas Dimitroff -- Atlanta GM. Belichick disciple, turned the Falcons around in one year.
Scott Pioli -- GM Kansas City (?) Belichick disciple. Began his NFL career with the Browns in 1992. Will turn the Chefs around by 2011.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote: Mangini -- began his career working for Parcells (Jets)

Wrong on this one..

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm? ... io&bio=523

Mangini's first coaching opportunity came in 1995 as an assistant on Belichick's staff in Cleveland. Ted Marchibroda retained him when the franchise moved to Baltimore in 1996, working as a quality control/offensive assistant. The Ravens averaged 357.7 yards per game during the 1996 season – third in the NFL.

Mangini got his break under Belicheat, not Tuna.

"He began his career as a ball boy with Cleveland at the age of 23, and later became an intern in the public relations. While working as a ball boy, he was often quoted as saying "no job is too small in the NFL."[citation needed] He worked 18 hours a day in the PR department, and at night he took copies of stats in the copy room. Bill Belichick, at the time the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, found him there, and liked him so much that he asked the general manager if they had another job for him. Mangini was given the job of fetching coffee for the Browns coordinators."


I guess I should have been more specific, asshat. His coaching career did NOT begin under Belichick.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:"He began his career as a ball boy with Cleveland at the age of 23, and later became an intern in the public relations. While working as a ball boy, he was often quoted as saying "no job is too small in the NFL."[citation needed] He worked 18 hours a day in the PR department, and at night he took copies of stats in the copy room. Bill Belichick, at the time the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, found him there, and liked him so much that he asked the general manager if they had another job for him. Mangini was given the job of fetching coffee for the Browns coordinators."


I guess I should have been more specific, asshat. His coaching career did NOT begin under Belichick.

I got my info from the Patriots website, you got yours from Wikipedia (I read the same thing but seeing how there was nothing to reference I went with a more reliable source). However if Mangini was nothing more than a coffee fetcher as your "source" indicates than how does he suddenly become an offensive assistant with the Ravens when they moved from Cleveland?

Also, it stands to reason that if Mangini was some sort of closet stat geek who showed enough promise to be promoted to offensive assistant a year later, he most likely gained this knownledge and experience (like most assistansts) under the direction of the head coach of the team who happened to be Bill Belichick. However if that's too vague for you then explain why after a year with the Ravens he suddenly finds himself working as an assistant under Belichick for the Jets a year later... and rest is quite easily to follow... unles you're Ucant.

I don't know the real truth, but I just know that I laffed reading about a 23 yr old ... ball boy.


bwaaa ...

Lots of recent rumors and media speculation that Mike Shanahan is the next head coach of the Cheifs. :o

Nixhex wrote:Lots of recent rumors and media speculation that Mike Shanahan is the next head coach of the Cheifs. :o

Then he’d just need some time with the Chargers to complete the circuit.

Nixhex wrote:Lots of recent rumors and media speculation that Mike Shanahan is the next head coach of the Cheifs. :o

I think they're going after Todd Haley, Arizona's o-coordinator, but can't make any official contact until after the SB. I think that would be a great hire. Did you see him and bitch Boldin jawing at each other during the game winning drive? Nice multi-tasking.

Meanwhile, Herm and what's left of his staff are left twisting in the wind.

I wouldn't mind Haley. Just about anyone is an improvement over the current coach. I like that Haley doesn't put up with bullshit from his players. You can't let the inmates run the place. As much as I've despised Shanahan over the years I wouldn't be opposed to him being the coach either. I think a lot of his problems in Denver have to do with him trying to be the coach and GM. Too much was on his plate. Pioli obviously isn't going to give complete control of personnel decisions to a coach. So in order for Shanahan to be the Chiefs coach he'd have to comprimise with Pioli on the personnel decisions. The question is Shanahan willing to work with a GM? Or does he still want complete control?

War Wagon wrote:I think they're going after Todd Haley, Arizona's o-coordinator

That's the skinny coming out of every local media source here in Phx.

mvscal wrote:

RJ wrote:His only two losing seasons were 7-9 and 8-8.

I would agree with this.

Of course you would.

Actually... I would have thought that fans of such shit franchises would have equated a .500 record with a winning season, as opposed to the opposite.

Fucking tards.

RJ wrote:

BSmack wrote:Please, if there is a God, let Mike Martz be named Raiders HC. That would be hilarious.

Yes, having a guy who was 53-32 with a NFC Championship, Superbowl Appearance as a Head Coach would really suck. His only two losing seasons were 7-9 and 8-8.

There isnt a better guy out there suited for pulling the last drop of talent out of our offensive personell. He'd sure as hell make McFadden one of the most feared weapons in the game. If The Count was smart, he'd already have that fucking nutcase hired.

Oh by all means go ahead. I'm sure JaMarcus being a rocket scientist and all will take to Martz's playbook like a paraplegic to water. And all those good RBs on the Raiders roster I'm sure will fit in perfectly with Martz's strategy to run the ball 7 times a game for no good reason. Sure, Martz as coach will give me a reason to draft a few Raiders to my FFL teams. But that's about it. Add to that Martz's reputation for front office backstabbing that makes Lane Kiffen look like a paragon of honesty by comparison and you have all the ingredients for a first class cluster fuck even by Raiders standards.